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Is there anyway to start Astro as root so you can use it to edit system directories?
I had wished for the same thing.. but i didnt tell nobody.. soo maybe this will be more effective. prevents having to type in the terminal all the time.. not that its bad.. ive learned so much allready since ive had this phone...
I totally agree! That would be perfect! Maybe there a way of editing the code or smth...
If you can't work *MORE EFFICIENTLY* directly from the terminal, then you definitely should NOT have root access via GUI.
lbcoder said:
If you can't work *MORE EFFICIENTLY* directly from the terminal, then you definitely should NOT have root access via GUI.
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Pretty much this. It seems like most of the people having problems on this website just want root because it's "kewl" but really have no idea what it is or even have a clue on how Linux works.
I actually Emailed the Dev of Astro about this same question and here was his reply.
Here is the email copied and pasted from gmail.
My question
Are you able to make a version that requests root access to delete chmod rename move etc for the 100,000+ users from xda and other boards with root access?
His Reply
On Jan 21, 2009 10:57 AM, "Kevin Payne" <metago.inc[at]gmail> wrote:
This is a bit outside ASTRO's scope at the moment. Technically, ASTRO should work fine on files owned by root if it were run as a root process, but running applications as root is not advised in general. Someone really needs to create a sudo type command to let an individual application run as root.
lbcoder said:
If you can't work *MORE EFFICIENTLY* directly from the terminal, then you definitely should NOT have root access via GUI.
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d00m said:
Pretty much this. It seems like most of the people having problems on this website just want root because it's "kewl" but really have no idea what it is or even have a clue on how Linux works.
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Considering the fact that I'm a Systems Administrator as my profession and work with hundreds of Linux/Unix/Windows servers a day, the whole reason why I bought the G1 was for development and tinkering, the fact that my home PC is running Vista x64 (i haven't gotten around to creating a VM or messing with the drivers), and that I do wipes frequently to test different configurations, I'm pretty sure I'll be ok with root access. I'm just tired of manually doing something on that tiny keyboard that can easily be done with a nice pretty GUI. I stare at consoles all day and thousands of lines of black and white text, when I come home I don't exactly want to be anywhere near a terminal.
Also, why bother doing anything on a phone, other than using it as a phone (or for email, texting, etc.), if you don't do it because it's "kewl". I mess with my phone because it's cool to have a mini-*nix based computer with several fun radios on it. If I do something stupid like type "rm -Rf /*" after logging in as root (never going to happen) then that's my own fault.
I don't care if you're a Unix purist and you write up your office reports, spreadsheets, and diagrams in vi. Good for you, you're wasting time that can be better spent on other things because of your stubborn prejudice against GUI's. I asked a question, because I have a reason for that question. If you don't have any answers to that question, then please don't bother replying.
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I actually Emailed the Dev of Astro about this same question and here was his reply.
Here is the email copied and pasted from gmail.
My question
Are you able to make a version that requests root access to delete chmod rename move etc for the 100,000+ users from xda and other boards with root access?
His Reply
On Jan 21, 2009 10:57 AM, "Kevin Payne" <metago.inc[at]gmail> wrote:
This is a bit outside ASTRO's scope at the moment. Technically, ASTRO should work fine on files owned by root if it were run as a root process, but running applications as root is not advised in general. Someone really needs to create a sudo type command to let an individual application run as root.
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I looked into the commands to launch an application from the CLI and found that Astro can be started using the following command:
am start -n com.metago.astro/.FileManagerActivity
However, this doesn't do us any good, since the dalvik VM will take that command and create a process as a sandbox user regardless of what user executes that command. There looks like there's a way to tell the VM to fork the process as a specific uid and gid, but that requires editing the AndroidManifest.xml.
I'm not too good with Java, and I don't know how strict Android's API is, so I don't know if running an apk application as root is even possible.
However, I do know that running commands from inside an application, like su, is possible.
~TM
"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something." ~Plato
Solved--Astro with root...(workaround)
kinda late, but in case anyone wants to know this is what I did.
This way technically doesnt allow astro to run with root, but its just as good.
I originally did this a few months back for my G1, and just mod it a little to work on my nexus
- created a script to mount system as rw
- created a script that gives r/w permission to all app directories (/data, /data/app, /data/app-private, /system, /system/app, /system/sd, ...) and all apps inside those directories
-then merged the 2 scripts and named it astro_root_perm
-installed GScript from the market
-created another script that
-first changes all permissions on apps back to what they started as(644, 640...)-then changes permissions of directories back to what they were-and finally remounts system back to ro, and named this script to astro_basic_perm
-used Gscript to create shortcuts of the 2 scripts to my home screen.
