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Hello,
Sorry for this very basic question, I am just wondering what is the difference between a Kernel and a ROM? I see in the development forum there are lots of new Kernels, what are these actually optimizing except underclocking or undervolting (understand that terminology). I am also wondering if the Kernels are specific for the original Nexus One 2.1 Android or can you install for example Modaco or Cyan ROM and then a different random Kernel?
Thanks!
To my understanding, a kernel is what directly interacts with the hardware. Every OS has this, but it's more customizable on our phones since it's based on Linux. The Rom contains the OS itself, and the software and file structure therein. The kernel even can tell the OS how fast the processor goes and how much juice to use from the battery.
Hope that makes sense, as I'm no expert. You can mix and match the two as far as I know. I've mixed them, anyway.
Halorin,
Based on what you said, with my stock vibrant ROM 2.1 JI6 update, it is possible to change the kernel or install another kernel (like the CM kernel)?
tomasitoc said:
Halorin,
Based on what you said, with my stock vibrant ROM 2.1 JI6 update, it is possible to change the kernel or install another kernel (like the CM kernel)?
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That is really a question better suited to the rom 's development thread, but in general yes you can flash a different kernel. Some kernel/rom combinations work better than others, but you really wont know until you try. Get comfortable with nandroid backups and start trying out different kernel combinations until you find one you like.
Usually most custom roms will include a kernel but they usually have tweaks like coding for 720p, oc, and audio tweaks and what not. Alsways do a nandroid back up and start exploring. When flashing kernels always wipe, I think their are exceptions but its best to wipe just in case. Browse XDA, download a kernel from your phone browser, rom manager install from SD, should be in your downloads folder, backup and wipe, repeat until your phone does what you want.
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which is the better to install???
Thank you your post..
but i can't understand clearly.
so.,
which one is better to install NewRom / Kernal. for android phones.
Neither one is better it just depends on what you want to do.
If you want to totally change over your phone to look and function differently then you need to flash a ROM if you just want to keep the same look but want to enable lets say overclocking then flash an overclocked kernel. If it has to do with the hardware mostly then it's probably something that the kernel can change. Although like mentioned above if you flash a ROM most of the time it will come with a custom kernel.
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Neither one is better it just depends on what you want to do.
If you want to totally change over your phone to look and function differently then you need to flash a ROM if you just want to keep the same look but want to enable lets say overclocking then flash an overclocked kernel. If it has to do with the hardware mostly then it's probably something that the kernel can change. Although like mentioned above if you flash a ROM most of the time it will come with a custom kernel.
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What he said.
ROMs and kernels are two separate things that have two separate functions. Neither is better than the other, but they do complement each other.
Seshu9899 said:
Thank you your post..
but i can't understand clearly.
so.,
which one is better to install NewRom / Kernal. for android phones.
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I know both Dude Random21 and codesplice have gone into this, but to try and give a bit more info...
The kernel is kinda like the nervous system of the body. It directly interacts with the hardware (which is how it is able to adjust CPU speed) and it is what allows the ROM to function.
The ROM is the rest of the body. Every other aspect of the phone. In fact, most ROMs include custom kernels. Various ROMs give you various features/enhancements/bugfixes. You will probably notice the biggest change in your phone if you load a custom ROM. Most people load the custom kernels to help with battery life as a lot of them allow you to lower the phones minimum processing speed from 245Mhz to 128MHz.
The ROM can change so many different aspects of how the phone works. There is CyanogenMod which is based off of stock Android with a lot of tweaks, bugfixes, and new features added. There is also MIUI, which is similar to the iOS style (not the same, but much closer than stock Android), and then there are a ton others out there.
Then which Rom is best for my samsung galaxy s???
so i am using froyo.jpjpg on my galaxys.
i want to flash new Rom with upgaraded to gingerbread.
can i flash only rom../ kernal also.
which is best Rom for samsung galaxys.
cynogenmod, miui, .?????
battery drain is very fast now ian running rom/kernal.
Start by going to the forum for your phone.
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thank you...
i Start the post from samsung galaxy s..
Seshu9899 said:
thank you...
i Start the post from samsung galaxy s..
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Nandbackup + Rom & Kernel
One question: when I do a backup with CWM, it is the Nandroid backup you talk about, correct...? Same thing? So, if I do a backup with CWM, it's a backup only of the ROM, or also the stock Kernel...? Imagine that I do a Rom (GingerDX for example), and flash with a custom Kernel.... If things go bad and I do a restore from my backup (stock) CWM, what do I restore? Rom, or Rom + (stock) Kernel...?
Yes, a backup that is done in ClockworkMod (or Amon_RA) is considered a nandroid backup. And this takes a complete snapshot of your system. Your ROM, your kernel, your apps and your data are all inlcuded. The only thing that isn't included is the fat partition on your sdcard. So if things go bad and you restore your nandroid backup, it will go back to however it was when you made the backup.
thanks a lot. reading this thread clear up a lot of things
Hi!
