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Now don't get me wrong here I'm not trying to start any flame wars in any way. I would just like to gather thoughts on why would someone go with WP7 when Android seems to be kicking so much ass?
Yes, I'm an Android fan, and have been from the start.
I'm a photographer, and I've had my eye on the Galaxy Tab for some time now in order to show off some of my work (mini portfolio) with clients when I'm out shooting.
Yesterday I walked into my local TMO store knowing that I was going to buy the Galaxy Tab, but I was not aware that they had a promotion going on with the Tab. Pretty much the deal was... buy a Galaxy Tab, and get a free Smart phone. I'm thinking that's cool! Turns out that the phones (Android) that were free were phones I've already owned, or pretty much didn't care for. So, the only phone left sticking out like a sore thumb was the HTC HD7.
Yeah, the phone is sexy, but it's a Windows phone, and why the hell would I want that, right? I mean, I owned the HD2, but it left me with such a bad taste in my mouth, and led me to sell it after 3 weeks. I just found it to be such a sluggish phone, Windows 6.5 was not doing it for me. Shame because it was a sexy phone as well.
Anyway, I took a chance with the HD7. I thought I'd play with it for a bit just to check out Windows new UI. I knew when picking the phone I'd sell it because I didn't want a Windows phone. I'm an ANDROID FANBOY! The money made from it would break me even for my Tab purchase. Sweet!
Guess what...? The phone is not going to sold, because I think I'm in love? I also feel like I'm cheating on my wife, or something. This phone ROCKS! Still not sure why I feel this way, but I do.
1. Phone is SEXY!
2. Love the layout of the UI.
3. It's just so damn smooth!
Yeah, it has a few I dislike...
1. Very weak Market, and what's up with the high prices?
2. Pink tint in the center of my photos when using the camera.
3. Facebook, Twitter, and browser all seem to run a bit sluggish.
I'm sure the above 2, and 3 can be fixed with an update, and 1 will grow with in time.
My only questions are...
What do I have to look forward to in the future with this phone/UI?
What can I do now?
Will WP7 have great support by Devs?
Should I say goodbye to Android?
Thoughts?
Thanks!
WS.
i will say welcome to the club my friend... and now just imagine how it will be like when WP7 will tablet PC...
Have to say I have the HD2 and HD7 and love them both in their own ways. I agree the HD2 was a pile of poo with stock rom.. so much bloatware I'm surprised it even booted up! But with an NRG rom on it just rocked! Plus it ran Android really well from SD...
My new HD7 rocks in a different way. Yes the market is a little small and pricey right now - but so was the iPhone one at the beginning....
My only gripes are not being able to LOCALLY sync with my calendar on my PCand not being able to tether it to my netbook for internet access... give me those and I would be in heaven!!
Welcome to the club!
truffle1234 said:
i will say welcome to the club my friend... and now just imagine how it will be like when WP7 will tablet PC...
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I was Android fan too, until I saw WP7 phones. Yesterday I checked them in shop (I was reading and watching many videos), but Trophy blew my mind off!!! It's awesome!!! Android really sucks, compared to WP7
Honestly, I have tried to go back to android just b.c i do like the mytouch 4g(webcam, app quality/quanity, and wi-fi calling)
But i love my hd7
the mysense and android experience seems...so boring...no matter how much you replace launchers, root it or whatever
I LOVE WP7
i just really want them to get ringtones 2011 and better applications
I also tried going back to my Android before my 30-day return window was up for my HD7, but within an hour I couldn't even stand how sluggish it was compared to my HD7.
There is no question, I am sticking with my HD7 and will probably continue with some sort of WP7 device until they come out with something better.
HD7 (WP7) works smoother than any other phone out there including iPhone and is so much sleeker than every other OS. I absolutely love it.
netflix netflix and netflix
^^^among the smoothness, plus 1000!
I still can't figure out why a 2nd gen snapdragon on the mytouch is slower than a 1st gen on HD7
GIVE ME WIFI CALLING AND BETTER CAMERA, and it will be perfect
carmeng4evr said:
I still can't figure out why a 2nd gen snapdragon on the mytouch is slower than a 1st gen on HD7
GIVE ME WIFI CALLING AND BETTER CAMERA, and it will be perfect
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How do you measure CPU performance on two different platforms? It's not like Linpack is available for WP7, is it?
Ya the experience is VERY good on the HD7! I'm an Android fan as well but REALLY am liking my WP7!
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How do you measure CPU performance on two different platforms? It's not like Linpack is available for WP7, is it?
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I have no idea what linpack is
Im just saying in day 2 day experience
the overall experience with mytouch is sluggish vs hd7 smooth(only lags with games)
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I have no idea what linpack is
Im just saying in day 2 day experience
the overall experience with mytouch is sluggish vs hd7 smooth(only lags with games)
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It has nothing to do with the CPU differences.
It is OS difference.
I'm an android fan got Desire HD, Tab and HD7, HD7 UI is fantastic very smooth. Screen animations brilliant but I'm afraid that's about it.
The browsing experience on HD7 is very poor a complete let down, pants. Picture quality not good. Battery life poor. Market phew complete rubbish compared to Android and that's being very kind.
If wp wants to catch up to Android it has to improve it's market and browsing experience otherwise it will never be popular as android.
Personally I would go with WP if the browser and apps can be fixed the other things can be tolerated as the ui and animation smoothness makes up for that.
i was a great android fan starting from(G1,MYTOUCH3G,....) to(GALAXY S DEVICES) but once i bought the HD7 i was in love with it.
Just cant wait for the update (NODO) next week and the other update (MANGO) in a month or 2.
I'm never going back to ANDROID.
WilliamStern said:
Now don't get me wrong here I'm not trying to start any flame wars in any way. I would just like to gather thoughts on why would someone go with WP7 when Android seems to be kicking so much ass?
