[Q] Freaky i9000M problems - any idea why/what/who??? - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I need some advice please. Have had a number of odd happenings with my i9000 in the last 24hrs and not sure if some of them are the fault of the phone, or my fault! Apologies up front too for the long post – didn’t know how to put it all more succinctly!
First things first – it’s a Galaxy i9000M Bell vibrant. Came as Éclair 2.1, upgraded recently via Kies to Froyo 2.2, Build UGKC1. Then rooted with SuperOneClick, successfully without drama. Can get into recovery and download modes no problem via 3-button method.
Bit of background info – int SD 16GB, inserted 16GB ext SD. Before any upgrade to the phone had some issues where some photos taken with camera on the phone would show up in gallery as a corrupted/damaged icon. Pretty sure this occurred on default int SD so changed save location to ext SD but same deal now and then. Formatted ext SD – still happened from time to time. Actually replaced ext SD (exchanged at shop with brand new one), but same thing happened again. Figured I’d learn to live with it as only happened now and then.
So, phone rooted last week. Had been doing reading on ROMs/kernels before trying to flash anything. Only root-type things I’d done were to get TiB (and do full backup), Root Explorer, Terminal Emulator and Wireless Tether. Y’day I noticed after taking a few pics that one of the ‘corrupt’ icons that had previously been in place of an older photo, was now in the spot of one of the pics I had just taken (and strangely, the older, apparently corrupted photo was now fine).
I tried to delete a few of the photos but the phone just got stuck trying to delete. Had to force close it with task manager. Same deal if I tried 1 or many photos. Did this a number of times but no joy. Eventually just took ext SD out, put it into PC and deleted them that way, then put back into phone. Now it took AGES to complete the media scan on ext SD – like 5-10 mins! This happened a couple of times if I tried to do anything with the SD eg. save a file to it. So reformatted the SD card (on PC) but same prob when put back in phone.
Figured it might finally be time to try a new kernel in hope it may fix this bug. Had speedmod all ready to go (but hadn't been brave enough yet to try my first flash) so flashed K13E-500Hz via Odin. It worked fine, but “media scanning” problem was still there. Figured I might as well go the whole hog so factory reset the phone via recovery 3e. Did this ok, and “media scanning” was no longer a prob when I put the ext SD card in, just took a couple of seconds – hooray!
Restored apps + system using TiB which also appeared at first to work fine. Put a few pics and ringtones on the ext SD and all seemed fine. Then some app icons disappeared from the Applications pages. They appeared ‘crossed out’ in TiB and when I went to restore them again the phone spazzed out saying (sorry can’t recall exact wording) there was not enough memory and to delete some things to try to fix this. A red SD-like icon appeared in the top bar. I tried rebooting the phone via recovery 3e and it went into a cycle of vibrating, flashing up the turn-on screen/display then shutting off, but vibrating occasionally and lighting the soft touch keys but nothing else. This did this for about 5 mins and in order to try to save battery/stop the whole process I ended up factory resetting yet again via recovery.
Today it works 'ok'. Have not braved putting an ext SD in yet! Got Tib off the market but have also not dared to try to restore any thing yet. Oddly, in TiB it shows “System ROM” as almost fully taken up ie. Full green bar (289MB, only 6.06MB free) – this can’t be right can it?
Internal, DB data and SD card all show as ~99% free.
Deleted Dalvik cache in case that was the RAM problem but it didn’t do anything much (freed up about 6MB only).
So, my questions!
1. is this all because of the ‘corrupt/damaged’ issues before I’d done anything to my phone?
1b) How do I find out what RAM is available and what is using it all up? RAM manager is showing 197MB/339MB used but is this what the 'memory' problem would be? Clearing memory doesn't seem to do anything.
2. I never installed any kind of lagfix (knowingly anyway) – could this be a reason - have seen lots of threads/posts about disabling lagfix before flashing roms or kernels
3. I thought factory reset would wipe everything – but it obviously kept the int SD info ok (I’d copied Tib backup to ext SD and also to dropbox just in case) –should I maybe reformat the int SD and factory reset again?
4. If the issue is the phone itself (with prior corrupt file problem) – would it be worth flashing back to stock kernel and unrooting phone to try to bring back and get fixed/replaced under warranty?
Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer!!!!!!

