How can we get Google to develop a Honeycomb Google Voice app? - Xoom Themes and Apps

One of the main reasons I went with an Android Honeycomb tablet versus the iPad 2 is the deep level of Google account integration with Honeycomb. I was willing to overlook the lack of Honeycomb-based apps, knowing that Google would push it as they did O.G. Android (and that certainly paid off).
Oddly enough -- one of the few apps that you cannot even download for Honeycomb even though there is a pre-3.0 counterpart, is Google Voice. GV users on HC have to download an old, hacked version of the APK (to give you an idea of how out-dated, it is from before the GV app had push notifications).
How do we go about pushing Google to get HC users a working GV app, one that we can download from the Market??
I hate starting things like this, but the situation is dire (okay, not really, but still!). My plan is to tweet "Please @googlevoice push out a #Honeycomb compatible #googlevoice TODAY!" or "What does #Honeycomb and #iOS have in common? No native @googlevoice app!"

ralexand said:
One of the main reasons I went with an Android Honeycomb tablet versus the iPad 2 is the deep level of Google account integration with Honeycomb. I was willing to overlook the lack of Honeycomb-based apps, knowing that Google would push it as they did O.G. Android (and that certainly paid off).
Oddly enough -- one of the few apps that you cannot even download for Honeycomb even though there is a pre-3.0 counterpart, is Google Voice. GV users on HC have to download an old, hacked version of the APK (to give you an idea of how out-dated, it is from before the GV app had push notifications).
How do we go about pushing Google to get HC users a working GV app, one that we can download from the Market??
I hate starting things like this, but the situation is dire (okay, not really, but still!). My plan is to tweet "Please @googlevoice push out a #Honeycomb compatible #googlevoice TODAY!" or "What does #Honeycomb and #iOS have in common? No native @googlevoice app!"
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Well, the latest version in the market works fine on the xoom with out [email protected] anything. You have to download it on your phone, then move it - or I can post it for you if you want. Then side load it. No big deal.
Second, I don't think we can really complain, its a free service and a free app. They'll release it when its ready. I don't want a big pile of crap software because they released it to early, it's what got the Xoom into a lot of its mess in the first place.

Kcarpenter said:
Well, the latest version in the market works fine on the xoom with out [email protected] anything. You have to download it on your phone, then move it - or I can post it for you if you want. Then side load it. No big deal.
Second, I don't think we can really complain, its a free service and a free app. They'll release it when its ready. I don't want a big pile of crap software because they released it to early, it's what got the Xoom into a lot of its mess in the first place.
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I agree, and I use GV on my Xoom with no problem by doing what you described above.

ralexand said:
One of the main reasons I went with an Android Honeycomb tablet versus the iPad 2 is the deep level of Google account integration with Honeycomb. I was willing to overlook the lack of Honeycomb-based apps, knowing that Google would push it as they did O.G. Android (and that certainly paid off).
Oddly enough -- one of the few apps that you cannot even download for Honeycomb even though there is a pre-3.0 counterpart, is Google Voice. GV users on HC have to download an old, hacked version of the APK (to give you an idea of how out-dated, it is from before the GV app had push notifications).
How do we go about pushing Google to get HC users a working GV app, one that we can download from the Market??
I hate starting things like this, but the situation is dire (okay, not really, but still!). My plan is to tweet "Please @googlevoice push out a #Honeycomb compatible #googlevoice TODAY!" or "What does #Honeycomb and #iOS have in common? No native @googlevoice app!"
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I agree with you. It's shameful that the ipad has a Google voice app and we don't.
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Yeah, while I support your efforts, I just gave in myself and pulled the APK from a rooted phone. It's here, if you want it, too.

Using the above app on my wifi only xoom I can text, but I can't make calls. Has anyone figured out a way to make calls with their GV number on a wifi xoom?
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Eh. Couldn't care less about calls, only texting (when I'm outside the US, for example).
You can't do it with GV as it stands anyway; the way it works now is it makes a standard voice-call to a Google number.

kcrudup said:
Eh. Couldn't care less about calls, only texting (when I'm outside the US, for example).
You can't do it with GV as it stands anyway; the way it works now is it makes a standard voice-call to a Google number.
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Groove ip in the market allows for voice calls, I'm pretty sure but not positive it works on wifi xooms

I've updated the APK in my Dropbox link above to reflect the new GV released today (0.4.2.32).

