can anyone please recommend me a vnc client that supports xoom?
thanks in advance.
fondoo said:
can anyone please recommend me a vnc client that supports xoom?
thanks in advance.
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Wyse Pocket Cloud - $14.99 worth every dime.
android VNC for VNC
remote desktop for RDP
cwizardtx said:
Wyse Pocket Cloud - $14.99 worth every dime.
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the free version is very nice too.
cwizardtx said:
Wyse Pocket Cloud - $14.99 worth every dime.
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im really loving wyse pocket cloud. gonna buy it. thanks!
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im really loving wyse pocket cloud. gonna buy it. thanks!
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You're welcome, where's my commission dang.
wyse pocket cloud has got to be the best... you will not regret buying it... just makes life more fun
One more vote for PocketCloud. Teamed with a BT mouse and kb- a sweet combination
Splashtop remote
Just wanted to say I've tried out splashtop, and found it better for my usage.
It's not the usual vnc-kind of thing, but instead streaming video of your desktop instantly. It works great. I tried the trial first.
Pro:
-feels like realtime streaming of video and or audio from the remote machine. I can play videos and spotify. Framerate is in the 25-30 area i guess. Feels really smooth and not choppy like most VNC stuff.
Minus:
-Don't quite know.. depends what your use is.
-Can't connect to standard vnc or rdp server of course...
I haven't checked out all the features yet, but it's kind of limited when it comes to resolution. Runs on 1024x768 by default and switches your remote screen to that res when you connect. Didn't bother me as much after actually using it a bit. Would probably not be possible to video/audio stream my 1920x1200 desktop anyways
market.android.com/details?id=com.splashtop.remote
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frigorific said:
Just wanted to say I've tried out splashtop, and found it better for my usage.
It's not the usual vnc-kind of thing, but instead streaming video of your desktop instantly. It works great. I tried the trial first.
Pro:
-feels like realtime streaming of video and or audio from the remote machine. I can play videos and spotify. Framerate is in the 25-30 area i guess. Feels really smooth and not choppy like most VNC stuff.
Minus:
-Don't quite know.. depends what your use is.
-Can't connect to standard vnc or rdp server of course...
I haven't checked out all the features yet, but it's kind of limited when it comes to resolution. Runs on 1024x768 by default and switches your remote screen to that res when you connect. Didn't bother me as much after actually using it a bit. Would probably not be possible to video/audio stream my 1920x1200 desktop anyways
market.android.com/details?id=com.splashtop.remote
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I bought and use Splash Top also.
The only cons are that you have to manipulate your speaker setup before/after using it if you have anything other than a standard 2 peice speaker setup. I have a 5.1 speaker setup and in order for me to pipe sound I have to change it beforehand. Additionally the nonstandard-to-the-Xoom resolution is annoying. Splashtop support says that 1280x752 is coming though, which will make it a very nice alternative to Pocket Cloud when you want to stream video/audo/games.
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I bought and use Splash Top also.
The only cons are that you have to manipulate your speaker setup before/after using it if you have anything other than a standard 2 peice speaker setup. I have a 5.1 speaker setup and in order for me to pipe sound I have to change it beforehand. Additionally the nonstandard-to-the-Xoom resolution is annoying. Splashtop support says that 1280x752 is coming though, which will make it a very nice alternative to Pocket Cloud when you want to stream video/audo/games.
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I've also bought SplashTop... but for me, the REALLY annoys me is the resolution change in my Desktop... it messes with the size of all my windows (not to include position)... I don't mind it a little less responsible (in this area, it actually is very responsive), if it don't mess with my 1080p desktop...
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Wyse Pocket Cloud - $14.99 worth every dime.
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I used Wyse but I think Real VNC is better based on hours and hours of use.
Real VNC is much faster.
Can anybody tell me specifically why Wyse is better? Like what features?
Lolento said:
I used Wyse but I think Real VNC is better based on hours and hours of use.
Real VNC is much faster.
Can anybody tell me specifically why Wyse is better? Like what features?
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It's probably related to its interface and the circular mouse widget with accessible features.
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It's probably related to its interface and the circular mouse widget with accessible features.
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I find the mouse widget thing made Wyse harder to use.
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I find the mouse widget thing made Wyse harder to use.
