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MicroSDHC 32GB C2 or 16GB C10?

I was thinking about upgrading from my current Sandisk 16GB c2. As many of you know Sandisk is out with there 32GB c2 MicroSDHC which is selling for $100 by Verizon. But if you look on ebay you can also find other 32gb c2/c4 MicroSDHC from TopRAM and Centon. Now I personally have never heard any of these company so I am very spectacle.
Now my question is which would you go with 32GB c2 or 16GB class c6/c10? To me its storage vs transfer rate.
1) Sandisk 32GB MicroSDHC Class 2 = $100
2) Kingston 16GB MicroSDHC Class 10 = $135

Clearly you should really been far 16GB storage even as decided to use even go want to do look more like 32GB transfer rate?

FYI 16gb class 10 Kingston is $98.99 over @ newegg and if you look hard enough u can find it around $79

I am not sure what you are saying but some claims that the Sandisk 32GB C2 they get around 5mb/s write. So IDK ATM as Kingston 32GB Class 6 is selling for $700 on ebay WTF? Last time I check they didn't even have 32GB class 2, could be fake who knows.

sti-06 said:
FYI 16gb class 10 Kingston is $98.99 over @ newegg and if you look hard enough u can find it around $79
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I am aware of that as they been had it for sometimes now but I was more leading to 32GB but who knows if I do decide to go with 16GB I might go with C10 from Kingston.
But has anyone tried TopRAM 32GB Class 4 or Centon 32GB Class 4? If so is it thoughly tested via R/W IOPs and fully chunking the card.

HyperNode said:
I am aware of that as they been had it for sometimes now but I was more leading to 32GB but who knows if I do decide to go with 16GB I might go with C10 from Kingston.
But has anyone tried TopRAM 32GB Class 4 or Centon 32GB Class 4? If so is it thoughly tested via R/W IOPs and fully chunking the card.
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You cant go wrong with ScanDisk
its a safe bet

ilordvader could you test the R/W speed of your card and post back.

So after searching and reading many threads in various forums I came to the conclusion that even class 6 is an overkill so class 10 is out of the question other than bragging rights.
Now has anyone used Transcend or A-Data? they seem to be selling at Newegg so they can't be questionable unknown like TopRAM or Centon which I never even heard of until I was searching for MicroSDHC.
Anyone recommend any 16GB class 6 cards? I am still unsure on not ordering SanDisk 32GB Class 2 as storage is high but the speed is low. As majority of user who running Android port do recommend getting anything over class 2.

Extreme candidates:
Sandisk 32GB MicroSDHC Class 2 - $100 < Storage
Kingston 16GB MicroSDHC Class 10 - $135 < Speed
Are these the only reputable 16GB Class 6 candidates?
A-Data 16GB Class 6 - $53.99
Transcend 16GB Class 6 - $62.99
Lexar 16GB Class 6 - $69.99 < Questionable; produce inferior products
Has anyone heard of these company before?
Centon 16GB Class 6 - $58.99 < Questionable; but listed under Newegg
3C_Pro 16GB Class 6 - $44.99
TOPRAM 16GB Class 6 - $44.99
Team 16GB Class 6 - $44.99

i bought this. Komputerbay 32GB MicroSD SDHC Microsdhc Class 6. £88, which was preety steep.
i get read speads of around 3.5 mb/s and write speeds of 4.5 mb/s, i cant find my 2 speed to compare but it does seem quicker.
though the web site gaurantees minimum 6 mb/s write speeds.
it was amazon so i though it would be ok.
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just tested it again i am getting 6 mb/s read speeds now.

johnwalk did you thoroughly test the card? by formatting and filling it up fully with chunks? if you can confirm its overall performance then I might also order it. Can't wait for other vendors to make it as I need it now. On class 2 card it takes like 30min to just move around 4.5gb now that's way to long for me as I'm always on the go, but thanks for your reply as ill look in to that company.