I am currently running Lite'ning ROM 6.1. XXKH3 Kernel version 2.6.35.11-ninphetamine-2.0.5+ [email protected] #20 on SGSII. Phew.
I've tried a lot of ROMS including MIUI, villain, galmetMIUI ICS version . I like Lite'ning ROM because it gave me the least (virtually Nil) problems (FCs/ reboots) and has almost all the features I need (TV-out that's missing from MIUI, good camera with panorama mode, Recording mode in phone). However I miss the CIFS feature. Is it because the kernel does not support it? Can I get CIFS support if I flash another kernel? Any suggesstions on which Kernel should I flash? I realise that this ROM is pretty old now so Can I get additional features with a newer Kernel.
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What he said.
ROMs and kernels are two separate things that have two separate functions. Neither is better than the other, but they do complement each other.
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That made everything clear. Thanks man. I'm new to the xda but already flashed a new rom that overclocked my CPU to 1.5 and my HTC Sensation 4G Is running so much better right now. However I wish i knew how to thank people... because i see the thanks meter but cannot find where to thank from.
radoslav.trahanov said:
That made everything clear. Thanks man. I'm new to the xda but already flashed a new rom that overclocked my CPU to 1.5 and my HTC Sensation 4G Is running so much better right now. However I wish i knew how to thank people... because i see the thanks meter but cannot find where to thank from.
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The rom didn't overclock your phone. The kernel did. READ. You came to the MT4GS forum starting up a storm for people not giving you a direct link to the regular MT4G. How is it you cant find the freakin' "thanks" button? THERE'S A FREAKIN' THANKS BUTTON IN EVERY FREAKIN' POST. OPEN YOUR FREAKIN' EYES.
Sori m jst new here..jst b0ught my f0ne 2 m0nths ago. Flashed r0m: gingercrime ITA, flashed kernel: ver 2.6.35.14 v6. And iv overclock my fone 245-710Mhz, smartass. fone: lg optimus one, running on gingerbread 2.3.3
Many thanx xda developers..!!
So what I have done to date on my Captivate.
1. Updated to latest Froyo 2.2 using Kies
2. Loaded .NET and etc
3. Rooted using SuperOneClick. Thanks ShortFuse
4. Titanium Backup. Thanks Joel
5. Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine. Thanks Android Central
6. Captivate Toolbox. Thanks Bay_wolf
7. Installed wireless tether 2.0.7 Thanks harald.mue, ulfada
8 Pimped my Captivate- Thanks systoxity, nbs11, and other XDA developers.
Now I'm to the point to ROM or not to ROM. Everything is working great. Further I am hesitant about the possibility of bricking my phone. Should I go for it? What ROM to use? What program to get ROM on phone?
Many thanks in advance.
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So what I have done to date on my Captivate.
1. Updated to latest Froyo 2.2 using Kies
2. Loaded .NET and etc
3. Rooted using SuperOneClick. Thanks ShortFuse
4. Titanium Backup. Thanks Joel
5. Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine. Thanks Android Central
6. Captivate Toolbox. Thanks Bay_wolf
7. Installed wireless tether 2.0.7 Thanks harald.mue, ulfada
8 Pimped my Captivate- Thanks systoxity, nbs11, and other XDA developers.
Now I'm to the point to ROM or not to ROM. Everything is working great. Further I am hesitant about the possibility of bricking my phone. Should I go for it? What ROM to use? What program to get ROM on phone?
Many thanks in advance.
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This isn't development...
majsig said:
So what I have done to date on my Captivate.
1. Updated to latest Froyo 2.2 using Kies
2. Loaded .NET and etc
3. Rooted using SuperOneClick. Thanks ShortFuse
4. Titanium Backup. Thanks Joel
5. Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine. Thanks Android Central
6. Captivate Toolbox. Thanks Bay_wolf
7. Installed wireless tether 2.0.7 Thanks harald.mue, ulfada
8 Pimped my Captivate- Thanks systoxity, nbs11, and other XDA developers.
Now I'm to the point to ROM or not to ROM. Everything is working great. Further I am hesitant about the possibility of bricking my phone. Should I go for it? What ROM to use? What program to get ROM on phone?
Many thanks in advance.
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It really just comes down to if you like your Captivate the way it is. If you aren't happy with the performance you get from it then try a few out. I recommend Cognition for a stock like experience and Serendipity for the most stable and kept up to date ROM.
This really doesn't belong in this section. It should have been posted in the General or the Q&A sections.
Well what you have done in all those steps, other then Titbu is actually done in one step by flashing a rom.
If you pay attention to the steps your risk of bricking is minimal. Just read all the rom threads and see which one floats your boat. Cognition 4.1.1 is a very stable rom. Firefly is another stable rom. You might like Fusion also as that and Cog are based off the curren kcb1 release from att.
You will need odin 1 click to return to stock. You will have to download Rom Manager and install Clockwork recovery. That puts an update.zip on your phone that boots you into recovery mode so you can flash a rom. Once you put clockwork on the phone its best to copy the udate.zip to your comp or to an ext sd card so you can just move it over after you flash back to stock when you updated roms.
