[Q] Reflashing, Modem, Nandroid backup, etc - Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

so i have this question. I have a Galaxy Tab bought in the philippines. when i bought the tab it was already able to take in any carrier here in our country, i dont know if it was correct to say that it was already jail broken. (able to handle any carrier's sim) Im still new to the android world and tried upgrading my tab already.
as of today, I am now using the MODACO rom for the galaxy tab. only issue though the 3g is not working anymore after upgrading (or maybe downgrading) from the stock rom. before i upgraded my tab, The gps is working, 3g working, gallery working, camera working, practically everything is working smoothly without noticeable lags. then now, after upgrading to modaco, the gallery is not working, gps still working, 3g not working, camera working, now experiencing some lags when multiple applications are running like, music + browser and causes me to force close. At start up, i noticed a pixelated flash resembling the recovery menu but it was only like a 1/2 a second flash and would start normally but sorry im a perfectionist, I don't like little things bothering me but if all else fail, I just stick to what I have and bare with it.
browsing the forums i saw that CM7 (cyanogen mod 7, correct me if im wrong) is better than modaco but with camera feature being down, I wouldn't like my camera to be disabled especially when my cousins like to take ALOT of pictures of themselves and other people coz they're vain little buggers. so, which ROM/OS/MOD is the best of the best out there.
I'm thinking of returning my Gtab to the store where i bought it and claim my act of god insurance just to replace my gtab and stay using official everything just for the sake of undoing my "mistake" of upgrading to a Custom Rom even though im still very very veeryy noob at the android world.
FOR CLARIFICATION:
How do you flash/reflash?
What is Flashing? (and i dont mean the naughty kind)
What is a ROM?
What is a MODEM? How to know your MODEM version?
How to know your PDA and CSC?
What are PDA and CSC?
What is a KERNEL?
What is a BASEBAND?
What is a NANDROID BACKUP? Is it different from a Titanium Backup /w root?
What is the most updated custom rom as of today?
Your opinion, What custom rom are you using and think that its best for you.
What custom rom is best used just for occasional use?
What custom rom is best used for heavy using? i.e. Texting, Web Browsing, MP3, Video recording, Camera, Gaming, Office Editing(word, excel, ppts.)?
Thanks to those who would answer my noob questions

anybody ? any answers ?

I'm guessing you've done some research... Forum rule #1: Search before posting. Also, you are missing one important question, rooting. Unless you already know this. Anyhow..
Most of the answers are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933400
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888071
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885734
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=973402
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932082
What is/How do youFlashing? - Flashing is basically replacing a phone's Kernel/ROM/OS. (see above links)
What is a ROM? - Read only Memory: operating system (OS) and all the drivers and software that comes with the phone.
What is a MODEM? How to know your MODEM version?
see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069727
What are/How to know your PDA and CSC?
These are codes to get Firmware version information:
*#*#4986*2650468#*#* PDA, Phone, H/W, RFCallDate
*#*#1234#*#* PDA and Phone
*#*#1111#*#* FTA SW Version
*#*#2222#*#* FTA HW Version
*#*#44336#*#* PDA, Phone, CSC, Build Time, Changelist number
What is a NANDROID BACKUP? - used to backup ROM
Is it different from a Titanium Backup /w root? - used to backup system and user-installed apps.
Rooting - gives you "administrative privelege" on your tab. It gives you the ability to open all folders, hidden and system, delete any file, render your tab useless , as well as install many apps that really rock!
What is the most updated custom rom as of today? Depends. The purpose of ROM customization is to have a phone that works the way you want it to, and not the way the vendors (e.g. samsung) do.
Your opinion, What custom rom are you using and think that its best for you.
Overcome (see above). Also, gingerbread will be out shortly, which means, if you want to try the latest official GB on your tab, you have to re-flash the stock (orig) rom.
What custom rom is best used just for occasional use? stock! Overcome! This really depends on your personal preference.
What custom rom is best used for heavy using? i.e. Texting, Web Browsing, MP3, Video recording, Camera, Gaming, Office Editing(word, excel, ppts.)?
Same as above.
Thanks to those who would answer my noob questions.
It took me a good 10 minutes to answer these.. Please click the thanks button as many times as you can. After all, you had a LOT of questions.. See my other posts and thank them too!

