Hello everyone,
I was just curious how all these gingerbread ROMs for the Captivate are being released, and Cyanogen 2.3 for the Capitivate, having been worked on for months, is still only in pre-beta. I am not trying to be impatient, I know the devs are working hard to get cyanogen out ASAP, I was just curious why this was.
Thank you.
rcllcr said:
Hello everyone,
I was just curious how all these gingerbread ROMs for the Captivate are being released, and Cyanogen 2.3 for the Capitivate, having been worked on for months, is still only in pre-beta. I am not trying to be impatient, I know the devs are working hard to get cyanogen out ASAP, I was just curious why this was.
Thank you.
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simply put CM7 is being written and developed from "scratch" and the jvb jvh roms are ported.
Not to mention that the CM7 for captivate is running 2.3.4 so technically "we're" behind CM7
betadan said:
Not to mention that the CM7 for captivate is running 2.3.4 so technically "we're" behind CM7
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Not for long Most of the Devs are already working on JVH
AOSP is the way to go in the long run as more Samsung drivers get ported over. 2.4.x will probably never be ported to the Galaxy S phones by Samsung, but unless there are major kernel changes, upgrading CyanogenMod to 2.4 will happen relatively quickly.
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AOSP is the way to go in the long run as more Samsung drivers get ported over. 2.4.x will probably never be ported to the Galaxy S phones by Samsung, but unless there are major kernel changes, upgrading CyanogenMod to 2.4 will happen relatively quickly.
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I see, so once it is caught up with the other cyanogen supported phones, it will be on the same update cycle, and therefore be more sustainable when it comes to new releases of android?
Frankly cm7 is actually being developed, where as the other ginger bread releases are being cooked/tweaked. Samsung did 80% of the work then xcal kicked in the next 15%.
So to answer your question, the reason it is "behind" is because they are not using a pre optimized build, and they are developing from the ground up.
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Hi bought my milestone this week and wanted to know about 2.2 update wen it is coming out i checked the phone spec on gsm arena and it said upgradable to 2.2 ? Thanks
delayed again..
suppose to be early Q1 2011 now it Q1 2011.
originally it was Sep 2010.
so, root & install gingerbread from Milestone Development section.
alijs said:
delayed again..
suppose to be early Q1 2011 now it Q1 2011.
originally it was Sep 2010.
so, root & install gingerbread from Milestone Development section.
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thats the way to go instead of waiting on motorola's lazy ass
byaco said:
thats the way to go instead of waiting on motorola's lazy ass
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Problem is thanks to locked bootloader we still have to rely on them for a kernel
Hopefully they'll provide us with a good Froyo kernel with the official release, but we'll never get a true Gingerbread kernel
chambo622 said:
Problem is thanks to locked bootloader we still have to rely on them for a kernel
Hopefully they'll provide us with a good Froyo kernel with the official release, but we'll never get a true Gingerbread kernel
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It doesnt matter anyways. I'm running gingerbread for several days now and it runs flawless. The speed is amazing and the improvement compared to 2.2 is noticeable. You wont be needing a 2.3 kernel. I think the milestone can stay with this. Installing an AOSP Gingerbread + some memory tweaks in open recovery juices the most from this phone. Flash works perfectly! Can it get better than this?
I believe when the minor bugs(mostly unnoticeable) in Gingerbread will be fixed everything is going to be great.
So who cares about motorola anyways?!
may someone kindly explain how is this possible to "run" gingerbread on froyo kernel (as same as it was with froyo running on eclair kernel)?
What exactly do we get by running new OS without new kernel?
What will be better if we would have gingerbread kernel for the gingebread roms?
It would be nice to know why is this, not just how it manifests.
With the froyo leak, a new kernel was released, so there are a lot of ROMs that can replicate froyo performance for real now... and please correct me if i'm wrong but gingerbread is based on the froyo kernel right? so thats why we've already got froyo as well as GB roms for milestone...
if we are lucky end of February, early March official release is to be expected
Yeah froyo will be one your er.. our phone in two weeks.
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gingerbread is based on the froyo kernel right?
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no, there is some difference in version number
btw people writing things like
"in two weeks"
"at the end of the march"
are wild guesses, right? or do you have any background info you can share with us?
MuF123 said:
no, there is some difference in version number
btw people writing things like
"in two weeks"
"at the end of the march"
are wild guesses, right? or do you have any background info you can share with us?
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Official statements are still in the form of Q1 2011...the rest is guessing. I suggest you root your phone and learn how to flash ROMs. Froyo (2.2) is the end of the line for our phone from Mot...but the community already has 2.3 working.