First and foremost is read as much as you can before doing anything.
Thanks for the brief input. It was not my intent to post in the wrong forum. I'll repost in the Q/A.
Pm a mod and have them move it instead of double posting.
sparker366 said:
Well what you have done in all those steps, other then Tibu is actually done in one step by flashing a rom.
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The answer is Yes.
like they said above you could have done by flashing but you would still need root and rom manager first which if you already have 2.2 means flashing a kernel via .tar which used to mean odin but now we have neldars app. so it's not really one step, even on 2.1 noone is doing signed .zips that run in 2e recovery so you still need to root and install cwmrecovery.
basically roms have some nice features like getting rid of tw mms which many versions of have bugs and timing errors that can cause double messages or incorrect order of messages or in some cases messages to the wrong contact, if you dont have that issue now flashing a rom with tw mms may cause it or it may not. aosp mms is safer but only works with samsung lockscreens on some roms, watch for that if you like the puzzle piece functionality. but there may be many enhancements like removed bloat(unless you like the samsung bloatware) minfree tweeks, mobile ap which may be more stable than using an app for wifi hotspot, plus random shortcuts ect.ect. many of these things you can do but some are features of the base rom and require flashing, 2.2.1 baseroms are smoth as butter, especially the ones from china and 2.2.1 kernels will make the phone benchmark better.
then there is kernels which you can flash now without the rom, kernels can make the phone feel smoother and the screen brighter and better colors and add volume to the headphone amp which i dont recommend because mine clips at anything above the stock setting. also there is undervolt and overclock ect... i would recomend maybe a speedmod kernel or glitterballs work, some galaxy s phones can not exceed 1.2 ghz i dont know of anyone that cant overclock but for me 1.2 is 100% stable 1.28 is 90% stable 1.3 is about the same maybe a bit more stable and 1.4 is about 30% stable i can do it but need to be really carefull about what's running and for how long, not really usable. kernels other than glitterballs mat cause your phone to die while charging but i here the sucker punch kernel has a lower occurrence of that than past kernels. speed mod is not overclock and is safe and makes a big difference!
then there is modem.bins and gps. the two are related. if you have good gps now flashing a modem.bin can make that go away and vise/versa there isn't any rules as to what works/doesn't because every phone is different. but other than gps you need to match a captivate rom to a captivate modem. this is because on north american captivate roms changing the modem and kernel to a non captivate version will disable bluetooth calling.
then there is hsupa, it's a bit over rated in a good service area, my isp gives me about the upload bandwith at home that i get without hsupa, my home internet is fine for browsing but im not hosting any files. on the otherhand it may help in lower service areas somewhat or if you tether multiple devices. to enable huspa you need a non north american captivate rom and kernel and modem.bin, you need to decide if that is important and at a slight risk of losing some gps performance as it is so inconsistent it is hard to tell what may or may not work for you.
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I love di11igaffs roms and espyel roms they are better than stock froyo hands down id flash u wont be sorry
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Hi chaps,
I just managed to brick my TG01 trying to get WP7 on it (can't believe it, have flashed endless WM ROM's and had Android running on as well without issue :-( )... so I have done a bit of a knee jerk and quickly bought an LG Optimus 2X to play with until I can figure out how/if I can fix the TG01.
Obviously I've read reviews and seen feedback, and hoping I don't get a dodgy one.. but I've bought my brand new sim free for £199 from Amazon so should give me some protection if it's broken.
Any tips other than doing the 2.3 update ASAP? (until ICS official comes out)
Root it and flash a custom rom!
Stock rom sucks really, really! It's slow, buggy etc. Also, don't download the OTA update, because froyo is easier to root with Superoneclick.
Sent from my LG-Stone from the Prehistory....
Naaaahh... Just kidding!
CM7.2 Temasek KANG P204-35
Vadonkas KANG kernel (13-01-2012) 32MB Ramhack Powersave
Root it and install a security app like prey or cerberus, asap.
SP1996AC said:
Root it and flash a custom rom!
Stock rom sucks really, really! It's slow, buggy etc. Also, don't download the OTA update, because froyo is easier to root with Superoneclick.
Sent from my LG-Stone from the Prehistory....
Naaaahh... Just kidding!
CM7.2 Temasek KANG P204-35
Vadonkas KANG kernel (13-01-2012) 32MB Ramhack Powersave
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Which ROM is considered the one where everything actually works on it? (Obviously people have preferences, but I'm new to this section).
Will rooting and flashing a custom rom stop me from upgrading to the official ICS later?
Where do I get the security programs/apps from? Are they on the market?
Scougar said:
Which ROM is considered the one where everything actually works on it? (Obviously people have preferences, but I'm new to this section).
Will rooting and flashing a custom rom stop me from upgrading to the official ICS later?
Where do I get the security programs/apps from? Are they on the market?
