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I've noticed a pretty big difference in battery life and charge time with this application running. The application states that it has improved battery life by 1.75x on my phone. It also seems to lop some charging time off.
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same here, its actually increased my batter life by 2.3x but thats because I put in in constant extreme mode. It saves a ton of battery but because it shuts everything off except texting and calling while the screen is off, when I turn it on to get the text or call it blows up with emails and other notifications... Its kind of funny actually. But yeah this is a great app if your looking to conserve life as long as possible and not worried about getting delayed notifications.
good stuff. i have mine set to aggressive and it's done ok for now.
I think my biggest problem with juice defender is the learning curve. Yeah I want to save battery life. But no, I don't want to miss an IM or email or something. I keep looking for a generally simple walk through on how to set stuff up and select the settings to get the best optimal results.
I have an extended battery and 2 of the regular ones, so battery life has ceased to be an issue. Still I'd like it to be a bit better than it is now.
WWJDD?
I use aggressive on mine and it says that it averages x1.83, it's amazing, I'm actually considering buying the paid version because of how awesome it really is, and that's from someone who has had a Droid for over 2 years and has never paid for a single app, because I thought that it was pointless. Thank you for converting me JD!!!
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I think my biggest problem with juice defender is the learning curve. Yeah I want to save battery life. But no, I don't want to miss an IM or email or something. I keep looking for a generally simple walk through on how to set stuff up and select the settings to get the best optimal results.
I have an extended battery and 2 of the regular ones, so battery life has ceased to be an issue. Still I'd like it to be a bit better than it is now.
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Here's a good place to start reading up on features http://latedroid.com/juicedefender
When you're ready to roll aggressive/custom you can take a look through the settings / help, also this app configuration article on their FAQ looks handy as well http://feedback.latedroid.com/forums/70437-general/suggestions/1409997-faq-configure-apps?ref=title
The auto config is fine but to see some real benefits one needs to set it up. Over time I'm sure the battery life benefit is huge.
For example you could disable data during the night, set it to 15 minute data off during the day, configure the apps you want (i.e. disabling data when using a game that doesn't need it).
My main concern is regarding compatibility with the Revo.
For example I'm getting an error that says: "ROM is not compatible with AOSP helper (3G control is unavailable) - get CyanogenMod"
Not sure how much of the app is compatible, what have you guys found?
JD set on balanced. 52 sms messages, multiple facebook checks, nothing else. good 4g coverage. unplugged at 9am, 30% and falling at 3pm. ok?
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JD set on balanced. 52 sms messages, multiple facebook checks, nothing else. good 4g coverage. unplugged at 9am, 30% and falling at 3pm. ok?
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check how good your service is. when it's not the data draining bettery, it usually means it's spending a lot of energy searching for cell signal
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Root and use SetCPU, and slam into 'on demand' with a minimum of 250mhz clock. battery life is CRAZY good now and i never have to worry about missing a email from gmail or my works outlook server (which goes off like crazy, around 100 emails a day)
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I use aggressive on mine and it says that it averages x1.83, it's amazing, I'm actually considering buying the paid version because of how awesome it really is, and that's from someone who has had a Droid for over 2 years and has never paid for a single app, because I thought that it was pointless. Thank you for converting me JD!!!
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Pointless to buy apps? lol, thats the reason many app developers won't develop for Android. Android owners are generally known to be cheapskates, and this is why the big app developers have avoided Android for the most part. There not going to develop something if they don't think they can make money on it. And that is the biggest reason the iPhone gets the best apps and we get leftovers. The other reason is the amount of different Androids, but the main reason is that they want to make money because they are a business.
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Pointless to buy apps? lol, thats the reason many app developers won't develop for Android. Android owners are generally known to be cheapskates, and this is why the big app developers have avoided Android for the most part. There not going to develop something if they don't think they can make money on it. And that is the biggest reason the iPhone gets the best apps and we get leftovers. The other reason is the amount of different Androids, but the main reason is that they want to make money because they are a business.
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I actually bought the most expensive of this app, I think it was $5 or $6, my buddy has the itouch and he hacked it, he now can have pretty much any app he wants for FREE. The only things I used my original Motorolla Droid was for taking pictures (stock app), playing angrybirds, and calling/texting people. With this new phone I'm doing a lot more, and very willing to give credit where credit is due, so get off your high horse and buy an iphone if your so worried about getting the bad end of the deal.
I bought JD Ultimate. Great buy IMHO. I was using set CPU and Setting Profiles which work well. JDU does all that those do and so much more. I have on demand CPU set. wifi only comes on when I am home based on cell signal GPS not the standalone GPS which chews battery. It also lets you disable individual apps from checking statuses when the screen is off and then enables them as soon as you turn the screen on. GPS standalone only comes on when the screen is on. I have different profiles for work hours and off hours so it does email instantly while at work and only every 15 minutes in the evening. I have more than doubled my battery life.