I don't want to spoil anything, but my HD2 just destroyed my 8GB Sandisk card. 'Luckily' this was not a $100 card, but still.......
Are you shure you want to spent that much, or did you never have your previous card(s) being destroyed?
Wish you goodluck anyway

i just formated it normally the filled it up with music and video still got two gigs left im like a dog with two tails i dont know what to listen to first lol. but the tests i done with it was when it was 28 gigs full only had it two weeks and at first it was slow, especially when you went into the music player it took a few seconds to update but hey a lot of files to browse but its been ok the past few days, but im now at the stage where i dont plug it into my computer anyway i just access my pc and transfer albums by wifi takes about a minute an album, any video usually gets streamed anyway, but wanted a bigger selection when i go on holiday next month.
def recomend this card thougth the first few days i thought i should have gone for the class two, im now happy with it now it all working properly.

I'm at work now and in an hour when I go home ill thoroughly look in to this card and post my finding. As I never even have heard of the company and if I like it ill post feedback here so others can buy it with confidence.
Far as flr goes how did HD2 destroy your card? corrupted the data? or the flash device is unreadable fully? BTW I never needed an flash card before as this is my first smartphone. Also I was welling to spend $750 few months before HD2 was officially deployed in USA. So I'm not worried about $100.
PS: Also have an eye on HD3 as the spec is 90% accurate from my guess after looking at the specs. So let's see what happens as I don't want a device which may have 2 versions, hence EU-Leo512 and EU-Leo1024.

off topic but im seriously looking into the new batch of android tablets which are just coming out now, maybe 7" or 10"

HyperNode said:
I'm at work now and in an hour when I go home ill thoroughly look in to this card and post my finding. As I never even have heard of the company and if I like it ill post feedback here so others can buy it with confidence.
Far as flr goes how did HD2 destroy your card? corrupted the data? or the flash device is unreadable fully? BTW I never needed an flash card before as this is my first smartphone. Also I was welling to spend $750 few months before HD2 was officially deployed in USA. So I'm not worried about $100.
PS: Also have an eye on HD3 as the spec is 90% accurate from my guess after looking at the specs. So let's see what happens as I don't want a device which may have 2 versions, hence EU-Leo512 and EU-Leo1024.
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Hope the HD3 is for Att this time

I've got up to 14.7 MB/sec on my 16GB Kingston Class 10.. and my phone works soo smooth now!
Compared android sliding of homepage on my 2GB Class 2 card and my 16GB Class 10 card, and there is some lag with the 2GB card, and none at all (100% realtime) with the 16GB card..
So, personally I'd say; save some exrtra bucks and go for the 16GB Class 10 Kingston one!

@HyperNode
There are several threads here regarding SD cards being destroyed, or whatever description is given to it.
From one moment to another you get the message that you're card has to be formatted. If you accept it, it says something like (only) 30 MB being available, which doesn't get formatted. Your card can no longer be seen by your HD2, nor by your PC or any other cardreader (afaik)
I´ve never had this problem before. It looks like a specific HD2 problem.
Either with or without a combination to a specific brand or card.
I'm very curious about your experiences.
Please keep us updated.
Thanks and goodluck!

Same here. Mythen hd 2 just destroyed my SD card des SYstem ago
It happened already bevor, Thatcher i couldn't See Thema data anymore , but nie i Cantel even Format it anymore
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microSD Card classes

Hi guys. I was wondering if there are any issues making bootable SD cards for honeycomb or froyo and etc.
I am thinking of buying an micro sd card for the nook color.
which one of you guys would recommend?
16GB class10? 8GB class10?
I have seen all mostly using 8gb or 4gb at most. is there any issue using 16gb class10? please advice. thanks!

should be fine.

waiteck said:
Hi guys. I was wondering if there are any issues making bootable SD cards for honeycomb or froyo and etc.
I am thinking of buying an micro sd card for the nook color.
which one of you guys would recommend?
16GB class10? 8GB class10?
I have seen all mostly using 8gb or 4gb at most. is there any issue using 16gb class10? please advice. thanks!
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If they are same class then you should get about the same speed off either and all your looking at is size... if you want 8gb of space get the 8gb if you want 16gb of space get that one instead.....
I would not recommend using anything lower than a Class 6 card however.