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Caz666 said:
Official statements are still in the form of Q1 2011...the rest is guessing. I suggest you root your phone and learn how to flash ROMs. Froyo (2.2) is the end of the line for our phone from Mot...but the community already has 2.3 working.
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I've already had tried almost every rom available for milestone, I just hope that the official froyo release will bring the devs some better ground to build their roms on, isn't that right? Won't be the official froyo release any better?
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I've already had tried almost every rom available for milestone, I just hope that the official froyo release will bring the devs some better ground to build their roms on, isn't that right? Won't be the official froyo release any better?
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You are probably right to a certain extent...the kernel and motor drivers are not release/final. But for all we know, the latest leak is final.
What problems remain for you?
The latest android leak has excellent battery life and performance in CM7 is through the roof...
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I had a look through the Android development section and couldn't really find anything above 2.2. My GF has a captivate and she's finally willing to do away with the carrier installed stuff.
And IF there are no 2.3 ROMs (which really doesn't make any sense because I've been running 2.3 on my DZ since the start of January), what are some of the better 2.2 ones?
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I had a look through the Android development section and couldn't really find anything above 2.2. My GF has a captivate and she's finally willing to do away with the carrier installed stuff.
And IF there are no 2.3 ROMs (which really doesn't make any sense because I've been running 2.3 on my DZ since the start of January), what are some of the better 2.2 ones?
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There are none yet, look at Supernova, Phoenix or Firefly ROM's there are pretty good.
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There are none yet, look at Supernova, Phoenix or Firefly ROM's there are pretty good.
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Don't Forget Serendipity, great support ,frequent updates
2.3 ROMs aren't out yet.
But there are some really nice 2.2.1 ROMs, di11igaf's rom being one of them
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I had a look through the Android development section and couldn't really find anything above 2.2. My GF has a captivate and she's finally willing to do away with the carrier installed stuff.
And IF there are no 2.3 ROMs (which really doesn't make any sense because I've been running 2.3 on my DZ since the start of January), what are some of the better 2.2 ones?
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Serendipity is the best one I've found, Mike has a great eye for design, and he and Chance have great ideas on functionality. They pay close attention to detail and update the ROM frequently with easily flashed .zips in recovery (no wiping involved unless it's a major update). It's built on 2.2.1.
diablo009 said:
2.3 ROMs aren't out yet.
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Um... I've been using Cyanogenmod 7 for about a month now.
Moosehunter said:
Um... I've been using Cyanogenmod 7 for about a month now.
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Care to enlighten the masses on this? Cyanogen's been trolling (IMO) on his wiki:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S:_Flashing_CyanogenMod
"NOTE: As of right now CyanogenMod is not available for the Samsung Galaxy S family. Please check the wiki or the Samsung Galaxy S sub-forum for updates."
But then again, I suppose if you have a large amount of expertise and win in your arsenal, you could fit all of the witchcraft to the Captivate, unless I'm a complete noob and Cyanogen got a ROM hidden away that I'm not aware of.
Serindipity is one that I've been looking into. I have her phone ready to rock and roll, rooted + CWM. Just need to decide on a ROM
I find it strange that the Galaxy S lineup still doesn't have a publicly available 2.3 ROM... considering the first device to ship with 2.3 was the Nexus S. IIRC it has a near identical hardware set as the Fascinate, Captivate, Vibrant, I9000 etc.
LOVE Pargaon RC6....Great ROM! Stable, fast, and great GPS! It is 2.2.1. No 'working' 2.3 roms out as of yet!
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Care to enlighten the masses on this? Cyanogen's been trolling (IMO) on his wiki:
"NOTE: As of right now CyanogenMod is not available for the Samsung Galaxy S family. Please check the wiki or the Samsung Galaxy S sub-forum for updates."
But then again, I suppose if you have a large amount of expertise and win in your arsenal, you could fit all of the witchcraft to the Captivate, unless I'm a complete noob and Cyanogen got a ROM hidden away that I'm not aware of.
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I think he is using the beta rom. if you check the sub forum they have the experimental rom there including cm7 for captivate
Verfassergeist said:
Care to enlighten the masses on this? Cyanogen's been trolling (IMO) on his wiki:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S:_Flashing_CyanogenMod
"NOTE: As of right now CyanogenMod is not available for the Samsung Galaxy S family. Please check the wiki or the Samsung Galaxy S sub-forum for updates."