Revo + De-crap rom + lock scree/battery indicator mod + Juice Defender Ultimate = best phone available today
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I bought JD Ultimate. Great buy IMHO. I was using set CPU and Setting Profiles which work well. JDU does all that those do and so much more. I have on demand CPU set. wifi only comes on when I am home based on cell signal GPS not the standalone GPS which chews battery. It also lets you disable individual apps from checking statuses when the screen is off and then enables them as soon as you turn the screen on. GPS standalone only comes on when the screen is on. I have different profiles for work hours and off hours so it does email instantly while at work and only every 15 minutes in the evening. I have more than doubled my battery life.
Revo + De-crap rom + lock scree/battery indicator mod + Juice Defender Ultimate = best phone available today
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Absolutely agree! All the same for me!
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lag to re-enable mobile data?
i stopped using JD because I couldnt take the lag and inconsistency with which it would restore mobile data connection on unlock
i tried restoring a backup of JD beta and it actually seems to be more consistent.
i'm curious, how long does JD ultimate take to restore data connection for those who have it?
thx
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i stopped using JD because I couldnt take the lag and inconsistency with which it would restore mobile data connection on unlock
i tried restoring a backup of JD beta and it actually seems to be more consistent.
i'm curious, how long does JD ultimate take to restore data connection for those who have it?
thx
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5 seconds... Maybe 10 if I'm in a bad coverage area. This is 3g only though. No 4g here yet.
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It does take a few seconds to restore connections. And it is a little annoying. Probably 5 seconds for everything to be restored and 100% functioning.
With Ultimate version you can make very detailed customization's. So for example you could tell it not to give access to apps like Facebook to update when the screen is off, and to only turn on Wifi when at a certain GPS location (it uses phone radio for location not the GPS radio so it doesn't use battery), and use processor on demand scaling, and you could set it to only turn off radio's during off hours, say in the evening when the 5 second lag might not be as big an issue. Doing those things would still give you significant improvements in battery use while not causing the hassle of waiting for radio's to turn back on. For example I have mine set to sync email in real time during business hours, and at 15 minute intervals in the evening. So I don't get as much battery life as I potentially could, but I also don't have to wait for it to sync things up while I'm at work.
Right now I have been off the charger for 6.5 hours, and have been checking email regularly, and even flashed the clock mod that just got posted in the development forum, and I'm at 80% battery. Not bad.
Doubt he is "hacking" them. There is installius for the iPhone which is the apparently store cracked equivelant which houses many already cracked ipa's. With that being said many developers are in arms in apples lack of piracy for not checking having a more consistent way of checking authenticity of applications. As long as it keeps up you will see less updates for popular applications and developers moving to different platforms.
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Hello all,
I like to use "Green Power Free" for battery savings. You can download it in the market. It's a free app, i suggest it to all my Android friends.
Now I'm going to have to go back on saying green power. It fails to register the lock/unlock correctly and either never shuts down the modems on a screen lock or never turns them back on after an unlock. Green power works well on my friends Streak and on another friends inc2, so must be the LG magic getting things fuzzy for GP. So back to JD for now.
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cm7 should fix a lot of battery issues and extend it a ton
Hey guys, just got my O2x a week ago and its great. It was flashed with 2.3 and at some point I tested updating using LG Suite and I went to 2.2.2
Anyway, just asking if how long do your batteries (stock) last? Tested mine about 3 days ago and within a day it got drained. Just using browser and played some music and that's it, no Youtube or heavy games or whatsoever. Already rooted my phone and removed everything that LG has there except for the keyboard, Suite, Mobile Support, and Home Launcher. Still, same results. Please help!!
I have been using the free version of juice defender and that has help my battery a little so I now cab get a good couple of days out of it. The free version only really stops data when the phone is locked but it seems to work quite well. I also installed juice plotter to see when my battery gets eaten.
Thanks will do that. So basically battery drains more if mobile data is on? Haven't really experience that on my old phone (which is not Android OS).
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Thanks will do that. So basically battery drains more if mobile data is on? Haven't really experience that on my old phone (which is not Android OS).
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I had to charge mine every night and sometimes 2 times a day.
Now, on a GB ROM, and with mobile data OFF, it last for at least a day (24h). This is with WiFi on (when awake of course).
Install a widget to quickly turn on/off mobile data, and only use it when you need. Then your battery will not drain that quickly.
Sorry for my bad english
My battery "record" is over 2 days Well, actually allmost 4 days, but then I didn't have WiFi on neither..
Mobile data is the killer only for badly done apps. Things like fb and twitter that sync every hour etc. Make sure when you install every app you check its sync status. Make them as infrequent as possible
Also try see how low you can get the brightness. Mine stays at 30% until out in the sun (have a widget to up it).
Remember even if not using your phone at home etc to switch tho wifi on as its much better
On good days can get 30/40 hours between charges when low use
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Worth to mention is that to get the less battery drain from turning on the wifi you have to turn of the data. Some people forget that and leave both on making it a double drain.
My only tip that I have that I know works is use it as little as possible. Turn off every thing that's not needed in the matter of syncing.
I'm no expert but is that right? All of the data goes through the wifi when on and connected so data connection is irrelevant surely?
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Thanks for the input and somehow, I can feel the effects now. Also put LBE Security and turned off most mobile data permission on my apps and even if my Wifi is on, not much of a battery drain but at least it has less loss.
i think that 1day is the real time of this battery with 1charge...intense use...
