http://techmaderelevant.blogspot.com/2011/05/htc-evo-3d-and-view-4g-preorders-are-go.html
Still uploading all my songs lol, but so far I'm loving it! Who got their invite?
Can you just post your review here instead of linking to your blog for hits?
Here ya go:
Google's cloud-based music service was announced at this year's I/O conference to much fanfare and no surprise. While rumors of a music store had been rampant for quite some time, that wasn't quite what we got. Yet. But enough talk about what is not present, here's a quick sneak peak into Google Music Beta!
Before I get into this review, I'd like to make 2 disclaimers. The first and most important is that this entire service is Beta. There are imperfections that will no doubt be addressed. The second is that this is really 2 sneak peaks: One for the webapp and uploader, one for the Android app. Now, the good stuff.
First up is the meat and potatoes: The web interface and uploader. The uploading is incredibly easy. After a quick download and install, the Music Manager will scan your computer for the music. To avoid getting the random sound effects on your computer, you can have it scan through iTunes, Windows Media Player, or specific folders. Everything is done in the background, so you don't need to pay attention to it at all. You can also have it automatically run upon start up, keeping this truly out of sight and out of mind. The average library has a lot of music, mine being about 19.5Gb of tunes. At the time of this writing, I'm at 387 track uploaded after a few hours in, so completing this task will take a long time. The good news is Google promises each user 20,000 songs. My 19.5Gb accounts for roughly 4,000 tracks. The one issue I have is that I use iTunes, which means I don't really keep track of what the files are actually named. Since many tracks have numbers in front, and as far as I can tell the Music Manager uploads in alphabetical order, some albums can't be listened to in full.
The web app will look very familiar if you've used the web version of the Android Market. Everything is very tab-centric, making it incredibly easy to use. On the left side, you have the traditional ways of sorting through your library (Songs, Artists, Albums, Genres). Under that you get to the mixes and playlists. The auto-playlists sort out the songs you've Thumbs Up'd, your recently added stuff, and the free music Google is giving out. There's not a lot of it, and it's mostly a song or two per artist, but it's nice to get free stuff.
There are two kinds of playlists. You have your traditional playlists that you custom make by drag-and-dropping songs. The Music Manager also pulls your playlists from iTunes, which is very cool. You can also create Instant Mixes (a la Genius Mixes from iTunes) from individual songs or albums, adding in similar jams. Along the bottom is the Now Playing bar with the familiar Play/Pause, track navigation, Shuffle, Repeat, and Volume controls. I think the Now Playing bar could be a bit thinner. The width of it and the banners at the top make the song and album lists seem a little cramped. While the overall look isn't as visually impressive as the Zune player, it looks a lot better than iTunes but still has the information that iTunes has. Overall it's a very easy to use service while still looking very nice.
Now the dessert. The Android app is very basic, almost to a fault. First thing's first, it works pretty well. It decided to scare me by force closing the first time I tried to play a song, but every time after it worked well. Songs take very little time to load up on WiFi, though it does take a little bit longer on 3G. Swiping left and right switches through album, artist, etc. views. When on the now playing screen, you see the album cover, Play/Pause, song and artist name. One cool thing is being able to make custom playlists in the Now Playing screen, though it would make more sense to be able to make Instant Mixes from this screen. Maybe we'll get that later. You can also download songs or albums from the Library view and Now Playing screen.
The main problem with the app is a visual one. It's just boring. Like really boring. You're given a blurry, boring background picture. There's no animation between screens, nothing. It's just blah. It would have made a lot more sense to keep the color scheme and overall feel of the web app, while tweaking it a bit for smaller screens. The other small problem is that the name of the app is Music. So is the stock music app for Android. While the icons are different, this can be a bit confusing. They should made it Google Music for differentiation.
The biggest problem facing Google Music is the complete lack of a store. Google Music, as it is now, is just cloud storage and streaming. What's weird is that in both the web and Android app, you can "shop for artist", but it just does a Google Shopping search for that artist where you can buy the songs from somewhere else. This may work for now, but it isn't a longterm solution when Amazon is offering very similar services. Google is trying to get the labels to get on board in some fashion, but how long it will take and in what form we'll get the music remains to be seen. I'm hoping for a subscription service, and knowing how Google does things (and a fair amount of rumors supporting this theory), it's very likely that that is what we'll get.
