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I've searched around a bit (maybe not as long as I should've), but I don't see how to remove the stock bloatware apps that come with this phone.
Can someone point me to a guide, or give me a quick run down?
Flapjack said:
I've searched around a bit (maybe not as long as I should've), but I don't see how to remove the stock bloatware apps that come with this phone.
Can someone point me to a guide, or give me a quick run down?
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Its a pain lol. Theres so many i just gave up lol (fyi they don't take up much space)
This is the code :
Code:
adb shell
su
rm /system/app/<apk name>
pm uninstall <package name>
Just download Titanium Backup form Android Market and you can delete apks easily. HTH.
Daneshm90 said:
Its a pain lol. Theres so many i just gave up lol (fyi they don't take up much space)
This is the code :
Code:
adb shell
su
rm /system/app/<apk name>
pm uninstall <package name>
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Yeah, it does seem like a PITA.
antz88c said:
Just download Titanium Backup form Android Market and you can delete apks easily. HTH.
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Maybe I'll try that. Do you have to actually do a backup/restore process before you can remove them? Or can you just remove them from the app itself?
antz88c said:
Just download Titanium Backup form Android Market and you can delete apks easily. HTH.
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You could do that but then ur left with a /data/data folder for ur app and its name under packages.xml.
The other thing that kills me is that a lot of these apps keep popping up for now reason. I run "Advanced Task Killer" on a frequent basis, but I'll find apps like "Slacker" sitting there, taking up memory.
I know a lot of these apps are set to run on startup.... but why are they just starting up at random times?
I feel like I have so little control over this phone... it actually scares me. I knew everything my WinMo phone was doing at all times.
Daneshm90 said:
You could do that but then ur left with a /data/data folder for ur app and its name under packages.xml.
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Can these items just be deleted?
I went to Samsung Firmwares and got the UGJG8 firmware and flashed that using Odin and 512.pit. You will get a 100% bone stock i9000m with no bloatware.
Just remember to write down your current APN settings as you will have to readd them.
antz88c said:
Just download Titanium Backup form Android Market and you can delete apks easily. HTH.
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Call me an idiot, but I can't figure out who to remove apps with this app.
Flapjack said:
Can these items just be deleted?
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They could but that would be longer, since ud have to go through packages.xml to look for ur app. In simple terms :
Its like uninstall a windows software. Your deleting its c:\program files directory whereas im going to "uninstall software" and following procedure.
BobbyTee said:
I went to Samsung Firmwares and got the UGJG8 firmware and flashed that using Odin and 512.pit. You will get a 100% bone stock i9000m with no bloatware.
Just remember to write down your current APN settings as you will have to readd them.
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How in the heck do you find that? I've been all over the Samsung site and I can only find are Windows drivers.
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Nevermind, I found it on another site. I think this is what you meant, right?:
http://samsung-firmwares.com/i9000.htm
Also, what is the difference between the I9000DTJG4 and the I9000UGJG8 firmware?
Daneshm90 said:
They could but that would be longer, since ud have to go through packages.xml to look for ur app. In simple terms :
Its like uninstall a windows software. Your deleting its c:\program files directory whereas im going to "uninstall software" and following procedure.
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Got it.
Now, is that a script I need to write for each app? I haven't even gone so far as to explore the file system, let alone write scripts. Is there a good (recommended) app for putting scripts together? ...or are you just using a notepad type editor in Windows, then copying them over via SD card?
Flapjack said:
Got it.
Now, is that a script I need to write for each app? I haven't even gone so far as to explore the file system, let alone write scripts. Is there a good (recommended) app for putting scripts together? ...or are you just using a notepad type editor in Windows, then copying them over via SD card?
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Sure u can write a quick .bat script that does this or manually enter them in command-prompt up 2 u. Btw, what exactly is ur issue with the bloat-software ? is it the space its taking up ? or being shown in app drawer ? Cuz if ur using launcher-pro u can hide those apps from the drawer. Honestly they don't take up tht much space.
Daneshm90 said:
Sure u can write a quick .bat script that does this or manually enter them in command-prompt up 2 u. Btw, what exactly is ur issue with the bloat-software ? is it the space its taking up ? or being shown in app drawer ? Cuz if ur using launcher-pro u can hide those apps from the drawer. Honestly they don't take up tht much space.