But then again, I suppose if you have a large amount of expertise and win in your arsenal, you could fit all of the witchcraft to the Captivate, unless I'm a complete noob and Cyanogen got a ROM hidden away that I'm not aware of.
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Here's a captivate update zip. Follow the instructions on the CM forums for the initial install using the GT-I9000 rom, and then follow the update instructions using this captivate package.
http://www.mediafire.com/?xpk8pzcv27cj67c
Dinglehoofis said:
I had a look through the Android development section and couldn't really find anything above 2.2. My GF has a captivate and she's finally willing to do away with the carrier installed stuff.
And IF there are no 2.3 ROMs (which really doesn't make any sense because I've been running 2.3 on my DZ since the start of January), what are some of the better 2.2 ones?
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As for it not making sense, The whole reason you have been able to run it is that HTC likes putting the source code up as to where we are still trying to get it from Samsung. Heck 2.2 official just dropped to day. lol
You will get 10 different answers as to some good roms. Just have a read in the threads and chose one that seems good to you.
will samsung galaxy s get more updates or this update 2.3.3 XXJVK is last update ?
in my opinion after using JVK, it still got bugs (beta) and there will be more updates,
2.3.3 is
1st not officially released
2nd. other than Europe its not even leaked.
so logically yes I am expecting more updates...rest Time will tell
Samsung have the answer nobody else .
jje
3.0 honeycomb is for TABs. No way SGS's gonna get it. JVK is raw beta, sweeter versions are coming I guess.
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will samsung galaxy s get more updates or this update 2.3.3 XXJVK is last update ?
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2.3.3 will be the last update, jvk is not official so there will be a series of ROMs available via Kies.
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rdy2go said:
2.3.3 will be the last update, jvk is not official so there will be a series of ROMs available via Kies.
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You seem quite sure of yourself there.. How do you know for sure?
Auzy said:
You seem quite sure of yourself there.. How do you know for sure?
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Because ->
rdy2go said:
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i think sgs will get one more update
Auzy said:
You seem quite sure of yourself there.. How do you know for sure?
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Because his Desire wont be getting any updates in the future
On a more serious line, if the next updates will work on SGS the update will be taken into consideration... but as we know it SGS 2 is being released in the near future they will stop support for the sgs and focus on updating the sgs 2 to make people buy it
Sadly marketing and sales are everything for these companyes....
Why do some people think JVK was beta because of a few bugs? there have been far worse official kies releases in the past. It may well have been a beta just don't expect perfection if we do get another release, you'll only be disappointed. Personally JVK has been one of their better firmwares, I would gladly have this via kies. The only thing stopping me from using it is the lack of source and voodoo, anyway, I do believe we will have more updates, well I hope so anyway.
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i think its weird that Samsung are still releasing more froyo versions so close to an official GB version release. With that in mind, hopefully there will be many GB versions from different regions around the world, just like froyo.... Wont hold my breath.
An additional question - Will the next android release (2.4?) be able to be adapted to SGS with no Samsung support e.g. CM8?
I think that we will continue to see more froyo builds for awhile, as not all carriers and regions will be upgrading to Gingerbread, or at least not at the same time.
Parallel to that I imagine over the next couple months the official Gingerbread firmwares will start, so like Froyo, we will have many different 2.3.3 builds from different regions to argue about and play with, likely appearing throughout 2011.
The next announced build is Ice Cream Sundae, that is 2.4. As this is said to be an extension of Gingerbread, I imagine it will work on the SGS, but as by the time it is released the SGS II will be out for several months, I wouldbe VERY surprised if we see an official Samsung SGS firmware based on 2.4 However, I am sure we will see some SGS ROMs based on 2.4 here in XDA, so do not fear...we haven't hit a dead end with this phone yet.
As for Honeycomb (3.0), it is optimized and designed from the ground up for tablets and larger screens so even if it could be ported to the SGS, I don't see why you would want it to be.
Well, after looking at the code for JVK olny for a few hours, Supercurio said on twitter that it has a major security flaw and that it probably is an unfinished version of the firmware that will be released officialy. Based on his track record I trust Supercurio.
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Why do some people think JVK was beta because of a few bugs? there have been far worse official kies releases in the past. It may well have been a beta just don't expect perfection if we do get another release, you'll only be disappointed. Personally JVK has been one of their better firmwares, I would gladly have this via kies. The only thing stopping me from using it is the lack of source and voodoo, anyway, I do believe we will have more updates, well I hope so anyway.
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Another Gingerbread firmwares - yes. Official Ice Cream firmwares - most probably no.