Read your hole post its really long. Can't answer to all questions. But did you try to put your phone as massage storage to your pc and mark everything thats on int sd and just erease it. When turn your phone off, put it in download mode and flash a stock rom (with 3 files) from samfirmware.com with repartition enabled? Maybe that works. Good luck! Before i forgot ext 4 is the better filesystem. Rfs getting laggy after a while cause its not the correct filesystem for sgs. Thats why ext4 is the main format on sgs2.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

hey thanks for the reply.
i know it was a super-long post, apologies again.
didn't try deleting the ext SD whilst connected via usb. got fed up with the phone not being able to delete & freezing when i tried that way so just took SD out and deleted them with card plugged directly into laptop.
as it happens, since 2nd factory reset, i've been cautious about what i do. no ext SD yet (though might try that tomorrow). didn't do full restore of missing apps and system files as i did the first time. so far have only restored about 6apps via TiB and wifi locations. Phone working ok...for now.
next steps:
1. try taking loads of photos to see if 'corrupt'-style icons occur again with int SD only;
2. maybe try an ext SD again after reformatting it and see how the media scanning goes and how it goes having music/vid/pic files on it etc;
3. gonna look more into the speedmod kernel ie. the tweaks which i think i need to access via recovery mode.
not quite ready to try and flash a custom rom with that little scare!
...but would like to try a custom rom at some point when i feel more educated about all this

Just look at the search function on xda or google. There enough guides about flashing. Know how you feel. The first time i flashing it was very scary for me. Got a heartbeat like a technosong. If you want i can write you a guide for every step. Trust me it is easier as it sounds. Just pm me and i will help you out.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Related