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in a tablet, with no menu hardware key, I find it actually very smart. (Also, usually you can disable it too IIRC)
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I am a network administrator for a IT company and am looking for a good RDP client for my Xoom. I am trying to use both 2X which is a free RDP client and the free version of Wyse Pocketcloud. I dont mind paying for a good RDP client but I dont want to pay for something and then find out that its not for me.
I mostly use RDP to remote into our servers but occasionally the thought has came across my mind on how cool it would be to also be able to run use the Citrix Xenserver and our VMware View clients from the tablet.
I have been reluctant to dive into a decent RDP client because of the Xooms server certificate problems.
I would love to be able to Manage our VM's from the xoom but VMware hasnt came out with a app for android yet. Kinda a bummer... The Ipad app for managing vm's is awesome. Just wish companies would support android more.
Now that I am done with that small rant. What are yours guy's thoughts?
Team Viewer is a good solution for me. I prefer it above LogMeIn Ignition. You can actually control the mouse function instead of having a stationary mouse and you just move the screen into position to get in place to click the mouse.
Wyse is amazing and simple on the xoom ... worked well on nexus one and atrix as well.
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has anyone here tried 2x? I guess what I liked about them is that it automaticly adjusts the resolution to the xoom.
I know you can change the resolution on wyse but anything more than 800x600 you end up having to scroll around. Even on the xoom.
I use pocket cloud and LOVE it works great
Pocketcloud is the way to go. Great thing is, it does vmware view and vnc as well.
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has anyone here tried 2x? I guess what I liked about them is that it automaticly adjusts the resolution to the xoom.
I know you can change the resolution on wyse but anything more than 800x600 you end up having to scroll around. Even on the xoom.
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I have to guess that you are using the free version because the paid app is more flexible and I get full screen.
I use pocketcloud for remote access. We also purchased a site license for vnc which isn't cheap and I use vnc to control any of the 172 computers throughout my sites. I remember the days of idokorro and still use it to manage my servers can manipulate active directory and god knows how many other options from my xoom. Reminds me of NCIS Los Angeles when the guy carries around the tablet to retrieve information. Wish my company would have bought it for me though.
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Pocketcloud updated tonight and is now honeycomb enabled. Its perfect now, fits the full screen perfectly at 1280 x 752.
Bit dear but loving remote desktop client by xtralogic
Now just need to get vpn working with ftmg!
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is PocketCloud free version not available anymore?
Xtralogic was my choice in the end, works very nicely.
iTap, best gestures.
Hey there,
I just want to tell you that Android Transporter is out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PsLb-nDXUyQ
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
I would love to check it right now. But working...
Would love to see some comments from someone who checked it out.
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Hey there,
I just want to tell you that Android Transporter is out.
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
I would love to check it right now. But working...
Would love to see some comments from someone who checked it out.
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Do you actually need a projector? And a Rasperry PI?
I don't quite understand this I think
Wilks3y said:
Do you actually need a projector? And a Rasperry PI?
I don't quite understand this I think
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It`s like a self made Nexus Q.
The Raspi is essential.
Every Screen would work which has a component or HDMI interface.
I think as long no Miracast or Nexus Q is available ìt`s awesome.
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It`s like a self made Nexus Q.
The Raspi is essential.
Every Screen would work which has a component or HDMI interface.
I think as long no Miracast or Nexus Q is available ìt`s awesome.
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I would be willing to get a Rasperry pi to do it, but could you put a HDMI cable into the rasperry, and then plug that into the TV and do it that way?
Or is the Projector essential also?
THANKS MATE !
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It`s like a self made Nexus Q.
The Raspi is essential.
Every Screen would work which has a component or HDMI interface.
I think as long no Miracast or Nexus Q is available ìt`s awesome.
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Is it really the same as the Nexus Q? My reason for wanting to buy a Nexus Q (which isn't available in the UK), is as a party jukebox music hub, but reading the Android Transformer website, it doesn't seem to do much other than movie streaming...
The closest I have found is PlayMySong Android app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playmysong.android&hl=en
However it's in rather a poor state of repair, the dev, a hipster it seems, focusing on Spotify...
Anyone know any alternatives?
What with miracast?
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I would be willing to get a Rasperry pi to do it, but could you put a HDMI cable into the rasperry, and then plug that into the TV and do it that way?
Or is the Projector essential also?
THANKS MATE !
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No projector needed. Any display with hdmi would do it too. Even old tv`s would work bacause of the component interface of the raspberry.