Overall, Google Music is the best solution to having too much music to fit on your phone. While I'm also a big fan of subscription services like Rdio, they just don't have everything I listen to. Amazon's cloud storage is good, but it lacks a well done web player and uploading your stuff is obnoxious. Google nailed the upload and web version for sure. Once they lock in the record deals and make the Android app visually appealing, Google Music may just be the best music solution yet.
Everybody outside of the USA should have a look at 4shared music in the android market.
The most underrated and probably best international cloud service around
Has anyone tried to play it through a different player like PowerAmp. I don't want to listen to music on a lesser player, not since I've heard the difference. Also, are the playlists recognized by other players like PowerAmp?
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got my beta invite today...yippe
got my invite but didnt see a download for the android app????
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got my invite but didnt see a download for the android app????
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You have to set up the app on your PC. There is a link from the music.google.com page near the top right for the android app.
For me, I think the biggest opportunity for the android app will be mire management features. Currently you cannot thumbs up it down a track from mobile, and you cannot delete one either. Also it does not appear to be updating the play count when tracks are played via the mobile app. Overall , the app feels more alpha tech demo than it does an actual beta.
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I would love to try this out but unfortunately my library is larger than 20,000 songs :/
i'm trying to figure out the best balance of bitrate and battery. my V0 mp3s eat battery. i think pandora streams at q.2 48kbps AAC. i'm trying out flac-->q.25 63kbps AAC right now.
i think slacker, pandora, and lastfm are all around 48kbps. this might be an agreement with mobile providers--they all stream higher bitrate to the desktop than mobile.
or maybe i should just use it as a locker, and download from it? can't imagine when i would need that. don't really see a good use for this yet. the only reason i would stream is for discovery or lazy mix, and those services don't sound great. if they were higher bitrate, they would eat battery.
All my music is either uploaded to amazon mp3 or on amazon's cloudshare storage. I wish there was a way to get the music over to google without downloading and then re-uploading.
q.25 aac (63kbps) sounds like doodoo. i guess i would only use google music when on a ac or car charger, so that i can afford to play higher bitrates
i don't know, maybe it's my phone's audio chip. the m4a files sound better on my pc than my phone. htc thunderbolt
Not to promote piracy, of course... HOWEVER, for those people who may not have purchased all of their MP3's, am I right in assuming it could turn into a legal issue if Google is asked by the RIAA or a law enforcement agency to turn over records?
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Not to promote piracy, of course... HOWEVER, for those people who may not have purchased all of their MP3's, am I right in assuming it could turn into a legal issue if Google is asked by the RIAA or a law enforcement agency to turn over records?
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no - uploading your files to the cloud and streaming to your device is not "sharing" copyrighted material. no matter how dubious your music sources may or may not be, there is nothing inherently illegal about accessing through the cloud. in fact, it is only the act of sharing/uploading/seeding copyrighted material that is illegal.
i think its prety sweet so far. abiltly to deleted tracks from phone and some better 3g speeds would make it that much better. Anyone have this on multiple phones?? downloaded the player from the market to put it on my wifes phone but it is not in the settings to add an account. downloaded mine from the market and it has a different options menu.
I'm enjoying it so far. I was previously using AudioGalaxy to stream my collection from my home pc to other devices, but I definitely prefer the cloud storage method.
Took roughly 40 hours to upload 5k songs, not too bad. Had to convert some files to aac, but not many. Ran into 1 glitch where the uploader claims that a few song files don't contain anything, which they clearly do.. still not quite sure how to fix that problem, but it's only on 4 songs that I never listen to, so not that big of a deal.
At the end of the day, big thumbs up from me.
Im in beta but no streaming
I'm in the beta, installed android app via beta invite link, uploaded music. but can not find a way to stream from the cloud to my android phone. HELP!
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I'm in the beta, installed android app via beta invite link, uploaded music. but can not find a way to stream from the cloud to my android phone. HELP!
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Check out "Settings" and there should be an option to link it to your Google Account. I linked it and it still wasn't streaming though. I rebooted my phone, but that didn't seem to work either. Then randomly, a day or two later, it spontaneously started showing my music to stream. YMMV...
Offline music question ...
Here is a question for the Google Music Beta experts ...