[Q] Help! Corrupted internal SD Card and can't find a way to wipe

First, some background:
I've had the S for 2 months now and about a month ago I applied JG5/Modaco r2 and Mimocam lag fix. All was well, 1800+ benchmark figures and no lag at all. That was until a few days ago....
As I was reading on the device, a number of errors started to pop up, force closes, etc. It stopped responding completely so I took the battery out and rebooted. Straight away I was hit with multiple force close and 'process stopped unexpectedly' messages. Basically, it was an unusable brick.
When I took the SD card out the errors were different so, figuring it was related to the Mimocam fix, I decided to undo it. I removed the symlink to the sd card and copied everything to the local data directory.
That didn't work, so I did a hard reset. Which also didn't work. Worse than that, I now can't get the phone to connect in any way to the PC so can't reflash and I can't access any settings on the phone because the error messages keep appearing and obscuring the screen.
Last thing I tried was repartitioning the SD card to see if the ext3 partition was corrupt and that hasn't helped either.
Which is where I am now. What I really want to do is wipe the internal SD and effect a total factory reset but I can't think of any way to do it. I can't access the phone through adb (device not found), Kies (keeps trying to connect but never does) and I can't do it through the phone. I also can't send it back because it has 'flashed rom' written all over it, especially when a root request pops up in the background.
I'm all out of ideas, short of trying to degauss it somehow.
Help! Please!
You cant get it into download mode ?
Kilack said:
You cant get it into download mode ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Or recovery mode: format sd card, clear cache etc ?
Turn the phone off, hold Home + Vol -, then press Power.
I don't see how you can get error messages there...
Doesn't work, I can't get it in to recovery mode. Neither vol up or down work using the 3 button hold. I've tried repeatedly and it just boots as normal, although the animation doesn't display while it boots but it does play the audio.
So I take it I'm f***ed then?
bumping this up and subscribing. I hope you find a solution soon, man.
if you know what your firmware was, get it from samsung-firmwares, get odin, and flash your phone. maybe that will solve your problem.
Keep in mind that I wont be responsible if your phone gets bricked if you mess up the procedure (however the chances of it being bricked is very less if you follow the instructions properly).
search the forum for flashing via odin.
emclondon said:
if you know what your firmware was, get it from samsung-firmwares, get odin, and flash your phone. maybe that will solve your problem.
Keep in mind that I wont be responsible if your phone gets bricked if you mess up the procedure (however the chances of it being bricked is very less if you follow the instructions properly).
search the forum for flashing via odin.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He said he cant get it into download mode so would be quite hard to flash with odin then...
No, I've tried over and over and d/l mode doesn't work. The phone just reboots.
LeeJS said:
No, I've tried over and over and d/l mode doesn't work. The phone just reboots.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try the Vol + Recovery mode. The timing is a bit tricky.
On my phone, if I keep Vol+, Home and Power button held down, the phone goes into a reboot loop (it keeps showing the logo, blank, logo, blank). After the logo appears the 2nd time, wait 1 second then release the Power button. Then it goes into the Recovery mode.
If you can't get it to work, try it without the USB/power plugged in as well.
Tried settings/sd card and phone storage/unmount internal sd/format? Or u could do settings/security/factory reset
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
I can't really try that because, as I said, I can't get past any of the error messages that pop up on the phone.
Have had to bite the bullet and take it in to T-mo for a repair and hope they don't notice
Will find out in 28 days.
I had a similar problem with JPC. After a while both the internal and external sd cards crapped out. After pulling the external sd and many tries I was able to boot into recovery mode where it says something like E: cant mount etc.
After pulling the ext sd card I was able to get into download mode and downgrade to JM7 with odin. After formatting with odin. It took two tries.
I still don't have access or storage on both the int and ext sd. I have roughly 2gb storage on the internal non-sd memory of the phone (i am not sure what it is but its enough to run android and I can make calls).
I can't install apps use the camera or anything that uses either of the sd cards for storage.
I did try a new sd card that was installed on the phone when it was stock FW but it doesnt work either.
I have a thread posted about it.
LeeJS said:
First, some background:
I've had the S for 2 months now and about a month ago I applied JG5/Modaco r2 and Mimocam lag fix. All was well, 1800+ benchmark figures and no lag at all. That was until a few days ago....
As I was reading on the device, a number of errors started to pop up, force closes, etc. It stopped responding completely so I took the battery out and rebooted. Straight away I was hit with multiple force close and 'process stopped unexpectedly' messages. Basically, it was an unusable brick.
When I took the SD card out the errors were different so, figuring it was related to the Mimocam fix, I decided to undo it. I removed the symlink to the sd card and copied everything to the local data directory.
That didn't work, so I did a hard reset. Which also didn't work. Worse than that, I now can't get the phone to connect in any way to the PC so can't reflash and I can't access any settings on the phone because the error messages keep appearing and obscuring the screen.
Last thing I tried was repartitioning the SD card to see if the ext3 partition was corrupt and that hasn't helped either.
Which is where I am now. What I really want to do is wipe the internal SD and effect a total factory reset but I can't think of any way to do it. I can't access the phone through adb (device not found), Kies (keeps trying to connect but never does) and I can't do it through the phone. I also can't send it back because it has 'flashed rom' written all over it, especially when a root request pops up in the background.
I'm all out of ideas, short of trying to degauss it somehow.
Help! Please!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
am wondering, did your phone ever work with the three button mode to enter download/recovery ? or did you always flash using "adb reboot recovery" ?
solipsism said:
I had a similar problem with JPC. After a while both the internal and external sd cards crapped out. After pulling the external sd and many tries I was able to boot into recovery mode where it says something like E: cant mount etc.
After pulling the ext sd card I was able to get into download mode and downgrade to JM7 with odin. After formatting with odin. It took two tries.
I still don't have access or storage on both the int and ext sd. I have roughly 2gb storage on the internal non-sd memory of the phone (i am not sure what it is but its enough to run android and I can make calls).
I can't install apps use the camera or anything that uses either of the sd cards for storage.
I did try a new sd card that was installed on the phone when it was stock FW but it doesnt work either.
I have a thread posted about it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you ever find a solution to this problem?
mkurzum said:
Did you ever find a solution to this problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is posted in several threads in all of the 19000 forums that there is no fix for this. Your only option is to send it in for repair.
mkurzum said:
Did you ever find a solution to this problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it would be nice if there was a way.
I agree with Electroz.
there is a new software out by Samsung
new PC Studio, it comes with a feature to "Emergency Restore"
you can try that, and see if that does anything to the internal SD
links are on the SGS wiki, click my link
AllGamer said:
it would be nice if there was a way.
I agree with Electroz.
there is a new software out by Samsung
new PC Studio, it comes with a feature to "Emergency Restore"
you can try that, and see if that does anything to the internal SD
links are on the SGS wiki, click my link
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll give it a shot, downloading now.
I'm not sure where to send my phone in, I called samsung, they sent me to bell, but I bought my phone from best buy and I'm with fido...
It sees both drives, but that's about it, when I try to click on them it just says "insert the disk into drive ..."
There has to be a way to format the internal card with a third party application. I'm gonna keep looking.