well, i just wanted a quick answer or just a database or a list of what i can search about lol, searching through heavy content could be a hassle when you see lots of results but not the ones you wanted. so yea. hehehe.. i pressed the thanks button. thanks for answering my questions XD
btw, if you back up before editing your tab on kies and try to restore it from kies also, will it revert back to your original ROM when you do it. just want to know, also, will it remove the root after doing so ?
also, you didn't answer the NANDROID BACKUP and TITANIUM BACKUP correctly, I mean please elaborate more on this.
how are they different from each other. XD sorry for being so naggy about this, lol. needed some intelligent answers from people sculpted to my needs. lol!

btw, if you back up before editing your tab on kies and try to restore it from kies also, will it revert back to your original ROM when you do it.
Kies will only back up content such as contacts, images, and videos.. and of course can only restore the same. There is no way of using kies to backup or modify roms. To backup roms, you use nandroid. Search tha market for ROM manager for that. Kies cannot backup applications as well. That's where you use Titanium. One more thing Titanium does is removing vendor installed apps that you don't use (bloatware).
just want to know, also, will it remove the root after doing so ?
Rooting will not affect backup in kies. similarly, restoring contacts, pics and videos will not remove root. HOWEVER, it is reported that some rooted device will not upgrade its firmware in kies. This is a different thing from kies backup.
Again:
Kies is for contacts and pics/vids back up. It is also for official phone updates.
Nandroid backup is for ROMs.
Titanium backup is for system and user applications.
XD sorry for being so naggy about this, lol. needed some intelligent answers from people sculpted to my needs. lol!
Don't be sorry, I don't know anyone who wasn't a noob at one time, including myself. Thanks button is always appreciated!

Clockworkmod
Read this one pre.. but make sure your tab is rooted. Use Superoneclick. I gave you the link to this in the first reply.
This is CWM for flashing ROMS and doing Nandroid back ups. This is one of the easiest guides out there.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide/
Hit thanks if I helped!

Wow. Thanks dude. Now i have a one stop referrence easily found via bookmarking. Hahaha. Now, i just have to find a micro sd card large enough for backung up via nandroid. Just found out today that nandroid is actually just clockworkmod and choosing the backup from the backup and restore menu. Thought that it was a completely different app. Hehehe

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[Q] Some questions about Samsung Galaxy S I9000B (Brazil-Argentina)