One thing I love about Google Music on my phone is the ability to pin music. This allows us to play the 'pinned' music even when there is no 3G or WIFI service. The way I manage my offline music is through a playlist I made called "My Favorites". I have this playlist pinned, so anytime I add new music to it, it will automatically download when I am connected to WIFI. The question I have is ... what happens if I removed songs from the pinned playlist? Will they be removed from my phone? Or do they stay on my phone? I am hoping they are removed. I would hate for my SD card to get filled up with songs that I don't care to be available when I am offline.
Thanks
I have 30k+ songs in my itunes library, how do I pick and choose which songs to add/delete?
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So I use iTunes to download podcasts (both audio and video) constantly. Can't live without it even
I want to dump my iPhone and swap to my Fuze full-time, but one of the major issues I'm having is finding a Podcast replacement. iTunes does a nice job in updating, downloading, and managing (auto-deleting) old podcasts. I actually have ~8GB in podcasts on my iPhone right now. So Podcasting is big for me for entertainment and news
I've found numerous solutions for just about everything else, but no one seems to have an easy answer for podcasting --
The closest I can think is setting WM to sync my podcast iTunes folder to my WM micro SD card (if that link is even possible) and then using windows mobile's interface to try and play them.
Does anyone have a better solution? Paid or free, it doesn't matter. I'm all for paying a one-time fee to download a nice podcast manager
Most Podcasts have a matching RSS feed and most RSS readers support the audio files contained in the feed. I personally use NewsBreak by Illium Software. OEM version is RSS hub. Which is floating around XDA and is cooked into a lot of the roms. It allows you to decide how many you want to keep of each feed as well so you don't overload your storage card.
I'm using Beyond Pod. It's free and works good.
I agree with rangie, Beyond Pod does a great job.
You can sync nearly any storage device w/ iTunes...
http://lifehacker.com/5273791/synchronize-nearly-any-storage-device-with-itunes
I use BeyondPod to catch podcasts, and Kinoma FreePlay to listen, but it took a few tries to get the settings right:
In BeyondPod, I set it to automatically turn on wifi and download new podcasts in the middle of the night, then turn off wifi an hour later. I think I have it set to keep podcasts for 9 days -- haven't found an equivalent to iTunes' ability to delete from a playlist once it's been listened to, but this works well enough.
I have every feed save the podcasts to the same folder. In Kinoma FreePlay, I have that folder saved as a favorite. That way, I can listen to podcasts in the car and go from one to the next, even in different feeds, without touching the phone.
With iTunes and an iPod, I could do all this much easier with a smart playlist. No such luck on WM, at least not with freeware.
So my father and step mother recently got new Android phone, they both got Evo 4G's. My father has been working non stop to get his wife's music and audio books setup so that it's really easy to make playlist, sync them, play them back, etc. He has used WMP, had issues with that, so I suggested DoubleTwist. He messed with it and didn't like the interface, felt that it wasn't that intuitive. I decided that I would actually mess with dT myself so that I could see if it was worth suggesting to others. I found it pretty easy to make playlist and sync them and stuff, but there is one major problem with it, it ignores track numbers. I can't get it to show me track numbers at all, and can't get it to organize track in an album by track number, and if I drag a whole album into it's own playlist, it organized in alphabetical order, I can't get it to play by track number.
Next, I decided to mess with Motorola Media Link. I never even got to the point of seeing if it will work with my N1 cause I couldn't get it to sort by album, or artist or whatever when I clicked on the column header like would happen in Windows explorer. I can accept Motorola Media Link opening in artist mode first, but I should then be able to click a song, then go and hit the album column header and it will keep the fist song selected and resort the song by album showing the other songs in the same album above and below the original selected song, but that did not happen.
I'm not even going to mess with WMP anymore as I feel that is utter s**t when it comes UI. Doubletwist makes making playlist easy, but ignores track numbers, Motorola Media link doesn't sort things properly. Are there no other truly intuitive, easy to use, fully featured media player/manager for Android devices. I feel that this is going to make it difficult for Android devices to truly win over the hearts of iPhone users, who phone's just work. As much as I hate Apple's communist control over their platform and hardware, you have to give them credit for making a phone that even the technologically inept can use and work without problems
What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
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What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
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That's what my father and I do for ourselves, but that's not a good solution for my step mother who's not good with that kind of stuff and really doesn't have any desire to learn that. The ultimate goal of all this is to make it as easy as possible for her so that she can do it all without having to ask my father how or have him do.