[Q] Can't wipe internal SD, can't replace update.zip file etc

Hi Folks,
I've been searching all over the internet for 2 days and trying many ways to fix my european Galaxy S i9000 but i havent find any information that could help me on this task.
The device is unrooted, is running Eclair 2.1update1, firmware XJWMJ8, the final part on the firmware update I could not make it because every time I tranfer the "update.zip" file (139mb), I shut down the device and go to recovery mode... try to execute the file and it dont go trough the end, it means does not work properly.
When the device restarts I can see on the root of the Internal SD are the old "update.zip" file (only 1.5mb).
I even tried format the internal SD card trough the PC running windows xp, it took long time to do it, after all I transfered again the 139mb update.zip file and tried again the flash trough recovery mode, what I surprise I had because I could not make it again... but when I got back to the internal SD card there was everything as before I formatted.
I also tried format inside the android, there shows 13.43GB total space and 9.86 available space, after I unmount the SD card and format, it gets back just like before (13.43GB/9.86GB) just like I ever did format.
The i9000 after boot comes up tons of messages about apps which needs force close, they come many times and is about all app on the device, they keep coming until I can not get to see the LCD screen anymore. I tried erase all information many times, I tried to delete older accounts and nothing works, I can't access the market. It seens to not be bricked but also can not be fixed...
My only help now is there somebody had something like it could explain here how to fix.
I am still thinking that is something about the internal SD card and I can not wipe the information on it, since the information keeps getting back to it, like an automatic backup pulled by a trigger everytime I tried to wipe the info.
Is there any way to acess the Device's RAM to check the content or search over the device about the location where these files might be saved?
I cannot install ClockWorkMod recovery because the issue with the update.zip file, I havent tried the CF-Root because I am not sure which one I need, so as you can see: I am almost tied to this situation.
Any help would be very appreciated.
Thank you very much.
Paulo
Flash a new firmware using Odin and all your problems will go away.
Thanks.
I already made it several times with many different firmwares, all had the same results and so I stopped to do it and leave the device with this last one, at least until I know other options.
Wipe the lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818556
Use Block 2 Odin method .
jje

Installing a new ROM Borked my Caps SD cards?

I recently updated my cappy from Phoenix rising to Continuum following all instructions in the first couple posts except for flashing back to stock. "Including enabling lagfix"
Everything seemed to be running perfect. Rebooted a couple times to see how it behaved, plugged it in and turned in for the night. Seemed to be fine in the morning while I surfed the web, played games, etc. I ended up losing data service (a constant problem I get with custom ROMs that I've never been able to shake) so I rebooted, which normally solves the problem.
Instead, this time appears that all the apps installed in the internal SD card are missing... Weird but whatever. Titanium time and troubleshoot after school. Well, titanium says that there's no backups. Slight panic. Then I think about all my 3 stars from the angry bird series... MAJOR PANIC!
I can access my phone just fine via root explorer but my TiBU folder is empty, I have no games on my SD cards but a lot of other stuff is there including my dropbox and download folders as well as my ROM .zips. It's almost as if random stuff was removed.
Reboot into recovery to fix permissions and delete caches, etc. While I there I checked my backups (Nandroid?) and my lastest one (the one I did prior to flashing) was missing! Even more panicked!
Checked my phone... No luck. So I think that maybe I'll try some sort of undelete program when I get home. Plug the phone into compy and the mount cards options doesn't appear... Reboot to recovery and reflash ROM. No luck. Try to update back to TiBU pro and I notice a new problem. I can't install anything from the market, they just don't download. Tried to install .apks I have stored locally, no luck.
At this point I just want a working phone, screw dem birds, I can always redo all the levels and put music back on. Goto reformat SD cards. The format external is greyed out. Trying to reformat the internal one goes through the motions but there's no update in the available storage.
Flash to Firefly since I had a copy of it on the internal SD. Same issues listed above but with a pretty new interface.
So... Anyone have a suggestion aside from go back in time and buy titanium media sync or for me to suck less? I'm pretty much out of ideas
my first captivate was deleting files on the internal sd (mostly my music folder), returned for exchange. no problems since. hardware issues are fixed by the hardware manufactures!
And if you have other problems NO MATTER what rom you use, then its probably not the rom...
Oops! Sorry, I meant to stress that in the original post: I by no means hold any ROM responsible for the shenanigans my phone is currently experiencing, I originally omitted mentioning any names but decided to include them so I could be as explicit as possible in describing the issues and the steps I took.
Update 1: Attempted Odin3.
Since I'm apparently mentally handicapped, I clicked on "Master clear" instead of "Start". Yellow android guy has been digging a hole on my phone's screen for the last 10-15 minutes with no change.
Don't think that it's suppose to take this long and worried that whatever the SD card issue is may be affecting the master clear but currently too scared to unplug the phone.
Currently chain smoking nervously
----
Update 2: Revenge of the unborking
Unplugged phone and removed battery since master clear was clearly not working
Powered it back up and Odin -> Flash to stock
Stock working but unable to load SD cards
Rebooted a couple times -> problem solved
Mounted SD as USB card
Recurva -> Recovered TiBU folder.
Rooted phone
Reinstalled Clockwork mod
Reflashed Firefly
Installing stuff from the market is still a bit wonky with a custom ROM which is odd since I could install stuff with a stock rom but at least things are progressing
That's cool you got your stuff back. Now make a copy of it on your computer!! Now its just a call to att to get it replaced cause it's a hardware issue for sure.
Oh I'm sure you figured this out but master clear doesn't do anything in download mode, that works when the phone is actually booted.
master clear works booted with debugging on!
Yep, looks like installing stuff from either the market or from the SD card is hit or miss depending on time of day, prevailing winds, or the phase of the moon. Got some stuff installed but now nothing will go on the phone.
Going to complain to Samsung directly to see where what that gets me. Bought the phone used after my last android bit the dust while I was still on contract. Ended up getting a cappy since you could unlock it manually and was unaware that you were stuck on edge service. Wish me luck!
Boot into recovery
Onix Speed Features
LAGFIX options
Enable lagfix: Convert Data to Ext4
Convert SYSTEM to Ext4 /RFS
YES
Go back twice
Reboot System Now
EXT4: Convert to EXT4 (wait for the conversion to complete)
After reboot choose YES (for the rest of partitions to be converted)
Wait for the welcome screen and from the power menu reboot to Recovery
ONIX Speed features
ROOT / install superuser
Simple: Install busybox
Scrool to Yes - apply root to device and select it
Go back twice
Reboot system now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think that I may have borked up my phone when doing this. I used the onix recovery to set everything back to rfs to no avail. I am still unable to install any apps or format the SD cards. Any advice? Currently on hold with Samsung support but apparently I am having a hard time convincing them that Hawaii is part of the United States and that we do in fact have UPS on this island.