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Is it really the same as the Nexus Q? My reason for wanting to buy a Nexus Q (which isn't available in the UK), is as a party jukebox music hub, but reading the Android Transformer website, it doesn't seem to do much other than movie streaming...
The closest I have found is PlayMySong Android app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playmysong.android&hl=en
However it's in rather a poor state of repair, the dev, a hipster it seems, focusing on Spotify...
Anyone know any alternatives?
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No it`s not the same as the Nexus Q. It`s just streaming the screen content from your nexus 7 to a display.
fryroyal said:
No projector needed. Any display with hdmi would do it too. Even old tv`s would work bacause of the component interface of the raspberry.
No it`s not the same as the Nexus Q. It`s just streaming the screen content from your nexus 7 to a display.
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Great thanks bud, currently bidding on a Raspberry Pi as we Speak
why do i need an extra firmware on my N7?
some software for windows/linux would be fine - already have a htpc.
I prefer using the YouTube app on the ps3 control by the nexus 7
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You need extra firmware because they are trying to get the lowest latency possible so it just being an app wouldn't do. Although they didn't mention gaming in the youtube demo so I assume in it's first version it isn't capable of that yet.
I'm hoping they (or someone) can make a patch for other roms and I also hope this becomes a common feature for all roms.
Yes this is very similar to miracast and they even said when the miracast spec is finalized, they will modify this to be in spec.
Yes you currently need a raspberry pi, but they might write a linux client down the road. Hopefully other projects start on that, maybe a windows client too.
cant you just twonky your photos/vids onto your tv
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Ah ok, thank you!
I talked to the devs a couple months ago when it was only working on the Nexus S. They said you can capture the stream using VLC as well, but it is complicated to set up.
When I get my replacement N7 I'm definitely working on that!
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I'm surprised some people are dismissing this. The nexus Q only streams content that you have in google play, it streams nothing from your actual device. Twonky et al stream stuff to a media capable device (e.g ps3) in formats that the receiving device support. Your ps3 can't play that mkv file? Well it's not playing. ps3 doesn't support the subs you have? You're not going to see them. Want to stream a game to your ps3/tv? Not happening.
Think of this more like wireless hdmi. Whatever is on your device you can stream to your large display. It's basically miracast but it's available now. In their earlier demos they demo'd streaming games but I guess/assume they haven't gotten the latency low enough yet.
And as another mentioned, you may be able to stream to a pc with vlc or another player. The main thing is hardware decoding on the pc end for lowest latency. Not sure what decoder chip the pi has but if that was in a pc already, it would make a port easier. So down the road, a pi wouldn't even be needed, not for streaming to a pc hooked up to a large display anyway.
Two things bugged me about the nexus 7: no hdmi and no sdslot. This would solve one of those issues.
Again, I hope this spreads to the other roms and becomes a default option that all of them have.
I was reading more on their website and the current transmit time is around 200 ms which is a little disappointing for games anyway. But another cool featue is it utilizes android beam to stream to another android device.
I have the same functionality with my Galaxy Note 10.1 to my Samsung LED TV... It's a cool feature.
I've already got two Raspberry Pi's... will be looking at this tonight.
See it clears the Nexus 7 but not sure if that is the unlocking of the bootloader (which is already done by me) or also the software. Will look when I get more time.
Got the RPi's for this function originally!
this is cool right now i send youtube/etc from n7 to my rasbpi xbmc using the yatse remote app...
hope they build this into one of the pi xbmc builds...
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This cements my decision to buy a Rasp Pi, don't forget to update the firmware to allow official overclocking!
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008
Lastly, does anybody know if it upscales to 1080p, or is limited to the Nexus's default resolution?
It would be interesting if it could upscale to a higher resolution but I kind of doubt it. My understanding is it's basically making a video on the fly of whats on your screen and then decoded on the other end. So I would think it would be 1:1 regarding resolution. However, it would be nice if there was a option to lower resolution to try and lower latency or increase framerate for gaming. Might not hurt the image too much although text might appear more fuzzy. But there may be a performance penalty simply by scaling the source image.
I don't currently have a pi yet but if anyone has tried it let us know how it went.
Oh, and I didn't notice you can already use this with vlc
vlc rtsp://<Asus-Nexus-7-IP-Address>:9000/android.sdp.