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I think temasek's CyanogenMod KANG is the best rom available, especially combined with Vadonkas KANG kernel.
Temasek's KANGs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1421425
Vadonkas KANG kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427646
If you root it and flash CM on it, you'll obviously won't be able to get the official ICS update. But the truth is, LG is so 'great' that you likely have to wait until next year to get the next OTA. So the best thing is to root. Also, in a few weeks hopefully, CM9 will come out which is based on ICS.
I believe that you can find those apps in the market.
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CM7.2 Temasek KANG P204-35
Vadonkas KANG kernel (13-01-2012) 32MB Ramhack Powersave
A tip? Buy a Noreve Leather flip for it .. they rule
Aside from that: Can I just flash the newest temasek KANG (what does KANG stand for anyway?) and the newest KANG kernel you mentioned? Or do they have dependencies that could brick the P990? And what about the other business (rils and whatnot?).
And is it as simple as rooting it (I managed with Superoneclick with the latest OTA), installing rom manager, let rom manager install cwm (will that work? I also see temasek has a KANG CWM folder in this repository), boot into cwm, wipe everything and flash the temasek rom, and after than, repeat the same with a kernel zip?
The dependencies and sequences confuse me most. On the DHD I put ICS on, the ROM came with a working kernel. But in that Temsake KANG thread it says:
"Flashable zip for Stock CM Kernel with Voodoo Sound - for p990 only (Optional)"
For a CM kernel? So do I need this installed first somehow? All very confusing for newbies to flashing like me...
voon said:
A tip? Buy a Noreve Leather flip for it .. they rule
Aside from that: Can I just flash the newest temasek KANG (what does KANG stand for anyway?) and the newest KANG kernel you mentioned? Or do they have dependencies that could brick the P990? And what about the other business (rils and whatnot?). I also hope they all got voodoo in. A P990 without voodoo is a crime.
And is it as simple as rooting it (I managed with Superoneclick with the latest OTA), installing rom manager, let rom manager install cwm, boot into cwm, wipe everything and flash the temasek rom, and after than, repeat the same with a kernel zip?
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The latest temasek KANG with Vadonkas KANG kernel won't brick your phone. Many people use this combination and no one has bricked their phone so far.
A great CM KANG is nothing else but a CM rom but then developed by developers outside Cyanogen Team. They use Cyanogens source code and improve or change it anyway they want. KANGs are also more stable than normal nightlies.
So Vadonkas KANG kernel is just a kernel he improved/changed using source codes from others.
Note that temasek's kang standard comes with 218 RIL. You can change this manually with the GetRIL app. Basically you don't have to change the bb. Also, Vadonkas KANG kernel comes with voodoo sound so don't worry about that.
Then flashing:
1. Reboot into recovery
2. Backup rom
3. Wipe everything.
4. Flash rom.
5. Flash kernel
6. Flash Google Apps
7. Done, reboot.
If you come from cm, then you don't need to wipe everything, just cache and dalvik. Also, if you want to update your kang rom (temasek), you can just flash it over your previous rom.
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CM7.2 Temasek KANG P204-35
Vadonkas KANG kernel (13-01-2012) 32MB Ramhack Powersave
Thanks .. again "Boot into recovery" means I have to install CWM with rom manager first? I never installed CWM, so I'm not quite sure about that (on the DHD, the rooting ace hack thing did install that asfaik). And which gapps zip do I have to flash?
And maybe something about the RIL: I have no idea what it is. All I realize is, that it somehow has to match the kernel? or the hardware version? Or your area? I'm a bit confused on that as well, sorry.
EDIT: Ok ... Radio Interface Layer. A driver to the hardware's radio hardware? But that's static, so why all the various versions?
voon said:
Thanks .. again "Boot into recovery" means I have to install CWM with rom manager first? I never installed CWM, so I'm not quite sure about that (on the DHD, the rooting ace hack thing did install that asfaik). And which gapps zip do I have to flash?
And maybe something about the RIL: I have no idea what it is. All I realize is, that it somehow has to match the kernel? or the hardware version? Or your area? I'm a bit confused on that as well, sorry.
EDIT: Ok ... Radio Interface Layer. A driver to the hardware's radio hardware? But that's static, so why all the various versions?
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Haha no problem.
Yes you need to install CWM with rom manager first, preferably the most recent one.
Just the latest Gapps, you'll find them in the CyanogenMod wiki.
RIL has to match with your baseband so you'll have the best possible signal and minimal battery loss. The reason for al those versions is because of the fact that most countries have its own RIL. The app wil notify you if your bb and ril match. If not, flash another, if so, keep it that way .
Note: when you're coming from stock rom you need to wipe everything so also make titanium backup, just in case...
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CM7.2 Temasek KANG P204-35
Vadonkas KANG kernel (13-01-2012) 32MB Ramhack Powersave
Hm ... okay ... CWM is on it, done from Rom Manager, selected the LGE Optimus "x.... booted into it ... but it says it can not mount my SDCARD (large 32 GB thing, which works inside Android .. but oiccasionally seems to behave a bit difficult.).