Yes, I'm an Android fan, and have been from the start.
I'm a photographer, and I've had my eye on the Galaxy Tab for some time now in order to show off some of my work (mini portfolio) with clients when I'm out shooting.
Yesterday I walked into my local TMO store knowing that I was going to buy the Galaxy Tab, but I was not aware that they had a promotion going on with the Tab. Pretty much the deal was... buy a Galaxy Tab, and get a free Smart phone. I'm thinking that's cool! Turns out that the phones (Android) that were free were phones I've already owned, or pretty much didn't care for. So, the only phone left sticking out like a sore thumb was the HTC HD7.
Yeah, the phone is sexy, but it's a Windows phone, and why the hell would I want that, right? I mean, I owned the HD2, but it left me with such a bad taste in my mouth, and led me to sell it after 3 weeks. I just found it to be such a sluggish phone, Windows 6.5 was not doing it for me. Shame because it was a sexy phone as well.
Anyway, I took a chance with the HD7. I thought I'd play with it for a bit just to check out Windows new UI. I knew when picking the phone I'd sell it because I didn't want a Windows phone. I'm an ANDROID FANBOY! The money made from it would break me even for my Tab purchase. Sweet!
Guess what...? The phone is not going to sold, because I think I'm in love? I also feel like I'm cheating on my wife, or something. This phone ROCKS! Still not sure why I feel this way, but I do.
1. Phone is SEXY!
2. Love the layout of the UI.
3. It's just so damn smooth!
Yeah, it has a few I dislike...
1. Very weak Market, and what's up with the high prices?
2. Pink tint in the center of my photos when using the camera.
3. Facebook, Twitter, and browser all seem to run a bit sluggish.
I'm sure the above 2, and 3 can be fixed with an update, and 1 will grow with in time.
My only questions are...
What do I have to look forward to in the future with this phone/UI?
What can I do now?
Will WP7 have great support by Devs?
Should I say goodbye to Android?
Thoughts?
Thanks!
WS.
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Don't expect too much goodness with WP7. The updates will be meager at best. WP7 doesn't even have voice nav like WinMo did or any Android phone does. There's a lot missing in the way of features other than voice nav too. You can't use your own ringtones or any other ringtones. You can't do multi-tasking. You can't customize the UI like in Android. Most of the lauded features don't work. Like the live tiles, mine has never seen a live tile....other than letting me know I have a certain number of emails and such. The widgets in Android do a heck of a lot better at quickly displaying events than live tiles do.
I started out liking WP7 because of the quality of the UI (smoothness and cleanness). But I lost interest in it when it was announced that common features would be almost a year away. I'm currently not using my HD7 and it's sitting waiting for an Android ROM to be developed for it. As for the HD2 you had, it makes a superb Android phone. And with the HD2, you could have a different phone as often as you like. Currently my HD2 is an HTC DesireHD, which is a purely superb Android version.
When Android is available for the HD7, it will make an outstanding upgrade from the HD2 because of the software buttons. As for WP7, it's going in the trash. I loved WinMo 6.5 Pro, but WP7 has me buggered. Don't get me wrong, I love a closed system phone like the iPhone and like MS is doing with WP7. But I need at a minimum the common features available on smartphones today.
MartyLK said:
Don't expect too much goodness with WP7. The updates will be meager at best. WP7 doesn't even have voice nav like WinMo did or any Android phone does. There's a lot missing in the way of features other than voice nav too. You can't use your own ringtones or any other ringtones. You can't do multi-tasking. You can't customize the UI like in Android. Most of the lauded features don't work. Like the live tiles, mine has never seen a live tile....other than letting me know I have a certain number of emails and such. The widgets in Android do a heck of a lot better at quickly displaying events than live tiles do.
I started out liking WP7 because of the quality of the UI (smoothness and cleanness). But I lost interest in it when it was announced that common features would be almost a year away. I'm currently not using my HD7 and it's sitting waiting for an Android ROM to be developed for it. As for the HD2 you had, it makes a superb Android phone. And with the HD2, you could have a different phone as often as you like. Currently my HD2 is an HTC DesireHD, which is a purely superb Android version.
When Android is available for the HD7, it will make an outstanding upgrade from the HD2 because of the software buttons. As for WP7, it's going in the trash. I loved WinMo 6.5 Pro, but WP7 has me buggered. Don't get me wrong, I love a closed system phone like the iPhone and like MS is doing with WP7. But I need at a minimum the common features available on smartphones today.
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your bias is so obvious. Widgets doing a better job is your opinion. I have 4 live tiles just in my main screen, without scrolling down.
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carmeng4evr said:
I have no idea what linpack is
Im just saying in day 2 day experience
the overall experience with mytouch is sluggish vs hd7 smooth(only lags with games)
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It's because the HTC Sense UI and other bloatware cause it to be sluggish that way. If it ran vanilla 2.2 it would be way faster. 2.2 on the G2 is much smoother and less laggy than the MyTouch 4G. I like HTC but I was disappointed with the compatibility with Sense UI and Android (although I think it was a great idea. It was poorly realized). But even if it ran faster it would still be plain... Vanilla. For now I'm happy with the HD7 and am looking forward to the bright future for WP7 :]. I mean if you think about it... this is 1.0 and compared to Android 1.0? phew!
2.3 Vanilla was pretty damn sexy though... but only because of the features. the UI for WP7 is my favorite from the rest.
The Fandroid comments make me laugh. I was one of the G1 day one users and there was SOO much crap said for Android. Oh it's going to fail, it's crap. Yadda Yadda. Some time later, Android became the power house that it is now. I've seen the progression of how Android grew. While it advanced to where it is now...It grew more and more boring for me. For people now jumping into the Android pool, it's amazing. But for day 1 adapters, it didn't have anything new/exciting to keep me around.