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Well, the biggest thing is that they're actually running without me opening them (eg: Slacker). That is really starting to piss me off. Secondly, they are very clutter-some. I don't have Launcher Pro, though I've heard good things about it. Is this something I get from the Marketplace? It runs instead of the Samsung interface, right?
**EDIT**
Just found "LauncherPro" on the Market. Looks good, but many are complaining the latest version is laggy/buggy and has obnoxious ad placement.
Does anyone have the next most recent version?
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Well, the biggest thing is that they're actually running without me opening them (eg: Slacker). That is really starting to piss me off. Secondly, they are very clutter-some. I don't have Launcher Pro, though I've heard good things about it. Is this something I get from the Marketplace? It runs instead of the Samsung interface, right?
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Nope its independent of proprietary frameworks, i.e it runs on stock.
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Nope its independent of proprietary frameworks, i.e it runs on stock.
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So would this be ok to install right now, or wait until I possibly flash the bone-stock firmware (which ironically would eliminate the included apps)?
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So would this be ok to install right now, or wait until I possibly flash the bone-stock firmware (which ironically would eliminate the included apps)?
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Nope it'll run on ANY proprietary/nonproprietary android firmware which is 2.0+
I just use root explorer and delete apk+odex from system/app
fua said:
I just use root explorer and delete apk+odex from system/app
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Can you go into a little more detail? What is odex?
Its fairly easy, actually.. No apps or code needed. Go to:
Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications
Press the menu button, and press Filter. Then change the selection to "All"
Tried firefox for android beta2 today and it freezed my phone, so I uninstall it only to realise that it locked 13MB of my internal memory permanently probably due to bad uninstall. Tried to reinstall it so that I can uninstall it again but it didn't allow me to install again saying that I don't have enough memory (though i still have ~45 MB free internal memory).
Anyone knows where does firefox install to? I couldn't find it in any of the app directory (not in data\app or system\app, nothing in dalvik cache and data\data as well). having 14MB memory locked is really a paint considering how small our milestone memory is.
Please help.
Thanks
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Tried firefox for android beta2 today and it freezed my phone, so I uninstall it only to realise that it locked 13MB of my internal memory permanently probably due to bad uninstall. Tried to reinstall it so that I can uninstall it again but it didn't allow me to install again saying that I don't have enough memory (though i still have ~45 MB free internal memory).
Anyone knows where does firefox install to? I couldn't find it in any of the app directory (not in data\app or system\app, nothing in dalvik cache and data\data as well). having 14MB memory locked is really a paint considering how small our milestone memory is.
Please help.
Thanks
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bump. please can someone help. thanks
en0203 said:
bump. please can someone help. thanks
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1.Do you have a recent nandroid backup? that would be a simple fix?
2. What rom and kernel are you using?
3. Is your phone rooted? Probably yes...All the apps go to /system/app, unless you have apps2sd installed
4. If it's not there and it's not in "manage applications" then probably it's a an error of your rom showing erroneous available space.
Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
1) I am using XT720, we don't have nandroid backup tools yet
2) Stock EU rom and kernel for XT720
3) yes, rooted. I am sure it's not in /system/app (mine has got apps2sd)
4) I guess I'll probably need to reflash the rom to get rid of it then. a bit troublesome but no choice I guess.
Something about the firefox is that if you install it you'll find that the space taken up by the firefox is much bigger than the .apk+dalvik cache+data in the normal app installation path. some portion gets installed into somewhere else which nobody knows where. My friend with a Nexus one try to move it to sd but it simply won't move the whole thing because part of it does not install to the /app.
Anyway, thanks for the help. I'll wait another day or two before I flash it to stock again.
Many thanks
en0203 said:
Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
1) I am using XT720, we don't have nandroid backup tools yet
2) Stock EU rom and kernel for XT720
3) yes, rooted. I am sure it's not in /system/app (mine has got apps2sd)
4) I guess I'll probably need to reflash the rom to get rid of it then. a bit troublesome but no choice I guess.
Something about the firefox is that if you install it you'll find that the space taken up by the firefox is much bigger than the .apk+dalvik cache+data in the normal app installation path. some portion gets installed into somewhere else which nobody knows where. My friend with a Nexus one try to move it to sd but it simply won't move the whole thing because part of it does not install to the /app.
Anyway, thanks for the help. I'll wait another day or two before I flash it to stock again.