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I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
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Thanks, I'll send the info to my father and see if that works for him. He's still trying to find a solution for the audio books though. He's does some reading on the Audible Android app that's in beta and it appears to be having issues, so he's leery of installing it. But hopefully the music aspect will work for him.
Playlists and WMP
I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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i use fusion media player, excellent for making/viewing/playing playlists.
i dont know what format playlists are saved as, but the playlist i made in fusion works in other media players as well, like google play music, es media player, and stock gingerbread music player app.
i never even touched the playlist files, not move them, not edit or anything, idk where the file even is and my playlists work on all above mentioned players. enjoy!
The main gripe I hear about the Nexus S is the lack of an external SD card slot and how that effects the ability to use your phone as a music player.
Subsonic is the solution.
For those not familiar, Subsonic allows you to stream your entire music collection not only to any Flash-enabled web browser anywhere in the world, but to Android, iOS and Windows Phone 7 devices. The Android app automatically caches tracks you play so that they can be played back in offline mode if needed and also cuts down on bandwidth wasted on frequently played tracks. The cache size is adjustable.
An upcoming release of Subsonic will also allow video streaming.
As an added bonus, you can keep your music library in FLAC and it will be transcoded on the fly to MP3 as you stream.
The whole point of a microSD is to not have cloud-based services...
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The whole point of a microSD is to not have cloud-based services...
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Even if the NS did have a MicroSD slot, the largest available is 32GB. My music library is 300GB+ of mostly FLAC goodness. Deciding which albums I should have on hand at any given time and then transcoding them to something reasonable for a mobile device or having a complete duplicate library in lower bitrate MP3s and still swapping out albums manually is a PITA. This is not only a solution, but a solution with countless perks.
If 32GB is enough for you or you don't mind wasting your time, I suppose you can ***** about the lack of expandable storage and swim upstream against the proliferation of streaming services all you want.
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Even if the NS did have a MicroSD slot, the largest available is 32GB. My music library is 300GB+ of mostly FLAC goodness. Deciding which albums I should have on hand at any given time and then transcoding them to something reasonable for a mobile device or having a complete duplicate library in lower bitrate MP3s and still swapping out albums manually is a PITA. This is not only a solution, but a solution with countless perks.
If 32GB is enough for you or you don't mind wasting your time, I suppose you can ***** about the lack of expandable storage and swim upstream against the proliferation of streaming services all you want.
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While the tone was a bit overly hostile, I agree with you to an extent. Cloud-based services definitely seem to be the direction technology is moving in. Whether or not that's a good thing will be up to the individual.
Personally, 16gbs is perfectly sufficient for my needs as I don't see the need to carry my entire .mp3/flac/whatevs collection around with me, I won't argue against the convenience of being able to access it whenever, wherever should I decide I'm in the mood for something not currently loaded on my device. So I'm interested in seeing the development of this app. So, to be clear, this would just be a streaming service akin to Pandora/Slacker(but obviously it's my collection, not something generated by them/someone else) or would I be able to drag/drop/load my device with the songs of choice and disconnect?
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Even if the NS did have a MicroSD slot, the largest available is 32GB. My music library is 300GB+ of mostly FLAC goodness. Deciding which albums I should have on hand at any given time and then transcoding them to something reasonable for a mobile device or having a complete duplicate library in lower bitrate MP3s and still swapping out albums manually is a PITA. This is not only a solution, but a solution with countless perks.
If 32GB is enough for you or you don't mind wasting your time, I suppose you can ***** about the lack of expandable storage and swim upstream against the proliferation of streaming services all you want.
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I'm not bashing or hatin' or anything. I just think that you don't need 200GBs+ of music at you all the time. 32GB isn't enough for me, I have a music collection of over 550GBs, but no way in hell do I need al that ever at once. I'd rather have a microSD to store files and apps and backups and all that. I pick and choose my favorite albums, with about 6GBs to spare, so it does not matter to me, although I do believe that a hardware hack could come along. I'm just sayin'...
And please don't get me wrong, I have nothing against cloud-based services.
I was probably a little too hostile and for that, I apologize.