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I'm no expert but is that right? All of the data goes through the wifi when on and connected so data connection is irrelevant surely?
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Yes when wifi is on data is automatically off.... You cannot have both on...
Wifi is no very power consuming when it's connected idle to a network, but think to turn it off if no hotspot is there because network scan drains a lot.
O2X withTopogigi ROM 1.3/NeoBlaze kernel
Want to make it last long? Dont use it!!!
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Want to make it last long? Dont use it!!!
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LOL.. anyways, i use juice defender. It does help somehow.
I have a same problem. Using my Optimus with MIUI ROM (Gingerbread 2.3.5) i only have 7 hours.
In my opinion,turning off all data connection to improving battery life, it's not a good idea when we choose Android phone.
So?
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Try to install djdroid 0.9.1 !!!! With 3g data always on, 2 email with push, some phone and sms, and whatsapp always on i'm on 24h!!!!!!
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arifbsantoso said:
I have a same problem. Using my Optimus with MIUI ROM (Gingerbread 2.3.5) i only have 7 hours.
In my opinion,turning off all data connection to improving battery life, it's not a good idea when we choose Android phone.
So?
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O_O My phone came with v20c 2.2.2 and had no issues, ran 3days per charge. Wish I had backups of original ril and BB for they were 100% on any I've tried since going through a bunch of custom roms.
I get 10 hours of *idle* time with 3g enabled. With Juicedefender things are okay, I almost always make it through the day and sometimes even 2 days when I'm not doing anything, but the battery just goes nuts if you use it. Sometimes I browse the web for a minute and bam 5% is gone, and I'm thinking to myself "what the hell just happened?".
You have to be very careful with apps that do not close properly. I discovered that Spotify was draining my phone like crazy and causing it to become very hot (draining it even faster, heat = dead battery in no-time) with no way to prevent this other than uninstalling the app. Then I installed a beta version of Spotify from their website and all is well. AccuWeather also goes nuts sometimes but that's resolved by deleting the widget on my home screen.
I run the latest nightly of CM7. Battery life seems to be about the same as the stock ROM for me. What's interesting is that active 3g data use drains the battery more than playing a game. I can play emulated PSX games for about 5 hours straight on a full battery with data controlled by JD.
Everyone should try the latest rom v20e (or the derivated version topogigi's rom). For me, it improves battery a lot! I don't even use Juice defender (and some people said it worsens battery).
v20e
yes Im on V20e and my battery is preety good !
Almost 2 days and I write almost 100 messanger/day and always wifi on checking emails,fb and more !
Hey guys, haven't posted since testing for about week, I guess...
Anyway, battery seems to be ok now. Juice Defender and Plotter works great, plus now on sleep, it just drain 1% per 2-3hrs or sometimes nothing at all, and its not SOD thats for sure.
Also tried Battery Calibration, it worked somehow also so with lots of messaging, wifi, FB, Tap Sonic, plus downloading torrents, lasted 24hrs in full charge with constant use.
2g + Wi-Fi drains the battery much faster than 3G + Wi-Fi for me. Both have a good signal strength.
Anyone know why this is?
Curious to know what the major consensus is as far as which ROM carries 1st place for battery life. In my experience thus far, Liberty is an insane battery hog (albeit an amazing ROM), and ICS is a bit below stock battery levels. Which ROM would you say has the best/longest battery life?
Steel droid is the best IMO but ive been on liberty 3 and its been average. Im not impressed but im not disappointed either. Anyways i flashed the v7 speedy script and that really sped up my phone and i noticed a HUGE increase in battery life.
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on top of whatever ROM you decide to use. if you want to save some more battery life get juice defender and rom Toolbox. they have great tweaks to help out
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on top of whatever ROM you decide to use. if you want to save some more battery life get juice defender and rom Toolbox. they have great tweaks to help out
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Ohh yeah that too ;p I have that but i have it on the default setting. If u have a custom setting on can u tell me what urs is set at for optimum performance? Thanks man
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honestly it depends what im doing. If im not going to be needing my data i toggle the button that turns off data when screen is locked. Other than that i use the regular settings for juice defender... for ROM Toolbox my settings are;
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VM Heap 88m
Scan Interval 150
Max Events 120
thats all i really did as far as performance/battery balance. i dont know what the values in some of the sections do so i left them alone. most imporant is scan interval though so that wifi doesnt kill your power. also i found out display is the primary power sucker for my system. So i keep that on low by default. Other people probably have even better tips but thats mine =]
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honestly it depends what im doing. If im not going to be needing my data i toggle the button that turns off data when screen is locked. Other than that i use the regular settings for juice defender... for ROM Toolbox my settings are;
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VM Heap 88m
Scan Interval 150
Max Events 120
thats all i really did as far as performance/battery balance. i dont know what the values in some of the sections do so i left them alone. most imporant is scan interval though so that wifi doesnt kill your power. also i found out display is the primary power sucker for my system. So i keep that on low by default. Other people probably have even better tips but thats mine =]
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Wouldn't reducing scan interval from 300 to 150 make the wifi scan more and actually decrease battery life? (could be mistaken)
my scan interval was set to 60 when i first got ROM Toolbox lol. But yea you can put it at 300, thatll save more battery life.