Many thanks
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Can you go into recovery? ADB commands actually work as root there.
You also said you have app2sd - I'm guessing the ext version. You can browse around the ext partition if you have something that can read it (like Ubuntu) and delete it from the card as well.
- Look into your /cache partition and delete every download*.apk
- Look into /data/app and look if there is still an apk left
- Look into /data/data and see if a Firefox-folder is located there - delete it!
You can do all this with RootExplorer
Then you should be fixed
Milestone isn't supported. I think I read it somewhere on the mozilla site. There's some known issue logged somewhere
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
Check if there is any "*.tmp" files under /data/app ?
I was locked some memory due to unsuccessful install of "Pocket Legends", and found out that the apks were stored in both "/cache/downloadfile.apk" and "/data/app/vmxyzxyz.tmp".
I've posted this ROM some days ago in a portuguese forum. Now i'm also doing it here.
If you don't like it, don't use it!!
This ROM is based in portuguese unbranded v10a (android 2.2).
I've been using it in my phone since i have it, and is just a minimalist ROM, with some tweaks made.
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Partitions data and cache will NOT be erased while flashing.
It is highly recommended to erase them before starting to use this ROM.
CHANGES MADE
- app & framework deodexed
- apk zipaligned
- rooted + superuser
- busybox added
- jit enabled
- heapsize increased to 32m
- market updated to version 2.2.7
- apns all removed, except Portuguese Vodafone (link to full apns below)
- lots of apps removed (see the removed apk file to see what's missing)
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REQUIREMENTS
a)
Phone with Custom Recovery
b)
ROM download: LINK
md5 be56c77b6c84cab2e5454c46965ee36c
INSTRUCTIONS
1º
Copy ROM to flash card
2º
Start phone in Recovery mode (Vol- + Home + Power)
3º
Wipe data/cache and .android_secure, flash zip, reboot
Done!
Note:
If for some reason something you want to do doesn't work, just find the apks missing and install them. It's easy to find what you want!
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Enable other tweaks: LINK
Download of full apns file: LINK
md5 eb9427d559c2f9b1bbf78f60aebbe4c8
To have all apns back, just copy the file to /system/etc/, and overwrite the file. Reboot your phone and it's done.
Don't forget to change /system/ to read-write before trying to copy the file.
Download of removed apps: LINK
md5 3abbee8e55e8f31f286a9f13a902530c
To install any app you want, just copy the file to /system/app/, change permissions of files copied to 644 and reboot you phone.
Again, don't forget to change /system/ to read-write before trying to copy any file.
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Benchmarks:
(after running script for tweaks)
NOTE: benchmarks were done after instaling some apps.
hardware acceleration - on
jit - enabled
stagefright player - true
heapsize memory - 32m
benchmark: run1 run2 run3 run4 run5
linpack 1.1.7 7.447 7.38 7.378 7.441 7.486
quadrant 1.1.4 1084 1039 1059 1073 1056
neocore 1.9.22 with sound 42.7 43.2 43.5 43.5 43.6
neocore 1.9.22 without sound 48.5 48.5 48.3 48.3 48.4
cpu benchmark 1.7.1 1581ms 1525ms 1531ms 1572ms 1566ms
gpu bench 1.0.0 absolute 23515 23904 23894 23465 23722
gpu bench 1.0.0 relative 27476 27617 27550 27328 27529
membench 1.1 copy MB/sec 8.70 8.77 8.93 8.70
membench 1.1 add MB/sec 8.67 8.67 8.72 8.72
benchmarkpi 1.11 2691 2662 2697 2685 2672
speed pi 1.0 10m 8.175 8.203 8.393 8.483 8.294
can i install the oc_kernel on this rom??? thanks
please, can you post a home screenshot of this rom ?
antopt1 said:
can i install the oc_kernel on this rom??? thanks
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I think so, but it's better to ask to nojein about that. I never used that kernel.
antopt1 said:
please, can you post a home screenshot of this rom ?
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No screenshot needed. This ROM uses the default LG homescreen.
This is just a stripped down original ROM, with few tweaks. I like it that way
I know this is old, but thanks Apparently, this and void are the only light ROMs that don't come with Darktremor's apps2sd. I dont like putting everything in the SD card
My ROMs will never have app2sd included.