Hey guys, how are you doing?
This is my first post in this forum, although I've been reading lots of threads within this section, but I'm a bit lost. I recently got my brand new Samsung Galaxy S i9000B from Personal Argentina. This version is the one with DMB TV.
I had a Motorola Milestone before this one, so I am gladly not new to all the Android thing, but I have a few questions regarding what I can and cannot do with the threads and tutorials that are for the international versions of this phone.
1) First of all, I wanted to know if there is something as the Open Recovery available in the Milestone, from which I could make a nandroid backup that saved everyhing from my phone, making it possible to mess with it and restore the backup aftewards as if nothing had happened (I currently use Titanium Backup but it's not as easy and nice as the nandroid). I read about some "Clockworkmod" Recovery, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm looking for (besides, I had read a post that said that it's backup isn't that safe and doesn't backup everything, is that true?), and another question that is linked with the next one.
2) What are the things that I can use from the threads of the international version of the Galaxy S and what are the ones that will brick/freeze/destroy/detonate (hahaha ) my phone? Because I see lots of tutorials but I am afraid that I may use the wrong things, making my phone unusable (if I had the nandroid and knew that I just had to enter the recovery mode and restore, I would try them by myself without worries, but I'm not so sure yet).
3) I already rooted and unbranded my phone. I wanted to know if there is a way, without loading another rom (apart that there's none for this version), to erase the "boot animation and goodbye animation" from my carrier. I write this between inverted commas because it's not properly the boot animation, which I think is the big "S" with lights converging in the center.
4) Is there a way to enable the usb connection with Launcher Pro enabled? Because my pc (win7 x32) doesn't recognize the phone unless I have the Touchwiz Launcher onscreen.
5) Is there a software like RSD Lite to load the firmwares I download from the internet? I read about some soft called Odin, not sure if it's for that purpose. Also, is there a website with the stock firmwares from all over the world? So I can have my stock firmware in case I needed it for service or anything.
I know that I had more questions by the time I though about this thread, but I can't really remember . Let me say that I feel this like a big improvement over the Milestone, and I'm really happy with it. I hope you can answer my doubts and thank you in advance for that.
BTW, sorry for the long thread
Cheers!
Let me bump this before leaving to the University guys
I know I can't expect an instant response, don't get me wrong. I'm just bumping this in case the ones that know the answers don't visit the second page
With a bit more reaserch plus trial&error I managed to answer myself some of this questions, at least partially. I leave the answers here for anyone else that founds himself in the same mess I did. Any corrections or extensions of my answers will be appreciated.
jmtast said:
1) First of all, I wanted to know if there is something as the Open Recovery available in the Milestone, from which I could make a nandroid backup that saved everyhing from my phone, making it possible to mess with it and restore the backup aftewards as if nothing had happened (I currently use Titanium Backup but it's not as easy and nice as the nandroid). I read about some "Clockworkmod" Recovery, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm looking for (besides, I had read a post that said that it's backup isn't that safe and doesn't backup everything, is that true?), and another question that is linked with the next one.
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Yes. With Clockworkmod Recovery you can make a nandroid backup, among other stuff. You have to download ROM Manager from the market and install the clockwork recovery from there.
2) What are the things that I can use from the threads of the international version of the Galaxy S and what are the ones that will brick/freeze/destroy/detonate (hahaha ) my phone? Because I see lots of tutorials but I am afraid that I may use the wrong things, making my phone unusable (if I had the nandroid and knew that I just had to enter the recovery mode and restore, I would try them by myself without worries, but I'm not so sure yet).
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So far I found out (by reading) that you can't use any firmware from other regions because of the differences on hardware, and also found out (by testing it) that you can't apply the voodoo lagfix, because it's for this regions mentioned before, and it modifies the kernel, remapping your keys (hard and touch ones) and makes your screen react faulty.
3) I already rooted and unbranded my phone. I wanted to know if there is a way, without loading another rom (apart that there's none for this version), to erase the "boot animation and goodbye animation" from my carrier. I write this between inverted commas because it's not properly the boot animation, which I think is the big "S" with lights converging in the center.
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Didn't find the exact answer for this one, but managed to change the animations when I reflashed the phone with an unbranded firmware.
4) Is there a way to enable the usb connection with Launcher Pro enabled? Because my pc (win7 x32) doesn't recognize the phone unless I have the Touchwiz Launcher onscreen.
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Didn't find the answer for this one either. I can't leave Launcherpro as default because it won't connect. Each time I wan't to connect I press the home button and bring the Touchwiz launcher onscreen.
5) Is there a software like RSD Lite to load the firmwares I download from the internet? I read about some soft called Odin, not sure if it's for that purpose. Also, is there a website with the stock firmwares from all over the world? So I can have my stock firmware in case I needed it for service or anything.
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That's right. As I said before, Odin is the software that does the same job as RSD Lite on Motorola.
Nice to read you.
I'm starting the path of unbranding and respawning my SGS from Personal Argentina sorcery.
So, you started ROM Manager, told it to instal CWM and it worked flawlessly, didn't you?

[Q] Upgrade to Gingerbread - what happens to apps and user data?