I've run HC on a 8gb class 4 card for a while. No real problems. Maybe lags a little time to time, but that may also just be the rom.

i see... initially i thought there were issues with class10 16gb cards.
thanks all for the input!

I purchased two 8GB Class 10 cards. I use one for storage and the other for Honeycomb and it runs great.

Can the Nook actually even use the speed of a class 10? I know many phones can only fully use 4 or 6, with the only benefit of 10 being faster transfer while connected directly to PC. Class 2 is just slow on everything, of course .

waiteck said:
i see... initially i thought there were issues with class10 16gb cards.
thanks all for the input!
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I tried class 10 and class 4 16gb cards because I really wanted the space. I had all sorts of problems running on the class 10 once v04 honeycomb came out and the class 4 would run froyo and HC but it was so slow it couldn't be used. Some people seem to be using them but when I relaced it with a 8gb class 10 Patriot card, it runs great.
As to whether the nook can use a class 10, I don't know. I certainly know it MUCH faster with a class 10 than a class 4. I also bought a class 6 AData card but I have not tried it as a speed comparison. I was just tired of running back to the store to return them and test another so I bought two and started with the fastest one.
16gb might work with future versions but for now, I am sticking with 8gb cards.
I recommend the Patriot 8gb Class 10. The model I bought was the LX Signature Series: PSF8GMCSDHC10

therealguppy said:
If they are same class then you should get about the same speed off either and all your looking at is size... if you want 8gb of space get the 8gb if you want 16gb of space get that one instead.....
I would not recommend using anything lower than a Class 6 card however.
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Not necessarily. Class only implies a guaranteed minimum WRITE throughput, e.g. class 4 = 4MB/s, class 6 = 6MB/s, etc. that a particular class of card is capable of supporting. There is no guarantee that the tablet, camera, etc. is actually capable of achieving/sustaining that throughput rate though.
Read throughput can be anything, but are usually close to write speed, and another factor not as important most of the time with tablets is the latency of r/w accesses.
In the pre-SDHC days Japanese made(Toshiba - only Japanese maker) uSDs were the best in terms of speed and latency, followed by most Taiwan(various) made cards. Chinese(various) made cards were the worst by FAR. Also the pre-SDHC uSDs had varying r/w throughput and latency depending upon how "full" they were with the same general rule as above applying as to where manufactured. Presumably this is not the case with SDHC as the class implies that regardless of how full a card is that it WILL maintain that minimum write throughput.
8 v. 16: From the pricing that I've seen 2 8GB cards are cheaper than a single 16GB -> 8GB a better deal IMO. e.g. class 6 8GB are <$15 while 16GB class 10 are >$35 at least on newegg...
Another factor to consider is that you likely don't need a class 10 card unless you happen to have a very high performance/high resolution digital video recorder... i.e. class 2 is likely even good enough for most tablet video and other applications, but since class 6 cards can be had at reasonable prices(online, b&m are profiteeringly insane in their markups) those would probably be the best choice.
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I'll let you know about class 4 4GB uSDs as a local b&M unbelievably has an approximately reasonable price on PNY(probably Taiwan) class 4 4GB uSDs, $10 which is cheap enough to pitch them if they're junk or use them for applications that don't require high throughput.
(On a side note most class 4 and class 6 uSDs work great with Nintendo DSes, which I'd suspect are MUCH more sensitive to throughput and access latencies... or so I've read...)
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I see Stevr had posted which Patriot he had success with in Post #8 of this thread, and in the HC Preview v4 thread there have been a few negative posts about certain cards not livinig up to their class ratings... so I have to ask...
Is there a single thread recommending or comparing the various MicroSD cards, how they've worked for Froyo or HC booting/running off them? (i.e. a central posting of "this one works great..." or "this one is too slow"?)
EDIT: I found this talking about cards for Froyo from SD -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=946896 which has some makers, size and class.. no specific model numbers.

