[Q] What is the purpose of CM7 "Allow application moving" setting? - Nook Color General

Using Titanium Backup (with CM7.0.2), I moved many apps from internal storage to SD card and it seemed to work just fine. However I noticed that I had not selected "Allow application moving" from the "Application" menu under CyanogenMod settings before I moved the apps with Titanium. What is the purpose of this CM7 setting when it is disabled (which is the default) if apps can be moved anyway? Many thanks in advance!

residentorca said:
Using Titanium Backup (with CM7.0.2), I moved many apps from internal storage to SD card and it seemed to work just fine. However I noticed that I had not selected "Allow application moving" from the "Application" menu under CyanogenMod settings before I moved the apps with Titanium.
What is the purpose of this CM7 setting when it is disabled (which is the default) if apps can be moved anyway? Many thanks in advance!
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You're moving apps using Titanium and given it su permissions that's why. It's like what's the purpose of locking your door when this guy Titanium has been given a master key.

robot8 said:
You're moving apps using Titanium and given it su permissions that's why. It's like what's the purpose of locking your door when this guy Titanium has been given a master key.
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Thanks, robot8. That's what I thought the CM7 setting was for but even though it was set to not allow moving apps, I will still able to move the apps with Titanium.

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MyBackup

Hey i don't know how popular it is but i love this app! It backs up bookmarks, system setting, sms and more and puts the backup on your sd card. For those flashing phone alot saves alot of headache if you need to wipe. I know there are other ways to backup but hey i like it.
Yea i actually found it as soon as i flashed to jf 1.3, saved me from a whole lot of trouble during my first wipe flashing a theme.
I think its a perfect app. Helps so much after a wipe. If you back up your apps with Astro all your data is saved too .
MyBackup is a must have...
This app is great. Its fast and reliable... Everyone needs a backup of their phone and this app does it best...
now we need to add the app backup capability found in astro into mybackup and it would be the ultimate end user backup utility.
korndub said:
now we need to add the app backup capability found in astro into mybackup and it would be the ultimate end user backup utility.
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Yeah that would be sweet!!!
App backup now available
The new version of the application backs up apps now... and has capability to schedule a daily or weekly backup... Complete backup utility now
It would be so perfect if it could install all of the backd up apps without you having to click install and done for every single one.
That would be noicee.
topdnbass said:
It would be so perfect if it could install all of the backd up apps without you having to click install and done for every single one.
That would be noicee.
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I agree with that. Astro is the same way isn't it?
if you rooted you g1, and put your apps on you sdcard, you never need backup you apps, even if you flash/factory reset/wipe/anything else that erases your phone you apps will still be on the ext2 partition on your sdcard i think you can even copy them to your computer if you have a linux machine
Astro is even slower when it comes to reinstalling apps.
As for putting apps on the sd, im gonna wait til google does something about that because i have enough memory left for now. Especially cuz i moved the caches.
Problems with MyBackup
ok, so i did the whole multitouch thing, and now im trying to restore my phone with MyBackup, i backed up all my apps, and all my data to an SD card. Now, i have RC33 with the multitouch add in, and i downloaded MyBackup but when i try to restore the data from the SD card, it gives mr this message: "I/O error: unable to write to SD card. Make sure the SD card is mounted properly and is not connected to your PC."
has anyone else had this problem? The apps restore fine, its only my data (sms,contacts,settings) that gives me that message. Thanks for the help
A reboot fixed that problem for me, though I'm not on RC33.
Yeah it was giving me problems, what it was doing to me is when i restored my system settings the topbar was freaking out and it played ringtones like someone was calling me but no one was, like it is getting the system sounds mixed up. No error messages but still i got rid of it.
Feel lucky. Do *not* restore your contacts using MyBackup. Just re-sync with the google server... I restored using MyBackup and I got duplicates of everyhting and it broke the syncing of my contacts.. For everything else, it worked flawlessly (fantastic for SMS!) but gmail has a backup of your contacts, so there's no use.
Yea, the application says in the opening notes to use either the gmail contact backups or the app, not to use both. There are known issues for sync messing up, but I don't think it is because of the app. Because even without this app people are having a lot of problems with their sync...
I dont know if its just me but when ever I restore my home screen shortcuts all of the shortcuts inside my folders are all messed up or even missing.
For example my games will be in my media folder and my browser short cuts will be in my shopping folder. And some folders will be empty for example my apps folder will be empty and it wont be in anyother folder.
Anyone else have this same problem?
MyBackup Pro
Check it out. This new version solves almost every problem. Restoring all the apps at once does not have any problems at all.. And its just a buck, can not go wrong... Love it!
anybody know where to download this app ? thank you
u tried the market?