Hi all,
been reading with interest this forum and was very pleased when Kies finally told me there is an update to my UK unbranded Tab's firmware (didn't want to go down the DIY update route...)
Just have a couple of questions about it though, which I am hoping someone may be able to answer: so here goes:
- what happens to user data (settings mostly, as photos/music/etc are backed up anyway)
- what happens to installed apps? Will these be automatically re-installed as part of the update process?
- what about rooting under 2.3? I am using the excellent z4root to get temporary root privileges so I can run my backups with Titanium (which I guess is the answer to the first two questions) - will z4root work in 2.3? If not, any equivalents so I can restore with Titanium and not worry all settings/data will be lost?
Many thanks in advance
Note I would like to go the "normal" (Kies) way of updating...
1. Home screen settings are not saved.
2. Apps are retained
3. You lose root and only way so far to root is CF root
Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk
Thanks bongski
There is a one click root that will work on stock gb too. It's not perfect, and you really have to read the instructions, but it works, and remember to donate.
Advice for restoring apps with titanium - be sure to restore apps, but no data, as this is the cause of so many problems on upgrades.
rangercaptain said:
There is a one click root that will work on stock gb too
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And it's called?
If you are talking about super one click root the latest kies update cannot be rooted as the exploit had been patched/closed.
I am also interested in other rooting method.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk
What's your current software?
Mine is PDA: JMI
PHONE: JMA
CSC: JM4 (SER).
I also have an unbranded UK Tab
With Titanium backup you can backup applications.Contacts you can backup with gmail and you can even backup sms with the application ' restore and backup sms '
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smahmood143 said:
With Titanium backup you can backup applications.Contacts you can backup with gmail and you can even backup sms with the application ' restore and backup sms '
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA Premium App
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Be careful with titanium backup when restoring data FROM OLD FIRMWARE. Restore only the app on a new firmware to avoid problems.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk
Make sure the back up folder is on your external sd card, or your back up will get wiped when you repartition.
I too use Titanium currently, but it requires root privileges, so if rooting is not yet available for Gingerbread, then presumably it won't be able to restore after the update anyway?
The apps will re-install anyway as I understand it, providing one gives the same gmail account to the device after the update, since they will appear in "my apps" on the market?
My current firmware is FROYO.XWJJ7? (whee can I find the CDA, PHONE etc?)
The rest of the firmware info is on Kies, on the general tab. But it looks like you're on a different build to me... My build is JMI. I'll just have to wait, maybe...
Sent from my sleek Samsung Tab using Tapatalk.
the1madsailor said:
I too use Titanium currently, but it requires root privileges, so if rooting is not yet available for Gingerbread, then presumably it won't be able to restore after the update anyway?
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Gingerbread can be rooted. After you install your gingerbread rom, you flash a kernel into the rom that has the root.
In the development section look for CF-Root v3.3. You flash that kernel using odin3 1.7 in the phone section. It takes ten seconds, the the tab reboots, and is rooted.
Then set up your google account, go to the market, get titanuim and install it, and in titanium change the backup folder to your external sd card, and restore your stuff.
Go for it!
The version of your phone (=modem) you will find in settings -> about device, under "Baseband version".
The CSC-version can be found if you enter *#272*YOURIMEI# in the phone-app. Your IMEI can be found in settings -> about device -> status under "IMEI".
Have fun with Gingerbread.
Or does he mean what goes into blank lines in odin?
rangercaptain said:
Or does he mean what goes into blank lines in odin?
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the1madsailor talks about updating via Kies. He specifically mentions this in the first post, too.
Odin was just brought up when the question of rooting by installing CF-Root arose.
By the way: in Odin kernels need to be inserted under "PDA", not "PHONE". "PHONE" is just for the modem.
Really? :^?
Some days later still haven't upgraded...
Been reading about CF-Root and how to get back to the stock ROM after rooting for a Galaxy S II which recently landed on my hands, which I assume is the same (if not identical) process for the Tab?
Not taken the plunge yet with the Tab as I'm dreading having to re-do all the customisation of all the apps, settings etc...
Out of curiosity, what's Samsung's liability if a "proper" upgrade goes south and one looses all data? Given Kies is not backing up anything worth backing up, surely they (Samsung) have some share of the blame?
Might just go for it in the end and hope for the best (the proper upgrade). From the GSII I can confirm all *paid* apps appear in my account, the free ones need to be manually located and re-installed.
Thanks for your help so far!!
the1madsailor said:
Some days later still haven't upgraded...
Been reading about CF-Root and how to get back to the stock ROM after rooting for a Galaxy S II which recently landed on my hands, which I assume is the same (if not identical) process for the Tab?
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You can upgrade to the stock gingerbread (I recommend the JQ1 GB) then root using the CF-Root v3.3.
I don't know about the sgs2 process, but if you go to the overcome rom thread, you can download a perfect step-by-step guide. Start at the beginning of the guide, and stop at the end of the CF-Root step. Why put it off? Gingerbread is a hundred times nicer than froyo.
Go to the market and get the appsaver app, and back up everett app you are concerned about.
I will be free all day tomorrow. Pm me, then we can exchange email adresses. It is a faster way to discuss things if you get in trouble. I have calouses on my hands from holding many hands of people as they learn to do these things.
Many thanks rangercaptain and thanks for the offer too!!!
I will not be able to do much before the weekend anyway, but what I was thinking is the following (please correct me if I'm wrong):
0. Backup apps, data and market links (where available) with Titanium (using z4root at the mo - wish there was something like it for 2.3 - so simple and easily reversible!!!) - DONE!
1. Let Kies do it's thing (whether that's just an update to 2.2 or the whole thing through to 2.3), making note of all versions (PHONE, PDA, CSC)
2. If I get the 2.3, get ODIN and CF-Root 3.3 and run the rooting process
2(a). Get the Overcome ROM and follow the instructions (not sure about this as it doesn't seem to have the modem included so not sure what that means)
2(b). If I do 2(a) above, get a copy of my stock ROM from somewhere for reverting to stock if needed
3. Get Titanium installed again from the market and restore everything (apps, data and market links) from the backup folder
What I really want is to upgrade to Gingerbread through the "official" channels but be able to restore everything as it is at the moment with regards to the apps and their settings/data. The Overcome idea is simply because I wouldn't mind having a slightly improved version of Gingerbread with things like Ad-hoc WiFi capabilities (am I right in understanding that OC has this embedded instead of me having to copy the wpa_supplicant file?)
Am I missing something?
Thanks again!