Oh default for liberty was 180.. i must have bumped it up and not noticed lol, wish I could set it to manual instead.
Well every fice minutes isnt bad. And juice defnder has a setting to only turn on wifi when your in areas you normally use it so that saves alot without havin to remember to turn it off
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Autokiller,strict preset. I use it and I have good battery life with fb running 24/7.
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My default is:
Scan interval 300
Max events 160
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Autokiller,strict preset. I use it and I have good battery life with fb running 24/7.
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What is your obsession with controlling Facebook? Serious question, because I've seen a few responses from you talking about using Autokiller (a horrible idea to begin with) strictly for Facebook. You make it sound like Facebook sucks up 100% of your battery in an hour. I have Facebook running in the background all day every day, no joke. It doesn't even PECK my battery according to my stats. I think there's something weird happening on your phone.
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What is your obsession with controlling Facebook? Serious question, because I've seen a few responses from you talking about using Autokiller (a horrible idea to begin with) strictly for Facebook. You make it sound like Facebook sucks up 100% of your battery in an hour. I have Facebook running in the background all day every day, no joke. It doesn't even PECK my battery according to my stats. I think there's something weird happening on your phone.
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I've noticed in some other threads him recommending autokillers/task killers. I don't know what others are doing with their phones but I always have 150-200 megs of free ram. You'll use more cpu time killing and having the app restart then just letting the app sit in RAM. If you find its operation that undesireable on your phone, just get rid of the app.
Another way to control your free ram is using minfrees. I'm set to have 100 megs free ram. If a particular app is runing wild you can kill it in settings>applications>running services, or just reboot your phone every now and again to clean the slate.
I know, off topic.
OP I find most of the roms are pretty similar in regards to battery life. I personally prefer liberty rom, I easily get 12-18 hours out of the battery and I use it a fair bit, often checking twitter, xda and other random surfing, frequent texts a few phone calls and a couple hours of music. I have gotten 40 hours with 25% left on the battery, with minimal use(face first on the couch after new years for 2 days) liberty throws up the high cell standby in battery usage but I don't believe it, I think its a reporting error. Other roms have had the same battery life without the high cell standby. I've found an apparent way to fix it(apparently) although its giving me some issues. Anyways, long story short, any rom should give you an improvment over stock with liberty and steel droid being the favourites
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I've noticed in some other threads him recommending autokillers/task killers. I don't know what others are doing with their phones but I always have 150-200 megs of free ram. You'll use more cpu time killing and having the app restart then just letting the app sit in RAM. If you find its operation that undesireable on your phone, just get rid of the app.
Another way to control your free ram is using minfrees. I'm set to have 100 megs free ram. If a particular app is runing wild you can kill it in settings>applications>running services, or just reboot your phone every now and again to clean the slate.
I know, off topic.
OP I find most of the roms are pretty similar in regards to battery life. I personally prefer liberty rom, I easily get 12-18 hours out of the battery and I use it a fair bit, often checking twitter, xda and other random surfing, frequent texts a few phone calls and a couple hours of music. I have gotten 40 hours with 25% left on the battery, with minimal use(face first on the couch after new years for 2 days) liberty throws up the high cell standby in battery usage but I don't believe it, I think its a reporting error. Other roms have had the same battery life without the high cell standby. I've found an apparent way to fix it(apparently) although its giving me some issues. Anyways, long story short, any rom should give you an improvment over stock with liberty and steel droid being the favourites
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Much appreciated.
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I don't know why but it kills my battery life and I am dead by like 5. It is just a suggestion take it or leave it.
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I use DarkDroid and I get a solid 19+ hours of moderate/heavy use. I also use an 1800mAH extended, a little less than the Motorola 1930, but it works. This is the only ROM that I've NEVER had a problem with.
Also, if you don't like web based Apps like FB running in the background, try using the mobile web site and see how your battery life improves. Sounds lame, but it's better than keeping it syncing all day.
Personally, I'm still on stock and I don't mind. I have too many opportunities to charge throughout the day. I am eager to use CM9, but that's the only ROM I'll switch to. I have edited my build.prop to only scan wifi at 300, so that probably helps.
OP, I'd suggest using Tasker to help keep certain radios off at times when you don't need them. I have a profile which can turn off mobile data while I'm connected to wifi (at home I have poor data signal, which strains the battery by always looking for a different tower). Also, you can set up profiles to turn off wifi when not in a preferred cell tower range. So, if you are connected on your home tower, it will automatically scan wifi, then turn it off when you leave. It uses your regular phone signal, so wifi can stay off when you're not at work, school, home, friends house, etc. This is a bit more complicated to set up, but Tasker has many profiles ready for download on their wiki, which you can access from within the app. It's a paid app, but definitely worth it.
Also, you can have screen brightness turn up or down based on cell tower, or other conditions, to help in that regard.
Good luck and enjoy!
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Also, if you don't like web based Apps like FB running in the background, try using the mobile web site and see how your battery life improves. Sounds lame, but it's better than keeping it syncing all day.
Personally, I'm still on stock and I don't mind. I have too many opportunities to charge throughout the day. I am eager to use CM9, but that's the only ROM I'll switch to. I have edited my build.prop to only scan wifi at 300, so that probably helps.