[Q] My Internal Memory Is Disappearing And I Don't Know Why?

First about my phone, It's a Sprint CDMA Hero rooted and running Damages 2.09.1 rom. I have a 16gig card in it and the phone really works well.
Now my problem..........
My internal memory has a parasite that is slowly eating it away. I have figured out that when internal memory gets below 16MB it turns on the little warning in the status bar. So this is how I'm checking my internal memory so everyone that takes their time to respond to me is using the same method. I go to Settings> SD&Phone Storage, at the bottom of the screen that comes up is the "Internal Phone Storage" Available space and mine says 15.84MB. Today I installed a highly rated memory manager from the Market and it didn't help at all. So my first question is How much "internal Phone Storage" do you have left?
Now my second question is when you go to Settings> Applications> Manage Applications> and scroll way down to "Mail - HTC Corporation" and click on that. Now look at the storage. Mine says 15.64 MB Total. Which breaks down there to Application 2.59MB and Data at 13.05MB. Clearly my Mail program is holding the biggest chunk of memory. But I want to know how this compares to everyone else's. If this is true then it would account for the parasitic growth or loss of my memory.
So if I'm way different then this will start a good discussion on what to do about this problem. Just let me say at this point that I delete all email once I have read it. I delete the sent, draft and Trash folders too. I also go into the SD Card and delete everything that is in the .Mail folder. So if my phone is storing old email now I have to fine out where and delete it.........
Also I constantly clear out the various cache's that the phone has too. But this memory is slowly going away. Any help would be appreciated very much.
I also appreciate everyone weighing in on this perplexing problem.
Thanks for your help and comments.........
Lisa
You can try clearing data for mail. If you don't want to reset up your accounts, back up mail account settings with titanium backup and restore afterwards. Also, consider using apps2sd, and storage is a non issue.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
How do I clear out the "mail data"? I have looked for that data and can't find it. If you could tell me where that data us located I would clear it NOW!
Also I will look into that apps2sd now also.
Thanks for your help......
Lisa
Double post, sorry, mods please delete
"Internal Phone Storage" Available space and mine says 15.84MB. Today I installed a highly rated memory manager from the Market and it didn't help at all.
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you are confusing storage (like a Hard Drive) and RAM (memory)... the memory manager only helps keep unneeded programs from running in the background it will not free up space on the internal 'hard drive'
you could also 'upgrade' to CyanogenMod 6 as Android 2.2 natively supports putting apps on the SD card.
mslisaj said:
...when you go to Settings> Applications> Manage Applications> and scroll way down to "Mail - HTC Corporation" and click on that...
...Also I constantly clear out the various cache's that the phone has too...
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mslisaj said:
How do I clear out the "mail data"? I have looked for that data and can't find it. If you could tell me where that data us located I would clear it NOW!
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You 'clear data' in the same place you 'clear cache', which you said you know how to do above. Its in the manage apps menu.
Well how do I clear space on my internal "hard drive"? How do I clear mail data which seems to be hogging my memory?
Houston we have a problem and don't know how to fix it....
Yyou go to the same place we told you before. Settings, applications, manage, then view all and sort by size. Then you will see what's taking up space. You can go into it there and clear data. If you are rooted, download cachecleaner and run it. If none of that helps then you either have to start uninstalling apps you don't use or you've done something that is affecting your storage space and you need to probably do a wipe/reflash.
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Well my Mail App or rather the stock HTC Mail app is the growing hog. When I go in to "Manage Applications" all I can clear is the Cache and NOT the data that is so big. I just don't get this. My memory, as I said has a parasite that is growing and eating memory. I'm right on the ragged edge of the flagged warning coming up about "low memory".
Here is a radical idea. Can I go in to the system> app folder and copy and save the HTC Mail apk and then delete the file and hopefully the entire Mail program from my phone. Reboot and then reinstall the HTC Mail apk and run it to reinstall it and then reset up my email? It's definitely the Mail application that is growing and I don't know why. It's saving mail somewhere...........
Also I downloaded and installed the Cacheclean program and ran it. It said all my cache was already clean so it proves I have been diligent about keeping what I can clean................
All help and idea's are appreciated.
mslisaj said:
Also I downloaded and installed the Cacheclean program and ran it. It said all my cache was already clean so it proves I have been diligent about keeping what I can clean
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that's not what that means. that means either superuser permissions is not working properly, or you've lost root on your phone, or something related to busybox, per the app developer. believe me, i've ran into that application telling me the same thing multiple times. you could never keep cache that clean on your phone unless you never used it.
Well the cache cleaner isn't working. I checked the SU program and the cache cleaner is not listed there so I guess its not working. Busybox and SU are working for titanium so the cache cleaner is a dive.
Oh well I get A for effort. I'll just use this lousy hero till it runs put of memory and I guess get a better phone like a LG or Droid.......
Or when it's no longer functional you can run the ruu and see if that fixes anything
The htc mail app has a bug where the mail doesnt get deleted even when you empty the trash. Its stored somewhere hidden on the internal memory. Also if you sync mail for more than 3 days it seems to cause memory issues as well.
Best bet is to use the K9 mail app. It will allow you to keep things clean.
Now 13+ megs should not be causing an issue so obviously you have a decent amount of apps installed as well. Id recommend running the a2sd to keep your internal clean.
I am following through as I alway do to thank you all for your help and tell you how I resolved the problem. I received some great advice from everyone and the last tip, which is usually my luck was the best.
The bottom line someone questioned why I thought I lost root. I explained what was going on and the best and final suggestion was to down load the latest Superuser.apk and flash through "recovery". Yes I had to ask exactly what that meant but I followed the directions and did it. Problem solved. I had SU working on my phone for Root Explorer and Titanium Backup. Then I downloaded Cachecleaner and it worked this time perfectly and it found 25MB of junk on my phone and cleared it out. So now I'm running 40MB of internal memory with all my programs working rather snappy now. In my estimation I screwed up the SU with the memory manager that was recommended somewhere along the line. When it didn't do anything for me I uninstalled it and I think my SU went with it. But the phone is fixed and I want to thank you all for your time in responding to my problem and requests. Sometimes multiple............
Thanks again.....
Lisa