KidJoe said:
I see Stevr had posted which Patriot he had success with in Post #8 of this thread, and in the HC Preview v4 thread there have been a few negative posts about certain cards not livinig up to their class ratings... so I have to ask...
Is there a single thread recommending or comparing the various MicroSD cards, how they've worked for Froyo or HC booting/running off them? (i.e. a central posting of "this one works great..." or "this one is too slow"?)
EDIT: I found this talking about cards for Froyo from SD -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=946896 which has some makers, size and class.. no specific model numbers.
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seems like alot of 16gb class 10 are having issues with running froyo off memory cards.
might get a 8gb class 10 instead. and a spare 16gb class 10.

32gb class 2 vs class 4

Hey guys,
I'm interested in getting a 32gb card. I will be watching movies off it and just basically reading books. Is there a huge diff between the two? I googled and I found the diff write and read speeds but my question is how relevant is it to the user? Like will the movies be choppier or books open slower? etc

Julian2103 said:
Hey guys,
I'm interested in getting a 32gb card. I will be watching movies off it and just basically reading books. Is there a huge diff between the two? I googled and I found the diff write and read speeds but my question is how relevant is it to the user? Like will the movies be choppier or books open slower? etc
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Sadly, to throw a wrench in your question, there is authority behind the class markings. Basically, there is nothing stoping makers for marking a card Class 10, even when it can barely do 1MB/s writes. So, how does that answer your question?
It comes down to brand. Sandisk by far makes the best microSD cards, which almost always outperform their rating. I have an 8Gb Class 2, that constantly benches at 5MB/s sustained write, and 12MB/s sustained read. I also have an 8GB Kingston clas4, that can barely hold 2MB/s write, if it is lucky. The other issue few talk about is random reads, where again, the Sandisk is much faster (and random reads are not part of the class specifications)..
So, if you get a decent brand (again, Sandisk), a class 2 should be suitable for all music, and most movies. If you can afford it, class 4 will give you wiggle room.

How about adata? Have you had any experience with them?

Julian2103 said:
How about adata? Have you had any experience with them?
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personal experience no, but i haven't heard alot bad (actually, better than Kingston in many cases). I know they have decent prices on their cards.
With what i was saying before, it is fair to mention that while slow, my Kingston does still work. But saving things to it was painful, and so i avoid its use. Even if you don't get the fastest card, i think the biggest pain will be filling it once.. after that, using it should be ok..

I see. What about the performance? Saving stuff to it isnt much of an issue to me I think. Im more concerned on the performance. Like running movies off it and launching programs etc the sandisk sounds awesome but the price is much higher

For the use you are planning(movies) the big factor will be sequential read speeds. The class system is too easy for the manufacturers to game. Check the specs for the card you are looking at...if they don't tell you, it's likely because they suck. Sandisk class 2 cards are, as stated, usually better than the class 2 they are rated.

so you guys would recommend a class 2 32gb sandisk over a class 4 adata card of the same size yeah?

Can't really say one way or the other. From reading reviews at Newegg...seems like Adata tech support might be a bit iffy...then again those reviews are usually posted by those who have issues or feel like they have to defend their purchase(ie...fanboi's).
One thing I can see for myself...Adata is the only manufacturer on Newegg to actually list their full specs. Even on the manufacturers pages...only Adata has manned up and posted specs. otherwise they all just fall back on the SDHC specifications for class...which as stated can be gamed a bit.
At the end of it all..it's your cash...spend it the way you feel like...do some research for yourself first.

I have a scandisk class 4 32GB and it is way slower then a smaller class 6 that I have. For me, I don't think I could stomach anything slower then the class 4 for large files.