EDIT: Trying another SDCARD now ... an old Samsung 8 GB. Hm nope ... it can't mount that 8 GB card, either They're just ordinary FAT32 formatted cards. Guess I'm stuck for now. Could there be something wrong with the CWM Version? Rom Manager did ask about the model, but I selected the correct one I assume.
EDIT2: It seems ROM Manager is not really flashing cwm? And that booting into it from Rom Manager causes the SDCARD moutn isssue due to soemthing called "redirector"? I tried getting into CWM by all kinds of fingerpress combinations I read about ... but nothing seems to work so far.
EDIT3: Seems working now ... Power + Volume Down ... like HBoot. It also sees the sdcard now, if you directly boot into it ... let's continue this journey....
EDIT4: Arrived. Tamasek ROM + Lower Power Kernel + Gapps. Now to find out what's better than stock ROM
For those not comfortable with flashing custom rom, flashing a custom kernel may be good enough. I am using Horsepower SR2 with stock rom, took away many useless apps with root uninstaller, it is so much more damn smooth then the original, more responsive too. Played Need For Speed those kind of games, totally no lag.
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For those not comfortable with flashing custom rom, flashing a custom kernel may be good enough. I am using Horsepower SR2 with stock rom, took away many useless apps with root uninstaller, it is so much more damn smooth then the original, more responsive too. Played Need For Speed those kind of games, totally no lag.
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I agree! I did the same thing and i must say its a best thing for me. Hp sr 2 and pp v8.
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Excellent... picking up some ideas already (like being able to just flash a new kernel for example ) Might do that as don't want to lose functionality.
Whatever I do I will use it at stock for a week or so, to check the phone is stable (I will probably update to latest software from LG first though to be honest).
I have also ordered a 3500mah extended battery and case cover. £4.99. Something tells me it's going to be cack, but thought i'd give it a go (I've read about the whole battery calibration thing and needing to be rooted etc, so I'll ask about that at a later time). I just was not going to pay something like £75 for a mugen 4500mah battery that was even bigger. I believe mugen could easily fit three battery in parallel (including circuitry) in a 'T' shape to give the phone a thinner profile with a bigger battery. If I was able to get a battery cover that was a little bigger and fit, I would give it a go (I've wired a fair few batteries up recently). But I digress..
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Whatever I do I will use it at stock for a week or so, to check the phone is stable (I will probably update to latest software from LG first though to be honest).
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That's probably the worst you can do to check if your phone is stable LG ROMs were known to boot themselves etc, although I'm not sure if this still is the case. I didn't lose any functionality with flashing and it runs smooth as a baby tush. There's even a kernel using less power etc ...
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That's probably the worst you can do to check if your phone is stable LG ROMs were known to boot themselves etc, although I'm not sure if this still is the case. I didn't lose any functionality with flashing and it runs smooth as a baby tush. There's even a kernel using less power etc ...
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lol @ the "worst thing you can do" comment
What I meant is.. see if the phone has any problems, and see how it runs in general. I doubt LG would replace a phone with an alternative ROM if it goes wrong.
Also, without a baseline I can't determine how good an alternative ROM is. Also, with alternative ROM's on the TG01, I lost things such as being able to send/receive MMS's for some bizarre reason, and I see people saying things like "this app doesn't run, but does on stock", "no 3G vid calling on non-stock ROM"... so it's not as clean cut as you make out. I'm no stranger to hacking things about to get them to work, I'm a Dev in my job
Appreciate the advice guys, thank you
vainqueur said:
For those not comfortable with flashing custom rom, flashing a custom kernel may be good enough. I am using Horsepower SR2 with stock rom, took away many useless apps with root uninstaller, it is so much more damn smooth then the original, more responsive too. Played Need For Speed those kind of games, totally no lag.
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can this kernel "Horsepower SR2" be used with LG unofficial 20o?
can u give a link?
SP1996AC said:
Root it and flash a custom rom!
Stock rom sucks really, really! It's slow, buggy etc. Also, don't download the OTA update, because froyo is easier to root with Superoneclick.
Sent from my LG-Stone from the Prehistory....
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CM7.2 Temasek KANG P204-35
Vadonkas KANG kernel (13-01-2012) 32MB Ramhack Powersave
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I he wants to try the gb it's really easy to root from gb as well...I had no problems.
iJonas said:
I he wants to try the gb it's really easy to root from gb as well...I had no problems.
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Yeah... I read it a few months ago that froyo was easier to root than gb, but I guess that they're both easy to root now
Well... it has arrived :-D Trying to decide whether to turn it on before attempting to fix my TG01, as the battery charger arrived today as well lol.
EDIT: By the way.. I have just plugged it in to do a long first charge. Is it ok to turn it on whilst it's charging and play with it? lol Also.. it's a "Made in Korea" version, not sure if that matters?