I'm using a newer version, with Zeam instead of LG launcher. But i don't know if i can use Zeam in my ROMs without having issues with the author of the app... So i didn't upload it.
Anyway my laptop is broken, so i don't have a computer to use. When i earn enough money and buy a new one, i'll upload another ROM with a new look.
Why do you say this is old?
EDIT:
I managed to boot my phone with only five apps, but of course it wouldn't do anything...
I could remove more apps and make it lighter, but this is the minimum stuff needed to have full functionality without FCs somewhere. If i started to remove more stuff, i would lose basic apps, or make FC.
I also didn't enable hardware acceleration by default because i didn't see any improvement in performance. Same goes to stagefright. Only visible improvement was in quadrant, but that really means nothing.
Most people that complain about phone speed, should look at the amount of apps they install.
ruigui said:
Why do you say this is old?
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Because it was on the last page. Sorry, I was just being paranoid about mods sort of bashing people for opening up old threads
I also didn't enable hardware acceleration by default because i didn't see any improvement in performance. Same goes to stagefright. Only visible improvement was in quadrant, but that really means nothing.
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This makes this the most sensible ROM out there (that's my opinion) On my previous ROM, i couldn't disable stagefright for some reason, so I flashed this. I'm still playing around with HW acceleration and JIT.
Most people that complain about phone speed, should look at the amount of apps they install.
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Agree. With the amount of apps I have because of this rom, I dont have those long term usage slowdowns where only a reboot could "clean" the RAM.
Also, I'll try to make a ROM of my own(soon, granted im not lazy). I'm running Arch Linux (main), but I have been really really lazy on finding the appropriate (arch equivalent) packages for compiling xD
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Because it was on the last page. Sorry, I was just being paranoid about mods sort of bashing people for opening up old threads
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This ROM doesn't even have one month!
There are lots of new threads, and this isn't a popular ROM, so it went to last pages...
I thought about adding a kernel that could enable oc, but my phone works so well that i didn't see any advantage in doing that.
It's better to keep things simple and running.
About arch, can't help. Never used it. I'm a debian user
I also hardly reboot my phone. Only when i forget to charge battery.
Are you seeing any improvements with hw acc? I didn't. I enabled jit by default because it was so talked when 2.2 came out. But never tried to use phone with it disabled.
ruigui said:
Are you seeing any improvements with hw acc? I didn't. I enabled jit by default because it was so talked when 2.2 came out. But never tried to use phone with it disabled.
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Not really. However, with the stock ROM at stock everything, I get a 400+ quadrant score. In this ROM with HW acceleration and JIT enabled, I get 555. I'll test it again with less variables and factors or stuff.
I'm not turning them off, btw. I might come across something well that used to not work properly with HW accel off
I've just installed your rom.
Restored apps and data with Titanium Backup.
Well...
AWESOME ROM! Thank you very very much!
It is so fast and stable.
Very very good work
I've only one problem. I've installed calcoulator and calendar apk. All fine for the first one but i cannot sinc gmail calendar nor exchange calendar, and when i go in to the calendar options, it give com.calendar.com error.
To restore apps from original ROM, always copy them to /system/app (dont forget to mount it first as read-write). Lots of these apps have issues if the go to /data/app.
After cppying them, change their permissions to 644 and reboot.
I dont use sync stuff, so it was removed...
First download the zip file with apk removed. Uncompress it, and copy to /system/app these apk:
calendar.apk
calendarprovider.apk
googlecalendarsyncadapter.apk
googlecontactssyncadapter.apk
calculator.apk
These should be enough to have calendar with sync, contacts with sync, and calculator.
If you installed these apps to /data/app, dont forget to remove them first. If you remove manualy, you must delete files in /data/app, /data/dalvik-cache, /data/data
EDIT:
This ROM only has gereric mail app. If you want gmail app, also copy gmail.apk
My primary mail account is gmail, but i only use generic email app. Never really needed gmail one.... And all works ok
Thx today i'll try with to add
calendarprovider.apk
googlecalendarsyncadapter.apk
googlecontactssyncadapter.apk
as you said
Thank you very much
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It works! Thank You very much!
I have a question... Do i need to partition my micro sd for this to work? thanks in advance.
No you don't. This ROM doesn't have a2sd.
ruigui said:
No you don't. This ROM doesn't have a2sd.
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Thanks. let me try this.