[Q] Stock Galaxy S; Drowning in Information

Hi everyone,
I have a Galaxy S that is rooted, but runs on stock Froyo.
In the last couple of weeks/months it has been slugging to a slow halt though... when I start it up, it can take tens of minutes to be ready to use. And when I use it, it sometimes shows black screens for minutes at a time.
Using this 'high-end' phone has become a very, very painful process for me.
So I started looking for answers. And I found them. A LOT of them.
So much, I am not sure where to start.
The last few days I have been casually reading and taking in data from this forum, but I have yet failed to form me a proper view of what to do... Kernels, ROMs, speed fixes, modems... help?
I am sorry if I am breaking any rules; I did search, and I did read. However, no thread I found has a proper and up-to-date guide regarding the best way to get my phone to be a powerhouse, not a snail.
(Could I keep my current apps installed?)
I would very much appreciate anyone who is willing to donate some time to get me going. I know some programming and am the families 'go-to-guy' when it comes to computers, so I should be ok once I get some pointers on what to look for.
Thank you for reading (and responding?),
MM
I dunno if this will help you anyway i'll post it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752
I did read that; thanks for the suggestion though.
It doesn't really go into kernels/roms/modems etc. which my main confusion is about.
I just downloaded darky's ROM... Reading their site, but I am afraid of losing my apps, not going to 2.3, having it interfere with my lagfix etc. =/
If you are afraid of loosing apps you can use titanium backup. You can download it from the market. I can't tell you anymore because that thread explains very well what you have to do. But i can say that after some time it will be very easy and you will not be afraid to flash a kernel or a rom. I post this too but i think you have read this too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
I did read that... I missed the 2.2 / 2.3 part however.
I planned on using Darky's ROM but that link says its a Froyo ROM.
Which one is better, currently; Cyanogen (Gingerbread) or Darky's (Froyo)?
Edit: also, while that post lists a lot of options, it in no way goes into which is the best option for which people...
Increasing the confusion a little bit more, so to speak.
Try cyanogenmod and darkyy rom and decide which is the best. I can't recommend anything you have to decide. But i suggest to upgrade to gingerbread. Your phone will get smoother. (darky's 10.2 is based on jvq a 2.3.4 gingerbread firmware). Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061946 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091. Remember: with cyanogenmod you have to use different kernels
Mad Maniak said:
The last few days I have been casually reading and taking in data from this forum, but I have yet failed to form me a proper view of what to do... Kernels, ROMs, speed fixes, modems... help?
MM
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I'm a noob but I'll try to clear out few things for you.
From what I understand ROMs are like operating systems you use on PC.you currently have a froyo ROM running and flashing a gingerbread ROM will be like going from windows XP to windows 7.
when you download a ROM and unrar it you'll see 3 files.
PDA is the main one. PDA is Android and the apps that come with it. MODEM is the firmware of the wireless chipset of the device, it controls WiFi, Bluetooth and 3G/2G/GSM connections. The CSC holds connection data for the broadband networks as well as apps that are only available in certain languages/intended for a specific area or operator.
A kernel is like the heart of the operating system.It manages the system resources and acts as bridge between the software and hardware.
Now there are stock kernels and custom kernels. when you flash(install) a stock ROM all the necessary things are installed along with the stock kernel.
But if you wish you can flash custom kernels over stock kernels.
The speed/lag fix things you have read are basically conversion of file systems to enhance the I/O performance of your phone. You should know of the NTFS,FAT32 file systems in windows, similarly you android phone can have RFS,EXT4 file system. when you flash a stock rom RFS is default file system that gets installed.Many say that this RFS is to blame for the lag,slowness in our phone so what we do? we convert to EXT4. but to convert to EXT4 you need to be running a custom kernel.
So let me tell you this go on and flash a stock gingerbread rom, Im using the latest stock 2.3.4 XXJVR and you should try it. then you flash the voodoo kernel for XXJVR. it'll root your phone,convert the file system to EXT4.
reply if you have confusions.
cheers
Now you are on froyo. If you want to upgrade to gingerbread you should loose your application. Because if you backup your application using titanium backup or any other software from froyo. Its not advisable to restore in gingerbread. It will give always problem. So better way is download Drakys v10.2RE and do a fresh install.
http://samsung-sgs.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-flash-darkys-rom-v102-re.html
This happened to me once, when I was already on Froyo, lagfix activated, etc.
Took forever to boot, and was slow as hell.
Reason: faulty microsd card. The phone kept trying to read from it, and was unable to. I tried taking out the card and... voilá!
You could be still on Éclair and no lag fix activated, the phone would never behave like that. Try taking out the microsd card.
(Couldn't even read the card in the computer, so you see).
Hi guys, a small update:
I got Darky's 10.2, which is VERY smooth.
I reformatted my external microSD and put my stuff (music) back on it. Clean install on the internal SD.
It is a very enjoyable device once again. Two issues:
-It sometimes hangs on a black screen which I can't get out of with the home button. It seems only a battery in-and-out fixes this. (This issue worries me; is the internal SD corrupted?)
-The external microSD sometimes needs to be ejected and re-inserted to work.
Any solutions regarding that? Should I get a new microSD, or even contact Samsung to ask for a new phone (especially the first issue worries me... a lot).
Again, thanks a lot for the very extensive answers.
Especially marib; your post was very informative, and I'll be keeping a bookmark of it for future reference... thanks!
I think you could search for this issues in the darky's thread and if not found post the issue there to get a promt solution.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091
Yeah, figured as much.
Will be tackeling these issues in the weekend.
Just thought of posting them in this here thread too. Might have gotten lucky, and the thread was here anywho.
Again, thanks.