[Q] Galaxy S went nuts

Hi all
My Galaxy S went nuts. Something is very wrong with it. I will try to provide as much details as possible.
Today i was using it as usual, sending messages on facebook, reading email... and suddenly my mail client freaked out and force-closed. This has never happened before (i use K9 mail), so i just restarted it, only to see that there is no more messages in inbox. Trying to "load more" got force close again.
So i thought, OK, **** happens - clear data, uninstall, reinstall. However, when i cleared the data something weird begun to happen. Apps started force closing one by one.
OK, i thought, **** happens - rebooting the phone should help. Only that it didn't help - apps still force closed.
OK, i thought, **** happens - clear data of every app, uninstall and reinstall. I got backups anyway. So i cleared all the data, uninstalled all i had and rebooted. However, apps still force closed, and when i went to app manager - surprise surprise! - all the apps i uninstalled a cluple of minutes ago were still there.
Now this was already kinda freaky, but OK, **** happens - i rebooted into clockwork (i have voodoo lagfix) and wiped the hell out of my phone. Rebooted - but the apps i uninstalled were still there, even after full wipe! Now i escapes me how exactly ANY app (let alone all apps) could survive wipe to factory defaults.
Just to be sure that i'm not dreaming, i rebooted to clockwork once again, wiped everything two times and restored a backup from a month ago. The apps were still there.
I am going to try disabling lagfix as a last resort, but for now i am out of ideas, as this is clearly way out of line with what could be considered normal.
Now to the details of what i have installed - froyo, voodoo lagfix, superuser, busybox blablabla, some common apps like skype, facebook, astro, poweramp player, launcher pro, k9 mail, newsrob, blogaway, easyprofiles, pansi sms, mapdroyd, google shopper, qr droid. That's pretty much it. I have one of the custom battery icon mods that could be found here on boards.
Any ideas about what is wrong and how to make it right?
I cant help you with all the poltergeist sh*t on your phone but if it were mine id copy stuff to pc then full wipe and reflash.
regards
id recommend to flash Eclair 2.1 with partition check than to Froyo so that ud have a "clean" rom to play with
cheers
Problems never walk alone - i would, but my laptop has died a week ago...
However, i think i found the cause - looks like for some reason, some of the partitions (including, apparently, internal sd card and data partition) mount as read only. This could explain all that is happening. Is there a way to correcr this without reflashing?
Burillo said:
Problems never walk alone - i would, but my laptop has died a week ago...
However, i think i found the cause - looks like for some reason, some of the partitions (including, apparently, internal sd card and data partition) mount as read only. This could explain all that is happening. Is there a way to correcr this without reflashing?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
go into recovery and fix permissions , if that doesnt work then as said before
I have tried all possible solutions - from restoring from backups i made earlier, and down to flashing back to different ROMs - namely JPM, JPC, JM8. With repartitioning and without repartitioning.
Moreover, when i mount the SD card on the PC - i can delete files (well, it looks that way) but then when i reboot and mount again - everything is back to the state it was before.
Now i can't even boot my phone. Sometimes it can't mount stl10, sometimes it can't mount stl11. I went through all the solutions that were mentioned in the threads related to these errors. Also, when i format all the partitions (with voodoo's clockwork) it says everything went OK - i "can" reformat everything including internal SD card, repartition it etc. but then it goes back to what it was, and phone doesn't boot any ROM.
Any ideas? Can this be a hardware problem?
EDIT:
i tried to flash latest stock gingerbread ROM, and after installing a clockwork from here it boots but still doesn't work - starts force closing, can't load anything.
Formatting partitions with clockwork does not induce any errors, nor there are any errors mentioned at boot. however, even unmounting, formatting and mounting internal SD card doesn't affect it.
after flashing stock rom it says it cannot mount /data partition
EDIT 2: still no luck. i can't do anything with SD card. maybe there is some hardcore way with adb that i can try? like manually fscking up partitions so that i force reformat or something like that?
i have been tinkering with my phone and now i am certain that the root of the problem is that the internal SD card went into read-only mode - and it doesn't get fixed with any sort of permission fixing, repartitioning or flashing ROMs. i've searched some more on this topic (now that i know what the problem is) and found that on one was ever able to successfully fix this problem. i just hope that the samsung guys fix it for free because it doesn't look like a user problem...
thankssssss
Samsung accepted it on warranty, and they agreed it is a hardware problem.
What is alarming is that this is not the first time (as i said i found a bunch of threads with similar problems), and apparently it can also happen on galaxy tab (i seem to remember stumling upon a similar thread in tab section, and IIRC galaxy tab has hardware similar to SGS). This means that it can easily happen again.
So whoever is reading this thread - save yourself some time, don't bother fiddling around with odin and go straight to samsung customer service, they'll fix it for free provided you bought your phone less than 2 years prior.
.... okay nvm