Let me apologize first of all as I come from 5 years of using Windows Mobile knwoing what I am doing (cooking ROMs included) and now just got my Galaxy /Android a couple weeks ago and am blank at all of it.
After messing up with some system files and (useless) stock applications (like I removed stk.apk and other stuff) I decided to do a full hardware reset as the phone started getting random crashes.
But after the full reset things only got dramatically worse. I quickly realized all the missing system apps are still missing (I thought they'd be "restored") and basically nothing works, just crashes one after the next, cant use anything.
So, a hardware system reset on the galaxy, doesnt really reset anything except user installed apps and settings... amazing
Can someone please tell me (the idiot here, I know) how to do a real full restore where all system files, all missing files and positively everything gets back in the Tab as it was originally?
What a flippin' nightmare... Thanks in advance very much!
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
if you don't have a backup of this apk, download a rom (like Modaco or Overcome),
open with winzip and extract the Stk.zpk from system/app and push it to /system/app on your Tab using adb (remember set the permissions to 644 after push).
A hardreset NO restores deletions on /system
Note: Other files that are not deleteable in /system/app are: Browser.apk, Email.apk, TouchWiz30Launcher.apk and TwWallpaperChooser.apk
Note (2): For your convenience, i attach the Stk.apk file from Overcome-1.1.3. Try it
Note (3): In order to restore ALL system data and apps, you need to restore a full rom.
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OK, first of all a big thanks for both file and info. Aside from the Stk.apk, the biggest thing that made me run into problems was trying to update my Contacts.apk:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907399
things didnt work out for me and even after restoring the original files (Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex) nothing really worked again, reason for wich I tried a system reset.
Now, do I need to re-root the Tab or its still rooted, and can I perform the operations easily with Root Explorer like I did before? You mentioned to use adb and set permissions to 644 after push but, sorry again for the ignorance, I have no clue what adb is nor what/how to set permissions. Pathetic to be ignorant huh?
My last 2 questions are, where could I find the original Contacts.apk and Contacts.odex and if needed a full ROM to do a total restore?... hopefully I wont need to get to that point?...
Thanks a million again.
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
bartito said:
hi,
try to download overcome-1.1.3, and extract all the deleted apk's from system/app directory. push into the /system/app in your tab.
the apk's of overcome are deodexed (you don't need the .odex files). after that, wipe your data/cache and reboot.
if this don't works, try with roto rom
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Hmmmm thanks again but I think Im beyond all this. I dont have a file manager on my system, just realized I deleted the useless stock one and had repalced it with Root Explorer and ES File Explorer. I have them on my External SD Card to install them again but withou a file manager or an app installer cant get to them. And I tried download an app installer from the Market and get Framework errors non-stop and downloads do not initialize... I think Im beyond a quick fix... how do I get my hands on a stock full ROM to restore everything... and how? What a nightmare... gotta tell you, I love Windows Mobile... I love it... never ran into anything like this in the past 5 years of using it... never...
Thanks again!
use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
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use "adb" in order to access to your tab from your desktop pc.
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Cant. Dont even know if I need Kies installed or not (I did have it installed) but adb just asks me to connect the phone and thats it... its connected aready... this is desperating...
OK I did manage to connect with adb but, how to I install applications? I can navigate to my SD card where I have ES File Explorer and Root Explorer but dont seem to be able to install them... Also if i try to copy Stk.apk I get immediately an failute message... this is crazy...
OK so I managed to install ES File Explorer and Root Explorer with adb... crazy process. It seems my phone is still rooted after the reset. From the phone I copied Stk.apk back to /system/apps where it was before deleted.
But needless to say nothing got fixed... not sure if Stk.apk is now "actually" installed or just there in the folder. But still nothing works and crashes every 10 seconds... logs provider, dialer, phone, framework, contacts... its all a firework of crashes...
Given that you've hard reset your device already, you are pretty much wasting your time trying to "fix" what you broke by messing with /system, and you should really just flash another ROM.
My suggestion would be to follow the advice on this thread.
Regards,
Dave
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
VeEuzUKY said:
Yeap, that what i did and it was succesfull. My only issue is that Id like to convert my Tab's file system to ext4 to improve speed and performance and then update to the 1.4Ghz OC Kernel. I have no idea how to do those 2 things... actually Im not sure I understand the difference between a ROM and a Kernel... I assume a Kernel is part of the engine of the ROM itself but I have no idea how to perform the update. I read countless threads and its all scattered info without finding one straight to the point guide on how to do it...