[Q] Backing up my entire(?) Galaxy S I9000 with nandroid

Hey folks,
So here I am, after almost 18 months of enjoying my nice Samsung Galaxy S device with official ROMs, finally thinking of flashing a custom ROM. I've done some reading on the subject, and I have some experience flashing ROMs using ODIN- I once flashed the official Samsung 2.3.3 ROM to my device when Samsung Kies decided to go rebel on me.
Now, flashing a custom ROM takes a little more knowledge, and I would like to feel secure doing it. That means I would like to backup my phone, being able to restore it if necessary. Apparently a "nandroid backup" will be able to make an image of my complete "system". That leaves me wondering: what is my complete system, and what is not?
So I've got a couple of questions, assuming I would want to back up my ENTIRE phone. That includes text messages, whatsapp messages, app settings/scores, pictures, movies, etc.
1. Would Nandroid be able to do this job? It creates a system image, does that include all apps (and their scores/settings)? And what about text messages, that are -for as far as I know- also stored in the system?
2. Would just a Nandroid backup be enough? Do files like images, mp3s, movies, etc stay where they are when a new ROM is flashed? I have no clue what part of the system is replaced when a costum ROM is flashed... And therefore no idea what might disappear, and what needs no back upping.
I'm also wondering: after flashing the rom, and while being on it, will I be able to retrieve those old messages, apps, images, etc? I'm assuming the stuff on my internal SD card is pretty safe, but I'm better safe than sorry :b. Or would that require the titanium backup stuff?
These are some specific questions, probably easy to answer for those that are experienced users. Any other tips are welcomed as well! Thanks a lot for the effort!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186090
Next time, use "Search" before asking, thx!
Had honestly done that, couldn't find the answer to what it specifically did and did not back up. Hah, and you just answered the only question that I had left in the thread you linked to. Thanks ChaosLord88.

[Q] Stacking ROMs & Creating Back ups (Note Received)