Too bad it doesn't transmit sound yet. Hmm, I do wish it was an app but understand why it's built into the rom. Given this was released same day as 4.1.2 I assume this is built on 4.1.1 but I don't see that mentioned on their site.
Yesterday, my Chromecast was delivered to my office via OnTrac. I was showing it to a friend and trying to explain it. We couldn't see it in action and I was only talking about it via what I'd heard on the Internet. I had a hard time explaining it and she just waved me off and said, "I can do all that with my BluRay player and it only cost $65 for a lot more functionality."
At the time I didn't have a good comeback because I hadn't used it. Then I took it home and saw why this is better than any "smart" BR player or TV or AppleTV or Roku device. I've kinda made a mental list to help me explain it to others. Here's the list. I was hoping you would help by adding to the list....
- No keyboard needed. Have you ever tried to search for something via a smart TV or BR player? Using a remote as a keyboard is a pain in the butt. People do it once or twice and give up. Using the ChromeCast (CC) eliminates the remote and lets you do all of the typing on your familiar phone or tablet.
- The ChromeCast picture quality in Netflix is 1080p. It's the first Netflix implementation of 1080p. Picture quality is stunning.
- You want to see Facebook on the big screen? Especially for photos and videos? Just use your laptop.
- What's that? You're in a hotel and want to watch a streaming football game on the Pac-12 network but the hotel doesn't offer it? Whip out your PC and stream the game via CC.
- It only cost me $11
- Open for developers. The possibilities are limited by hardware as opposed to some company's rules and need to keep things closed.
basically, Chromecast is an extension of your phone. (media) things that you want to do on your phone, you can "forward" it to the big screen (aka your TV)
it has a simple interface and little to no learning curve if you know how to use your phone (and these UI are typically better than your smartTV remotes)
TabGuy said:
- The ChromeCast picture quality in Netflix is 1080p. It's the first Netflix implementation of 1080p. Picture quality is stunning.
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not true
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/netflix-super-hd-3d-streaming/
- It only cost me $11
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only if you discount the netflix cost(i.e. you are already a netflix subscriber paying)
you can't get the deal anymore
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- Open for developers. The possibilities are limited by hardware as opposed to some company's rules and need to keep things closed.
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i haven't seen them releasing the chromecast OS/kernel source yet... that would be a lot helpful
topic.
I, for one, am paying close attention to any functionality like this to surface, then it'll truly meet my needs.
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topic.
I, for one, am paying close attention to any functionality like this to surface, then it'll truly meet my needs.
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I would love xbmc on it. i have an old dell as my htpc and my pi as my tv computer. id love it!
I want this too.
Some people say to just get a pi but what they don't understand is with a pi which is 35$ alone you still don't get an SD card, wireless adapter, HDMI cord or even a case. Not to mention iirc Chrome cast is clocked 300Mhz higher than the raspberry with even lower power consumption.
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I want this too.
Some people say to just get a pi but what they don't understand is with a pi which is 35$ alone you still don't get an SD card, wireless adapter, HDMI cord or even a case. Not to mention iirc Chrome cast is clocked 300Mhz higher than the raspberry with even lower power consumption.
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damn. We need someone on this stat!
Lookin forward to replacing my original xbox with this, for my new xbmc media player...
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I, for one, am paying close attention to any functionality like this to surface, then it'll truly meet my needs.
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Same thing here. This is really why I bought one.
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I cant wait for this. As soon as this happens I will buy a chromecast for all the tvs in the house
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Cast Xmbc over Chromecast using Avia Player
Hi,
You can now cast XMBC over Chromecast using Avia Player($2.99 Addon Charge). A video tutorial is up on You Tube.
Using Smartphone - XMBC can be watched over Chromecast through Avia Player which costs $2.99. YouTube Video shows how.
http://youtu.be/vS-7hwYe4nw
Using Computer - XMBC can be watched over Chromecast through Avia Player which costs $2.99. YouTube Video shows how.
http://youtu.be/NCgP0r5Dvp8
Good Luck
It will never be a XBMC stick...
What you might get though is have XBMC stream to it and support other DIAL devices, once the XBMC devs stop being stubborn and listen to what their Users have been asking for.
They seem to think DIAL isn't worth supporting since they already support UPnP.
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It will never be a XBMC stick...
What you might get though is have XBMC stream to it and support other DIAL devices, once the XBMC devs stop being stubborn and listen to what their Users have been asking for.