OP, I'd suggest using Tasker to help keep certain radios off at times when you don't need them. I have a profile which can turn off mobile data while I'm connected to wifi (at home I have poor data signal, which strains the battery by always looking for a different tower). Also, you can set up profiles to turn off wifi when not in a preferred cell tower range. So, if you are connected on your home tower, it will automatically scan wifi, then turn it off when you leave. It uses your regular phone signal, so wifi can stay off when you're not at work, school, home, friends house, etc. This is a bit more complicated to set up, but Tasker has many profiles ready for download on their wiki, which you can access from within the app. It's a paid app, but definitely worth it.
Also, you can have screen brightness turn up or down based on cell tower, or other conditions, to help in that regard.
Good luck and enjoy!
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I prefer the mobile website fb to the app as i don't use it much.
Also juice defender paid version will do all you described, and probably easier to setup
Ok going to try and start a conversation here to get feedback from everyone on what you guys do to get the most out of your battery. I see alot of people always asking what kernal is best for battery life and some people seem to have horrible battery life and some have exceptional battery life. I personally get decent battery life. Nothing super amazing but that comes down to the way I use my phone.
My current battery I'm using - Andida 2000mah battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/280843217453...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_4497wt_1396
I also have - GTMax 3500mah battery
http://www.amazon.ca/GTMax-Extended-Battery-3500mAh-Microfiber/dp/B006VAP102/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_4
The Andida gives me generally a extra 2-3 hours more over the stock. I had to cycle the battery 4 times before I started seeing any real improvements. If I take these off the charger at 6:30am I can ussually make it to around 10pm without needing to charge.
The GTMax get me through a day (630am - midnight) with around 50% left.
Now keep in mind this is based on my usage habits, and when I'm at work my signal is horrible so it drains a bit harder for the 8 hours I'm at work.
I don't have LTE where I live or work, I do get LTE in areas close by but on a regular day I don't see it. With the bad signal at work I've started to switch to gsm only mode (phone was constantly switching from Edge to 3g/4g and wouldn't provide a stable connection most of the time). This seems to have helped my battery at work.
When I flash a new rom I always give it at least 2 good full battery cycles before judging the battery life on it.
Ok onto some apps. My first foray into getting better battery life started with wanting to control my data. I used Juice Defender to that but I found that having to wait for the data to turn back on was at some times taking way to long and even sometimes I would have to reboot to get it back. Tried a few others and had similar experiences. When it works its nice and I did see some gain from it but at the same time it seemed bloated and slow and I decided I like having my data on and readily available quickly. After some searching I found an awesome app...
Better Battery Stats
Play Store link - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats&hl=en
XDA Forum link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
I highly recommend reading up on this app and trying it out. If your seeing a big drain on you battery while the screen is off, it's probably because there is something that is keeping it from going into a deep sleep mode. This won't save you any battery just by installing it but with a little work it can make a pretty good difference.
Ok now this is where I'm looking for suggestions, are there apps that you find specifically run smoother or are lighter than their stock counterparts or rival apps that put less of a strain on the battery?
Instead of the stock messaging app I run Pansi SMS. It gives me a few extra options but I never really used the stock mms on ICS so I can only compare it to Handcent SMS and I think it is definitely lighter and a lil bit more battery friendly. It's not a huge difference but I try and squeeze everything I can w/o giving up functionality.
For a launcher I'm running apex right now, but for a lightweight launcher I'd recommend FTL. Runs really nice and smooth, nothing fancy about it, just fast and light.
Some apps sometimes can just be poorly coded and thus have a bad effect on battery life. Alot of people seem to feel the Facebook app is one such app that suffers from that. The app that gets the most recommendations as a replacement and being a bit easier on the battery is Friendcaster. I tend to agree with that, and would recommend trying it out.
I'd really like to hear about what everyone else does to try and squeeze out the most of their battery. Theres more stuff that I do, such as reducing the amount of things that are synced to only the stuff I actually want, default settings just sync everything and I don't feel I need to sync my contacts on a daily basis as I rarely change them around. So share your tips, experiences good and bad with apps in regards to your battery, and if theres enough feedback I'll try and re-organize this into a bit better structure.
I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.
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I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.
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Right here, this is the key. I have data off all the time. I only turn it on when I need to look something up or browse. IMO auto updates really kill the battery and aren't worth leaving your data on all the time. I'm on wifi a lot as well. Currently I'm on DarkRaider and I'm ending the day with around 30-40%, great improvement over stock.
It seems that with every new handset that comes out this is one of the hottest topics but the parameters all always the same with regard to battery life.
The 3 biggest things that drain our batteries are Display Usage, Data Connection & Radio Cell Connection. These are listed in order of current used. Of the 3 we can have some control over the 1st 2. Lower screen brightness and disconnect data when not needed and use wifi when possible. While wifi does use a good amount of current it's not as much as mobile data. The last one, Radio Cell Connection, we have very little control over. It's also the reason we see people having great differences in battery life. The further the phone is from the tower it's connected to the more juice it needs to make a good connection. So other than leaving the phone in airplane mode or planning your life around where towers are, neither of which are very practical, there is not much we can do there.