-then with bettercut, I changed the scripts' icons to the astro icon. I just colored the astro stock icons "A" green for one script and red for the other
So anytime I want to use astro as root, I just click the shortcut I made with gscript off my home screen, open astro,
Then when Im done with astro, I just run the other script
I know its not the same as running astro AS root, but it works for me.
Im not really a linux guy......I'd really appreciate if someone could help me with this next step
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Does anyone know what I need to include in a script to have it call/open a program automatic?
My ultimate goal is to create one script that will
Mount system rw
Change needed permissions to rw
Automatically open up Astro
Then change all permissions back when astro is terminated
Possibly create a keyboard shortcut for the G1
What do ya think?? is it possible??
Estrongs has limited root file browsing on some ROMs and SU File Manager or Root File Manager will let you browse as root for a small price.
+1 recommendation on Estrongs File Explorer's root option if you want it for free, includes Windows shares browsing over lan.
Otherwise try SUFBS, also has built-in terminal.
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louieG1 said:
My ultimate goal is to create one script that will
Mount system rw
Change needed permissions to rw
Automatically open up Astro
Then change all permissions back when astro is terminated
Possibly create a keyboard shortcut for the G1
What do ya think?? is it possible??
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I'm not sure exactly how gscript handles things, but with a normal bash (shell) script, the lines are run sequentially. That is, the next line isn't run until the previous line is done. It would seem that you could put all that in one script, and the still-running script wouldn't change the permissions back until astro has ended. But then again, java adds complexity to it and I'm not sure if it works the same.
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kinda late, but in case anyone wants to know this is what I did.
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Does anyone know what I need to include in a script to have it call/open a program automatic?
My ultimate goal is to create one script that will
Mount system rw
Change needed permissions to rw
Automatically open up Astro
Then change all permissions back when astro is terminated
Possibly create a keyboard shortcut for the G1
What do ya think?? is it possible??
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Love this idea! Unfortunatly I'm no coder but would love to see something like this created.
I created a "GodMode" script that does exactly this, email me if you want it, I can edit it to work for the G1.
Totally forgot I started this thread, then happened to find it on Google when looking for the same thing, again.
Went back to Windows Mobile for a little bit, missed Android, and now have a Samsung Vibrant.
Still want a way to use ASTRO with root priviledges, especially since I don't have a tactile keyboard anymore.
phaelox said:
+1 recommendation on Estrongs File Explorer's root option if you want it for free, includes Windows shares browsing over lan.
Otherwise try SUFBS, also has built-in terminal.
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Thank you.
Estrongs File Explorer enabled me to flash Tamil font in my Rooted T-Mobile G2X mobile phone.
I know i am not answering the question directly. But, i use Linda Manager it gets the job done.
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raddy said:
Thank you.
Estrongs File Explorer enabled me to flash Tamil font in my Rooted T-Mobile G2X mobile phone.
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Hi raddy,
I'm also from TN as well, i would love to get the Tamil fonts. Can you please guide me?
Not having tamil fonts on the browser is simply annoying
Hi
If your mobile is rooted, then follow this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798380
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raddy said:
Hi
If your mobile is rooted, then follow this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798380
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
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Cool, i got the tamil fonts on my G1, thanks for the help.
Anyone have this apk that would work for JF's builds?
Just take it from one of the magic roms. It works fine on my g1
Not to savy on how to do that little help please?
Joeriginal said:
Not to savy on how to do that little help please?
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I have uploaded attached it for you. However I've not tested it but I see no reason to why it shouldnt work.
Just so you know, this isn't a normal installation apk. In order to install it you're gonna have to move it to /data/app through a terminal with superuser permissions. i.e. through terminal emulator:
su
mv /sdcard/teeter.apk /data/app
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Just so you know, this isn't a normal installation apk. In order to install it you're gonna have to move it to /data/app through a terminal with superuser permissions. i.e. through terminal emulator:
su
mv /sdcard/teeter.apk /data/app
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It says it fails cause of something cross-linked I have apps to sd, how would I install this through terminal
Keeps force closing.