Sorry if this has been asked and answered before but how come the refresh options for google voice on our xoom tablets is different than the same version on a non tablet android device?
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nexusonemeover said:
but how come the refresh options for google voice on our xoom tablets is different than the same version on a non tablet android device?
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It's been asked, but that's OK- there's no reason for it, and I'd like to know the rationale for this as well. It's the only thing really lacking in GV right now.

kcrudup said:
I've updated the APK in my Dropbox link above to reflect the new GV released today (0.4.2.32).
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Thanks for this. Works like a charm on my iconia.and btw groove IP works great with gv

blcklab said:
Thanks for this. Works like a charm on my iconia.and btw groove IP works great with gv
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Oh, don't **** around with THAT old version! They just made a new one with HC enhancements- see here.

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[Q] Tablet friendly IM App?

One week for today I'll be getting my gTab and I am new to Android in general. Are there any IM clients that play well with the gTab?
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Honestly... I have yet to find an IM app that doesn't play well. I should also state: that is if you're looking to chat only. Getting into video is a whole other can of worms.
jpmi23 said:
Honestly... I have yet to find an IM app that doesn't play well. I should also state: that is if you're looking to chat only. Getting into video is a whole other can of worms.
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Just straight up IM, no need for video at the moment. New to android so I don't know the popular IM apps at the moment, should probably just search the market and see what is well rated.
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For chat they all seem to work well.
I like imo.im the most.
It just looks better to me,
Its one of the newer im apps.
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One week for today I'll be getting my gTab and I am new to Android in general. Are there any IM clients that play well with the gTab?
Scott
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Personally i use ebuddy which incorporates all my gmail accounts yahoo accounts facebook chat accounts and etc.
I forgot about ebuddy. I tried it before when I was running stock with enhancement pack and it wouldn't work for me. Now im on tnt lite 4.2 and haven't tried it again.
I went with Trillian; I'd been using the PC version for ages, and love the elegance of what they have on Android. YMMV.
I just use google voice. Click on your contact's cell phone number (the smiley face to the right) and text away. You have to set up google voice once and you are good to go. Do a search on this forum for the thread on this topic
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I went with Trillian; I'd been using the PC version for ages, and love the elegance of what they have on Android. YMMV.
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seconded.
i've tried ebuddy, im+ and a few others and Trillian seems to offer the cleanest UI in my opinion.

How to rate and comment on apps from within there honeycomb market?