They seem to think DIAL isn't worth supporting since they already support UPnP.
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My Rockchip MK808 stick runs XBMC and Cheapcast..indeed most Android phones you might have lying around collecting dust will do. I don't use it much, but the wife loves her Android games on the big xcreen.
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My Rockchip MK808 stick runs XBMC and Cheapcast..indeed most Android phones you might have lying around collecting dust will do. I don't use it much, but the wife loves her Android games on the big xcreen.
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Your Rockchip Stick has everything needed to navigate/control it via BT Same with Phones...CCast has none of this.
Whats more is the fact that Source compatibility is going to be a real problem there, You can't store content on the CCast and while reading from a network source is possible that source had better be CCast compatible or it won't play well.
But even if you manage to get past all those hurdles you have one bigger issue to contend with that you can't really solve....
Google will never Whitelist it as it does not conform to their UI Guidelines at all.
I would much rather see XBMC add the ability to send content to DIAL devices because the PC/MAC/LINUX versions of XBMC could easily add Transcoding to their system if they wanted to and remove the source compatibility issue and it would allow two people in the house to watch the same content on different TVs.
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Your Rockchip Stick has everything needed to navigate/control it via BT Same with Phones...CCast has none of this.
Whats more is the fact that Source compatibility is going to be a real problem there, You can't store content on the CCast and while reading from a network source is possible that source had better be CCast compatible or it won't play well.
But even if you manage to get past all those hurdles you have one bigger issue to contend with that you can't really solve....
Google will never Whitelist it as it does not conform to their UI Guidelines at all.
I would much rather see XBMC add the ability to send content to DIAL devices because the PC/MAC/LINUX versions of XBMC could easily add Transcoding to their system if they wanted to and remove the source compatibility issue and it would allow two people in the house to watch the same content on different TVs.
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Well that's no surprise really. I'm still somewhat surprised folks want so much from what amounts to a hdmi-alternative wireless dongle. Sure it's handy and works great for the services it currently supports (tab casting aside..simply atrocious for me) and it's dirt cheap to be a no brainer. But to get real server services requires an entirely different approach: a front end/back end and expandable, stable database. CC ain't gonna take us there.
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Well that's no surprise really. I'm still somewhat surprised folks want so much from what amounts to a hdmi-alternative wireless dongle. Sure it's handy and works great for the services it currently supports (tab casting aside..simply atrocious for me) and it's dirt cheap to be a no brainer. But to get real server services requires an entirely different approach: a front end/back end and expandable, stable database. CC ain't gonna take us there.
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It's the age-old conundrum - specialized device, or general-purpose device?
It's like getting a dishwasher versus a housekeeper.
Dishwasher is predictable and doesn't ask for a raise or days off but it won't wash or fold your clothes.
Housekeeper can wash dishes and wash and fold clothes, but might ask for a raise or days off.
The best solution really depends on the individual situation.
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Well that's no surprise really. I'm still somewhat surprised folks want so much from what amounts to a hdmi-alternative wireless dongle. Sure it's handy and works great for the services it currently supports (tab casting aside..simply atrocious for me) and it's dirt cheap to be a no brainer. But to get real server services requires an entirely different approach: a front end/back end and expandable, stable database. CC ain't gonna take us there.
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Yeah I guess some folks don't realize the limitations of this device and how in some cases Less is actually more!
The simplicity of how CCast works makes it much more versatile than Miracast or DLNA Dongles,
But something like XBMC or Plex frontends which requires saving files and a Database will never be one of those things it does well.
And that doesn't even address the Navigation issues. The whole point of CCast is to make a device you can display to (Like Miracast) while off loading Power, and Navigation to another device that is much easier to write code for but doesn't require tying up the device to display (Like Miracast) a very targeted solution to a very specific problem.
bhiga said:
It's the age-old conundrum - specialized device, or general-purpose device?
It's like getting a dishwasher versus a housekeeper.
Dishwasher is predictable and doesn't ask for a raise or days off but it won't wash or fold your clothes.
Housekeeper can wash dishes and wash and fold clothes, but might ask for a raise or days off.
The best solution really depends on the individual situation.
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Just like you can run Plex off a RasPi or NAS but neither is actually a very good option to run a media server from due to the Transcoding power requirements that usually require far more power than a Pi or NAS can give you.
There are two schools of thought here....
