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Hi there, just got SGS but kinda disoppointed with its Tv out quality. Ok I know its standard tv not the HDMI but the videos I saw on YouTube, the playing movie looked so awesome but on my display (LG 23" LCD TV) 720p videos looks ugly and not evrn full screen ... Can anybody have idea how to play videos in full screen mode on tv?
Overall it's a great phone though
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Saeen said:
Hi there, just got SGS but kinda disoppointed with its Tv out quality. Ok I know its standard tv not the HDMI but the videos I saw on YouTube, the playing movie looked so awesome but on my display (LG 23" LCD TV) 720p videos looks ugly and not evrn full screen ... Can anybody have idea how to play videos in full screen mode on tv?
Overall it's a great phone though
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For full screen make sure your video player is in the right mode (I use Zimly which has 3 different display modes). Also your LCD may have different options for keeping aspect ration, etc... look to see if it has an 'auto adjust' option.
I love being able to just carry a small cable and be able to watch on the big screen whenever I'm in a hotel, etc..
Ah i see. I'll try different video players. Thanks
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I currently have CM7 installed, and the HDMI mirroring works great. But when I view photos, the resolution is not 1080p, it's the resolution of the screen. Is this possible to view photos at 1080p resolution over HDMI on CM7 or stock ROM?
This is the main problem of this STUPID hdmi out. It's only mirroring. that means the resolution of the screen is the ONLY resolution in OUTPUT.
then the 800x480 resolution is upscaled.
Viewwing photos or video we had the same problem: also video in full hd that this phone can play smoothly, BUT the hdmi out is ONLY 800x480...so...it's useless that this phone can decode full-hd video....
When watching video over HDMI is look better than 800x480?
When I record an HD video on my phone, the play it via HDMI out, it seems to be full HD. I was hoping there was a way to do that for photos... I guess not. Perhaps it can be a feature in CM7 or something.
just last sunday i was watching 1080P on friends TV. no problems!
Or you think you did.
Everything is downscaled to phones screen resolution (480x800) and then on HDMI out stretched to 1080p just so that our TV's don't have problems with it. That's why it is not pure 1080p, and that's why it doesn't really make sense to force HD videos on phones.
Use PC, media players or anything else HD capable instead.
Dac0908 said:
Or you think you did.
Everything is downscaled to phones screen resolution (480x800) and then on HDMI out stretched to 1080p just so that our TV's don't have problems with it. That's why it is not pure 1080p, and that's why it doesn't really make sense to force HD videos on phones.
Use PC, media players or anything else HD capable instead.
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No. True for photos displayed on the phone, yes, but not for video. When playing video (at least with the stock player) it no longer does mirroring, it outputs a true hd-image.
Dac0908 said:
Or you think you did.
Everything is downscaled to phones screen resolution (480x800) and then on HDMI out stretched to 1080p just so that our TV's don't have problems with it. That's why it is not pure 1080p, and that's why it doesn't really make sense to force HD videos on phones.
Use PC, media players or anything else HD capable instead.
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you know you can see on 55" led tv if you are wathing 1080p or something ells!
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No. True for photos displayed on the phone, yes, but not for video. When playing video (at least with the stock player) it no longer does mirroring, it outputs a true hd-image.
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Well that's an improvement then. Good news, for some people.
HDMI was for me one of biggest advantages O2x had few months ago, and now I find it almost useless. Yes, it's there and it totally works, I bought the cable and HDMI coupler so I can extend it with another one - but never really use it. Photos were always too blurry to care (when displayed on TV, camera is decent), videos are not so practical even though they work better than I expected, some using stock player and some using MX Video Player.
I have PC connected to TV, Picasa, media server, and PS3 which work far better. Oh well. Still, phone makes a damned good remote controller
It's not an improvement. It's been that way since the phone was released.
Still its a pain in the ass that it won't work with photos.
Dac0908 said:
Or you think you did.
Everything is downscaled to phones screen resolution (480x800) and then on HDMI out stretched to 1080p just so that our TV's don't have problems with it. That's why it is not pure 1080p, and that's why it doesn't really make sense to force HD videos on phones.
Use PC, media players or anything else HD capable instead.
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your information is wrong, it outputs in full hd.
If it were outputting at just 800by400 on your hd tv you would bloody notice because it would be pixelated and difficult to make anything out if it had been stretched that far to fit a large tv..... .
OMG seriously, really?
My post was already debunked by TrymHansen. Try to write something useful, ok? Quoting it again is just counterproductive
Anyway, part about HD video is debunked, I was wrong and life goes on. But I still stand behind blurry low-res photo gallery and that is the topic here.