WP7 launches and of course everyone bashes, it doesn't have this, it doesn't have that. Does anyone remember Apples first iPhone launch? It wasn't amazing either, but look at it now. Yes the Kin was garbage. No one can arguee with that. Windows 6.5 may left a bad taste in people mouth with Windows Mobile OSs. But to some 6.5 was the powerhouse that they wanted and now love. People need to understand that this is Windows Phone 7 not Windows Mobile 7. New OS from the ground up.
Yes, it's lacking features, yes the market isn't strong compared to other. But people it's been out for 2 months. With the growth in developer support, devices, or support for updates, it has a chance to be a strong OS. The Xbox Live support alone makes it a big contender for games with the link to 360 users gamertags.
It comes down to time and growth. Give it till after the set of updates to then bash it. For me, Android didn't have anything to really offer me other then new handsets. Not a Blackberry fan and didn't really care for the iPhone. Never played with a Palm Pre so can't really say anything about it. I wanted something fresh and new. For me the Xbox 360 integration played a huge part in my decision, but the idea behind WP7 had me interested. So I followed it since the initial announcement to launch date in the UK to me actually playing with one in person. I'm happy with my purchase and am not looking back. Looking forward to the updates, growth, and future for WP7.
guy, i understand ppl like Android, WP7 or iOS... but i dont get those ppl who will buy a HD7 and *****ing about why it cant run android because of few missing features which we all knew will not be in till 2011....
i really feel sorry for you guys... get a life...
I am using Samsung Wave S8500, it is a great phone but the only drawback is Applications and Games of Bada, buying option is not available in my country Pakistan, been using wavespoofer to make thing work but now after upgrading cant use the spoof method too.
So i am thinking of switching to Samsung Galaxy S, after reading reviews and comments the only drawback is the lack of LED Flash with Camera and it lags a lot and the black screen issue, so i am really confused should i buy this or should i buy some other phone like HTC Desire, please guide me.
Thanks.
The shortest way to answer this is that I myself had a samsung wave n i thought it was a brilliant phone but then i switched to the Galaxy s and i don't regret it. It was a brilliant decision when i decided to get the galaxy s. So go for it
There's a lot to do with the phone in the development section to fix the lag but make sure u understand everything before doing anything.
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SGS is still the best out there, and lack of flash for the camera is easely resolved with the "night mode" (Google it for sample pictures).
But then, within 6 months, it'll be overtaken by all the dual core phones.
In a few days next gen galaxy s is going to be launched.. And the dual core generation is going to take over everywhere.. Htc, samsung, moto.. Etc..
Beside this.. I ll never recommend a samsung galaxy s.. Full of issues.. If u are buying a new phone then y should u look for after market solutions like lag fix etc.. That kills ur warranty too.. I had a htc desire n I miss it.. Htc is the way if u need android.. Smooth UI.. QUICKER updates.. Dont go with gimmicks like super amoled etc.. Whats the point if u keep looking at a black screen every now n then..
Buy htc desire hd or htc desire n be happy.
Dont buy SGS.. Personal experience.. Its laggy.. Touchwiz sucks in front of htc sense..
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Really speaking buy a phone which dont have option of customization.
Because you will save lots of your quality time.
Buy iphone 4 or any windows phone 7.
Because this is my experience with sgs I was an end user
I wanted to buy Omnia 7 but its was not available in my country or any other wp7 and Iphone 4 was too costly.
And still omnia 7 is not available in my country you (sad samsung)
So in the end I bought SGS. And was hopping that it will get wp7. I thought this because news are comming like this that HD2 will get wp7 and I saw some vidoes of HD2 with wp7 on youtube
When I got sgs I have only adhoc wifi connection in my house with my pc. Adhoc mode which is the basic wifi feature dose not supported by sgs or android. which wasted my 2 days for fixing that basic feature. because for that I have to learn how to root what is download mode what is superuser and bla bla bla.(You really suck! SGS or Android I dont know whos fault SGS or Android).
Then I started search for "wp7 for SGS" and I came to XDA-DEVELOPERS.COM
I wish I would never came here. but I came.
And I found lagfix, custom roms, rooting and etc... for sgs (More scary things and time wasting) not thats all
SGS dose not support wpa2-enterprise wifi security feature. Because of this I cant use internet of my isp on my SGS, no dedicated cam button (At buying time I thought it will be ok but I was wrong dedicated cam button must req and not having flash is still ok) etc.
My experience with SGS and Android is it still incomplete not stable but it is inovative. But inovation will copied here and there(android copied base of Iphone and windows phone inovation, now iphone and wp7 will copy android inovation)
So if you are an end user buy Iphone or any WP7.
I like Omnia 7.
yepp, i think currently it is really one of the best android phones. though you should know new (dual core) models will be coming within months so if it's not urgent, strong hardware is important and you and you have money, maybe you should wait a bit.
rohit.sadhwani said:
In a few days next gen galaxy s is going to be launched.. And the dual core generation is going to take over everywhere.. Htc, samsung, moto.. Etc..
Beside this.. I ll never recommend a samsung galaxy s.. Full of issues.. If u are buying a new phone then y should u look for after market solutions like lag fix etc.. That kills ur warranty too.. I had a htc desire n I miss it.. Htc is the way if u need android.. Smooth UI.. QUICKER updates.. Dont go with gimmicks like super amoled etc.. Whats the point if u keep looking at a black screen every now n then..
Buy htc desire hd or htc desire n be happy.
Dont buy SGS.. Personal experience.. Its laggy.. Touchwiz sucks in front of htc sense..