can't figure this out, Iam quite annoyed. If you can do it on a phone you should be able to do it on a tablet.
If I go to the web based market I can do it, but to hell with that, why should I need to? What an inconvenience.
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IndivisibleP said:
can't figure this out, Iam quite annoyed. If you can do it on a phone you should be able to do it on a tablet.
If I go to the web based market I can do it, but to hell with that, why should I need to? What an inconvenience.
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As of right now you can't.
I've noticed this too. There was one app that I was lookoing at once and it actually had little tabs at the top for comments, ratings and ect. Its weird it isn't for all of them.
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I was trying to figure this out as well, its rediculous that you can't submit ratings on the tablet market app!
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My first pet peeve. What can I say, even Google is not immune to hiring morons.
But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
BTW, it's so annoying that the Facebook widget doesn't work on Honeycomb and neither does Pandora. Jeez.
Yeah the devs are seriously slacking at Facebook
Trillian has a ton of annoyances I'd love to comment on yet can't, so yeah it's pretty annoying.
dextroz said:
My first pet peeve. What can I say, even Google is not immune to hiring morons.
But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
BTW, it's so annoying that the Facebook widget doesn't work on Honeycomb and neither does Pandora. Jeez.
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Let's see you be smart enough to get employed by google then
If you use the web market, you can leave comments. That's what I have been doing.
No comments?
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But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
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WOW! This is the most constructive comment i've read on the internet about this issue so far...thanks!
Since honeycomb ecosystem is not yet evolved, they make it harder for zoom users to post bad comments and bad ratings. They did it on purpose. They were smart to do this in a sence. But it makes me hate their guts a bit.
dextroz said:
But I suspect it is because they don't want a bunch of negative reviews on apps that are not designed for the tablet yet. However, it should still be available for the tablet features apps.
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this is exactly the reason why. i suspect it will soon once they have a way of marking apps which are honeycomb optimized - and then you can comment on those apps
edit: if it bugs you log on to the market from a pc and you can post reviews there
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WOW! This is the most constructive comment i've read on the internet about this issue so far...thanks!
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The answer may be but this ways developers are not pushed to think about Honeycomb support...
199724 said:
The answer may be but this ways developers are not pushed to think about Honeycomb support...
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I wouldn't say that... If developers want to go with the times, they can't simply ignore honeycomb. I'm sure they are thinking about it alright. I agree it's annoying... but just give it some time.
fyi... Load a phone account gmail that u have with a facebook app with... Then goto market and download your market apps from that phone acct... I have a working facebook widget on mine..
I use web browser, login to android market (from xoom), rate, leave comments... then i open market and i can leave, rate apps without browser!

Microsoft to buy skype

Looks like those of us holding out for skype to dump a good release for android w/ video is getting farther away, Looks like Microsoft is buying (or has closed the deal) Skype for 8.5 Billion, bet they don't release Android or Iphone updates all that often now...
Now were did I put that copy of openvoip
http://www.dailytech.com/Report+Mic...ement+Coming+Tuesday+Morning/article21584.htm
Ughhhhh... hey maybe they will make an Android version... and say that WP 7 is more open.
This makes me a sad panda
Just heard they did buy it. Looks like google will have to find a different app to use instead of skype.
hmm... MS and their big bags of money won again...
i know Google was also trying to make the deal with Skype... but seems like Google's pockets were not deep enough
... that's it, i'm deleting all my skypes accounts and uninstalling it from all my PCs and phones
I just hope they don't integrate it with live....
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I just really hope they dont "abandon" android/mac/ios versions
cilice said:
I just really hope they dont "abandon" android/mac/ios versions
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This too,i want android video
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I'm also concerned about the Linux version, and I hope MS won't change anything to make the current clients incompatible...

Enhanced Siri for Android [Eden of the East Edition]