Keeps rebooting with SD in

OK here is the deal.
I have a Note with rooted stock ROM KKA and many apps (300+ probably).
This has probably led to some random reboots, sometimes it rebooted 5 times in a row, sometimes I get 10 days without a reboot.
This led me to start toying with new ROMs etc. ...but I didn't even begin.
I use Mobile Odin Pro for most of these things, so I used it to flash franco #8 kernel to have a "better" kernel for my needs (plus CWM that I didn't have up to that point - just root).
Now, maybe it is some app updates, maybe it is that I extensively move apps to SD (always using Note's own app manager), maybe that I used that kernel, but "somewhere at that point" Note reboots REALLY REALLY got worse to the point that I cannot use it.
I did change the kernel to CF-Root (which is actually like stock + CWM) for KKA, but didn't improve things.
Note boots, I get to the normal Android screen but seems that it refreshes 2-3 times until it freezes and then Note either completely reboots (I get white text "Galaxy Note" etc.) or does some kind of "soft reboot" where I get a black screen and Android normal screen with my clock etc. comes back up. Then after a while the same, even if I am doing something else (moved away from the main screen). Also not all the times I get a request for my SIM PIN (just some times), leading to believe that either radio stays "on" during that "reboot" or doesn't get initialized properly.
I've noticed that it is DIRECTLY related to my SD being in the device or not. When I remove it (with device off - of course), Note boots ok and keeps working (although lacks a tone of my apps).
I have fully surface tested the SD. It is a Samsung (I got Samsung on purpose) 32GB C10. Doesn't seem to be "hardware" related.
Since I have CWM (and root of course) is there any debugging info I could read somewhere, most probably a boot log or something that COULD lead me to the problem? It could be a misbihaving app running during boot and being on SD (although I did try not to move such apps in SD). It could be related to the kernels I tried.
I didn't plan to wipe my device before official ICS.
Unfortunately I don't have proper backup either. (misbihaving Kies - I did make a CWM backup but it was already with the problem)
Any help appreciated.
...right... all those experts, yet not even a hint...
While I can't really help with the issue ... I'd just try a different SD to make 110% sure there's no issue with the current one, although it appears to be ok.
If you think it's an app all you can do is install or remove them one by one to find the one (or more) misbehaving, you can't really expect anyone to pinpoint THE ONE with just the info "I have 300+ apps" at hand, can you ?
No, of course.
But it would help if someone could give me a way to read a log or something. It is Linux under the sheets ain't it?
Try logcat App from market or logcollector. you can also collect logs from Android commander.
Adb command to get logs
Enable USB debugging
Connect Data cable
Open command prompt and get into adb command folder
and type this command
adb shell logcat log.txt
it ll create a text file in the same folder.
Thanks for the info.
In the meantime I found out but putting all SD apps in a subfolder and putting them back in (with new reboot each time) few by few, that indeed some (few) apps create the problem. I haven't EXACTLY pinpointed yet and I am not sure if a certain... mix is to blame, but it's better to loose maybe 10 apps than have this mess.
I plan to wipe and do some more selective app instalation after ICS is officially out for Note.
NLS said:
OK here is the deal.
I have a Note with rooted stock ROM KKA and many apps (300+ probably).
This has probably led to some random reboots, sometimes it rebooted 5 times in a row, sometimes I get 10 days without a reboot.
This led me to start toying with new ROMs etc. ...but I didn't even begin.
I use Mobile Odin Pro for most of these things, so I used it to flash franco #8 kernel to have a "better" kernel for my needs (plus CWM that I didn't have up to that point - just root).
Now, maybe it is some app updates, maybe it is that I extensively move apps to SD (always using Note's own app manager), maybe that I used that kernel, but "somewhere at that point" Note reboots REALLY REALLY got worse to the point that I cannot use it.
I did change the kernel to CF-Root (which is actually like stock + CWM) for KKA, but didn't improve things.
Note boots, I get to the normal Android screen but seems that it refreshes 2-3 times until it freezes and then Note either completely reboots (I get white text "Galaxy Note" etc.) or does some kind of "soft reboot" where I get a black screen and Android normal screen with my clock etc. comes back up. Then after a while the same, even if I am doing something else (moved away from the main screen). Also not all the times I get a request for my SIM PIN (just some times), leading to believe that either radio stays "on" during that "reboot" or doesn't get initialized properly.