Divine_Madcat said:
Sadly, to throw a wrench in your question, there is authority behind the class markings. Basically, there is nothing stoping makers for marking a card Class 10, even when it can barely do 1MB/s writes. So, how does that answer your question?
It comes down to brand. Sandisk by far makes the best microSD cards, which almost always outperform their rating. I have an 8Gb Class 2, that constantly benches at 5MB/s sustained write, and 12MB/s sustained read. I also have an 8GB Kingston clas4, that can barely hold 2MB/s write, if it is lucky. The other issue few talk about is random reads, where again, the Sandisk is much faster (and random reads are not part of the class specifications)..
So, if you get a decent brand (again, Sandisk), a class 2 should be suitable for all music, and most movies. If you can afford it, class 4 will give you wiggle room.
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Sandisk is great. I was originally running Nookie Froyo from a class 2 Sandisk. It was actually pretty solid. I moved up to a Transcend class 6 and it's been good too. Both seem to perform well over their class specification when I'm transferring files and have been very stable.
On the other hand, my friend has a Kingston class 10 which seems pretty buggy. A lot of force close errors, looping boots, etc. Though these could just be a coincidence. Haven't seen him transfer any files though, so I can't judge the speed.

SD Cards..
You should be aware that Sandisk, Adata and others do not actually manufacture flash memory chips, they mostly package and test it - the big boys in the game are Intel, Samsung, Toshiba and Hynix. Depending on where or from whom Sandisk buys the basic chip the specs may be different.

Divine_Madcat said:
Sadly, to throw a wrench in your question, there is authority behind the class markings. Basically, there is nothing stoping makers for marking a card Class 10, even when it can barely do 1MB/s writes. So, how does that answer your question?
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Actually there is a requirement if you're in the SD Association. But in reality anyone can stamp a C10 on a card, especially no-name brands.
Julian2103 said:
so you guys would recommend a class 2 32gb sandisk over a class 4 adata card of the same size yeah?
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Absolutely. AData are junk in my experience.
Kingston and SanDisc are the only ones that are reliable for all devices that I've owned. Others are hit and miss, PARTICULARLY Patriot. I've had 3 Patriot cards that were JUNK in most devices. I had two Patriot SD cards for a camera that were fine but couldn't work right in anything else, and I (stupidly) purchased an 8G uSD card a few years ago for a phone and it was junk there, and I've periodically tried it in new devices for giggles and it's been junk in every single one.
I'll bet a SanDisc C4 out classes any other brand C10 in device like a phone or tablet.
Side note: All 3 Patriot's work just fine on my computer. I did tests particuarlly on the 8G uSD over and over and over and it was fast and reliable in my card reader. Every device locks up or goes slow as hell if it's in 'em. My guess is that they didn't follow specs closely.

So a Sandisk Class 4, 8GB would be a good pick?

I Am Marino said:
So a Sandisk Class 4, 8GB would be a good pick?
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I recently bought this on and have found it to be an excellent performer. Loading/watching mp4 movies. The 30 day return window is pretty generous.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sandisk-32GB-Mi...352023?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2eb43c6317

SD cards are a complicated topic... not to throw another wrench into the system but you also want to be careful WHERE you buy your card. SanDisk counterfeiting is RAMPANT since a vendor can take a blank card, less than a pennies worth of ink and then charge you some percentage of the SanDisk price while still reaping a huge profit. As unfortunate as it is, real SanDisk cards always seem to just work while the other cheaper cards can be hit or miss. Honestly though the only real problem with off brand cards and the NC I have had is that they don't always boot so good. So I use my SanDisk 8GB C2 (bought from Costco) to boot and my Patriot 16GB C10 to watch movies and store stuff. Buying from Retail, Newegg, or Amazon (Amazon itself, not a sold through vendor on Amazon) should help make sure whatever you buy is the real thing. Good Luck!

[Q] SDHC 32 gig class 6

Just got NC for early Father's Day! I luv ma fam!
Everything I been finding here talks about 2,4, or 8 gigs SD cards.
NC says it can use up to 32gig.
Anyone tried this? I figure SDHC 32 G class 6 would work.

MrGeek said:
Just got NC for early Father's Day! I luv ma fam!
Everything I been finding here talks about 2,4, or 8 gigs SD cards.
NC says it can use up to 32gig.
Anyone tried this? I figure SDHC 32 G class 6 would work.
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Everything I've read states the higher capacity cards don't do well running ROMs. Like you I'm new to the nook so I"m sure someone else with more experience will chime in.