[Q] Titanium Backup has lines through apps

Was running Phoenix Ultimate rom. Switched to Mosaic III Diet. Restored my apps using Titanium Backup Pro; however, some of the apps did not get installed. When I look at them in TiBu, those apps have a line drawn through them. The legend states this means the app was not installed. Were they not installed because they will not run in GingerBread?
retnuh said:
Was running Phoenix Ultimate rom. Switched to Mosaic III Diet. Restored my apps using Titanium Backup Pro; however, some of the apps did not get installed. When I look at them in TiBu, those apps have a line drawn through them. The legend states this means the app was not installed. Were they not installed because they will not run in GingerBread?
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more than likely they are apps that were once in /system/app/ in your old rom or specific for that rom/build
name an example of some of the apps.
Pirateghost said:
more than likely they are apps that were once in /system/app/ in your old rom or specific for that rom/build
name an example of some of the apps.
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Sound Player 1.0
TeleNav GPS Navigator 6.2.6201038
ThinkFree Office 2.0.1011,01
Speed Test 2.0.3
Thanks
Sound Player is a system app, cant reinstall that with TiBu
TeleNav is part of the ATT BLOAT
ThinkFree Office is system app
dont know about speed test
Pirateghost said:
Sound Player is a system app, cant reinstall that with TiBu
TeleNav is part of the ATT BLOAT
ThinkFree Office is system app
dont know about speed test
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Actually, TeleNav was a separate app that I had downloaded from the market. Liked it a lot more that the Google navigation. I have read other posts where other people are also trying to re-install the app and can no longer find it. One post stated that AT&T had it removed from the market. Since I had the app in my TiBu backup folder, I was in hopes of being able to re-install it.
I'm having much the same problem with Titanium Backup only I flashed Dlev 4.1 ROM from Cognition 4.1.1.
I have lines through many of my apps that I didn't think were system apps. To name just a few:
Angry Birds
Astrid Tasks
Amazon MP3
Barcode Scanner
Evernote
Facebook
Firefox
It says I have a backup of them dated today right before messing with all this ROM flashing. Most of this I don't really care about except for my 3 Angry Birds apps. I can download the others again and hopefully just sign in and all should work okay but I really want my Angry Birds progress back. To be honest a vast majority of my apps have the line through them (all but a handful) and most of those were installed with the Dlev ROM.
Any help someone could give me would be much appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance.
tuckerjdaniel said:
I'm having much the same problem with Titanium Backup only I flashed Dlev 4.1 ROM from Cognition 4.1.1.
I have lines through many of my apps that I didn't think were system apps. To name just a few:
Angry Birds
Astrid Tasks
Amazon MP3
Barcode Scanner
Evernote
Facebook
Firefox
It says I have a backup of them dated today right before messing with all this ROM flashing. Most of this I don't really care about except for my 3 Angry Birds apps. I can download the others again and hopefully just sign in and all should work okay but I really want my Angry Birds progress back. To be honest a vast majority of my apps have the line through them (all but a handful) and most of those were installed with the Dlev ROM.
Any help someone could give me would be much appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance.
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have you tried restoring them? what error message do you get?
I have not encountered any sort of error messages. The steps I'm following to restore my apps is:
1. Start TiBackup and click the Backup/Restore tab
2. Scroll down to the app I want to restore (in this case one with a line through it)
3. Click on the particular app. When I click on an app with a line through it the following options are given: Backup, Freeze, Uninstall. The backup and freeze buttons are grayed out and thus not selectable. The uninstall button is red but it is also not selectable (because that app is not currently installed on my phone). I also have an option to delete next to the backup.
TiBackup sees the backup and recognizes it as an app I just have no way to restore it or the data. However, if I go into the Market place and download the app and then go back to TiBackup I can see the app without any sort of line drawn through it and I can from there restore the app data. Once I do that all is good and everything is as it should be.
However, I really don't want to spend the time to download all my apps again as that's why I backed them up in the first place. Also, when I go into the Market and download an app it seems to work and install like it should. However, if I try and install a second app after downloading and installing the first app it gives me an error saying "error downloading 'app name'". There is insufficient space on the device." Now I know there is plenty of space on my device. According to the task manager Storage tab I have used 219mb/1.85gbs of internal phone storage. Also, if I reboot my phone and then try to download the exact same app as before I can download and install it just fine.
Thanks again for the help.