I've noticed that it is DIRECTLY related to my SD being in the device or not. When I remove it (with device off - of course), Note boots ok and keeps working (although lacks a tone of my apps).
I have fully surface tested the SD. It is a Samsung (I got Samsung on purpose) 32GB C10. Doesn't seem to be "hardware" related.
Since I have CWM (and root of course) is there any debugging info I could read somewhere, most probably a boot log or something that COULD lead me to the problem? It could be a misbihaving app running during boot and being on SD (although I did try not to move such apps in SD). It could be related to the kernels I tried.
I didn't plan to wipe my device before official ICS.
Unfortunately I don't have proper backup either. (misbihaving Kies - I did make a CWM backup but it was already with the problem)
Any help appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi
Try doing the following if you have CWM recovery installed. Reboot into recovery -go to advanced, clean cache and fix permissions. That should resolve your issue.
B
Ash
Sorry to be late on this, but I can confirm from my own experience that after a certain number of apps transferred on SD, I got soft bootloop too.
To stop that madness, I had to boot my Note without its external microsd card, and uninstall some of the transferred apps. Thereafter I could boot even with card. But eventually I chose to keep almost all apps in internal memory, and externalize only those 2-3 which are really huge (including the Ebook update from Samsung which takes some 30 megabytes itself).
Ernesto de Bernardis
[from my Galaxy Note]
hi there, same issue here, but mine occurs even when installed on the internal sd.I had my own thread but couldn’t fined it.attached is my catlog :
ashT1971 said:
Hi
Try doing the following if you have CWM recovery installed. Reboot into recovery -go to advanced, clean cache and fix permissions. That should resolve your issue.
B
Ash
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
didn't help,but thx anyways.
as it seems that no body is wiling to help,I'm gonna share my investigations results :
-results are the same in ICS roms.
-it seems that this happens when the number of installed goes over 100 (or something close to it) no matter in the int-sd or ext-sd.
-stock rom and kernel and clean install doesn't make any difference.
-during the media initialization phone goes extra hot and battery drains very fast.
so in conclusion I think it's either hardware related think or OS restriction...
any further help or comment is highly appreciated.
Suggestion. Move all apps first to phone. Format the card. Retain all system related apps like ROM manager, backup, memory cleaner, browser, camera etc. on phone itself. Move other apps which are likely to remain live all the time to internal sd card. Move the balance to external sd card. Thus helped with a similar problem on windows phone 7.
If the above doesn't help, try freezing batches of apps using an app like bloat freezer to zero down on the problem.
Sometimes, an erroneous movement of system cache to external card also causes this problem.
Ash
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
solution to your apps 2 sd move problem
See some of my previous posts by doing a search where i have referred to this problem and also the solution.
Basically the note is sh1t at moving apps to sd card. Especially after the apps count goes above hundred or so. Many times the phone software tells that the app is moved to sd card but it has been moved in a faulty manner and subsequently the phone starts reboot loops which is only solved by pulling out the sd card and deleting the affected apps which are always apps that have been moved to sd card.
Presently have 352 apps on my phone and it is working fine but this has been after many many many frustrating moments at trial and error and realising the samsung galaxy note is sh1t at moving apps to sd card and finding work arounds which are slow but work.
Your solution to the problem,
remove the auto update feature for any app on the android market or elsewhere if that app has been moved to sd card.
uninstall sd card or pull it out battery and then remove card reboot loops prevent uninstalling card. my phone sometimes went into reboot loops for 8hours at a stertch with the phone being unusable through out.
go to the application manager (from samsung and not the android one) and select from drop down list to sort apps by size and delete all apps that are shown as having a size of 4kb / 8kb / 12kb (when actual size is many times bigger)
reinstall sd card and restart phone and phone will work fine if you have deleted all apps of the sizes mentioned above.
then to prevent the problem from recurring again always manually update any apps that have been moved to sd card ONE AT A TIME other wise problem recurs without fail as this phone is **** at moving apps to sd after a hundred or so app are on phone