To get the best all around life from Li-ion batteries do not fully discharge them very often and also don't keep them plugged in after they're fully charged. It's best to recharge them when they get down to 20-30% and unplug them after they're charged. They also don't need to be fully charged every time, they have no memory. If your on the go and can only leave it plugged in for a short period of time that's fine. Also if you have more than one battery and your not going to use the 2nd one for a while don't store it at full charge. drop it down to 50-60% before pulling it out.
I'll update this post when I get home tonight with more info and links. Hope it helps.
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Right here, this is the key. I have data off all the time. I only turn it on when I need to look something up or browse. IMO auto updates really kill the battery and aren't worth leaving your data on all the time. I'm on wifi a lot as well. Currently I'm on DarkRaider and I'm ending the day with around 30-40%, great improvement over stock.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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I personally always leave data off. WiFi is on a lot. I wrote this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631831
I am very please to get a day and a half with the extended battery. Generally I am always texting,also.
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With my 3500mah battery I don't really worry about turning anything off. That thing is great. Made a bumper case for it but I miss having a real case on it so I picked up the 2000mah andida battery so I could get a few more hours on some days. If someone ever made a real case for those big batteries i'd use it all the time.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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Try 2x Battery from the store. It will shut off data as soon as the the phone sleeps, it reconnects at screen on after unlock almost instantly. It also allows you to white list apps, like Pandora. The free version only allows 1 app though.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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The DarkRaider ROM I am using has a nice extended settings menu in the notification bar with a data toggle. I also have a nice widget from switchpro widgets where I can customize what kinds of things I want to be able to toggle from my homescreen. Currently I have data/wifi/vibrate-silent/gps. Doesn't take long at all when I toggle the data on/off, it's pretty much instant.
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I always make sure my auto updates are off. WiFi isn't an option for me when I'm working. How do you manage your data connection? Do you manually turn it on and off or use an app? I never really tried manually turning the mobile data on/off, just found with apps like JD that it sometimes took way too long to establish a connection. I always shut off my wifi when I leave for work. I know with ICS the widget toggles for gps don't work, they take you to the settings to turn it off, is there one for mobile data?
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I use the 2X Battery app. When the phone goes to sleep, the app turns off the data radio. I can still get calls and text messages. I don't have a need for push notification of e-mail, etc., so this saves me some battery usage. Of course, if e-mail and other app notifications are important, this app will help only if you are willing to wait until you wake up the phone.
Here's what I do. I'm on the stock HTC battery.
I SetCPU screen off to 192/192 ondemand, in call to 810/192 ondemand, and regular use to 810/192 ondemand.
I listen to about 2 hours of music a day, have 3 GMail accounts on autosync, a Facebook account on hourly autosync and HTC Weather on hourly sync. Automatic brightness. Roughly 1.5 hours of cumulative web-browsing, no apps/games used.
I never use WiFi and I don't live in an LTE area.
I typically end the day (19-21 hours unplugged) with ~40% remaining.
Now I am not sure if living in area with LTE is a bless or curse....
I would unplug around 7am everyday, and by the time I get home (around 6pm) I would always in red mode (meaning, it is either 14% or under). Using the Holics-0.6 with the kernel that came with it, battery seems to die fast. Even when I am on the stock ICS before this, seems LTE would just bleed this baby to death....
Reading other comments, might as well start looking for a bigger battery....
It actually seems like I'm getting better battery since LTE came to my town. I'm on dark raider using kozmick's rc1 kernel and it's even better now. Try turning off vibration feedback...I think it's located in the sounds menu in settings. You can also try using automatic brightness or even just setting it to stay at 50% or lower. The screen is a battery hog. There's a stickied thread somewhere on here that has other things you can try too.
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Really is a shame that we have to disable or ease everything back so much to get through the day on a battery. Anyhow, I have a Velocity (which comes out of the box with the processor running at 1500) on Dark Raider. Therefore I use SetCPU to throttle the beast back, depending upon the circumstances. It only is allowed to run at 1500 when on charge and down to 400 when battery below 25 percent. I also use 2X Battery to take care of the netowrk and Wi-Fi and have purchased the andida battery for extended life. I also have JD installed, however it is rarely used - reason is that I am in agreeance with "citsong" that it takes too long to establish connections, even causing me general connection issues from time to time. So for around $25 AUD you can get through the day on a battery with moderate use and reasonable performance. I have not tried the extended battery pack, though I will probably get one of those as well...not sure which are the best???
I personally don't like the vibrate response thing, so I turn that off right out of the box, also, auto brightness is another that I set. When I go in the battery tab to see what is bleeding it to death, and most of it would be the display....
Though, vivid seem to have a smaller battery compared to other phones of similar functions and/or size, so that might be the reason I am not really seeing a very good battery life?
deathnai said:
I personally don't like the vibrate response thing, so I turn that off right out of the box, also, auto brightness is another that I set. When I go in the battery tab to see what is bleeding it to death, and most of it would be the display....
Though, vivid seem to have a smaller battery compared to other phones of similar functions and/or size, so that might be the reason I am not really seeing a very good battery life?