Joeriginal said:
It says it fails cause of something cross-linked I have apps to sd, how would I install this through terminal
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I get the same thing. Cant move it over to /system/sd/app
EDIT: Had to do it via adb shell
Wow I had it install straight up as soon as xmoo released the /system folder of the magic. I didn't need to use adb & its on my sdcard
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It says it fails cause of something cross-linked I have apps to sd, how would I install this through terminal
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Has anyone been able to install this app via the terminal emulator if so will you post the commands? I have been searching around for quite a while and I still can't find it. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
hello i too am having problems installing apk. tried to install from adb but got same error and force close. can someone point me in the right direction? thanks
You need the HTC frameworks and a ramdisk that puts them into the BOOTCLASSPATH. My CM2-ADP build has this (and Teeter). I doubt you'll get it working on a US firmware, though, because you can't change the BOOTCLASSPATH without breaking the preinstalled apps.
ok got it. I did try your build yesterday but had too many problems with the camera and video force closing. didnt see any real proformance change from jf1.51 either maybe need to update spl.
thank for the answer.
I found the teeter that can be installed using a regular installer app like Lindas. Its off the sapphire build. It does work but it is rather buggy on the g1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494533
Sorry, wrong thread
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UL4HK3DZ
heres another apk
I have a rooted G1 and wondering how i can keep from uninstalling certain 3rd party apps. I have SUFBS installed and thought there was a way to do this within.
Thanks for your help!
What exactly do you mean; you haven't given a scenario where they would be uninstalled, so from the information given, simply do not uninstall them, and they will stay on your phone.
Pardon the lack of detail included in my first post. I want to have certain 3rd party apps behave as system apps, where you are unable to uninstall from the Manage Applications screen. I am thinking that moving these files to the system/apps folder would do the trick. But I've been unsuccessful using SUFSB.
So, to sum it up:
How can I remove the Uninstall option of a 3rd party app from the Manage Applications screen.
I hope there's enough info for some helpful answers.
Thanks to all!
you can try in the recovery console
Code:
mount system
mv /system/sd/appname.apk (or whatever it is called) /system/app/
(if mv doesn't work try cp)
i do not know whether or not that will make them uninstallable or not, but it should do what you are asking about getting them into the /system partition.
Thanks David! Worked like a charm
just don't put to much in /system bc if you do and you flash a rom or theme that puts extra stuff into system it coud result in the rom not loading and you getting a black screen
(like the problem i am having right now of trying to make a theme fit into the confines of the hard spl, i even set one of my phones back to rc-29 and re-rooted so i could test it, ugh... long night)
Thanks once again for your educated response. I will keep that in mind for future use.
Best,
mark
no problem man, just remember if you need to delete anything from /system and don't have a file browser with root access you can do this in the recovery console
Code:
mount /system
rm /system/app/appname.apk
reboot
If you move them to system/app I don't think you'll recieve updates from the market.
AdrianK said:
If you move them to system/app I don't think you'll recieve updates from the market.
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oh yeah i forgot about that. thanks adriank
What if?
Hey guys, I noticed that the problem was solved, but I had a doubt. Will the app which has been moved to /system/apps still be there even if someone flashes another ROM?..
... if you think a bit about what's happening when you install a new ROM, you'll find the answer by yourself easily
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I've searched around a bit (maybe not as long as I should've), but I don't see how to remove the stock bloatware apps that come with this phone.
Can someone point me to a guide, or give me a quick run down?
Flapjack said:
I've searched around a bit (maybe not as long as I should've), but I don't see how to remove the stock bloatware apps that come with this phone.
Can someone point me to a guide, or give me a quick run down?
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Its a pain lol. Theres so many i just gave up lol (fyi they don't take up much space)
This is the code :
Code:
adb shell
su
rm /system/app/<apk name>
pm uninstall <package name>
Just download Titanium Backup form Android Market and you can delete apks easily. HTH.
Daneshm90 said:
Its a pain lol. Theres so many i just gave up lol (fyi they don't take up much space)
This is the code :
Code:
adb shell
su
rm /system/app/<apk name>
pm uninstall <package name>
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Yeah, it does seem like a PITA.
antz88c said:
Just download Titanium Backup form Android Market and you can delete apks easily. HTH.
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Maybe I'll try that. Do you have to actually do a backup/restore process before you can remove them? Or can you just remove them from the app itself?
antz88c said:
Just download Titanium Backup form Android Market and you can delete apks easily. HTH.
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You could do that but then ur left with a /data/data folder for ur app and its name under packages.xml.
The other thing that kills me is that a lot of these apps keep popping up for now reason. I run "Advanced Task Killer" on a frequent basis, but I'll find apps like "Slacker" sitting there, taking up memory.
I know a lot of these apps are set to run on startup.... but why are they just starting up at random times?
I feel like I have so little control over this phone... it actually scares me. I knew everything my WinMo phone was doing at all times.
Daneshm90 said:
You could do that but then ur left with a /data/data folder for ur app and its name under packages.xml.