you can auto update any apps that have not been moved to sd
keep apps on phone if they are to do with file managers / browsers / camera apps etc
the above has been deduced by me by trial and error and months of frustration with the sh1t apps 2 sd move capabilities of this phone
DONT BATCH MOVE apps to sd using apps like app2sdmove etc as the problem will recur and move any app manually one by one if you have loads of apps
Following the above method my phone works fine now with about 352 apps but occassionally when i accidentally autoupdate a few apps together that have been moved to sd card then the problem recurs and i have to delete apps as mentioned above and reinstal then works fine. But it is a f*cking pain reinstalling many apps manually one by one but no option due to the crap capabilities of this phone for the purposes of apps2sd move.
I dont face this problem with two of my lower specced android phones
Also this phone gets internal memory errors when about 200mb is free and freezes over when about 190mb left. Where as my old htc desire with poorer hardware used to work fine even when 4-5mb free on 2.1 firmware and needed 15mb free with 2.2 firmware but the note with much better hardware struggles when 200mb is free.
Presently using my above tried and tested advice i have about 1.65gb of apps on internal memory (352 apps) and with 72 apps moved to card with rest on phone even though a further 75 can be moved to card i have opted not to move them due to the disability of this phone to move them properly without getting reboot loops and phone is working fine but lags for home button presses. Cant wait for ICS and hoping that this situation hopefully gets resolved or will have to upgrade sooner than intended originally as fed up with the apps2sd move 'disability' of this phone. I would be surprised if any other android phone had a ****tier apps 2 sd move capability like this phone has. I am pleased about the rest of the phone but the limitation is irritating as have had to repeatedly uninstall and reinstall apps. But now that i know the limitation it is a bit easier to work around as mentioned above.
Has your problem been resolved following the advice I gave yesterday?
Well the problem stopped when I moves some of the apps to a folder in SD card (so they couldn't be "seen" by the OS) until... yesterday when it started again (possibly after some app updates).
I will probably do the same (move them off to a folder and back to install position few by few) until ICS comes and I wipe my phone (and reinstall fewer apps).
BTW, wiping caches and rebuilding permisions did not help.
NLS said:
Well the problem stopped when I moves some of the apps to a folder in SD card (so they couldn't be "seen" by the OS) until... yesterday when it started again (possibly after some app updates).
I will probably do the same (move them off to a folder and back to install position few by few) until ICS comes and I wipe my phone (and reinstall fewer apps).
BTW, wiping caches and rebuilding permisions did not help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try to move to SD only apps which do not start at boot and do not run in background. Works for me.
bubblesmoney said:
Has your problem been resolved following the advice I gave yesterday?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
definitely thx a lot.
NLS said:
Well the problem stopped when I moves some of the apps to a folder in SD card (so they couldn't be "seen" by the OS) until... yesterday when it started again (possibly after app updates).
I will probably do the same (move them off to a folder and back to install position few by few) until ICS comes and I wipe my phone (and reinstall fewer apps).
BTW, wiping caches and rebuilding permisions did not help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't bother creating folders and making apps useless etc. just follow my advice mentioned in previous posts in this and other threads and your device will work fine with more than Three hundred apps. It just works around the crap sd move capabilities of this phone. Just hope some people from Samsung see this thread as this problem is easily reproducible and predictable.
debernardis said:
Try to move to SD only apps which do not start at boot and do not run in background. Works for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think I do. Maybe I missed some.
If there was some easy logging on this phone I would know...
bubblesmoney said:
Don't bother creating folders and making apps useless etc. just follow my advice mentioned in previous posts in this and other threads and your device will work fine with more than Three hundred apps. It just works around the crap sd move capabilities of this phone. Just hope some people from Samsung see this thread as this problem is easily reproducible and predictable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will do. Needs time and I don't have it.

Categories

Resources