Noblesse Oblige​
This application began as a themed method to access the same Siri servers used by Jailbroken iOS devices, but has since grown to surpass even those.
It now has offline recognition, allowing access to everything that is still available without an Internet connection. It has social broadcasting, which allows users to send messages to the others using the application. It also now supports launching applications and improved navigation.
Future features will include leaderboards to resemble the reports given in the show and integration with Facebook and Twitter, to accompany current integration with YouTube.
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Reserved for any updates and information
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where is the download link??
sebastiand95 said:
where is the download link??
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The very first thing in the op post is the link to the site to get more info, which is where I have the
Since this is a paid app section, I was making sure people know what they're buying
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Link not working...
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Link not working...
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Some people seem to have providers that block short links, so here is a Direct Link
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Wow.
It wouldn't connect to your server, so I switched it to one of the free English/German servers you have listd and it's working great.
The voice recognition on it is freaking amazing, even if I'm basically whispering.
Great job integrating all these different things together.
Sleetish said:
Wow.
It wouldn't connect to your server, so I switched it to one of the free English/German servers you have listd and it's working great.
The voice recognition on it is freaking amazing, even if I'm basically whispering.
Great job integrating all these different things together.
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Pretty much any server listed will provide the basics, just not the extensions. The only issue I have seen is many of those servers are run from Germany, so grammar isn't always perfect and the commands are unnatural.
I will openly admit that I purchased, tore apart, and then based my application on siri0us, which is partnered with grwh. I have been trying to keep the unthemed portions similar, much like a Siri theme would be to allow people the option of using either application without it being a drastic change or confusing process.
Surprisingly, though, some of the grwh moderators have been the most opposition on this project. Even with the server being open source and the mass amount of updates and improvements I have offered back to them, they have this view that I am trying to profit from their server. The application price is unrelated to the server, but the proceeds are used to maintain it. This comes from sacrificing any profit to provide this service back to the user instead. This issue has been addressed and hopefully does not threaten the development of this project.
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did u tried iris...
illuminatic said:
did u tried iris...
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Iris is like the original Siri. It only works right on certain devices, the responses are generic, and you get stuck with what they give you, including ads.
On another note, that application forces religion on the user by responding with numerous references to God and Christianity. This is something I feel deserves some sort of disclaimer and isn't really appropriate for applications that span multiple countries and religions.
This works with pretty much anything, the responses vary and are alway being expanded and updated, you can choose the voice engine, the server can be switched, custom responses can be submitted to the server, no religious belief is chosen for the user, and (thanks to the wolfram plugin) you can still ask things like how much caffeine in a mountain dew.
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I am working on the app launching as a separate plugin. The reason for this is that the server has no way of handling things like that, so having a launch command pass through the server would be silly. The local plugin will intercept the command instead.
The alternative was to have the server pass back a value that was read to launch the app, but I would be running the only server that handled it. This will provide the best method for adding the functionality to any server someone chooses to use.
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Nice, can't wait to try this!
Very nice, downloaded and works perfectly .. thanks for the tip!
The Facebook and Twitter plugins currently return errors when trying to use either of them. This is a known issue that is being addressed and they are still a work in progress.
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First of all, great start, but is is possible to customize the theming? Or for that should I go with a different, non-anime themed app?
Also, where is the best place to submit suggestions for responses?
Japamala said:
First of all, great start, but is is possible to customize the theming? Or for that should I go with a different, non-anime themed app?
Also, where is the best place to submit suggestions for responses?
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Sirious! is an unthemed Siri client, but with theirs you lose the search button launch, some GPS functionality, orientation handling, and the default server is configured to their public one (which gets rid of the server theme components, but also most of the plugins and improvements to the server).
In the app menu, there is a button for custom commands that will take you directly to the page to submit custom responses, or under "Interactions" on the main site listed in the first post. If you mean altering the server responses for other things, you can suggest them through the "Contact Developer" link on Google Play's app page or the site "Resources".
Removing the theme would make this just another bland Siri clone, and that was the whole point of developing a new one. If the theme is really that much of a problem or makes you feel uncool, you may want to wait until sirious! updates their app for Siri servers or try Skyvi, Assistant, Ever Friends, Iris, or any other "generic" voice assistant app.
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Well, it's not so much that it's uncool, it's just not Jarvis
Anyway, the main issue I had was with setting alarms and sending texts, neither of which I could manage to do.
Japamala said:
Well, it's not so much that it's uncool, it's just not Jarvis
Anyway, the main issue I had was with setting alarms and sending texts, neither of which I could manage to do.
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I would have done Alfred and the Bat communicator if I really wanted to meet the Warner Bros. legal team. Anime companies tend to be less strict when it comes to "fan creations" but it's often an issue with those themes being considered "lame" by the general public. I tried not to go too crazy but not make it just a background that didn't fit anything else.
I did catch some errors on alarms that are being looked into and texts seem to be hit or miss. Both are plugins issues with the server so they will get fixed without having to update.
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Yeah, the old famous marvel lawsuits. shame on them.
Anyway, one thing that you should probably look at is the landscape mode. Right now it just stretches the background image, which looks terrible. I had some more response oddities, but I assume you can get those from server logs.
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Yeah, the old famous marvel lawsuits. shame on them.
Anyway, one thing that you should probably look at is the landscape mode. Right now it just stretches the background image, which looks terrible. I had some more response oddities, but I assume you can get those from server logs.
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I can only see it if the command broke somehow. It is configured so my only logs are the IP origin of a failed connection or SSL error and issues with code execution. What is sent and received aren't logged.
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What would make you want an iPhone?