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So I did some searching around the forum it seems the insufficient space error I've been getting is something to do with the new version of the market. And I've had a work around by just going and searching for the app on my computer and it the app store sends the app to my device so that part is fine. So at least I have a work around for that.
However, I still would like to get my apps back in TiBackup for the simply reason I do have a few paid apps and I don't really want to have to purchase the apps again. I've downloaded several of the "free daily apps" from the Amazon App store and can't download them again for free.
Thanks for the help.
On the front page of tibu hit the menu button, choose batch, restore missing apps with data...
If there is a 0 there, go to settings>applications> manage applications>titanium backup> clear data and cache
If you have problem with titanium application backup you must need to hire a developer.
Restore file list has strikethrough / greyed out text and fails to restore.
studacris said:
On the front page of tibu hit the menu button, choose batch, restore missing apps with data...
If there is a 0 there, go to settings>applications> manage applications>titanium backup> clear data and cache
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You obviously have not read this thread. This has been tried and failed. Also, what you explained, is simply the way that TB is supposed to work. Do you not think that if it worked as intended, we would be having these issues?
Markline said:
If you have problem with titanium application backup you must need to hire a developer.
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Just because there is a bug/glitch/error in an app does NOT the user does not know what they are doing....
I consider myself a very experienced Android user. I had tried clearing the cache for the app as the first thing I did. I then uninstalled the TB, and rebooted my phone. I then reinstalled TB Root, and the Key. When I try to restore my apps from the External SD card, it lists them all, and has each of them with a line striking the names out. If I select an individual one, and try to restore it, TB pops up the RESTORING dialog box, and sits at 0%. It does the same for each and every app, either individual or in a batch restore. In a batch restore it starts with the last file name, alphabetically, Zillow in my case, and sits at 0%. I let it try to restore one single app with data for well over an hour, and it still remained at 0%
Did this ever get fixed? I'm having the very same problem after a factory reset
nightraving said:
Did this ever get fixed? I'm having the very same problem after a factory reset
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Nearly 7 months later and no reply....I'm having the same issue. Been using TiBU for many, many, many years. This is the first I've come into issue with this. Backed up my apps to Box cloud storage and also Google Drive Storage. Google's restore successfully restores almost all of my apps with the exception of a few apps that have a strike-through line. When I checked the TiBU backup folder on Drive for those apps, I noticed that of the three files that TiBU creates for each app (for restoring purposes), two of the three files were missing (so it was a bad backup of those apps to the cloud).
Now, with Box.com....all the app's have their corresponding THREE files that TiBU creates during backups BUT....when restoring everything from Box EVERY single app is crossed out with a strike-through. I've been rooting my phones and using backup services like TiBU since the very first Samsung Galaxy S phone ever. My current issue here resides on the Motorola Nexus 6 stock-rom (but rooted).
I'm stumped.
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Kal-El7 said:
Nearly 7 months later and no reply....I'm having the same issue. Been using TiBU for many, many, many years. This is the first I've come into issue with this. Backed up my apps to Box cloud storage and also Google Drive Storage. Google's restore successfully restores almost all of my apps with the exception of a few apps that have a strike-through line. When I checked the TiBU backup folder on Drive for those apps, I noticed that of the three files that TiBU creates for each app (for restoring purposes), two of the three files were missing (so it was a bad backup of those apps to the cloud).
Now, with Box.com....all the app's have their corresponding THREE files that TiBU creates during backups BUT....when restoring everything from Box EVERY single app is crossed out with a strike-through. I've been rooting my phones and using backup services like TiBU since the very first Samsung Galaxy S phone ever. My current issue here resides on the Motorola Nexus 6 stock-rom (but rooted).
I'm stumped.
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Wait...just saw something right now. Per one poster's suggestion, I decided to restore an app from the Play Store and then open up TiBU to see what happened. I noticed that NOW the RESTORE option (which the word "restore" was always missing in all the striked-through apps) was available. When I selected the Restore button, TiBU asks: Data only?
It would seem that the only DATA was restored to Box.com and not the actual app. I'll confirm this further by trying a few more apps.
Problem is, I think one of my apps was a sideloaded app, patched. shucks.