I have a 32 gig card installed right now. Works just fine as a data card.
If you want to run custom ROMS off the card, make sure its a sandisk. That flapping sound about larger sized card being bad for Roms is a buncha crap in my opinion (and I have the benchmarks on this card to prove it), but the BRAND of card makes a huge difference when running Roms. Avoid transcend and PNY like the plague.
That said, if you just want the card for data, then yes, the NC can handle them just fine.

skwalas said:
I have a 32 gig card installed right now. Works just fine as a data card.
If you want to run custom ROMS off the card, make sure its a sandisk. That flapping sound about larger sized card being bad for Roms is a buncha crap in my opinion (and I have the benchmarks on this card to prove it), but the BRAND of card makes a huge difference when running Roms. Avoid transcend and PNY like the plague.
That said, if you just want the card for data, then yes, the NC can handle them just fine.
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What size Sandisk card do you recommend for running custom ROMs? I've read 8 but I really would like to run a 16.

With a sandisk, I can't see any reason why a 16 or even 32 gig card would give you trouble on roms.
Using the card to run your "operating system" seems to require a higher small-block read/write speed than most cards have. Two things seem to affect it: 1) brand (sandisk is currently the only way to go), and 2)it seems that higher classed cards sacrifice the small block performance a bit. This makes sense to me, since the classification related to large block sequential read/writes (iirc), so some trade-iffs are always expected.
See this thread for useful things.
And I think most people are buying the smaller card mostly because of price, and partly due to a herd mentality on threads like the above.

Sandisk 16gb is just fine for running the Rom off the sd card; that is my current setup.

LBN1 said:
Sandisk 16gb is just fine for running the Rom off the sd card; that is my current setup.
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What class? I'm having a hard time finding class 4.

skwalas said:
I have a 32 gig card installed right now. Works just fine as a data card.
If you want to run custom ROMS off the card, make sure its a sandisk. That flapping sound about larger sized card being bad for Roms is a buncha crap in my opinion (and I have the benchmarks on this card to prove it), but the BRAND of card makes a huge difference when running Roms. Avoid transcend and PNY like the plague.
That said, if you just want the card for data, then yes, the NC can handle them just fine.
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Funny how all the Transcend cards in all 3 Nooks in my house are brilliant. I've used Transcend for years and have never had a problem, be it in my cameras to my phones.

Nburnes said:
Funny how all the Transcend cards in all 3 Nooks in my house are brilliant. I've used Transcend for years and have never had a problem, be it in my cameras to my phones.
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I was referring to the specific instance of using transcend for running cm7 for example. I understand transcend and patriot are decent when used for data, and I have PNY cards in our cameras, so they seem to work fine for data.

I have a wintec SDCH 16g class 4 and it works fine, but I only use it for data.

I've been looking into this, and here's what it boils down to:
Most MicroSD cards are set up for data transfer aimed at large files, such as video or high resolution pictures. The majority of the market these cards are manufactured for are digital camcorders, cameras, and smart phones with cameras.
They've gotten great at streaming media to and from the cards, and using them as storage mediums.
Running an operating system from the card requires a whole lot of small data transfers, which is not a specification that manufacterers pay much attention to. Most people would never notice improvement in this area of the manufacturing process, so the companies don't waste money on it.
Different manufacturers have different ideas of what their product should be capable of.
SanDisk is the brand that has consistently tested better for small data transfer then other card makers.
Running programs/operating systems from a MicroSD card is a new animal, something that hasn't really been done before now, and the tablet market is still in it's infancy.
I'm sure this issue will be addressed by the hardware makers of memory cards over the next year or so, but for now we are stuck with the task of trying to figure out what works for our purpose given what's available on the market right now.
All this being said, out of a handful of cards I own, my 16 gig SanDisk class 2 MicroSD card is my highest performing card - more then twice as fast as even 4 out of 5 of the 8 gig SanDisk cards I have.
Here is the link to the software we are using to test the cards: Crystal Disk Mark
Post 5 in this thread has a link that takes you to the one that has become our communal benchmark thread, and has a lot of info on this topic.
I would surmise that a 32 gig SanDisk brand card would probably be pretty good given that:
-Sandisk 8 gig cards (in class 2 and 4) are the general recommendation
-SanDisk 16 gig cards consistently test to a higher performance level then the 8 gig cards.
If this is the beginning of a pattern, and the larger capacity SanDisk cards are inherently manufactered to a higher small data standard, then theoretically the 32 gig card would be better.
But, this is only a theory. A 32 gig card is more then just a couple of bucks, and I don't think we have enough benchmarks on them yet to say one way or another.
Even with the SanDisk 8 gig cards, there is a wide range of what you could end up with on small data transfer speed. It's kind of pot luck. Even the slowest ones are many orders of magnitude faster then most other manufacturers, though.
This would be a good thread for people who do have 32 gig cards of any brand to chime in on, so we could keep the discussion about the largest supported capacity card on the Nook seperate from the other threads on this topic.