Update: Well, I've updated my phone with 2.3.4 from the official site. And so far, I'm really liking the phone Everything is super smooth, the screen is nice, and the battery life seems good so far. I only lost 5% battery last night over about 7 hours, and that's on the stock rom with the battery not calibrated on anything fancy being done, and 3g/data still on etc.
'So far' it seems like a solid phone Really don't like the way the back cover comes on an off though, that is a really poor design.
I Have Rooted my Note with Odin and are on kernel KK5.. Im thinking of install a new kernel and getting a custom rom for improve the speed, battery and hopefully no lag after reading different topics here, its pretty hard too choose? anyone know for sure whats the best out?
Look at them all, read the responses, then pick one. There is no such thing as "best".
Agreed!
Its what best suits your needs. CF-Root may be considered as the most stable and close to stock as possible with just Root.
That may be what you want to start with.
The best ones are: of your considering and best choice to fit your device
yes there is not a best rom (never ask about which is the best rom)
there are different roms
some uses some devices/cpu drivers/controllers/governors some not, some are lighter some are more heavy
some looks quite similar to stock and some others are completely different
some boost speed others boost battery usage
i think that for make a good choice 1st element is to see who made the rom: there are some devs who have been tweacking/writing roms for years on older devices and have a strong strong reputation
2nd element very important is to check the comments of the people who tried it on the threads: read 1st page of the post and then go to last page and read the 10/20 last replies
usually for noobs like you and me the best is to go for a well tested rom without 2 many problems
i wouldnt dare to install cyanogenmod 9 so far....
anyway if i were you i would try the rocket rom vers 20 and then upgrade to rocket rom 21
this rom has a long development and its quite reliable
being .21 version many bugs have been amended and the dev is very active and nice.
2 go for reliable rom as beginner is the most intelligent choice!
hope to have been helpful
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yes there is not a best rom (never ask about which is the best rom)
there are different roms
some uses some devices/cpu drivers/controllers/governors some not, some are lighter some are more heavy
some looks quite similar to stock and some others are completely different
some boost speed others boost battery usage
i think that for make a good choice 1st element is to see who made the rom: there are some devs who have been tweacking/writing roms for years on older devices and have a strong strong reputation
2nd element very important is to check the comments of the people who tried it on the threads: read 1st page of the post and then go to last page and read the 10/20 last replies
usually for noobs like you and me the best is to go for a well tested rom without 2 many problems
i wouldnt dare to install cyanogenmod 9 so far....
anyway if i were you i would try the rocket rom vers 20 and then upgrade to rocket rom 21
this rom has a long development and its quite reliable
being .21 version many bugs have been amended and the dev is very active and nice.
2 go for reliable rom as beginner is the most intelligent choice!
hope to have been helpful
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I recommend him to install cyanogenmod 9 for an adventurous/risky feeling !!! lol
Hi, my name is g4ndr1k and I'm a flash addict.
I've tried almost every ROM and now I am on DarkyROM. Hopefully it would be my last before ICS.
My other favorites are Cassie's, CheckROM, KingDroid and Romow.
For giving a precise answer (of course, only IMHO):
CheckRom v5 with either CF Root oder SpeedMod Kernel.
But, in general: use what suits your needs best. How? take a look at every ROM.
Honestly as of now the custom ROM's dont really stand out that much compared to the stock ones, on a day to day basis with a blind test no one can tell the difference.
I was looking for smoothness, stability and the minimum lag without changing a lot in UI, stock LA4 deodexed with fm 2.0 kernel was my best choice after trying several roms, I'm satisfied with what i have before the ICS comes out.
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Thanks for all the reply's
I been watching some youtube clips and i think im going with the: "CheckROM Revo NoteHD ROM" if not anyone has something bad too say about it it looks really nice!
Edit:// Rocket ROM FTW!!!
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lorekarf said:
anyway if i were you i would try the rocket rom vers 20 and then upgrade to rocket rom 21
this rom has a long development and its quite reliable
being .21 version many bugs have been amended and the dev is very active and nice.
2 go for reliable rom as beginner is the most intelligent choice!
hope to have been helpful
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Why should try v20 first, cant I just flash to v21 right away?
Rocket Rom and abyssplug still you know stock is also good if you can wait till ICS
abhi98228 said:
Rocket Rom and abyssplug still you know stock is also good if you can wait till ICS
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But after what i've seen in videos and reading on net. Its BETTER! I mean no lag, faster speed, improved battery +++
Another question: ive seen posts about not flashing custom roms with Odin, what should i do then, unroot and root again?
AleksLenin said:
But after what i've seen in videos and reading on net. Its BETTER! I mean no lag, faster speed, improved battery +++
Another question: ive seen posts about not flashing custom roms with Odin, what should i do then, unroot and root again?
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if you already rooted and installed CWM recovery, then no need to flash using Odin.
just copy Zip (ROM) to SD card and reboot in CWM recovery then flash.
(Flashing Custom ROM using Odin(PC) adds binary counter)
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if you already rooted and installed CWM recovery, then no need to flash using Odin.
just copy Zip (ROM) to SD card and reboot in CWM recovery then flash.