Thanks again
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Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Part of your problem is that you are trying to run before you can walk! Your experience with WinMo is of pretty much no use to you in the Linux/Android world, and until you get a better handle of how everything hands together you are always going to feel a little lost.
Personally, since your device is now up and running again, I'd suggest that you hold off doing anything else for while, until you get a chance to catch up with some of the basics. Once you are a little more familiar, you can then start with something simple like flashing the MoDaCo kernel (instructions here) to support EXT4, and to give you access to ClockworkMod recovery.
IMO, whilst EXT4 and O/C kernels will give you a performance boost, they are not as noticeable as jumping from a shipping ROM to one of the JMx development builds that Samsung has put out. If you are running JMI, you should already be feeling that the device has got much snappier.
Regards,
Dave
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Yes Dave you are right, right and right again!!! Thank you for the wisdom and advice!!!
The main thing I have understood with today's messy experience was that the actual ROM files are never deleted or damaged as long as you dont access them via a rooted tool and start deleting them. Now I understand that Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup (my favorite), My Backup Pro and others, only back-up and restore what the user installs on top of the ROM itself. So a full "reset" wipes all that data but leaves the ROM files as they always were. If they got damaged in the process, they'll still be damaged till a a full ROM restores all system data, now I get it.
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
Till I find an app or way to do a simple one-click "backup everything" and then "restore evertything" I always feel vulnerable to changes I make to the Tab that may get it unstable or corrupt and then not being able to be restored properly without a full ROM Flash and then re-installing all from scratch.
With WinMo, I could do all sorts of crazy experiments and tweaking and after that, a registry restore or back-up restore would bring me back my phone to exactly like it was with all my stuff and configuration in a matter of seconds or minutes. Thats what I need to find out with this Tab/Android and then Im ready to be able to explore messing up with this knowing I can always easily go back within minutes to the state I had before with all my apps and settings.
This is what I need to learn next how to do! Trampoline without a safety net is not a good idea. Ive alwways loved WinMo for the ease of backing up and restoring whatever I was doing on my handsets withjout ever worrying to put myself at risk to loose it all. I need to learn this on Android and its definitely more intricate!
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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instechgainza said:
just put sdcard into your samsung tab and flash modaco kernel amd it will automatically covert to ext4, after that you can flash the 1.4ghz kernel you wanted.
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Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
VeEuzUKY said:
Sorry, I cant follow you. I put an SD card in and flash modaco kernel? What files do I put on the sd card for this effect?...
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no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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instechgainza said:
no...you need a kernel to flash via odin, you need sdcard mounted so that it will backup all files automatically while converting to ext4..head over to modaco kernel section amd follow the instruction.
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Where is the modaco kernel section you refer to? I can search for hours and find zilch... these blogs are endless...
VeEuzUKY said:
What I still dont get is the issue of bakcing up and restoring. In Windows Mobile, a toll like SPB Backup has a simple option called FULL BACKUP and that backs-up everything on top of the ROM and then restores everything after a full reset on top of the ROM again like it was before. The problem I have with apps like Titanium Backup, Sprint Backup, My Backup Pro, etc... is that there is not a "BACKUP ALL" option... one has to backup "data", "settings", "apps" and I always feel stuff will be left behind and then not restored.
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What you want is a Nandroid backup, which you can only make from a recovery image like Clockworkmod recovery.
Essentially, this does exactly what you want, but you need to flash a new kernel (e.g. the MoDaCo kernel) which supports Clockwordmod.
Regards,
Dave
bartito said:
deletion of Stk.apk causes FC's in phone and acore.
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i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
b0ricuaguerrero said:
i beg to differ about stk.apk fc's your phone. that's the first thing i delete when removing system apps with no fc's
refer to this link about having a bare bones system. stk.apk is for management of multiple sim cards
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
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When I delete stk.apk (for me useless useless useless) the first thing that happens immediately is that when I hang-up on a call made or received, the Tab vibrates then freezes for about 5 seconds then tells me the phone application has crashed. I tried this with 2 ROMs now as a test and its guaranteed. More even, if you use a program like SYSTEM APP REMOVER you can emulate the removal of an app by disabling it... it only takes me to disable STK and a reboot for the phone not to work. cant get rid of it, that simple
There's been a lot of speculation on what can and can't be removed as well as how to remove them without causing force-closes, boot loops, and other headaches. So I wrote this script that will let you disable all of the bloat with none of the hassle.