One of the many things I like about Subsonic is that it is a streaming solution that is not actually "in the cloud" but hosted from your own PC and your own library. I got burned pretty bad when Apple bought out LaLa.com and killed them, leaving a bad taste in my mouth regarding cloud-based music services. All of my music licensing was gone and I received an iTunes gift card (that I refuse to use) for my troubles.
I posted this because I really like Subsonic, not just as a solution to a lack of expandable storage on the NS but as a media library and player in general. I'm hoping that some other people who haven't discovered it yet can do so.
Cheers.
I prefer AudioGalaxy.
My gripe with the no SD card as far as music is conserned is that I fly A LoT. Average twice a week. So I don't always have access to cloud based music. I do like the I would still have to pick and choose which songs before hand to have enough for say, an 8 hour flight. So, I've just had to pick and choose what I carry, and will rotate out occasionally.
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And please don't get me wrong, I have nothing against cloud-based services.
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me either, i use DropBox (free)
but even with a 3G connection, it is still slowwwwwwwwww compared to a local microSD
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My gripe with the no SD card as far as music is conserned is that I fly A LoT. Average twice a week. So I don't always have access to cloud based music. I do like the I would still have to pick and choose which songs before hand to have enough for say, an 8 hour flight. So, I've just had to pick and choose what I carry, and will rotate out occasionally.
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I like subsonic because it doesn't just stream them it caches the songs. so you queue the songs it downloads them and then it is on your device. they show up in the native music app as well. I like it because i can choose music in the terminal as opposed to while i'm packing. I have used subsonic for about 9 months and absolutely love it. it has great settings like transcoding bitrate based on your connection wifi and mobile. I also dig the web interface when i'm at work. i'm excited about the video streaming as well. the server is ~$25 but I believe only one person works on it. i'm a sucker for small programs and the license can be used on multiple machines. The developer is very helpful as well.
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Even if the NS did have a MicroSD slot, the largest available is 32GB. My music library is 300GB+ of mostly FLAC goodness. Deciding which albums I should have on hand at any given time and then transcoding them to something reasonable for a mobile device or having a complete duplicate library in lower bitrate MP3s and still swapping out albums manually is a PITA. This is not only a solution, but a solution with countless perks.
If 32GB is enough for you or you don't mind wasting your time, I suppose you can ***** about the lack of expandable storage and swim upstream against the proliferation of streaming services all you want.
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So i guess in the concrete jungle of a subway system where i am i can be enjoying my "300gb" goodness of FLAC music when there is no network service???
Come on, streaming services are great for discovering varieties of new or different stuff but for stuff i already own i'd rather have them on my person, even if i can only carry around 32GB of them at a time, which in itself is staggering.
If you must have hundreds of geebees of music on you at a time, get a Cowon or Archos with hundreds of geebess built in.
How in God's name does someone amass a collection of over 550 gbs of music.
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I just got subsonic setup tonight and I have to admit its a sick program. The majority of my mp3's are at 320kbs and I had no issues at all streaming them over 3g. Ill keep on toying with it before I donate but so far so good.
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How in God's name does someone amass a collection of over 550 gbs of music.
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Years of collecting live music concerts in .shn/.flac
Try over 4 terabytes
Oh...and +1 to AudioGalaxy
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I just got subsonic setup tonight and I have to admit its a sick program. The majority of my mp3's are at 320kbs and I had no issues at all streaming them over 3g. Ill keep on toying with it before I donate but so far so good.
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i did play with it as well, it's very nice for HOME use
but i found when i try to stream music DRIVING, it occasionally (a lot) breaks up or get choppy audio
and then from Nexus S streams over Bluetooth to the car receiver
so anyone riding in the Subway system, sub sonic is totally out of the question.
unless you are lucky to be in one of those countries where the transit system have cellphone relays inside the subway tunnels
That's odd because SS caches the songs to phone storage to cut down on buffering but if your in a spotty reception area you will probably have that issue with streaming in general.
One bug I've ran into and I think this is an issue with the web browser is when I try to log on using the web browser and not the android app I get an error "browser has too many redirects" or something like that.
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So i guess in the concrete jungle of a subway system where i am i can be enjoying my "300gb" goodness of FLAC music when there is no network service???
Come on, streaming services are great for discovering varieties of new or different stuff but for stuff i already own i'd rather have them on my person, even if i can only carry around 32GB of them at a time, which in itself is staggering.