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If your looking for a high end android device you will most certainly come across galaxy s devices. The super amoled screen isn't a gimmick, its amazing. Aside from the I4, I don't think you can beat the display. Who looks at a black screen now and again? If your referring to the phone being in sleep mode before turning it on, then yes, there is a brief moment where the screen is black but I wouldn't say people are actually looking at that screen. (What's to look at? )
..just sayin;-)
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its quite simple coz its acc to what u want
if u want the thing to just work then never ever go to near any andriod device coz u have to spend time with it . buy iphone or wp7.
or if u love to play with things then sgs is good to go still i recommend to w8 for dual core phones
either way its ur way what u expect from a phone
I am a 5 month galaxy user and I can tell you: i doesn't worth to buy one. Buy a HTC or motorola. I started to hate samsung. Mine has a graphics problem that I can't figure out wht's it's source.... I will try to sell it. Hopefully I will be able to sell it at a reasonable price.
If you are going to root and flash a custom rom YES
If you don't wanna do that NO
That simple
If you enjoy modding and want TV-out buy SGS.
If you enjoy modding but don't want TV-Out buy HTC.
If you want games, buy IPhone.
If you want large tiles on your home screen buy WP7 (or mod your android using Desktop Visualizer)
If you want to take quality pics and vids buy Nokia N8.
Do we really need Dual Cores on our phones?
I think it's worth the buy. It does break your warranty to have lag fix, but who doesn't know how to get around that. Just do recovery mode (i swear it's super easy to do) and reformat everything. The phone is super fast, the bugs are a problem but it's fixed after rooting and lagfix. Although right now it's better to buy the galaxy 2 that's coming out soon, that'll probably be better for your price as the dual cores galaxy s will probably be the same price. Try and go to places and see if they have a display of the product and try it out for yourself.
The Motorola Atrix looks decent...should be out by March or so.
SGS is a decent phone in my opinion. If you can get one for a good price and one with the latest firmware / hardware upgrades so you don't have to deal with all this lag and bricking issues, I would.
If you want decent GPS - no (design flaw/constraint)
If you want decent audio - no (samsh!t fcked up the audio)
If you want decent mic for recording sound even in videos and phone conversations - no (overly sensitive, single mic)
If you want decent fluid like display - no (can see individual pixels on sgs horrible)
If you want decent material case - no (sgs mostly, if not all plastic)
Wait for different handset, perhaps the newer models with nvidia tegra 2, once you see what the battery life is like for dual core phones.
Good luck.
i think u should wait for samsung infuse 4g
Hi there
- a lot of you guys saying that the sgs is one of the best phones - yes it is one of the best android phones - the screen is brilliant and android is cool.
i bought it on the 24th of june 2010 - it was the second day they sold it in germany ^^ without custom firmware and lagfixes it wouldnt be useful for me... if you use it only for making phone calls and having a few internet apps installed everything is fine - but more than 30 apps... you need a lagfix or android 2.2.1...
If i would like to have a new phone - i would wait until march when the LG Speed is announced. this is the next top-phone i think.
if it doesnt matter what system you wanna use... iphone... its reliable - really. but i dont like apple :|
Android is great!
cheers
With Black screen I meant the lag which phone faces.. The black screen appears on numerous occasions going from one random option to the other.. Its the lag..
We know that there are fixes for most of the sgs issues.. But it feels terrible to fix a new phone we bought, when there are phones in the market which do not require such fixes..
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ila420 said:
I am using Samsung Wave S8500, it is a great phone but the only drawback is Applications and Games of Bada, buying option is not available in my country Pakistan, been using wavespoofer to make thing work but now after upgrading cant use the spoof method too.
So i am thinking of switching to Samsung Galaxy S, after reading reviews and comments the only drawback is the lack of LED Flash with Camera and it lags a lot and the black screen issue, so i am really confused should i buy this or should i buy some other phone like HTC Desire, please guide me.
Thanks.
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I have the galaxy S and my wife has the wave.... the wave is terrible compared to the Galaxy S..... so in Short Yes buy one you won't be disappointed. Sell your wave or try and find a way to install Android on it.
It still is kinda confusing, for sure i will change my Wave to some other device, may be i should wait for Galaxy S 2 i think they are announcing it on 13th Feb or LG Optimus X2 it looks cool too but they forgot the put Radio on it.
I usually play games, watch videos and play with the camera taking picutres making videos, not a fan of programming and stuff, Galaxy S 2 and Optimus 2X both look cool, lets see how dual core thing effects the industry.
Good decision.. Wait for dual core machinery to hit the shelves.. Not only it will give u more options but it will also bring down the price of current devices..
I am seriously recommending u to not to buy a samsung phone.. Be it whatever android.. The entire galaxy s line suffered the delay in upgrade to froyo.. Some have still not received.. N on the other hand samsung released other new devices with 2.2 out of the box..
They just want to sell new phones.. Older phones they just sell and forget..
Htc released a froyo update for legend which is one of the initial droids.. This shows how dedicated are these companies for their customers..
I m a samsung user and hate it.. I was a htc user and I miss it..
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Hey guys, recently i wrote an article for this website and i was wondering, what do you think about my writing skills and what do you think about this topic. What OS is better for you and what mobile device do you own currently?
Here is the link of the Android vs Windows phone 7
Android definitely!
http://www.tested.com/news/windows-phone-7-vs-android-the-real-fight-is-here/517/
You kinda lost me in the first sentence, saying WP7 is pretty and sleek.
I own a few WM models, will probably buy something like a Nexus S to try shortly, I quite like the iphone 4 with it's high quality screen and fairly dense text, but iTunes and lack of being able to change things would drive me nuts.
I'm pretty much prepared to end up not liking any newer platform enough to continue buying them after what I have craps out.
WP7 has no appeal to me, like most of the population it seems
Android easily, I haven't owned a WM 7 phone but I had 6.5 on my HD2 before I put Android on there, and I wouldn't ever switch back
I'd go for the openness of Android any day. I strongly believe in open-source software. Windows is just annoying at the best of times.
i think android is better
I have to throw in my vote for Android. You can't beat open source...
I plan on using both.......
Im either upgrading to a DHD and flashing WP7 to my HD2 or upgrading to a WP7 and continue running Android + 6.5 on my HD2........