I saw a thread a week or so ago regarding testing class 4 cards and which were better. I just ordered a NC the other day. Anyone know the thread?

Blue6IX said:
I've been looking into this, and here's what it boils down to:
Most MicroSD cards are set up for data transfer aimed at large files, such as video or high resolution pictures. The majority of the market these cards are manufactured for are digital camcorders, cameras, and smart phones with cameras.
They've gotten great at streaming media to and from the cards, and using them as storage mediums.
Running an operating system from the card requires a whole lot of small data transfers, which is not a specification that manufacterers pay much attention to. Most people would never notice improvement in this area of the manufacturing process, so the companies don't waste money on it.
Different manufacturers have different ideas of what their product should be capable of.
SanDisk is the brand that has consistently tested better for small data transfer then other card makers.
Running programs/operating systems from a MicroSD card is a new animal, something that hasn't really been done before now, and the tablet market is still in it's infancy.
I'm sure this issue will be addressed by the hardware makers of memory cards over the next year or so, but for now we are stuck with the task of trying to figure out what works for our purpose given what's available on the market right now.
All this being said, out of a handful of cards I own, my 16 gig SanDisk class 2 MicroSD card is my highest performing card - more then twice as fast as even 4 out of 5 of the 8 gig SanDisk cards I have.
Here is the link to the software we are using to test the cards: Crystal Disk Mark
Post 5 in this thread has a link that takes you to the one that has become our communal benchmark thread, and has a lot of info on this topic.
I would surmise that a 32 gig SanDisk brand card would probably be pretty good given that:
-Sandisk 8 gig cards (in class 2 and 4) are the general recommendation
-SanDisk 16 gig cards consistently test to a higher performance level then the 8 gig cards.
If this is the beginning of a pattern, and the larger capacity SanDisk cards are inherently manufactered to a higher small data standard, then theoretically the 32 gig card would be better.
But, this is only a theory. A 32 gig card is more then just a couple of bucks, and I don't think we have enough benchmarks on them yet to say one way or another.
Even with the SanDisk 8 gig cards, there is a wide range of what you could end up with on small data transfer speed. It's kind of pot luck. Even the slowest ones are many orders of magnitude faster then most other manufacturers, though.
This would be a good thread for people who do have 32 gig cards of any brand to chime in on, so we could keep the discussion about the largest supported capacity card on the Nook seperate from the other threads on this topic.
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Thank you for a very informative post. As I mentioned earlier I'm new to the NC and your post has helped me considerably.

androidmonkey said:
I saw a thread a week or so ago regarding testing class 4 cards and which were better. I just ordered a NC the other day. Anyone know the thread?
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You might mean my thread on comparing speed results between different readers using the benchmark software.
It's more a look at the testing software and methods of doing so then the actual cards themselves.
The more people who post benchmark results in the thread skwalas linked to back in post 5, the better of an idea we'll have of what works for us.
The amount of information we've collected so far in such a short time is astonishing - this is a great community.

harpo1 said:
What class? I'm having a hard time finding class 4.
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Sandisk 16gb, Class 4; Got it from Radio Shack a month or so ago on sale for like $25.