If you must have hundreds of geebees of music on you at a time, get a Cowon or Archos with hundreds of geebess built in.
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If you are offline, you use Subsonic in offline mode and play whatever you have cached. It's a rolling cache with adjustable size. I have mine set to 10GB, so even if I'm in an area with slow/no service, I can listen to whatever the last 10GB of streamed music is.
So, worst case scenario: you're limited to offline mode and can only listen to what you've been listening to lately. Essentially the same as if you were not using Subsonic and you're stuck on the Subway.
... and best case scenario is you can play whatever you want whenever you want it.
I'm really trying, but I don't see the downside here.
Could not figure out subsonic at all so I gave up. I have 16gbs of music and I'm getting a nexus s in about a week. I plan on using mspot. 4 bucks for 40 gbs isn't bad. Ill eventually buy a zune hd or ipod touch 32gb. Or just use nexus or g2 as mp3.
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If you had problems with subsonic check out this page....http://monroeworld.com/android/subsonic/
Its the page I used to get subsonic working.
Hey!
tl;dr: Do you feel that the Spotify "Genre Stations" song selection is better than Google Play Music "Radio Stations"?
I've cancelled my Spotify subscription and signed for the Play Music All access. I really like google and its products, also the Play Music app is well integrated within' Android, so it only made everything seamless and better!
I can manually find any music I wish, even local styles such as the brazilian Pagode or Forró, just like I could on Spotify, so that's not much of a problem. The thing is when I play the recommended songs/radio stations from Play Music... they all suck big time. Like, they don't get one single song right.
Also, Spotify had better local songs playlists (which I guess were selected by the brazilian Spotify team or something) and I could select a station based on a genre and enjoy at least one hour of awesome music selection, while on Play Music, I can only find playlists made by other people, which is pretty much a hit and miss, where some are pretty cool while others doesn't do it very well.
Spotify I could select a genre station, say Pop, and it would always play the BEST (at least for me). I discovered a lot of songs that way, many parties I've been and played these stations, people really enjoyed the songs, overall awesome experience
While on Google Play Music, I went through a full work day listening to those "radios" and I didn't enjoy a single music. At parties, people phase out my phone to play songs on theirs (sometimes on Spotify), so my experience on those "stations" are terrible.
Does anyone feel the same way? Am I missing something? I'm pressing the "like" button on the songs I like, but it still doesn't recommend me good songs, so I've been playing the very same playlist for a while -- which were the songs I've listened on Spotify, plus a few others I found on friend's Spotify playlists. I'm tempted to move on to Spotify, but I really like Google Play Music.
GTMoraes said:
Hey!
tl;dr: Do you feel that the Spotify "Genre Stations" song selection is better than Google Play Music "Radio Stations"?
I've cancelled my Spotify subscription and signed for the Play Music All access. I really like google and its products, also the Play Music app is well integrated within' Android, so it only made everything seamless and better!
I can manually find any music I wish, even local styles such as the brazilian Pagode or Forró, just like I could on Spotify, so that's not much of a problem. The thing is when I play the recommended songs/radio stations from Play Music... they all suck big time. Like, they don't get one single song right.
Also, Spotify had better local songs playlists (which I guess were selected by the brazilian Spotify team or something) and I could select a station based on a genre and enjoy at least one hour of awesome music selection, while on Play Music, I can only find playlists made by other people, which is pretty much a hit and miss, where some are pretty cool while others doesn't do it very well.
Spotify I could select a genre station, say Pop, and it would always play the BEST (at least for me). I discovered a lot of songs that way, many parties I've been and played these stations, people really enjoyed the songs, overall awesome experience
While on Google Play Music, I went through a full work day listening to those "radios" and I didn't enjoy a single music. At parties, people phase out my phone to play songs on theirs (sometimes on Spotify), so my experience on those "stations" are terrible.
Does anyone feel the same way? Am I missing something? I'm pressing the "like" button on the songs I like, but it still doesn't recommend me good songs, so I've been playing the very same playlist for a while -- which were the songs I've listened on Spotify, plus a few others I found on friend's Spotify playlists. I'm tempted to move on to Spotify, but I really like Google Play Music.
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I've been a subscriber to both services, I'm currently only Subscribed with Google Play Music.