(Flashing Custom ROM using Odin(PC) adds binary counter)
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Im actually starting too wonder if id used Odin.. This is the package i used: DooMLoRD_v3_ROOT-zergRush-busybox-su
but anyway, i dont think i have CWM recovery installed, i have downloaded Rom Manager, but when i push the Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. I can only choose between a few samsung choices like SII but no Galaxy Note?
Currently on rocket 21 but id highly recommend checkROM v5. Seems the most stable with superb performance and battery. Flash abyss kernel 3.5 and overclock and undervolt to 1600. Guarantee you'll love it. With checkrom you can install missing Samsung apps from kitchen and a variety of mods to suit your needs. Would recommend ics keyboard if you use fingers to type or swype if you use the pen a lot.
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AleksLenin said:
Im actually starting too wonder if id used Odin.. This is the package i used: DooMLoRD_v3_ROOT-zergRush-busybox-su
but anyway, i dont think i have CWM recovery installed, i have downloaded Rom Manager, but when i push the Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. I can only choose between a few samsung choices like SII but no Galaxy Note?
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dont use rom manager check the development section there is first thread how to root NOTE simple steps just run a batch file and they you have Root+CWM installed then installed latest ROM (Stock or Custom) if you ask me i would prefer stock LA6 there is a thread and CF Root Kernel LA6 flash it from CWM or Mobile Odin
Dont use Odin From PC
abhi98228 said:
dont use rom manager check the development section there is first thread how to root NOTE simple steps just run a batch file and they you have Root+CWM installed then installed latest ROM (Stock or Custom) if you ask me i would prefer stock LA6 there is a thread and CF Root Kernel LA6 flash it from CWM or Mobile Odin
Dont use Odin From PC
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Sorry for a dumb question!...But if I use Mobile Odin,I dont need to get CWM?
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Hey, Sorry for the Noob question but I rooted my Note a couple of days ago (Still a Newbie) and was wondering which ROMs would be best to flash now.
I've been using the rooted phone but I couldn't find much of a difference in performance or anything. Actually, I don't even know how or what to remove to increase performance and battery life.
So if you guys could just help me out with this it would be real Helpful!
Question :
Which ROM is the easiest to work with? Since I'm a newbie I have a whole lot of chance that I might just do something stupid and end up with a Hard-bricked phone.
Any help is appreciated..!
Once again, I apologize for being a noob. I haven't really learned a lot about android phone since this is my first!
The first thing I'm going to ask you is, what is your current installed ROM? Stock GB or stock ICS?
If it's still in stock GB (2.3.6), I was using CheckRom Revo HD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQGdSuJBgRA
This video gives you some overview on what that ROM is capable of. (Video courtesy of the original maker: aphroditelikesme)
It gives you some customization while giving you a boost in your battery life. Please read and read on the appropriate forums here in xda on how to install and use this ROM (if you want to)
Now if you want to upgrade to ICS stock 4.0, then can upgrade your ROM thru the standard way, OTA or thru PC KIES. Either way, your phone gets updated with the official firmware and remains rooted still. You may want to check www.samfirmware.com for new official ICS firmware of your region.
On my personal note, I reckon ICS gives me much better life than when I was using GB. Don't forget to install the indispensable tools like Titanium backup so that you can freeze or uninstall samsung's bloatwares there by releasing some needed rams on your phone's memory and also increasing some juices on it.
Hope that helps bud and wish all the best!
Cheers!
PS. Don't forget the 'Thank' button if I have helped you in some way or the other..
letters_to_cleo said:
The first thing I'm going to ask you is, what is your current installed ROM? Stock GB or stock ICS?
If it's still in stock GB (2.3.6), I was using CheckRom Revo HD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQGdSuJBgRA
This video gives you some overview on what that ROM is capable of. (Video courtesy of the original maker: aphroditelikesme)
It gives you some customization while giving you a boost in your battery life. Please read and read on the appropriate forums here in xda on how to install and use this ROM (if you want to)
Now if you want to upgrade to ICS stock 4.0, then can upgrade your ROM thru the standard way, OTA or thru PC KIES. Either way, your phone gets updated with the official firmware and remains rooted still. You may want to check www.samfirmware.com for new official ICS firmware of your region.
On my personal note, I reckon ICS gives me much better life than when I was using GB. Don't forget to install the indispensable tools like Titanium backup so that you can freeze or uninstall samsung's bloatwares there by releasing some needed rams on your phone's memory and also increasing some juices on it.
Hope that helps bud and wish all the best!
Cheers!
PS. Don't forget the 'Thank' button if I have helped you in some way or the other..
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Firstly, Thanks! I could use all the help I get!
Now, coming to the point. I am running Rooted Stock ICS 4.0.3 XXLP8.
Yes, I have installed Titanium Backup and have freezed some of the unusable Samsung applications which always kept running and slowed down my phone..!