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Can these items just be deleted?
I went to Samsung Firmwares and got the UGJG8 firmware and flashed that using Odin and 512.pit. You will get a 100% bone stock i9000m with no bloatware.
Just remember to write down your current APN settings as you will have to readd them.
antz88c said:
Just download Titanium Backup form Android Market and you can delete apks easily. HTH.
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Call me an idiot, but I can't figure out who to remove apps with this app.
Flapjack said:
Can these items just be deleted?
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They could but that would be longer, since ud have to go through packages.xml to look for ur app. In simple terms :
Its like uninstall a windows software. Your deleting its c:\program files directory whereas im going to "uninstall software" and following procedure.
BobbyTee said:
I went to Samsung Firmwares and got the UGJG8 firmware and flashed that using Odin and 512.pit. You will get a 100% bone stock i9000m with no bloatware.
Just remember to write down your current APN settings as you will have to readd them.
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How in the heck do you find that? I've been all over the Samsung site and I can only find are Windows drivers.
**EDIT**
Nevermind, I found it on another site. I think this is what you meant, right?:
http://samsung-firmwares.com/i9000.htm
Also, what is the difference between the I9000DTJG4 and the I9000UGJG8 firmware?
Daneshm90 said:
They could but that would be longer, since ud have to go through packages.xml to look for ur app. In simple terms :
Its like uninstall a windows software. Your deleting its c:\program files directory whereas im going to "uninstall software" and following procedure.
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Got it.
Now, is that a script I need to write for each app? I haven't even gone so far as to explore the file system, let alone write scripts. Is there a good (recommended) app for putting scripts together? ...or are you just using a notepad type editor in Windows, then copying them over via SD card?
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Got it.
Now, is that a script I need to write for each app? I haven't even gone so far as to explore the file system, let alone write scripts. Is there a good (recommended) app for putting scripts together? ...or are you just using a notepad type editor in Windows, then copying them over via SD card?
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Sure u can write a quick .bat script that does this or manually enter them in command-prompt up 2 u. Btw, what exactly is ur issue with the bloat-software ? is it the space its taking up ? or being shown in app drawer ? Cuz if ur using launcher-pro u can hide those apps from the drawer. Honestly they don't take up tht much space.
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Sure u can write a quick .bat script that does this or manually enter them in command-prompt up 2 u. Btw, what exactly is ur issue with the bloat-software ? is it the space its taking up ? or being shown in app drawer ? Cuz if ur using launcher-pro u can hide those apps from the drawer. Honestly they don't take up tht much space.
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Well, the biggest thing is that they're actually running without me opening them (eg: Slacker). That is really starting to piss me off. Secondly, they are very clutter-some. I don't have Launcher Pro, though I've heard good things about it. Is this something I get from the Marketplace? It runs instead of the Samsung interface, right?
**EDIT**
Just found "LauncherPro" on the Market. Looks good, but many are complaining the latest version is laggy/buggy and has obnoxious ad placement.
Does anyone have the next most recent version?
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Well, the biggest thing is that they're actually running without me opening them (eg: Slacker). That is really starting to piss me off. Secondly, they are very clutter-some. I don't have Launcher Pro, though I've heard good things about it. Is this something I get from the Marketplace? It runs instead of the Samsung interface, right?
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Nope its independent of proprietary frameworks, i.e it runs on stock.
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Nope its independent of proprietary frameworks, i.e it runs on stock.
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So would this be ok to install right now, or wait until I possibly flash the bone-stock firmware (which ironically would eliminate the included apps)?
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So would this be ok to install right now, or wait until I possibly flash the bone-stock firmware (which ironically would eliminate the included apps)?
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Nope it'll run on ANY proprietary/nonproprietary android firmware which is 2.0+
I just use root explorer and delete apk+odex from system/app
fua said:
I just use root explorer and delete apk+odex from system/app
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Can you go into a little more detail? What is odex?
Its fairly easy, actually.. No apps or code needed. Go to:
Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications
Press the menu button, and press Filter. Then change the selection to "All"
Hello
I'm waiting for my new Incredible S to arrive shortly and in the meantime I'm reading the user manual, I'm new to Android coming from Windows Mobile world.
Question: if I have backupped my applications to the memory card, in case of an hard reset, is there a way to reinstall them without passing through AppMarket? I have not found any File Explorer or Application Manager included in the ROM... are you obliged to connect to internet and download them?
Thanks
You can use Titanium Backup to back up and restore your apps.
They are not passed through the Android Market.