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OMG seriously, really?
My post was already debunked by TrymHansen. Try to write something useful, ok? Quoting it again is just counterproductive
Anyway, part about HD video is debunked, I was wrong and life goes on. But I still stand behind blurry low-res photo gallery and that is the topic here.
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I'm totally with you at this. I can not help the fact that most of the people are blind and can not recognise the quality and resolution of a picture or video.
The hdmi output for the photos are totally unusable, it displays the photos in low resolution and low color depth.
when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
Robbilie said:
when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
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There are actually very few 4.3"phones with 720p displays. So for this size screen it's actually a fairly typical resolution.
Change it by getting a different phone.
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i guess this is the most senseless answer but ok
Senseless, but also pointless
Robbilie said:
when i enter the RAZR i forum i see the phones resolution:
4.30" - 540x960
REALLY?! such a low resolution on such a big screen?!
Is there a way to change that?
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Sincerely, having owned the galaxy nexus and galaxy s3 (much too large for my use), I do not see big differences in display quality ... maybe it's my eyes ... :laugh:
It really has the ideal size this device, as the Lumia 800, but with a 4.3 "screen ... :good:
Remember, this is a mid-range device as well. Mid range devices at this price point rarely have higher res screens. If ever.
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Remember, this is a mid-range device as well
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only in price!
I dont have updates ybout this but if it is possible to connect to a tv via hdmi, how would this resolution appear? xD
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i guess this is the most senseless answer but ok
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How is my answer senseless? Or do you not speak English? I directly answered your question.
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Robbilie said:
I dont have updates ybout this but if it is possible to connect to a tv via hdmi, how would this resolution appear? xD
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Your logic is strange. If its running through HDMI why would the phones screen matter?
It would be running at the TVs resolution.
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doesnt it still show to phones screen?
so it cant have annother ratio and such than the device has itself right?
never had a phone which was capable of hdmi output so i am just guessing...
Because of Google's takeover, Motorola was made to strip out all of its own software - and I'm told this is also the reason there's no HDMI/MHL socket. We're quite lucky that there's a memory card slot, although you can't copy apps (and app data) on to a memory card - so for some people that have loads of apps or use Spotify with offline music, it will be like the memory card doesn't exist.
I am not that upset, as I didn't really care for any of the Motorola apps/bloatware and quite like the fact that, bar the Motorola launcher, it's virtually like having a Motorola Nexus.
I actually don't connect my phones to a TV that often anyway. I've got tablets that can do that if I want (and I rarely do, despite always thinking I might). For watching photos and video on my (Smart) TV I use Wi-Fi, which is more convenient - and works just fine with the Razr i.
As for the screen resolution; having come from a Sony Xperia S with a 4.3-inch HD display (342PPI?), I was expecting to be unable to live with the screen on the Razr i - but that hasn't happened either. I am not sure what the PPI is now, but it's still high enough that I can't really make out the pixels - and even the PenTile matrix isn't an issue unless I get really close up. One exception is when you have thin(ish) text in colours like red, which can be a bit hard to read.
Anyway, 960x540 isn't a terrible resolution at all. 1280x720 would be nice, but I've come to learn that it isn't essential and I really am not sure why the industry is going to be rushing to do 1920x1080 next year on screens of only 5-inches or so. That will be a stupid pixels-per-inch density and you're now going beyond what the eye can make out anyway. First megapixels, then MHz and cores, and now PPI/DPI. Madness!
Razr i is 256DPI. It's not bad at all.
Not so far a GS3 which as 305DPI.. but cost lot much money
And qHD as the avantage to be Quarter the size of HD resolution, It fits great for diplaying HD content.
Robbilie said:
doesnt it still show to phones screen?
so it cant have annother ratio and such than the device has itself right?
never had a phone which was capable of hdmi output so i am just guessing...
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Well the galaxy s3 when connected switches to 1080p resolution. To fit the t.v.
Doesn't matter anyway since it has no HDMI.
And when Google took over Motorola they made someone else CEO but its still independent of Google a separate company.
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My TV is 720p old TV. Chrome starting up showing after that blank black screen only sound works. I tried with my friends TV its working Fine. Please tell me how to fix?
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We have no idea or enough info to even try and help. It's like saying my car won't start but my neighbors does, what's wrong?
What TV do you have the issue with? Is it hooked up directly to the TVs HDMI port?
Have you tried a different HDMI cable?
How do you have the Chromecast connected, USB or outlet?
Dose it work with other HDMI TVs/monitors on YOUR network?