Good day all.
Before I ask my questions I would like to say that In the few days I have been here I have been working on Understanding the Technical terms and Jargon this site uses ever so much, I have learned.
While the wiki (and these posts here) has helped a bit...I still find myself feeling a bit nauseous from what I have been currently been unable to understand so you might have to stand me being a noob for just a little bit longer I'm afraid.
Anywho...on to the questions...
I am aware the ROMs must match a given make and model of a phone to work and custom kernels must be matched to specific ROMs, but alot of these ROMs have really awesome features & improvements. Better Sound, DSP-equalizer, More efficient battery use, more function UIs, more control on security, SONY based Engines, CRT-Off Animations, ...why can't they all just work together?!?! So now I have to ask the crazy...
Is it possible to stack the features of different ROMs?
What is it I need to be looking for compatibility wise between all these ROMs/Themes/Apps/Kernels to make sure that I don't Clay or Brick the Note by combining the wrong codes?
I'm trying to figure out what I can do to mix and match intelligently to get the most out of a rooted note (as is... I suppose... all of you here).
On that...uh...note, I have seen a lot of talk about Titanium-backup App, Clockworkmod Recovery App & Nandroids.
Why do I need to use these to back up?
Why can't I just go into the phone & copy and paste all the files on a folder in the computer? Is it because Android is Linux based? Do not all the files show?
Should I have all these Backup Apps to back up every part of the Note or is just one enough?
Oh and one more thing... I Received my note today & a lot faster than I expected. So...
What would you recommend to be the smartest thing to do first after root?
Decisions Decisions.
Thank You
The most basic differentiating factor is to see if the ROMs are TouchWiz based or AOSP/CM/AOKP based, those are the main 2 categories that every ROM here falls under
Features from one category *mostly* can not be ported to other category if they are not present there. For example, S-Memo are exclusive to TouchWiz ROMs just like Tablet mode is exclusive to AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs, but there might some rare exceptions
IMHO Titanium Backup is useful only if you have games data, normal apps I prefer to set them up manually to have the cleanest setup possible. Nandroids, OTOH, are essential, they are your safety net if anything goes wrong.
You can't back up an OS just by copying the files over cause you don't have access to the kernel and lower system files, that's where nandroids help
Hope this helps
matius44 said:
The most basic differentiating factor is to see if the ROMs are TouchWiz based or AOSP/CM/AOKP based, those are the main 2 categories that every ROM here falls under
Features from one category *mostly* can not be ported to other category if they are not present there. For example, S-Memo are exclusive to TouchWiz ROMs just like Tablet mode is exclusive to AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs, but there might some rare exceptions
IMHO Titanium Backup is useful only if you have games data, normal apps I prefer to set them up manually to have the cleanest setup possible. Nandroids, OTOH, are essential, they are your safety net if anything goes wrong.
You can't back up an OS just by copying the files over cause you don't have access to the kernel and lower system files, that's where nandroids help
Hope this helps
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Oh! Right... I'm not just backing up apps... I'm backing Up the OS. Duh. Ok.
I was thinking about it the wrong way.
I know what a TouchWiz ROM is, and its good to know that Tablet mode is exclusive to AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs, I didn't know that either. As I mentioned in my post... I'm still working on the Jargon here. What does "AOSP/CM/AOKP" Mean? Can I switch around features if I kept in those respective types of ROMs?
CrazyOGuy said:
Oh! Right... I'm not just backing up apps... I'm backing Up the OS. Duh. Ok.
I was thinking about it the wrong way.
I know what a TouchWiz ROM is, and its good to know that Tablet mode is exclusive to AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs, I didn't know that either. As I mentioned in my post... I'm still working on the Jargon here. What does "AOSP/CM/AOKP" Mean? Can I switch around features if I kept in those respective types of ROMs?
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AOSP is "Android Open Source Project". That is just one kind of custom ROM. Also, several ROMs on here are built on "AOSP", meaning they use AOSP as a base and add "features" to it.
CM is "CyanogenMod". They are a very popular team that builds custom ROMs for different phones out there. Same thing applies, people will builld custom ROMs based on CM9 (which is Ice Cream Sandwich based) and add their own "features" to it. CM7 is Gingerbread based and not on the Note.
Also, read about the bricking situations, just to wrap your head around it and stay safe. Basically, just know right now that the only "safe" kernel is the CM9 kernel built by xplodwild OR the DAFUQ kernel built by Entropy.
The ICS sources have come out so we should see more kernels come out as the devs get their hands dirty.
I use Titantium Backup, personally, to back up my individual apps and such when I switch ROMs. Now, of course, if you restore apps, you might run into problems and you might need to wipe data again and start over and not restore apps. But, I RARELY have problems.