32 Gig
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004G7D0IW
Bought this one about a month ago. Transferred my 16G class 2 from Radio Shack to the 32G then expanded the partition. I run CM7 off the SD. Works GREAT!. I run movies, apps from the card with tons of room.

Thanks for all the replies! They been very helpful!
However...
Here is the link to the software we are using to test the cards: Crystal Disk Mark
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I tried downloading that and it got flagged as malware by Microsoft Security Essentials.

Rocking a 32 Lexar Class 10 here. Just download SD Tools from the market and its running 11 MB/s write and 25 MB/s read.

lucas993 said:
Rocking a 32 Lexar Class 10 here. Just download SD Tools from the market and its running 11 MB/s write and 25 MB/s read.
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IIRC, Lexar splits their Class X cards into two more classifications, a regular and an Ultra class. Which one was yours?
Also, Radio Shack currently has 8gb Sandisk C4 cards for sale at 14.99. Perfect for playing with an SD install. With Crystal mark and a cheapie USB reader I got 2.5mb/s read, 1.5 mb/s write (both of the small block ones). I believe these are the important ones for an SD card based ROM?

I suspect the main reason there's not much info out there on 32GB cards is that people are less willing to drop $50-80 on something that may not work (IF they're trying to run a custom ROM from the card). If you're not trying to set up a custom ROM install on the SD, get any card you want--you may appreciate that higher sequential read/write in the higher class cards when you're moving multiple GB of movies or music to and from the card.
From everything I've read, the size of the card makes no difference whatsoever. The only reason people harp on the 8GB and 16GB Sandisk cards is because those specific models (both class 2 and 4 in those sizes) have been tested many times and return both reliably high small-block random writes and positive anecdotal reports for running ROMs. The size, manufacturer and class are irrelevant in and of themselves: they just let us identify specific models identified as most consistently working well.
Also, CrystalDiskMark is not malware: just do a custom install and choose not to install whatever is bundled with it (do this always for all software, I'd say). It's whatever program they use to suggest other software that triggers the false positives in security programs.

Best Micro SD Card/Class for ICS?

I'm looking at installing one of the ICS ROMs on my N1 pretty soon, but my current Micro SD card is a bit small and I want one that is fast and with a lot of storage.
My question is mainly in regards to Class. I know most people recommend Class 10 for everything, but I read something recently that was suggesting that Class 10 is best only for sequential file reads, and that if you wanted better Random Access time you'd want a lower Class card.
What Class works best for running ICS and apps from the SD card in general?

I have a class 10 Lexar 32 GB myself, got it on Amazon during a sale. I run DK's BCM CM9. Everything is running nice and smooth for me.
After reading many threads I believe that Class 6 might be the sweet spot. Also be careful which brand. Shortlist a few cards and research them. Sandisk are probably one of the best. Personally I'm a fan of Kingston. There's also a good Amazon budget class 10 32GB that is said to work very well.
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Thanks, I checked out some benchmarks and the Lexar 32gb does seem to score consistently high on nearly everything (never top, but near the top more often than anything else). If I can't get some more definite answers it's likely what I'll go with if I can find it at a good price.

Brand name is important, but some have to watch price. I had an A-Data class 6 that did fairly well, but not always 6mb. I now have an Amazon Basic 16gb/class 10. No name, but good reviews and is working fine. Have gotten up to 13mb on occassion. Good price.
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Found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15269669#post15269669
The info and benchmarks there appear to be saying that the Sandisk 32gb Class 4 is the best for running apps off the SD card, as it has the highest random access time. Class 10 is better for people doing larger file transfers. That said, the feedback I've seen seems to indicate that in reality there isn't that huge of a difference. I think I'll end up going with the Sandisk Class 4; if there is lag I would prefer it to be during large transfers than day-to-day operation.

I use Samsung 32gb class 10 and it works perfect
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