I might flash GB for some custom ROM but I would prefer keeping it on ICS cause flashing GB and then some ROM would put me at a higher risk of bricking the phone.
Could you suggest some ICS based ROMs which might be easy for a first timer to handle?
I can flash other ROMs later when I am confident enough not to brick my phone.
aurator said:
Firstly, Thanks! I could use all the help I get!
Now, coming to the point. I am running Rooted Stock ICS 4.0.3 XXLP8.
Yes, I have installed Titanium Backup and have freezed some of the unusable Samsung applications which always kept running and slowed down my phone..!
I might flash GB for some custom ROM but I would prefer keeping it on ICS cause flashing GB and then some ROM would put me at a higher risk of bricking the phone.
Could you suggest some ICS based ROMs which might be easy for a first timer to handle?
I can flash other ROMs later when I am confident enough not to brick my phone.
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Well, sorry to break your bubble bud but I'm not an ardent fan of custom ICS ROMS. I prefer the stock one for now. Personally Touchwiz ain't that bad (in my opinion).
Since your still using 4.0.3, try to just consider upgrading it to 4.0.4. By the way I am already on 4.0.4.
There are tons of stock firmwares for 4.0.4, depending on where your from. Try to use a kernel that's pretty much close to stock itself. I'm currently using SpeedMod v3.9 for now and I must say, From the stock kernel that I was using before (CF root LRG 4.0.4), the battery life on my phone have increased tremendously.
Now if you really still want to try out some other custom ROMS, you can try to read and read on this development thread here or get some reviews from other users as well.
JellyBean is almost a working ROM but I still prefer the stock 4.0.4 ICS one..why? let's just say I prefer to use my Note's 'all' features working and using it as a daily driver.
Cheers!
letters_to_cleo said:
Well, sorry to break your bubble bud but I'm not an ardent fan of custom ICS ROMS. I prefer the stock one for now. Personally Touchwiz ain't that bad (in my opinion).
Since your still using 4.0.3, try to just consider upgrading it to 4.0.4. By the way I am already on 4.0.4.
There are tons of stock firmwares for 4.0.4, depending on where your from. Try to use a kernel that's pretty much close to stock itself. I'm currently using SpeedMod v3.9 for now and I must say, From the stock kernel that I was using before (CF root LRG 4.0.4), the battery life on my phone have increased tremendously.
Now if you really still want to try out some other custom ROMS, you can try to read and read on this development thread here or get some reviews from other users as well.
JellyBean is almost a working ROM but I still prefer the stock 4.0.4 ICS one..why? let's just say I prefer to use my Note's 'all' features working and using it as a daily driver.
Cheers!
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I don't think 4.0.4 is out in India yet (It wasn't there the last time I checked). I'll still keep checking in from time to time though and upgrade as soon as possible.
If I were to stay on 4.0.3 can I still use the SpeedMod v3.9 kernel you're talking about? Also, I could really use a link on how to flash the new kernel as you might have figured out by now, I'm a Newbie
You can flash DXLRG (open germany) or the latest one (DXLRK) to just upgrade it to 4.0.4
For Asian release, I heard there's one already for SingTel but I'm not sure though if it comes with an Indian language pack on it.
Anyway, if you just want to stay on 4.0.3, YES you can still use SpeedMod kernel.** http://touristinparadise.blogspot.com/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-note-ics-download.html
Download the kernel to your SD card (internal or external)
Now since your rooted, download Mobile Odin, run it, grant access thru Superuser and go to the kernel section inside Mobile Odin pro and look for the kernel that you earlier saved from the download.
After that, just tap on flash firmware (inside Mobile Odin still) and that would restart your phone and once booted, you now have a new kernel already.
**credits to the original creator
Don't forget to hit the 'Thank" button if I have helped you someway or the other.
Chrack
I use Chrack 10 right now ! Very fast and stable ! Before i have try both Kingdroid & Alba but nothing like Chrack i can say
letters_to_cleo said:
You can flash DXLRG (open germany) or the latest one (DXLRK) to just upgrade it to 4.0.4
For Asian release, I heard there's one already for SingTel but I'm not sure though if it comes with an Indian language pack on it.
Anyway, if you just want to stay on 4.0.3, YES you can still use SpeedMod kernel.** http://touristinparadise.blogspot.com/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-note-ics-download.html
Download the kernel to your SD card (internal or external)
Now since your rooted, download Mobile Odin, run it, grant access thru Superuser and go to the kernel section inside Mobile Odin pro and look for the kernel that you earlier saved from the download.
After that, just tap on flash firmware (inside Mobile Odin still) and that would restart your phone and once booted, you now have a new kernel already.
**credits to the original creator
Don't forget to hit the 'Thank" button if I have helped you someway or the other.
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Thanks to you, I am now running on SpeedMod Kernel!
Lets see how it goes!
imazehost said:
I use Chrack 10 right now ! Very fast and stable ! Before i have try both Kingdroid & Alba but nothing like Chrack i can say
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1GB to download ? haha its crazy
how is the battery life?