After a few prompts to find out if there's anything you want to keep that can't be replaced in the market, it will do its magic -- renaming files to a .bak extension so they are no longer recognized by Android. This will cause some system services to fail and force-close loop until you reboot (and the script reboots for you). Also included is a script that will undo all of this.
If you select every option, including the default launcher and text messaging apps (which are confirmed safe to remove without losing SMS or MMS ability or push notifications), then here's the list of apps removed:
AdService.apk, android-syncservice-app.apk, ArcVideoEditorLite.apk, BackupAssistanceClient.apk, Blockbuster.apk, BlurHome2.apk, BlurSNMessagingEngine.apk, BlurTasks.apk, BlurUpdater_VZW.apk, BooksPhone.apk, CitrixReceiver.apk, CityID.apk, Conversations.apk, DLNA.apk, DlnaSystemService.apk, FriendFeed.apk, gotomeeting-stub-1.0.74.apk, GuidedTours.apk, HelpCenter.apk, IMPresence.apk, IndexingService.apk, Kindle.apk, MessagesWidget.apk, Messaging.apk, MOTOPRINT.apk, MSExchangeService.apk, MyVerizon.apk, NewBayVault_4.2.99.36.Market.apk, NFLMobile.apk, OnlineAlbum.apk, PhotoEditor.apk, PortalStandAlone.apk, Preloaded.apk, RichLocationVzW.apk, SkypeBourbon.apk, Slackerradio.apk, SocialMessaging.apk, SocialShare.apk, StatusWidget.apk, SuggestionsProvider.apk, SuggestionsRuleCheckerCore.apk, SuggestionsServiceScheduler.apk, Swype.apk, ToggleWidgets.apk, UniversalInbox.apk, Upgrader.apk, VCAST_TONES_4_5_7.apk, VCASTMusic.apk, VCASTVideo.apk, VSuiteApp.apk, vzw_vnav_DROID3_rel_PROD_signed.apk, VZWIM.apk, VZWInstaller.apk, WeatherWidget.apk, ZumoCast_1.0.17.apk
Make sure you run these scripts using Script Manager or a comparable app and be sure to enable it to run as root or it won't have permission to make changes to /system/app.
This is version 1 of the scripts -- if any of the apps removed wind up causing problems or more are found, I'll add it to the list. I've tested the scripts back and forth myself and have tested it as much as I can without finding any issues. Also, some apps are removed without asking, such as ZumoCast or VCAST or NFL Mobile. You can find these apps in the market, so there's no point keeping them locked down in system.
Enjoy! Comments are welcome.
UPDATE 9/1/2011: fixed a typo in one of the variables (thanks everyone who reported this), added more options to keep (Swype and Car Dock Voice Commands), split into two versions -- one for the stock 5.5.959 build and 5.6.890 update (late August OTA), added a warning about removing the home screen without a launcher and that it removes the Calendar widget.
Great, but maybe it would be nice to make a y/n option for each .apk where it asks you if you want to delete that apk
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instructions for use?
thanks
DoubleYouPee said:
Great, but maybe it would be nice to make a y/n option for each .apk where it asks you if you want to delete that apk
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You shouldn't delete them -- we don't have an SPF yet. Someone posted the complete /system/app contents and you could restore, technically, manually, but it's a bad idea. Renaming to a .bak is completely effective.
lodisax said:
instructions for use?
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Read the post.
You'll want to use Script Manager -- unzip the two scripts to your SD card (internal or external), launch Script Manager (free version is fine), find the script and click it, then tick on 'root' and then run the script. Follow the prompts from there.
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thanks for the answer
psouza4 said:
You shouldn't delete them -- we don't have an SPF yet. Someone posted the complete /system/app contents and you could restore, technically, manually, but it's a bad idea. Renaming to a .bak is completely effective.
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Yeh sorry that's what I meant.. Option to y/n rename the apk.
I'd like to use the script once I get my droid 3 but would like to 'keep' some of the apks.
DoubleYouPee said:
Yeh sorry that's what I meant.. Option to y/n rename the apk.