App disappear on screen

I use note 7000b 2.3.5dxkk1
rooted
I found this problem that app I installed in sdcard
their icon on home sceeen sometime they disappear
they change to gray clour and cant open it.
Hv to restart it and will be normal its happen several time
so where this problem might come from
anyone hv this before?
Thanks
Oh and sometime my gallery is empty too
u think is might comefrom exsdcard(Sandisk class6 32g)
I have the exact same issue. I guess it's titanium backup related. Have you ever get your apps frozen via titanium backup or moved them to sdcard using titanium backup?
Rebooting the device once solved my problem for good. I never had such issue ever since I rebooted.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
captainhakan said:
I have the exact same issue. I guess it's titanium backup related. Have you ever get your apps frozen via titanium backup or moved them to sdcard using titanium backup?
Rebooting the device once solved my problem for good. I never had such issue ever since I rebooted.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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I never used titaniumbackup for anything yet
only back up once for game never restore.
So I glad atleast the problem might not came from sdcard
which I just bought it.
So May be hv to wait for ICS. Its may help my issue.
Thanks a lot.
captainhakan said:
I have the exact same issue. I guess it's titanium backup related. Have you ever get your apps frozen via titanium backup or moved them to sdcard using titanium backup?
Rebooting the device once solved my problem for good. I never had such issue ever since I rebooted.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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This has been happening to me too and I'm on an unrooted stock ROM with a 16-gb Class 4 Transcend micro SDHC.
don't install too many apps to sd and you won't have this problem.
known issue with sd card. but none of the devs fix the problem
Let me give it to Samsung Gnote ... i never used to install so much apps on any of my previous devices. So much built in memory is provacating
darrensnake said:
don't install too many apps to sd and you won't have this problem.
known issue with sd card. but none of the devs fix the problem
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Actually I install only a few app
and couple game in sd card mostly,
I only kept my file in it.
I hv change my sd class4 to class6 once
I though its too slow but problem still there
Fast Boot option may be the culprit
This is actually a long-standing problem in Android OS, going back at least two years (donkey's years in this technology!)
Something about the interaction of the OS and an sdcard formated for holding apps creates odd behaviours.
Lots of complicated suggestions have been made, including reformatting sdcard, reinstalling ROMs, changing launchers (the one suggested here) and such.
None of these approaches seems really to solve the problem even in most cases.
This is the first I have read about app overload on an sdcard being a "known issue" (known to whom? XDA?), although I can well believe the possibility that it COULD be true. Still... Just where might the cutoff point be? Also, isn't an active app loaded into memory, so this would be the real bottleneck?
What seems to be working for me (at least for the last week or so) is the following very simple tweak.
CUT TO THE SOLUTION BELOW -- SEARCH FOR ////
Some (not all) of my apps moved to SD (all by Titanium Backup Pro) have begun to disappear and (sometimes) reappear without warning after I began to add and delete large Virtual Machines created in QEMU from my 16GB SanDisc class 10 microSD card on my HTC Droid Incredible running rooted stock Verizon Android Froyo 2.2.3. I know this thread is far from my phone's "home base", but from what I can tell this problem with disappearing apps located on an sdcard is NOT determined by hardware or even Android version.