I hope all these details help!
CrazyOGuy said:
Oh! Right... I'm not just backing up apps... I'm backing Up the OS. Duh. Ok.
I was thinking about it the wrong way.
I know what a TouchWiz ROM is, and its good to know that Tablet mode is exclusive to AOSP/CM/AOKP ROMs, I didn't know that either. As I mentioned in my post... I'm still working on the Jargon here. What does "AOSP/CM/AOKP" Mean? Can I switch around features if I kept in those respective types of ROMs?
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AOSP = Android Open Source Project = Google's pure android
CM = CyanogenMod
AOKP = Android Open Kang Project
Features theoretically can be ported between these, but it requires hackery skills since mostly it's framework dependant
For example, AOKP is famous with its ROM Control option in Settings menu, this is not present in AOSP at all and some of it is present in CM9. If you have good knowledge in code you can port, not very easy task
CrazyOGuy said:
What would you recommend to be the smartest thing to do first after root?
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There are things that need to be done before the root. You need some basic tools to get into the business of flashing stuff.
1. PC Odin - that's a software for flashing firmware from your Windows. You can get it here. Top left hand corner of the first post.
2. Windows drivers - they are needed so your PC can recognize the phone once connect the two. Get it from the same URL, same place.
3. Mobile Odin Pro - basically does the same functions as PC Odin, but from your Note, not from the PC. Get the Lite version
if the Playstore doesn't let you buy the Pro one.
4. Titanium Backup - this is optional. I use it all the time with no trouble, but some prefer to re-install their apps manually after they switch to another Rom. Titanium allows you to backup all your apps and their data, and does a quick batch restore when you need it.
Now about the rooting matter.
I would recommend the following method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25285584&postcount=3
I think it is by far the easiest and quickest one.
After you are successfully rooted, come back here, report, and we'll take it from there, OK?
We won't be going anywhere.
P.S. If you get into bootloop after the PC Odin has finished the flash, don't panic, but read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26460335&postcount=4
chasmodo said:
There are things that need to be done before the root. You need some basic tools to get into the business of flashing stuff.
1. PC Odin - that's a software for flashing firmware from your Windows. You can get it here. Top left hand corner of the first post.
2. Windows drivers - they are needed so your PC can recognize the phone once connect the two. Get it from the same URL, same place.
3. Mobile Odin Pro - basically does the same functions as PC Odin, but from your Note, not from the PC. Get the Lite version
if the Playstore doesn't let you buy the Pro one.
4. Titanium Backup - this is optional. I use it all the time with no trouble, but some prefer to re-install their apps manually after they switch to another Rom. Titanium allows you to backup all your apps and their data, and does a quick batch restore when you need it.
Now about the rooting matter.
I would recommend the following method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25285584&postcount=3
I think it is by far the easiest and quickest one.
After you are successfully rooted, come back here, report, and we'll take it from there, OK?
We won't be going anywhere.
P.S. If you get into bootloop after the PC Odin has finished the flash, don't panic, but read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26460335&postcount=4
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I did all that Pre-Root stuff two days ago. ☜(゚ヮ゚☜) YEAAAA!
As for how the root went...so far so good. As such I've just been upgraded from noob to kiddie hacker. Yay me...I guess.
I also did go for Titanium-backup App & Clockwork mod Recovery App (Free). Could not find Nandroid.
I am currently on 2.3.6 GB.
With that said. Now comes the fun part(...right?)
If you have done just what cursed4eva did in his video, you are rooted, but still haven't got a proper CLockWorkMod Recovery for further flashing.
If that is the case, you need to go to Chainfire's kernel thread and download the matching CF-Root kernel. For instance, download CF-Root-SGN_XX_OXA_LC1-v5.3-CWM5.zip if you have flashed N7000XXLC1_N7000OXALC1 Open Europe.
You need to extract the kernel zip to get the tar file inside. Put that tar file on your SD card, start Mobile Odin, tap on 'kernel' option, navigate to the kernel tar and flash. The phone will reboot, MO will flash the kernel, and you'll have the fully functional CWMR you need for doing nandroid backups/restores and flashing custom Roms.
Sorry for the Delay. Micro-SD Card took longer to receive than expected.
I have gone in and put that matching LA# .tar file on Moble ODIN. At the risk of asking a question whose only answer can be "DUH!"...
To flash the Kernel (or any of the respective things Mobile ODIN can do) do I press "Flash Firmware"?
My Concern of Bricking > Risk of asking Stupid Obvious Question
Edit: Every single place I searched presses said button...so I guess that's a yes. >_<
Edit 2: Success!
So how are the names given? Is all I need to look for is just match random bits of the titles code to see if the two are compatible?
And with this done...I can now start with some of the fun stuff... right?

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