Why choose when I have have it all..........
I dont think its possible to say which is better, its all down to personal preference at the end of the day......
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I plan on using both.......
Im either upgrading to a DHD and flashing WP7 to my HD2 or upgrading to a WP7 and continue running Android + 6.5 on my HD2........
Why choose when I have have it all..........
I dont think its possible to say which is better, its all down to personal preference at the end of the day......
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HD2 can be so much better on WP7,shame you couldnt wait for WP7 and buy htc hd7 for example!
They both have the exact same specs (other than internal storage). I've got a HD2 and WP7 runs smoooooooth on it. Seen a speed test on YouTube with a HD2 and HD7 and the HD2 was actually faster lol.
Yeah but I've got to agree with most people, WP7 just doesn't seem ready yet for me and I'm not really a big fan on the tiles etc. The only things I like about it are the transitions and keyboard.
I've used a WP7 phone briefly, I think it's a good platform and has potential but I can see it eating share out of RIM and Apple before it eats any of Android's.
I don't see it fully capable yet.
As far as I am concerned, Open-sorce is Boss. Android is known for its customizable system and that's what I love
-ThingThree
I tried both Android and WP7 and the first is way better. I don't like the UI of WP7 and I think people shouldn't pay for an OS if a better is available for free. As a developer I have to say there aren't many differences between the two platforms, but I prefer Java over C# so I think Android is the best mobile OS these days.
Thanks for your oppinion
Hmm. Android is better, in my opinion. WP7 just hasn't got the features or userbase (yet). I'm a linux user so I'm not a huge fan of Windows anyway.
Mind if I give my two cents on this one.......??
Ive been using both android and WP7 lately (never thought Id move on from 6.5 ) and I have to say that they are both great.
Android, obviously has the customisation/open source advantages and is slightly more mature. However WP7 is so clean and tidy that it almost brings a tear to my eye
I'm currently trying to decide between the Desire HD and a WP7 handset for my next phone and every time I think Ive made my mind up I find a reason to reconsider.
IMO in a years time once MS gets a few updates rolled out for WP7 and the market has grown/dropped in price slightly then its going to be an absolute beast.
I think it's a very big market with more than enough room for multiple platforms to co-exist. Personally i'm an Android fan but i won't hold it against anybody for preferring W7, for instance.
The great thing about Smartphones is that there is something for everybody out there, a phone to suit every taste. That's something to celebrate!
I have to agree with the above post, Android is better however the transitions and keyboard on WP7 are amazing.
I decidded that my new phone is Samsung galaxy s
I am wondering if i should get rid of my HTC HD7. I see the new HTC Sensation and everything looks far superior. Just want a word from you guys before i make the move. Any ETA to when T-Mobile will have them in stock? Also i saw some guy on kijiji selling a HD7 with Android 2.2 on it. I prefer Android over WP7.
Like come on m$ didnt even make a MSN Messenger yet.
And check out the Music player... how ridiculous they don't have a feature to make playlists and why cant videos play in background? why do they just stop when u exit? Sure if a call is coming it can stop... but other than that...
And it had no copy/paste... even though they released copy/paste there is no cut and paste... And they tell us if we jailbreak the phones we wont get the copy/paste feature... like come on that is so bs cause iphone and android phones come with copy/cut/paste.
And importing/exporting the contacts is so f***ed... skydrive and live profile are only way...
And no microSD expansion slot.. just one damn internal slot and if that doesnt work you are left with 15MB of storage.. great.
No proper GPS Navigation other than what we have done so far.. Navigon modded.
I have my HD7 upgraded to 32gb and it has the mugen battery. Any ideas on how much i should sell it for.. it has all the xbox live games and most of the apps.
MSN Messenger is available in the Marketplace, this is an MS approved messenger client so don't expect MS to make another one.
Of course you can make a playlist, just longpress any song you want to add to your current "Now Playing" list and select "Add to Now Playing". It won't appear under the "Playlists" section as this requires Zune but no big deal, at least you've got a list of songs playing you want to play.
Copy/Paste has arrived (although i don't use it). If you think Jailbreaking any device will give you automatic updates without consequences you're mistaken.
Contacts backup are one of the greatest features imo. I've got every single contact linked to my Gmail account so if i ever hard reset all i have to do is link my Gmail account to my phone. Easiest way i've ever known on any device.
I think you should probably put a selling price of £500 and hope that the next person knows absolutely nothing about the device before buying it too. Take your games/apps for example. You obviously have no idea of how these work. So i'll help you out, the next person to buy the phone won't be able to use them (unless they use YOUR email address to set up the phone).
Yeah ! I am inclined towards the HTC Sensation as well now..
Have to make up my mind between Samsung Galaxy S2 and the HTC Sensation..
But I haven't been disappointed with WP7 at all
1. Messenger by Miyowa is the Official MSN messenger ( I dont use it anyway)
I guess it is really down to personal choice.
I have an Htc Hero and Boy I flashed so may Roms on it and now I am nearly sick of flashing All the Lovely Roms on it
WP7 bought something Fresh and New and it serves my daily purpose, the only truely bit that I miss is the navigation, but I guess it will come in the Mango update.
I might sell my HD7 later on , but I doubt anyone will give more than £300 for it if I am lucky, with the new HTC HD7 S being out as well.. or might just keep it
I seriously want to get a NOKIA WP7 when they release theirs next Year cause I am sure the will rock like hell.
As far as I know If Apple doesn't come with something New or different... Android and WP7 will blow them out of competiton
If you think WP7 is ****ty have a look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BDlvG8k5rE
Its just one of the things you will be able to do with it
you know what really grinds my gear, - Posts like this
I got my HD7 for only 1 reason, to have WP7. i knew hardware is the same as HD2, but hey, i couldnt wait for a working port of the OS to HD2. Android was just getting boring as well...