One side wants something they can navigate and control their TV with (Lets call them the Navigators). They just want a device that will give them a better interface than their Smart TV has (Roku, GoogleTV, XBMC Etc...) or want something to make a dumb TV smart. CCast doesn't take that approach at all
The other side I'll call the ROUTERS or maybe the Remote Controllers (and I guess I am in this Group) are looking for LESS Navigation and more Mobile Device integration in the same way we have Smart Houses being controlled by our Mobile devices. I don't want to go through navigation of Menus just to see something on a particular display I would prefer to use the same controls for ALL devices and merely rout signals where I want them without having to SET UP the device I wish to display on.
Just like in a Smart House I can set the temp of one room while sitting in another I should be able to display things on a TV in another room from the same screen I am using to control the display in the room I'm in.
Essentially routing Media throughout my house the same way I do to Monitors in my production truck or TV Studio.
Imagine if I had to go to every monitor in my studio, Hit Menu, Select the app before I could get the signal I wanted on the Monitor. That seems to be what the Navigators want.
Me I don't ever want to have to change a thing on the Monitor just rout my signal to it and have it display it.
This is essentially what DIAL and the CCast is all about.
Asphyx said:
Yeah I guess some folks don't realize the limitations of this device and how in some cases Less is actually more!
The simplicity of how CCast works makes it much more versatile than Miracast or DLNA Dongles,
But something like XBMC or Plex frontends which requires saving files and a Database will never be one of those things it does well.
And that doesn't even address the Navigation issues. The whole point of CCast is to make a device you can display to (Like Miracast) while off loading Power, and Navigation to another device that is much easier to write code for but doesn't require tying up the device to display (Like Miracast) a very targeted solution to a very specific problem.
Just like you can run Plex off a RasPi or NAS but neither is actually a very good option to run a media server from due to the Transcoding power requirements that usually require far more power than a Pi or NAS can give you.
There are two schools of thought here....
One side wants something they can navigate and control their TV with (Lets call them the Navigators). They just want a device that will give them a better interface than their Smart TV has (Roku, GoogleTV, XBMC Etc...) or want something to make a dumb TV smart. CCast doesn't take that approach at all
The other side I'll call the ROUTERS or maybe the Remote Controllers (and I guess I am in this Group) are looking for LESS Navigation and more Mobile Device integration in the same way we have Smart Houses being controlled by our Mobile devices. I don't want to go through navigation of Menus just to see something on a particular display I would prefer to use the same controls for ALL devices and merely rout signals where I want them without having to SET UP the device I wish to display on.
Just like in a Smart House I can set the temp of one room while sitting in another I should be able to display things on a TV in another room from the same screen I am using to control the display in the room I'm in.
Essentially routing Media throughout my house the same way I do to Monitors in my production truck or TV Studio.
Imagine if I had to go to every monitor in my studio, Hit Menu, Select the app before I could get the signal I wanted on the Monitor. That seems to be what the Navigators want.
Me I don't ever want to have to change a thing on the Monitor just rout my signal to it and have it display it.
This is essentially what DIAL and the CCast is all about.
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Yep...I only see the CC as and 'end" device. To introduce feature creep would complicate and obscure its real value. API release and further app development will be all the enhancement it needs. Clear purpose market wise, solid community support=widespread success. Let the specialists do their thing.
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wideasleep1 said:
Yep...I only see the CC as and 'end" device. To introduce feature creep would complicate and obscure its real value. API release and further app development will be all the enhancement it needs. Clear purpose market wise, solid community support=widespread success. Let the specialists do their thing.
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Yup!
For my usage, I don't need YAR (Yet Another Remote) - I already have a HTPC, but Chromecast's interface as an extension of apps I already use is much more convenient.
wideasleep1 said:
Yep...I only see the CC as and 'end" device. To introduce feature creep would complicate and obscure its real value. API release and further app development will be all the enhancement it needs. Clear purpose market wise, solid community support=widespread success. Let the specialists do their thing.
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For years in broadcast we have used a sort of networked transmission called "The Switch" it was little more than a network router that you could send video to any TV network on "The Switch Network".