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Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
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Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
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My solution was to get a larger battery (2100mAh, the largest one with stock format) and using juice defender to control my Data Connection. I am getting about 60% more using time on a normal usage whan before!
I actually have both Motorola Atrix 2 and HTC Vivid. However, my Atrix 2 would last about two days between charges, which is kind of weird. I have my personal account and company account on that phone (personal is to activate the google stuff), so it eats up data twice as fast, yet it is almost twice as long battery life.
And to update a little bit from my post before, it seems I am getting better battery life now, after 4-5 days of flashing the new ROM, let's hope it is true....or I am just going to go hunt for a bigger battery
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Actually there are only a couple phones that have a larger battery...
The galaxy note and the atrix are the ones that come to mind...
And the note has a larger screen and Samsung's rediculious samoled screen which eats battery like potato chips...
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Actually, the Samsung Galaxy Note is way bigger than either Atrix or Vivid, so with a bigger body, I would assume that a bigger battery is possible. But if you look at current phones, I rarely see batteries that are above, say, 1800mAh, let alone 2000mAh and above, stock of course.
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My solution was to get a larger battery (2100mAh, the largest one with stock format) and using juice defender to control my Data Connection. I am getting about 60% more using time on a normal usage whan before!
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Could you share the details on the battery?
Andida batteies are easily found on Ebay, but beware of Chinese fakes!! I got mine from a seller in Canada, all good.
I get good battery life by turning off data while I'm working . 70% with 8hrs unplugged
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So yes this Phone's battery unfortuanatly is not well at all.. but here is how i managed mine to last a day without charging. Let me also say im a heavy user also. I text A LOT and always pull out my phone in class play a few games to pass the time or just browse my phone. So this does work for heavy / light users.
Go to Wifi/ menu / advanced and click never on Keep wifi on during sleep.
Go to settings/ Location access - Switch to off
For your brightness it will be on Auto switch that off and put it almost to the lowest as you dont really need it high just kills the battery.
- Go to the App store and download Easy Battery savor. When you access the app choose intiligent mode. It really helps !
-Dont ever use live wallpaper it just drains it so fast.
- DOwnload Faux App It really helps (Faux kernel Enhancement Project) Once downloaded go to CPU and set max clock to 1.35 instead of 1.5. it will still be buttery smooth and it will drain the battery less.
Also I am using the Franco Kernel - nightly #53 which in my opinion really helps !
- Try to turn off the WiFi usage as much as possible and you will see a huge difference.
That's all from me guys. By doing all this my battery significantly improved and lasts about a day now.
Anyways if you have better solutionson how you manage your battery and how you extend its life.
- post pictures
- post the apps you use
- post everything !
Thank you !
I use harsh. Whenever I don't game, I lower the max freq to just 810mhz, ondemand, row, mpdecision on (as harsh recommended) and it's still buttery smooth, and of course battery life is incredible, and I also do check the Disable HW Overlays and Force GPU in 2d rendering. And since no kernel controlling apps are needed, my phone feels cleaner too I can't upload battery stats yet as I'm in an area with only edge connectiom and I hate using slow internet connections
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Hi.
I think that autobrigthness it's very hard in all phones. It would be an app Download the brightness.
Bye.
In my testing having wifi connected(like ay home and not going saves more battery, this been texted in several android devices including gs3,note 2 and iOS like 4S and iPads, just giving some info
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Why dont you buy an old nokia since you almost get rid of all the cool stuff this phone offers? Brightness to lowest level...that cracked me up lol
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A couple of things I noticed with this. The first thing I notice is, in two of your screenshots, you appear to have mobile data disabled completely. The second thing I noticed is that your final screenshot shows 24hr 52 min on battery, yet according to your clock, a it should really be a total of 33hr 6 min since unplugged. Your first screenshot shows 88% battery remaining with it already having been unplugged for 7hr 35 min. With that screenshot showing a time of 3:11pm, that would mean your phone was unplugged at 7:36am. If the phone was unplugged at 7:36am, then how is it only showing a total of 24hr 52min at 4:42pm the next day? It should be showing 33hr 6min. That's an odd inconsistency there. All in all, even with the data that is showed in your screenshot, it shows very little use as phone idle and cell standby are both in your top 5. Your screen was your highest drain, yet there isn't anything else there accompanying it. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that all you did was keep the data turned off on your phone, and connect to wifi where available. You turned your screen on, but didn't really do anything with the phone besides having the screen just on. That said, even stock with no changes, a person can get 24 hours on a charge if they're disabling their phone and not using it.
Interesting tips however I have a few points:
Your first tip suggests having WiFi to Never stay connected during sleep. I am part of another Android forum which deals with tablets. We tested this feature as with a tablet, you are likely to leave it for hours on end before using it again. It was excellent if the tablet was not touched, however we noticed that it significantly increased the battery drain if you were regularly switching between sleep and using it.
Agree with the second but don't throw away practicality, use Location settings when they need to be use, not just turn them off and don't use them.
Leave it on auto-brightness dude, why ruin the nice visuals of a fantastic screen by having it so dark you can't see it? I only ever use lowest brightness when its dark or the battery is nearly dead.
No idea about the battery saver.