Do i still like my HD7 - yes,
Would i want Sensation instead -yes, definitely, if it came with WP7, but it doesn't, so what's the point. Just calm down and wait for chassis 2 of WP7 devices.
Unless you really don't care about what OS you are using, just switch and move on, hardware wise its definitely the way to go....
Thank you all for your valuable replies. I agree wp7 can be better in the future but hardware wise HTC sensation is the way to go. Alright I will be putting my hd7 up for sale.
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Do i love my HD7? The answer is YES, OF COURSE...
I owned an HD2 before i bought HD7. HD2 is an amazing phone, and HD7 is the same since they have almost the same hardware (even same errors...). I knew that they had already hacked successfully WP7 on HD2, but i just couldn't wait. I sold my HD2 and then bought the HD7. I totally love it.
HTC sensation has a really good hardware (at least it has the dual-core CPU), and Android is not bad. I just get used to the WP7. I don't think i will change the phone for at least 1 year, until HTC pull out something running WP7, i will consider about it.
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Do i love my HD7? The answer is YES, OF COURSE...
I owned an HD2 before i bought HD7. HD2 is an amazing phone, and HD7 is the same since they have almost the same hardware (even same errors...). I knew that they had already hacked successfully WP7 on HD2, but i just couldn't wait. I sold my HD2 and then bought the HD7. I totally love it.
HTC sensation has a really good hardware (at least it has the dual-core CPU), and Android is not bad. I just get used to the WP7. I don't think i will change the phone for at least 1 year, until HTC pull out something running WP7, i will consider about it.
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I agree with everything you said there.. I owned a HD2, which i thought was fantastic.. I'm just an MS fanboy and have to have the latest and greatest they do.. So as of now i have a HD7 and love it.
I hear what you are saying about the Sensation, but that is still not released. If you take a look at what is going on at MIX11 you will see that the new specs for chassis 1 it specifies Qualcom MSM8x55 chipsets which are a generation ahead of what's in the HD7 now, so quicker OS and GFX (even quicker than it is now!!!). It'll outperform the Sensation even with a older chipset
Hopefully looking forward we'll see an adoption of the QSD8x72, putting WP7 shoulder to shoulder with its Android bretheren in hardware.. We all know that speed wise WP7 is killer!
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Take a look here:
http://www.qualcomm.co.uk/products/snapdragon
It shows that the MSM8x60 chipset is indeed going to be used for WP7 handsets..
I'd keep using the HD7 and take advantage of all the wonderfulness that it exudes and wait for the SUPER hand sets coming in the future.
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I am wondering if i should get rid of my HTC HD7. I see the new HTC Sensation and everything looks far superior. Just want a word from you guys before i make the move. Any ETA to when T-Mobile will have them in stock? Also i saw some guy on kijiji selling a HD7 with Android 2.2 on it. I prefer Android over WP7.
Like come on m$ didnt even make a MSN Messenger yet.
And check out the Music player... how ridiculous they don't have a feature to make playlists and why cant videos play in background? why do they just stop when u exit? Sure if a call is coming it can stop... but other than that...
And it had no copy/paste... even though they released copy/paste there is no cut and paste... And they tell us if we jailbreak the phones we wont get the copy/paste feature... like come on that is so bs cause iphone and android phones come with copy/cut/paste.
And importing/exporting the contacts is so f***ed... skydrive and live profile are only way...
And no microSD expansion slot.. just one damn internal slot and if that doesnt work you are left with 15MB of storage.. great.
No proper GPS Navigation other than what we have done so far.. Navigon modded.
I have my HD7 upgraded to 32gb and it has the mugen battery. Any ideas on how much i should sell it for.. it has all the xbox live games and most of the apps.
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you are B#$%%$#@& about the things which every one knew from day one....
tfn said:
Yeah ! I am inclined towards the HTC Sensation as well now..
Have to make up my mind between Samsung Galaxy S2 and the HTC Sensation..
But I haven't been disappointed with WP7 at all
1. Messenger by Miyowa is the Official MSN messenger ( I dont use it anyway)
I guess it is really down to personal choice.
I have an Htc Hero and Boy I flashed so may Roms on it and now I am nearly sick of flashing All the Lovely Roms on it
WP7 bought something Fresh and New and it serves my daily purpose, the only truely bit that I miss is the navigation, but I guess it will come in the Mango update.
I might sell my HD7 later on , but I doubt anyone will give more than £300 for it if I am lucky, with the new HTC HD7 S being out as well.. or might just keep it
I seriously want to get a NOKIA WP7 when they release theirs next Year cause I am sure the will rock like hell.
As far as I know If Apple doesn't come with something New or different... Android and WP7 will blow them out of competiton
If you think WP7 is ****ty have a look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BDlvG8k5rE
Its just one of the things you will be able to do with it
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i am also waiting for the Nokia to launch their WP7 device.... it will be fun... at least i will have a choice of HArdware now only HTC... (please dont take me wrong i tried samsung but they are not as good as HTC)..
Ya... Samsung Omnia 7 sux big time.
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The HTC sensation is a great looking phone but it runs Android and as much as I love Android, it doesn't have the fluidity of WP7 and I love the fact that the OS and UI works perfectly well with the hardware for the most part.
As much as I love Android, there is generally no balance....The software never fully balances with the hardware...leaving a half-done and disappointing experience.
That being said, I am contemplating a switch BACK to android for the xperia play.
I say wait for WP7 to get the 2.5 GHz Quad Cores when ever they come out.
(Qualcomm APQ8064)
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drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I say wait for WP7 to get the 2.5 GHz Quad Cores when ever they come out.
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The beauty of WP7 is that it is perfect on single core processors. Dual-core and quad-core processors will drain the battery faster but as WP7 is already super-fast, they won't add anything to the user experience, thus rendering them a bit pointless TBH.