TVs are in my mind a destination for content and it doesn't really matter what kind of content it is (Music, Web, Video, Pics). CCast can turn a TV into a destination. Until TV Manfs get on board and see this is the best way to send digital signals all over the place (by Pushing instead of Pulling) the CCast will at least get the concept rolling until those Manufacturers catch up. I know for a fact Sony would LOVE to get rid of their Smart Interface department because it generates little to no revenue and is constantly having to keep up and upgrading TVs that were already bought and sold. In time whatever money they made off the TV will be spent supporting it's Smart interface to keep up with User Demand for apps when if they merely supported DIAL they wouldn't need any SMART interface at all!
Thats kind of where I hope CCast (and DIAL standard) is taking us!
bhiga said:
Yup!
For my usage, I don't need YAR (Yet Another Remote) - I already have a HTPC, but Chromecast's interface as an extension of apps I already use is much more convenient.
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It's funny how the first wireless remotes used light to control but were then abandoned for Radio devices which were then Abandoned for IR (Light again) only to be usurped again by Radio in the form of WiFi! LOL
As they say what goes around comes around! LOL
There isn't a universal remote that can be bought that would be as versatile as my Tablet or Phone is....
Turning my Chromecast into my XBMC machine is literally why I logged into XDA today. GOGOGO!!!!
I can't wait for that. I currently play everything off an HTPC but if I don't ever need to turn it on again, good.
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It's funny how the first wireless remotes used light to control but were then abandoned for Radio devices which were then Abandoned for IR (Light again) only to be usurped again by Radio in the form of WiFi! LOL
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Indeed... I actually had a TV that used a sonic remote, I think it might've been Zenith.
When I printed graphics using my dot-matrix* printer, certain graphics would change the channel. It was freaky at first, and pretty funny afterward.
* Kids, look that one up or go to an automotive dealership that still uses carbon-copy forms.
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There isn't a universal remote that can be bought that would be as versatile as my Tablet or Phone is....
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:good: Indeed! Harmony is close but not as slick as native control. Hard to get more native than building it into Google Play Services!
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Indeed... I actually had a TV that used a sonic remote, I think it might've been Zenith.
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LOL Yes It was a Zenith....I remember My Uncle could change the channel by Whistling! Would drive my great Grandmother Nuts!
My chromecast has sat in my bottom drawer for at least the last 2 months. It wasn't overly useful to me, seeing as at home I have HTPC's everywhere, and I have a NAS that isn't powerful enough to host a Plex server and do OTF trans-coding for when I travel. I could use Plex server on the HTPC's, but they aren't exactly the most energy efficient when compared to my NAS. It also isn't worth the hassle of converting all of my vids to chromecast friendly format that my NAS could handle.
Synology just released the 5.0 software, with chromecast support for streaming videos. So now I have my entire movie/TV collection on my Synology NAS, which I can pull up on my Nexus 4 and stream the video's on my chromecast. It has OTF bandwidth/conversion, and so far has been running wonderfully!
Finally, my chromecast is useful. Big props to Synology for making this happen.
Sorry, this is mostly just me being a fanboy for Synology since they made such an obscure device a relatively high priority and have done so better than anything else out at the moment! (no, I do not work for them).
Nice. Good on Synology for supporting Chromecast! With millions of Chromecast shipped and now being shipped internationally I'm pretty sure it's no longer being considered obscure.
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Nice. Good on Synology for supporting Chromecast! With millions of Chromecast shipped and now being shipped internationally I'm pretty sure it's no longer being considered obscure.
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What is Synology?? Could you give a small brief description? Isit like a 24/7server. Or is it something else Does it cost
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What is Synology?? Could you give a small brief description? Isit like a 24/7server. Or is it something else Does it cost
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It's an NAS Manufacturer with built in Media Server.
Not sure of it's ability to transcode but I do know there is a version of Plex made for some of their NAS units.
This is going to become a bigger use in the future. I used the readyNAS plex server package on my zyxcel nsa320. Works great!
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shelby04861 said:
This is going to become a bigger use in the future. I used the readyNAS plex server package on my zyxcel nsa320. Works great!
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Plex for NAS works well but it can get overcome if heavy transcode is needed.
Agreed. I just keep it all one format to minimize the need.
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Agreed. I just keep it all one format to minimize the need.
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I highly recommend an NAS to anyone who wants to stream Media. If you find you need better Transcode later on you can always add a server and map the NAS to it.
I have a Beefy HTPC that I was already running XBMC on with a Seagate 16TB NAS with Raid mapped to it. Installed Plex to that machine and it has pretty much been smooth sailing ever since.