I'd like to use the script once I get my droid 3 but would like to 'keep' some of the apks.
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There's Y/N for anything you'd want to keep. About 6-7 questions in total. Anything that you can't find in the market that isn't definitely bloat has a prompt.
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script manager that you use?
I use script manager and asked me if I want to remove each apk or not.
There is a script manager that does everything automatically?
thanks for the answer
lodisax said:
script manager that you use?
I use script manager and asked me if I want to remove each apk or not.
There is a script manager that does everything automatically?
thanks for the answer
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Please read the thread thoroughly -- I'm going to ignore obvious questions like these.
psouza4 said:
There's Y/N for anything you'd want to keep. About 6-7 questions in total. Anything that you can't find in the market that isn't definitely bloat has a prompt.
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So what if I wanna keep DLNA, photoeditor and socialmessaging?
DoubleYouPee said:
So what if I wanna keep DLNA, photoeditor and socialmessaging?
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Then answer 'Y' to the prompts asking if you want to keep 'DLNA' or 'social messaging'. There are plenty of photo editors in the market, so there's no prompt on that (although if you were so inclined, you could just rename the .BAK's back to their original files). I feel you haven't actually looked at the script or read my post.
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I've tested the scripts back and forth myself and have tested it as much as I can without finding any issues. Also, some apps are removed without asking, such as ZumoCast or VCAST or NFL Mobile.
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I think the ultimate test is to do factory reset and see how device will go through initialization stage. It can be surprises which are not noticeable during normal use. Without this it is kind of premature to say what is safe to delete and what is not.
serg675 said:
I think the ultimate test is to do factory reset and see how device will go through initialization stage. It can be surprises which are not noticeable during normal use. Without this it is kind of premature to say what is safe to delete and what is not.
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Ehh I agree with you to a point, because i made the very noobish mistake of uninstalling bloat that i knew would not effect daily use; however, I did a factory reset to test a theory for krazy and learned that something I uninstalled makes the setup process FC and wont let you get to the blur launcher, luckily other launchers work and I was able to batch install via adb.
Thing is though is if the phone reboots when this stuff is renamed then it will survive a factory reset, though it may do the same thing mine has done. If it does its no big deal to load up adb and rename the files back so that you can complete the setup.
You forgot the World Clock widget in your removal script; the only clock that thinks it needs a permanently-resident service, regardless of whether it's running or not.
Xenoproctologist said:
You forgot the World Clock widget in your removal script; the only clock that thinks it needs a permanently-resident service, regardless of whether it's running or not.
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That messes with the dock though, so I don't consider it bloat.
I know its a lot to ask... but can someone either create a comprehensive list of what each one actually does... or point us in a direction to where there already is one?
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Seirÿu said:
I know its a lot to ask... but can someone either create a comprehensive list of what each one actually does... or point us in a direction to where there already is one?
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Open the script in a text editor and read my comments -- it gives each one a title.
@psouza4 - nice work, it's about time someone took a more organised approach to figuring out what apks are safe to remove.
I tried to get a similar effort going here :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17004394&postcount=11
but the way people behave on this forum, it's like trying to herd cats.
thingonaspring said:
@psouza4 - nice work, it's about time someone took a more organised approach to figuring out what apks are safe to remove.
I tried to get a similar effort going here :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17004394&postcount=11
but the way people behave on this forum, it's like trying to herd cats.
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Thanks!
Couple of notes, too:
It was asked in IRC why I'm removing 'android-syncservice-app.apk'. This service is the extra backup stuff that Verizon added on (as evidenced inside the package in /assets/system.properties you'll find several references to verizon servers for sync, like sm_connection_url=http://syncba.myvzw.com/syncml). This service doesn't do anything beneficial for you unless you really have a hard-on for Verizon's sync stuff. I've had it disabled since we achieved root and it has no affect on account sync services (contacts, gmail, calendar, reader, etc.) nor SMS/MMS push notifications, etc.
Also, a fellow PM'd me saying he got errors that variable names were invalid -- turns out he had edited the script in Windows, saved it, and that broke the UNIX-style line endings. If you're going to modify the script, use Notepad++, UltraEdit, or something that will maintain the correct line endings. Or just use an editor on the phone, such as in Root Explorer.
Thanks a bunch man, works great. About to run a benchmark to see the results!