I would much rather just see the 1GHz processor-based phones drop in price and maybe get more efficient batteries, as battery power is the biggest issue facing WP7 phones, not processor speed.
Jim Coleman said:
The beauty of WP7 is that it is perfect on single core processors. Dual-core and quad-core processors will drain the battery faster but as WP7 is already super-fast, they won't add anything to the user experience, thus rendering them a bit pointless TBH.
I would much rather just see the 1GHz processor-based phones drop in price and maybe get more efficient batteries, as battery power is the biggest issue facing WP7 phones, not processor speed.
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The Quad is supposed to get better battery life than the HD7's single core. According to the press release, 75% less battery draw,
To meet this challenge, Qualcomm created its next generation architecture and integrated four new, low-power CPU cores and its advanced Adreno® graphics into the APQ8064, enabling it to offer twelve times the available performance as well as 75 percent lower power than the first generation of Snapdragon processors.
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So I don't know why WP7 people feel the need to bash the ones who want android for this device. I'm an HD2 owner, have had android on it for basically the entire time I have owned it...and it's been awesome, because lets face it, Windows Mobile 6.5 was garbage. I recently dropped it and cracked the screen pretty severely, checked into getting it replaced by my $8/month phone insurance (which I have since cancelled), and they (not shockingly) advised me that they can no longer replace it with another HD2, but with a HD7 instead.
So I looked here first, wondering how easily I could put android on it and was shocked by the lack of android development, and the numerous attitudes towards it. Obviously it would be better/easier to get another "4.3" inch HTC phone that runs andro-crap", but I won't be able to do that for a couple of months and was looking at a quick fix. I'm just surprised that it hasn't been done, since it's been done on almost EVERY OTHER PHONE. I just don't get it. So I'm going to buy a digitizer and just replace the screen on my HD2. Just thought I would share my experience. Oh, and yes, I have played around with WP7, and while much better than 6.5 it's just not for me.
Let the bashing commence...
No bashing here, well written post, honest and truthful. Nothing wrong with that.
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Oh yeah, thanks for the direct quote.
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Throwing android on the HD2 was always going to be an improvement... I had an HD2 and threw WP7 on it, which is why I now have an HD7... But if you liked android and the HD2, why not get the Desire HD?
Gotta love the versatility of all these HTC devices though...
I think its human nature to want something different or odd... I'm sure if it were easy to get android or WP7 on an iphone, heaps would do it just to be different...
bos2333 said:
So I don't know why WP7 people feel the need to bash the ones who want android for this device. I'm an HD2 owner, have had android on it for basically the entire time I have owned it...and it's been awesome, because lets face it, Windows Mobile 6.5 was garbage. I recently dropped it and cracked the screen pretty severely, checked into getting it replaced by my $8/month phone insurance (which I have since cancelled), and they (not shockingly) advised me that they can no longer replace it with another HD2, but with a HD7 instead.
So I looked here first, wondering how easily I could put android on it and was shocked by the lack of android development, and the numerous attitudes towards it. Obviously it would be better/easier to get another "4.3" inch HTC phone that runs andro-crap", but I won't be able to do that for a couple of months and was looking at a quick fix. I'm just surprised that it hasn't been done, since it's been done on almost EVERY OTHER PHONE. I just don't get it. So I'm going to buy a digitizer and just replace the screen on my HD2. Just thought I would share my experience. Oh, and yes, I have played around with WP7, and while much better than 6.5 it's just not for me.
Let the bashing commence...
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I agree with you completely. I'm in the exact same situation as I had a dual boot android/wp7 hd2 and the digitizer broke. Mostly I used android because of the apps, but I like wp7 better for it's sleek design.
I'm baffled how 75% of people on the hd7 threads can say 'JUST GO BUY A ANDROID PHONE" and "why would you want to dual boot an hd7?". I could buy an android phone but, stupid tmobile replaced my hd2 with an hd7 for free. it's a great phone, there are few which are better currently.
In the hd2 threads, most people wanted to push the limits and explore every possible option; that seems to be missing in large part from the hd7 threads. "just go buy an android phone" will never be the answer.
shame on you who say this...
The only reason to bash I can see, is the lack of people reading and realizing that there is a dedicated Android thread just a couple lines above, where stuff like this should have been posted. Haha...
Otherwise, there is just very little interest in getting Android on this device, which means that it makes more sense to go buy an Android phone, because you're just going to be waiting a while for an Android solution, on a device/platform that does not need it as much as something like the HD2/WinMo did. Hence why there is little to no progress on getting Android on this device.
I got a whopper from bk but i want mcdonalds fries to go with it... Nuff said.
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scrminsqrl said:
I got a whopper from bk but i want mcdonalds fries to go with it... Nuff said.
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And I would like to get Android on this device so for the sake of entertainment
Although WM7 better Android
To mods, there is already a dedicated android for hd7 thread here, could this thread be locked please?
prjkthack said:
The only reason to bash I can see, is the lack of people reading and realizing that there is a dedicated Android thread just a couple lines above, where stuff like this should have been posted. Haha...
Otherwise, there is just very little interest in getting Android on this device, which means that it makes more sense to go buy an Android phone, because you're just going to be waiting a while for an Android solution, on a device/platform that does not need it as much as something like the HD2/WinMo did. Hence why there is little to no progress on getting Android on this device.
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Oh no, I saw it, but after going through it, I didn't think it would get noticed in there.
adesonic said:
To mods, there is already a dedicated android for hd7 thread here, could this thread be locked please?
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This is what I'm talking about...just fyi. I couldn't care less about getting android on this phone, because I don't have this phone (if you can read). This is just a note to all of you.
argentocruz said:
Throwing android on the HD2 was always going to be an improvement... I had an HD2 and threw WP7 on it, which is why I now have an HD7... But if you liked android and the HD2, why not get the Desire HD?
Gotta love the versatility of all these HTC devices though...