I definitely disagree with this. If you use 3G permanently, like I do, then turning on WiFi definitely reduces battery drain. I don't turn off data ever, so switching WiFi where possible is quite a useful battery saving technique.
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Interesting tips however I have a few points:
Your first tip suggests having WiFi to Never stay connected during sleep. I am part of another Android forum which deals with tablets. We tested this feature as with a tablet, you are likely to leave it for hours on end before using it again. It was excellent if the tablet was not touched, however we noticed that it significantly increased the battery drain if you were regularly switching between sleep and using it.
Agree with the second but don't throw away practicality, use Location settings when they need to be use, not just turn them off and don't use them.
Leave it on auto-brightness dude, why ruin the nice visuals of a fantastic screen by having it so dark you can't see it? I only ever use lowest brightness when its dark or the battery is nearly dead.
No idea about the battery saver.
I definitely disagree with this. If you use 3G permanently, like I do, then turning on WiFi definitely reduces battery drain. I don't turn off data ever, so switching WiFi where possible is quite a useful battery saving technique.
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His solution is to turn off connectivity and functionality on the phone. That defeats the purpose of even having the phone at all.
That said, I think a safe UC of maybe 200MHz can have a difference, but to me, it's all about enjoying the phone and the phone experience. No need to screw with it
Don't do the wifi feature. It will use more battery because it will constantly have to reconnect to the wifi connection every time your phone comes out of sleep mode and that will consume more battery.
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Don't do the wifi feature. It will use more battery because it will constantly have to reconnect to the wifi connection every time your phone comes out of sleep mode and that will consume more battery.
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Crisis, I pointed that out above...
Someone tell me how I can go all day AND listen to 8 hours of Bluetooth audio and I will be impressed.
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So yes this phone battery unfortunately is not well at all.
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Just curious, why did you buy it then? Personally, I'm leaving everything on because I bought the phone for the looks and usability.
And yes, the phone lasts me all day while using it for everything including emails, conference calls, web browsing etc.
I've set up profiles using the Smart Profiles app to quickly turn things on and off at will - hit CAR and bluetooth/GPS turn on, Wifi turns off. Hit HOME and the reverse happens, etc.
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I've set up profiles using the Smart Profiles app to quickly turn things on and off at will - hit CAR and bluetooth/GPS turn on, Wifi turns off. Hit HOME and the reverse happens, etc.
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Same thing here..but I use scripts When I'm in school and all I need my phone for is some tethering and music, I activate my script that sets the max freq to just 810mhz and I undervolt an extra -50mv from the stock undervoltages of harsh, but when I'm out and away, I enjoy the full 1.5ghz quadcore beast trapped inside my pocket
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Don't get me wrong, it's useful to have a decent battery life, but I really don't see the need to turn the device into an expensive brick. My suggestions, which may or may not be better than the ones in the OP, but they seem to work for me on every Android I've come across without screwing with undervolting etc:
1. Turn Auto-Sync off, or increase the duration between each sync. On my old phone, the phone would use Auto-Sync every hour or so which totally killed the battery over the course of day. I turned it off and would sync it manually (taking all of 15 seconds) on a Friday. Made a huge difference, although simply increasing the time between syncs is just as effective if not more so as you still save a bit of time (might opt for that myself :good
2. Use Inverted Apps on SAMOLED, Don't use Inverted Apps on IPS, white colour uses more battery on SAMOLED, but a lot less on IPS :fingers-crossed:
3. Get yourself a Toggle-based Notification bar, you will remember to switch off your WiFi when walking around in public. To that end, switch your WiFi off unless you are connected to a hotspot, the constant scanning will drain your battery and depending on the interval may take quite a large hit over the course of a day. If you rely on WiFi then maybe increase the scan interval time.
4. Turn off all mobile networking services when in a known signal blackspot. e.g. When work pays for us to go to a hotel on the Welsh border in Cheshire, there is absolutely no signal guaranteed unless you go to the end of the driveway, so I turn off all phone services unless I am there. Your phone will drink your battery very quickly otherwise, guaranteed. The easy solution is to use WhatsApp, switch your phone onto Airplane mode then turn on WiFi and connect to a hotspot (if they have one available, hotels usually do). This is surprisingly low on battery consumption.
So basically, just leave my phone in my pocket and not use it. Okay. Gotcha.
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chancy319 said:
So basically, just leave my phone in my pocket and not use it. Okay. Gotcha.
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My battery life is amazing. I guess it just depends on what you compare it to. I had an evo 3d before, and my 3d would be dead by noon without even turning on the screen. My work blackberry lasts 5 days with fairly heavy email usage.
My N4 though, I use it fairly often for browsing, occasional calls throughout the day, streaming audio, this and that. After 12 hours of use I am still at 60% usually. From 7am to 5:30 (typically when i get out of work) I will be at 70%+
Not sure why people are so bent out of shape about it...
On my 3d if I ran facebook app or any stupid **** like that it would kill my battery like i didnt even have one.
Here's another idea get a job or pay attention in school. That will save battery life as well. I have literally seen people stare at a screen without doing anything with the phone, just because they are so obsessed with it being in their hand
Oh and my Sig does not represent the nexus in the mail
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What about those external battery things? Does anyone know where I can find some decent ones online?