They both have pros and cons over eachother.
I preferred Spotify for:
-Social features
-Radios
-Likability. (It feels.. new, and smart, and updated.)
I prefer Google Music Overall:
-Google owns it
-It's getting better... fast
-IT"S SO MUCH BETTER WITH PERSONALLY UPLOADED MUSIC (Big reason I prefer Google Music)
-Google has started to integrate Songify "time of day" radios.
-I believe it's future is brighter than Spotify's with Google being behind it, and owning android. Makes more sense to build up my library there.
Both are great, much of it is personal preference!
2PMintheAM said:
I've been a subscriber to both services, I'm currently only Subscribed with Google Play Music.
They both have pros and cons over eachother.
I preferred Spotify for:
-Social features
-Radios
-Likability. (It feels.. new, and smart, and updated.)
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Radios were awesome! Google is getting close to it with its own radio stations, but it isn't nowhere near polishes as Spotify.
Social features for me were irrelevant lol but yeah that's a good thing to have.
2PMintheAM said:
I prefer Google Music Overall:
-Google owns it
-It's getting better... fast
-IT"S SO MUCH BETTER WITH PERSONALLY UPLOADED MUSIC (Big reason I prefer Google Music)
-Google has started to integrate Songify "time of day" radios.
-I believe it's future is brighter than Spotify's with Google being behind it, and owning android. Makes more sense to build up my library there.
Both are great, much of it is personal preference!
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Gotta confess that I only left Spotify for Play Music because I like Google and it's a Google product.
I thought you could upload your own songs to Spotify?
Indeed future's better for Play Music with a Google team backing it up, but there are things that I don't know how long will it take to be implemented. Some just aren't Google dependant, such as userbase. I guess the most popular music are picked by... Well, an algorithm that detects which song is played more. Currently, the "top N" play list here sucks, with one or two good songs.
While, of course on Spotify, any play list would rock my socks off.
Did they add the time of day playlists? Gotta check that. I really miss the "Flashback Thursday" on Spotify and play lists like that.
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Andew's mother got my rod in her hole. Musconv.com is a fake tool.
...does anyone know of a music app that will run in Android Auto, AND will allow full music library browsing (by artists, albums or genres) through the touchscreen interface? Voice alone is not cutting it due to a great many music artists use unique names that Google cannot recognise.
Google Play Music in AA will not let us browse artists, albums or genre through the touchscreen interface. We only get the "lucky" mix, recent activity or playlists. And playlists are really not useful for a couple reasons... Firstly, Google forces you to have 2 default playlists it thinks you will like, and then browsing playlists is limited to 11 (including the aforementioned 2, so really it's 9). Once you get to the 11th playlist you are blocked from scrolling further with a safety message. Super frustrating. So don't waste your time making more than 9 playlists!
I know doubleTwist says that you can browse by artists, but you get a similar safety message prohibiting you from scrolling further than 10 or so.
Any chance an awesome XDA dev has made of modified version of AA that will ignore these safety blocks? Or does anyone know of a music app that will give us full music library browsing through the touchscreen interface?
invertedskull said:
...does anyone know of a music app that will run in Android Auto, AND will allow full music library browsing (by artists, albums or genres) through the touchscreen interface? Voice alone is not cutting it due to a great many music artists use unique names that Google cannot recognise.
Google Play Music in AA will not let us browse artists, albums or genre through the touchscreen interface. We only get the "lucky" mix, recent activity or playlists. And playlists are really not useful for a couple reasons... Firstly, Google forces you to have 2 default playlists it thinks you will like, and then browsing playlists is limited to 11 (including the aforementioned 2, so really it's 9). Once you get to the 11th playlist you are blocked from scrolling further with a safety message. Super frustrating. So don't waste your time making more than 9 playlists!
I know doubleTwist says that you can browse by artists, but you get a similar safety message prohibiting you from scrolling further than 10 or so.
Any chance an awesome XDA dev has made of modified version of AA that will ignore these safety blocks? Or does anyone know of a music app that will give us full music library browsing through the touchscreen interface?
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No, this is a safety feature baked into android auto. App developers cannot bypass it, they can only make their apps better designed to work with it.
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*sad face*
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*sad face*
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You can create "voice friendly" named playlists for those unique named artists and use voice to call up the playlists.
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