I think its human nature to want something different or odd... I'm sure if it were easy to get android or WP7 on an iphone, heaps would do it just to be different...
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Because when I am able to get a new subsidized phone, it will definitely be something better than a Desire HD. I just have to wait for my contract to end first, which is in January.
no body until now find an android rom for hd7
android mozart
http://translate.googleusercontent....=61601&usg=ALkJrhjDUJ4y6X_X9fY2trv-TYbXrwtycQ
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http://translate.googleusercontent....=61601&usg=ALkJrhjDUJ4y6X_X9fY2trv-TYbXrwtycQ
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if this is true then why dont you buy a mozart and try this rom...
The overall WP7 posse hardly resembles the WM crowd.
I've been a die hard Windows fan ever since my AT&T 8525-even before that with a couple PPC PDA's. When I lost that phone I replaced it with a Samsung Epix. Despite my horrible experience software fiascoes and the Epix, I still returned to Window's Mobile when I got my Tilt2. It was while I was dealing with my Epix that I discovered a cooked rom on a site that I had not previously heard of, XDA Developers. I now use this site a my primary guide to purchase new phones...if I can't hack it and install custom roms I have no interest in it.
Through my time with my Tilt2 I made some observations about the Windows Mobile community. Many of them were like me and had over time found many CABs that work well for them and were content with a platform that the were familiar with. Many of them were veteran programmers well versed in C++ and could really do some magic. Others just signed a two year contract with the cheapest old smart phones their provider was clearing out. What ever the reason we had our devices in a world where IOS and Android were rapidly taking over. Every one worked together and amazing things were accomplished. In the Touch Pro 2 forums, Android and Ubuntu was running, and a lot of you are familiar with everything that was done with the HD2. These things happened because WM fans by nature enjoyed doing them.
As Windows Mobile phones started to die off through breakage and device upgrades, a lot of my companions switch gears to the Iphone after it made great strides since the first gen EDGE only model, in OS capability, hardware performace, and a now enormous hacking community. Others who wanted remain anti Apple and wanted more freedom out of the box went with Android.
It finally came to my time in the begining of this year to upgrade. I knew very little about Windows Phone 7 devices except that I did not know a single person who owned one and that it was not backwards compatible with any of my software. Being completely anti Apple I began shopping around fully intending to buy an Android device. I started playing with floor models and I noticed one thing about every Android device. No matter how fast the hardware was, when I would touch and slide to unlock, there was always a noticeable lag. I found that to be a bad sign. Then when navigating the phones, they all lack the responsiveness of my wifes Iphone 4. So I tried the Windows Phone devices and they were all incredibly responsive. In all the menus and and web browser I slide my finger rapidly trying to out run the display and I swear I could not find any where that lagged. I was intrigued and hooked. After checking XDA and of all the WP7 phones available to me with AT&T, the HD7s was the only one with custom roms.
I believe this to be the only reason any of us here. Window Phone 7's foundation is simply flawless. Now that's not to say over all the OS is any where near perfect. It is severely lacking in software, customization, and even basic preferences. It is in these ways I've described WP7 as ever more "iPhone" than the iPhone itself. Now all this mean's is the biggest reason any body has a WP7 device is because the actually like it. So it's not far from reason there is little interest in changing operating systems. We've reached a point were all smart phones have virtually equal internal hardware so phone are chosen primarily based on software. The people who find themselves stuck with an HD7 against their liking are a very small fraction of an already small community. Those coming from an HD2 or a Rodium know that to get Anrdroid onto these devices took countless man hours from many very determined and very talented people working together. They just aren't with us here in the HD7 community. We are lucky to have the very talented developers that are here producing custom Windows ROMs.
Own android nd wm7/hd7
I agree with all of you but, with that said this is my take on it. I am using Simple Mobile $60 unlimited plan by the way just so everyone knows. I have both a htc hd7 with a 32gb sd in it- its running mango. I also have three android phones. HTC wildfire s in white, Samsung Vibrant, Htc mytouch 4g(my only 4g phone). Starting from the top. All my android phones have custom roms installed and are rooted. I love android as much as the next guy cause when I use those phones I love the apps and love that I have all of them nearly maxed out on there performance figures due to the roms and overclocking.
This being said all my android phones still can not keep up with my hd7 in everyday use when you talk about smoothness. Like the guy before me was saying as well how all the android phones he tested lagged when unlocking. That is still the same situation here with me after installing custom roms which did make the phones faster and after overclocking made then even faster. But even with my hd7 running a stock mango rom it still is the phone that I use most because of the smoothness and responsiveness that it has when using it for normal everyday smartphone activities like gps, internet browsing, watching videos, playing music, and texting and calling of course. This stock oem wm7.5 mango hd7 works better at all these things than any of my android phones.
This being said I would like to have android on the device as a dual boot that way I would get rid of my other android phones and just have this one phone for both. But, I would still use wm most of the time, which is the reason that I think ppl who own an hd7 or any other wm7 or 7.5 phone own them cause everything works great. and yes i agree with the other guy before me in saying that it does need more development in customizations and applications. but where it lacks here it makes up for in performance and ease of use. so in my opinion there is a plus and minus to both android phones and wm phones. the only question is which one will correct there downfalls first. apples will not be talked about with me cause i hate them but, as far as wm and droid go both need improvements.
Going with this thread this would be my reason for why i think no one has really developed an android system for this device yet cause unlike the android devices the hd7 does everything the way a smartphone should. I would dual boot but, i would never wipe wm7.5 off of it cause that would just be stupid and would be like downgrading. performance wise wm7 > android anyday until android fixes their laggy os.
Have you guys seen this
http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/htc-hd7-gets-android-via-cooked-chinese-rom-video
Relax Suc**** its on the way ...
Thats not a real HTC HD7 its a fake chinese imitation!!!!!!! that video is old