Have you tried casting from and Android device, PC or both?
Basically you have to give some details. All we have right now is:
1. older TV
2. 720p
3. Audio but no video
not much to go on.
I guess if it an older TV it's possible there's some kind of incapability.
I am having the same problem so I'll try and provide more info.
I am using Chromecast in hotels. These TVs have not been updated in ages. The current one I am checking on is a LG 32LC5DC TV. I believe it is a known issue that Chromecast can only display 1080p format. So basically the video does not work but audio does.
What I am curious about is that it worked one time on the same TV model. For the life of me, I cannot get it work again.
My chromecast works fine on an older 720P Samsung plasma that does not support a 1080P signal input. Not sure if the tv will accept 1080i.
Most likely the Chromecast is relying on the TV to report back via HDMI whether it supports 720p or 1080p, and then it selects the appropriate resolution. But if the TV is too old, it might not report anything, causing the Chromecast to default to 1080p.
I don't think the Chromecast does any auto-detect at all. On my 720p TV the info screen clearly shows that it's getting a 1080p signal. So Chromecast sends at 1080p no matter what, and if your TV does not display 1080p then it must be able to downconvert or it won't show any image at all.
In my experience the Chromecast does do some communication. I hooked it up to a VGA monitor through an HDfury2 (which doesn't scale) and the monitor reported a 720p (1280x720) signal.
Meanwhile my 1080p TV says it's getting 1080p.
On boot-up, the splash screen seems to be 480p, but I've never successfully gotten the Chromecast to output 480p past boot, despite disabling resolutions via EDID updates on the display end.
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My TV is 720p old TV. Chrome starting up showing after that blank black screen only sound works. I tried with my friends TV its working Fine. Please tell me how to fix?
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I have the same tv, i can not use my chromecast you have any solution ?????
sorry for my bad english
ricrob said:
I have the same tv, i can not use my chromecast you have any solution ?????
sorry for my bad english
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Please provide the manufacturer and model number of your TV.
bhiga said:
Please provide the manufacturer and model number of your TV.
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LG 32LC5DC
Model no: 32LC5DC - UA.AUSYLJT
Serial No.: 801RMJF135204
thanks
ricrob said:
LG 32LC5DC
Model no: 32LC5DC - UA.AUSYLJT
Serial No.: 801RMJF135204
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Thanks. I do know that Chromecast can output 1280x720.
Your TV seems to be one of the types where different HDMI ports have different capabilities (I hate that).
HDMI 1 seems to support both Computer and Video resolutions/timings.
HDMI 2 supports only Video resolutions/timings.
Make sure you have the TV on when you plug power into the Chromecast. That'll ensure it can negotiate the supported resolution properly.
If that still doesn't work, remove power from Chromecast, move Chromecast to the other HDMI port, then power up Chromecast and see if that works.
2 to 1 Odds it's the TV not the Chromecast.
And Hotels are notorious for disabling HDMI Ports on their TVs!
All it takes is one bad pin on the connector to make the entire input not work.
Hey, I'm about to buy a chromecast, but there are something that stops me. If I have a phone with quad hd resolution, does it stream in that resolution on the tv, or does it stream up to 1080P?
Another question is, is there any known issues with the chromecast? I just want to be sure.
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Well you can't tab cast from your phone. It streams directly from the internet and doesn't display mirror. So it will stream whatever the source content and your TV resolutions are.
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PortalOfGaming said:
Hey, I'm about to buy a chromecast, but there are something that stops me. If I have a phone with quad hd resolution, does it stream in that resolution on the tv, or does it stream up to 1080P?
Another question is, is there any known issues with the chromecast? I just want to be sure.
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Quad HD? Like UltraHD (3840x2160)?
Casting local media directly (via Avia, RealPlayer Cloud, or Allcast for rooted Chromecasts) is as-is, no conversion of the media happens, and Chromecast will play the media if it is capable of decoding it.
I don't think Chromecast can decode UltraHD as it tends to have trouble with 1080p and high (>10 Mbps) bitrates, but I'm not 100% on that. I can use AllCast to send a 1080p video I shot on my phone, but there's a little bit of pause now and then.
As far as known issues, some old TVs that report 1080p support but don't actually display correctly have trouble. Some Yamaha receivers are having some trouble with the latest firmware.
Most other issues are either in progress or have already been taken care of via updates on the application side.
A tiny number of reports of Chromecasts being "bricked" but probably normal or better for the number of Chromecasts out in the wild.
There is a phone with QuadHD resolution?!??!??!??!? LOL
There is a lot of Misinformation regarding resolution in the Phone business I assure you...