I also happen to use LauncherPro by Federico Carnales instead of the built-in HTC Sense launcher. I noted elsewhere on XDA that a user had suggested that because at least some (maybe all) launchers start before the SD Card that this may be a problem, especially if changes are made to the sdcard that the launcher did not perform, or was not active during their performance by other apps such as Titanium Backup. That fits my situation, because I unmounted the SD, physically removed it to a PC, and added/deleted large VM files to save (lots) of time. No problems of this sort before I did this, so there must be some connection.
I noted that other users have tried reformatting SD, substituting different brands of SD, using newer/older SD etc. None of these reliably helped. So I skipped these options.
//// The (simple!) solution I tried that SEEMS to work (only time will tell!) is buried in the main Android Settings (accessed from the Menu button while in Home screen). Under "Applications" there is a setting "Fast Boot" that I checked long ago and forgot about (it seemed like a good thing to do at the time). The text warns "Turn off to use some Market apps" (that shows the age of my 2-yr old used phone and Android OS -- ohmygosh!-- because it refers to Market rather than Google Play Store!) Anyway, I unchecked the option and rebooted the phone.
Yes, it took a bit longer to boot (maybe a whole minute!), but after waiting about another minute ALL my home screen apps had normal icons and loaded properly. Titanium Backup Pro batch scenarios confirmed there were no apps in a forced uninstalled state (i.e. I had not done the deed, the system somehow had done it or at least rendered the apps "invisible" to Titanium, which decided they needed reinstallation).
The only odd behaviour was that auto brightness was turned off after I unchecked Fast Boot and rebooted. Going into Android Settings > Display and rechecking "auto brightness" took care of that. No other oddities or strange behaviours thus far (but it has only been about an hour).
I will report anything further on this thread only (Samsung Fascinate > Fascinate Q&A > What just happend? apps on sdcard) if anything else requires reporting. Silence implies success!
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873670
(I am copying this post to other relevant threads, but will not post anything further elsewhere -- only there. This is a bit arbitrary (especially now that the chosen thread no longer is the most recent active one on this topic), but I hope this approach pleases the XDA sysops/admins) :angel:

managing apps

I should try to get a clear answer before i proceed with moving apps again. Under settings->applications settings-> manage applications, I got four tabs in there. "downloaded", "all", "sdcard" & "running". Currently, I only got a few apps under SDCARD and none of them are checked to the right. I could long press on each of them and open up a page where I could clear data, force stop, uninstall and move to sdcard. I could perform similar operation under "downloaded" tab and "all" tabs as well.
My question is (1) why some apps are grouped under SDCARD tab while others are not (2) which are the widgets apps that I am not supposed to move? will these widgets actually have "move to sdcard" option blanked out to prevent me from moving them? if not, how could I tell between ordinary apps and widget apps?
(3)I seem to read somewhere that says apps will automatically be moved anyway if I have a sd-ext paritition in ext2-4. I suppose there's a script during initialization that does that. Is this true?
(4) there's a setting under cyanogenmod settings -> applications called allow application moving. it is unchecked right now so what exactly does it control?

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