I do recall the app requires root, but that will be possible soon and is easy to do.
stefanospizzica said:
Hello
I'm waiting for my new Incredible S to arrive shortly and in the meantime I'm reading the user manual, I'm new to Android coming from Windows Mobile world.
Question: if I have backupped my applications to the memory card, in case of an hard reset, is there a way to reinstall them without passing through AppMarket? I have not found any File Explorer or Application Manager included in the ROM... are you obliged to connect to internet and download them?
Thanks
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Hi there, I hope you will enjoy android!
There is indeed no file explorer installed on the Incredible S.
And yes, you will have to register your google account to access the market to download a file explorer (Astro File Manager for example)
TimMun said:
Hi there, I hope you will enjoy android!
There is indeed no file explorer installed on the Incredible S.
And yes, you will have to register your google account to access the market to download a file explorer (Astro File Manager for example)
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Hi!
Thanks for your prompt answer! I suspected that after reading many threads on this matter. It seems a sort of limitation, I mean, having an SD card with your backup data and needs to connect to internet to download a file manager to install them..
But ok, this is the way it works
please use the ES File Manager .GO Android Market search "ES"
If you really wan't to avoid android market, you could usb adb (android debug bridge) to install titanium backup and then restore your apps. Or you could use adb to install certain apk's (apps are always .apk) you stored on your pc.
simple commands like
adb install C:\bla\bla\*.apk work like a charm
so if you download a filemanager, say "filemanager.apk".
you can give the command
adb install C:\bla\downloads\filemanager.apk
and it will install it on you phone after which you can acces all your files directly on your device.
You will need the SDK and some more info
If you want to use the adb, cd to \platform-tools\
But all this will be clear after a few hours of reading, trial and error
Welcome to Android.
DaanJordaan said:
If you really wan't to avoid android market, you could usb adb (android debug bridge) to install titanium backup and then restore your apps. Or you could use adb to install certain apk's (apps are always .apk) you stored on your pc.
simple commands like
adb install C:\bla\bla\*.apk work like a charm
so if you download a filemanager, say "filemanager.apk".
you can give the command
adb install C:\bla\downloads\filemanager.apk
and it will install it on you phone after which you can acces all your files directly on your device.
You will need the SDK and some more info
If you want to use the adb, cd to \platform-tools\
But all this will be clear after a few hours of reading, trial and error
Welcome to Android.
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Hello!
thanks for your info. I was actually playing with adb and see it is very powerful. But you need the pc connected to your phone of course and again it seems not a so comfortable solution. I find a little bit curious not having an application installer or file explorer embedded in the system.
About the backup, I know that Tytanium need root privileges, correct? As far as I know no root procedure are still available on Incredible S. But, will tytanium allow to select what you want to restore? Maybe root is not necessary is you want to restore your application and not system files
Thanks
stefanospizzica said:
Hello!
thanks for your info. I was actually playing with adb and see it is very powerful. But you need the pc connected to your phone of course and again it seems not a so comfortable solution. I find a little bit curious not having an application installer or file explorer embedded in the system.
About the backup, I know that Tytanium need root privileges, correct? As far as I know no root procedure are still available on Incredible S. But, will tytanium allow to select what you want to restore? Maybe root is not necessary is you want to restore your application and not system files
Thanks
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Yes, with titanium backup it is possible to select only certain apps that you wan't to restore.
It is indeed strange that HTC doesn't ship their android devices with a file manager, I recall my Hero didn't have one too. My Galaxy S does, although it's extremely basic.
I think after a few weeks when the first custom roms come out they will probably have a file manager installed in them. Until then I would recommend Linda Filemanager or OI Filemanager from the market, they are both free and quite powerful.
Cheers,
DaanJordaan
Regarding Titanium Root requirements. It does allow you to select between applications to restore, but the root check at start-up means you can't even access the backup/restore screen if your device isn't rooted.
It would be interested to see if a temproot is sufficient to restore certain apps. Something for me to try when i get home
As for the file manager... i think it was a concious decision to keep the device consumer focused. HTC has changed much in the last 2 years and definitely closed a lot of doors/windows they had open to devs and geeky consumers.
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Regarding Titanium Root requirements. It does allow you to select between applications to restore, but the root check at start-up means you can't even access the backup/restore screen if your device isn't rooted.
It would be interested to see if a temproot is sufficient to restore certain apps. Something for me to try when i get home
As for the file manager... i think it was a concious decision to keep the device consumer focused. HTC has changed much in the last 2 years and definitely closed a lot of doors/windows they had open to devs and geeky consumers.
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Hello
what does temproot means? How do you log on as temproot?
Let me know about your trial...
Thanks