Cameras that say they shoot 1080P in most cases don't. The Chip (CMOS for the most part) does not have a REAL 1080P resolution. What it does is take the native resolution of the camera (usually much lower) and SAVE THE FILE in 1080P by simply upconverting it.
And Upconverting doesn't ADD resolution or Quality it just doubles the size of each pixel to fill in all the pixels of the higher resolution.
You may find a phone or Camera that says it supports 4K but in truth it is not a REAL 4K! The File will read and display on a 4K device but your not really getting the FULL RESOLUTION a 4K video has when captured natively in a TRUE 4K.
The Chips that receive the image from the lens are not large enough to do a true 4K. It is merely upconverted when saved to that format.
Like taking a single pixel and repeating it 3 more time to make a pixel 4 times the size of the original where in a REAL 4K each pixel can be different and rarely are the same (maybe similar but not the same)
Now these chips are improving by leaps and bounds so in time they may even do these resolutions for real...But by then we will also have things like 16K because the bigger cameras with have 3/4" and 1' CCDs or CMOS' will advance from the technology as well.
I'm sorry regarding quad hd, english is not my first language, and when I meant quad hd, I actually meant 960x540. I know alot about resolution, but I didn't mean 4K. Before 2K and 4K, there was quad hd as 960x540.
I have good internet, so I don't worry about that.
Thank you all for your answers, I'm going to buy a chromecast when I come home.
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PortalOfGaming said:
I'm sorry regarding quad hd, english is not my first language, and when I meant quad hd, I actually meant 960x540. I know alot about resolution, but I didn't mean 4K. Before 2K and 4K, there was quad hd as 960x540.
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Ahh, I see qHD from the computer realm. Thanks for teaching me something new! :good:
I have some VGA (640x480) videos and from Avia they play picture-boxed (black border on all sides, because Avia does not alter the video). So it will likely depend on what application you use and what Chromecast decides to do in terms of scaling, if it has any (I don't know).
I think the biggest reason it can't do 1080p natively is because it's wireless G. I can only hope Google decides to release another chromecast or something else like it with wireless AC.
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It's wireless N which is more than adequate. It depends more on latency and bitrate of their media compared to that processing power of the Chromecast hardware.
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bhiga said:
It's wireless N which is more than adequate. It depends more on latency and bitrate of their media compared to that processing power of the Chromecast hardware.
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It can't do 5GHz, and its horrible at streaming HD movies from Google Play movies. You mention processing as if the Chromecast is transcoding. None of this would be a problem if it could do 5GHz and had an AC chip.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7186/google-chromecast-review-an-awesome-35-hdmi-dongle/2
Edit - My Samsung UN46F6300 is also terrible at streaming HD content over it's Wi-Fi (also 2.4GHz), but connecting the tv's Ethernet to my WD wireless AC bridge alleviates all this.
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Yes the 2.4 GHz band is not optimal as it's crowded but latency issues aside, it's fine.
The hardware still matters because most hardwareand appliance-oriented decoders have limits to the maximum bitrate it can decode due to buffer and memory limits.
It's much different to more general CPUs which can allocate more memory and have more CPU power to adjust.
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Jocelyn said:
It can't do 5GHz, and its horrible at streaming HD movies from Google Play movies. You mention processing as if the Chromecast is transcoding. None of this would be a problem if it could do 5GHz and had an AC chip.
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Well I'm pretty sure GPlay does some transcoding but not 100% sure. In any case If the unit is having issues playing the video over 2.4Ghz the issue is really the Video Bitrate needs to be lowered enough to stream without issue. In the end no one is getting full HD 1080P on any device over ANY wired or wireless network because Full HD uncompressed has a Bitrate of over 1.49 Gbps. Far beyond standard Ethernet standards which is why we use Fiber Optic for broadcast and even then we compress the hell out of it before you ever see it.
So pretty much all HD we are playing is not really full HD.
Can you play 1080P locally?
PortalOfGaming said:
I'm sorry regarding quad hd, english is not my first language, and when I meant quad hd, I actually meant 960x540. I know alot about resolution, but I didn't mean 4K. Before 2K and 4K, there was quad hd as 960x540.
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Ahhh no Problem...You meant quarterHD actually...
You wouldn't have confused us if NHK and a Consortium hadn't actually invented QuadHD for Broadcast! bhiga and I both work in broadcast and were recently talking about it.
Well, I forgot that it was Quarter HD, but it's okay now, since I have aleardy ordered it. Again, thanks for your help guys.
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