Truth is, nobody on here knows anything about future updates, the most anybody can do is speculate. If you had believed what people on here thought about the update probability for the Galaxy S upon its release, you wouldn't have believed we would even have froyo by now.
Wait and see.
As promised GB will be the last update to i9000
Hello Every one,
Gingerbread will be the final update for I9000,
The Version 2.3.X will be release to all the I9000 model.
There will be regular update for the Gingerbread only (Bug fix & Perfomance update).
Version 3.0 will be not given to i9000, But we can opt to Custom ROMS for V 3.0.
Samsung will constrate more on S2. Samsung Promised only Gingerbread for i9000. No more future OS update. (Gingerbread updates only)
I have heard that Icecream will be a merge of gingerbread and honeycomb and will be version 4.0
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I think that we will continue to see more froyo builds for awhile, as not all carriers and regions will be upgrading to Gingerbread, or at least not at the same time.
Parallel to that I imagine over the next couple months the official Gingerbread firmwares will start, so like Froyo, we will have many different 2.3.3 builds from different regions to argue about and play with, likely appearing throughout 2011.
The next announced build is Ice Cream Sundae, that is 2.4. As this is said to be an extension of Gingerbread, I imagine it will work on the SGS, but as by the time it is released the SGS II will be out for several months, I wouldbe VERY surprised if we see an official Samsung SGS firmware based on 2.4 However, I am sure we will see some SGS ROMs based on 2.4 here in XDA, so do not fear...we haven't hit a dead end with this phone yet.
As for Honeycomb (3.0), it is optimized and designed from the ground up for tablets and larger screens so even if it could be ported to the SGS, I don't see why you would want it to be.
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Samsung will have an easier time rolling our updates because they produce the nexus S which is essentially a glorified stock GT-i9000. It'd be bad PR to stop producing updates. Samsung knows that if they want people to buy their new phones they have to support their previous ones.
My update will be to the phones after the Tegra 2 generation. And if my Galaxy S is stuck at 2.3.3 in Q4 2011 my next phone won't be a Samsung.
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Hello Every one,
Gingerbread will be the final update for I9000,
The Version 2.3.X will be release to all the I9000 model.
There will be regular update for the Gingerbread only (Bug fix & Perfomance update).
Version 3.0 will be not given to i9000, But we can opt to Custom ROMS for V 3.0.
Samsung will constrate more on S2. Samsung Promised only Gingerbread for i9000. No more future OS update. (Gingerbread updates only)
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How about some proof? Did the Samsung PR team come to your house and tell you there will be nothing past 2.3.3? If they didn't then shut your mouth and form your post in the form of an opinion. Not as a statement.
I like os version more than costum rom
Hello there, I'm just wondering how long does it take to make a custom ROM? Say for example you make a ROM from the captivate GB sources vs the ICS sources that were just released? I don't mean to be one of those annoying people asking about when an ICS ROM is coming, I'm just curious as to the process of it all :-D
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Using ICS current sources can take a while - 2 or 3 months to build a proper ROM that will work with the Captivate since the ICS source is not geared toward it. The kernal build is mostly likely going to be the biggest pain.
Using 2.2 or 2.3 Captivate sources build a proper Rom can take minutes to a few days depend on what you want out of your rom.
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Hello there, I'm just wondering how long does it take to make a custom ROM? Say for example you make a ROM from the captivate GB sources vs the ICS sources that were just released? I don't mean to be one of those annoying people asking about when an ICS ROM is coming, I'm just curious as to the process of it all :-D
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Be patient my friend. The CM team will have a CM9 nightly before you know it.
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Is there any chance that cyanogenmod of coming for the SXL? I recently upgraded my device from my old Nexus s and am missing the features of CM7
You would be better sending a PM to Cyanogen and see if he has any plans for it, other then that its waiting on someone elses good grace to Port it but it might not quite be the same as it was (less Cyanogen releases it then itll be grand!)
Having spoke to Capychimp he says that a port of CM7, MIUI or even ICS will need a custom kernel. So until we can get someone working on that its not going to happen
isnt there some custom kernals from core droid and such?
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isnt there some custom kernals from core droid and such?
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Yeah there is a custom kernel for BinDroid, but that is like a heavily tweaked version of stock whereas CM7 is AOSP and therefore would need a completely different kernel, as I understand it... correct me if I'm wrong
ahhhh thanks for that
Do you have any idea on how long it would take for someone to make a new kernal?
For someone who knew what they were doing it probably wouldn't take that long, but most developers on here are supporting multiple devices and probably don't have the time to try it at the minute...