Don't rip my head off for this one.
I'm on vacation, and have to out my phone in airplane mode for the week. I can only do hangouts with people who either have the app, or have android, and use the app. My gf on the other hand, can iMessage all of her friends, video chat with all her friends, etc. Also, my work emails will only work on iPhone, or on android with an outdated gingerbread styled app.
My question is this -
Hypothetically, if the iPhone had a 5" screen, and allowed widgets and launchers, what would you need the iPhone to have in order for you to switch?
I don't think I would switch because I love the look of android, but I feel like I'm waiting for the OS to unify better between OEM makers, and that doesn't seem to be in the near future. I'm jut curious about everyone else's thoughts.
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iOS suckssss. Its boring. There's no customizability. The hardware is nice though, but android manufacturers are now starting to also make some really nice hardware as well.
Only way I'd take iPhone is if I could flash KitKat on it.
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Nothing would make me want an iPhone. Not now not ever. That thing is insanely pointless, and has crappy software with random bugs. Not even the hardware is good and it costs a fortune.
I'd guess making expensive apps so all the rich and upper middle class people would buy them.. Cause rich people constantly know nothing about technology and populate themselves with iDevices just because they think it's good because it's expensive and popular.
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1) Android
2) redesign
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When google buys apple.
ej8989 said:
When google buys apple.
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If that happens, hope they sell beats.
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justinisloco said:
I'm on vacation, and have to out my phone in airplane mode for the week. I can only do hangouts with people who either have the app, or have android, and use the app. My gf on the other hand, can iMessage all of her friends, video chat with all her friends, etc. Also, my work emails will only work on iPhone, or on android with an outdated gingerbread styled app.
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You could have used Google Voice app to text (SMS) your friends (regardless of whether they had iMessage or Hangouts installed), and could have used hangouts/skype for video chatting.
Work Emails, well, yeah, that sucks, My employer (over 75000 employees worldwide) doesn't have an Android app to access the secure network. When some employees (on a quarterly call with a few thousand employees) asked a senior VP "Why no android app", he responded, and I quote, "because as you all know, Android is so easily hacked, and is insecure". Numbnuts!
Yes, I (along with several others) sent Emails to him explaining the facts (and he said that he'll talk to the IT team to see what was needed to get an Android app developed), but the point is that Android development has been on the backburner for many corporations for many (stupid) reasons.
Would I switch to iPhone? If they provided the ability to use launchers/widgets, *and* the ability to sideload apps, *and* the ability to install adaway type apps, *and* the ability to use tasker type app, and they had the screen size that I wanted, and had deep Google Now integration, sure, why not... It would just be another "Android" phone by that time
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You could have used Google Voice app to text (SMS) your friends (regardless of whether they had iMessage or Hangouts installed), and could have used hangouts/skype for video chatting.
Work Emails, well, yeah, that sucks, My employer (over 75000 employees worldwide) doesn't have an Android app to access the secure network. When some employees (on a quarterly call with a few thousand employees) asked a senior VP "Why no android app", he responded, and I quote, "because as you all know, Android is so easily hacked, and is insecure". Numbnuts!
Yes, I (along with several others) sent Emails to him explaining the facts (and he said that he'll talk to the IT team to see what was needed to get an Android app developed), but the point is that Android development has been on the backburner for many corporations for many (stupid) reasons.
Would I switch to iPhone? If they provided the ability to use launchers/widgets, *and* the ability to sideload apps, *and* the ability to install adaway type apps, *and* the ability to use tasker type app, and they had the screen size that I wanted, and had deep Google Now integration, sure, why not... It would just be another "Android" phone by that time
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See, that's the beauty and beast about android. I love that you can sideload or install an app to do what you want to do, but I don't like the fact that its not integrated better. That's the thing that made me (consider) the iPhone.
For things that I really wish Google would do, is force OEM makers to do specific things to the OS of the phone. For example, integrate hangouts as the main texting app, that way we android users can hangout with each other. The user can download their own texting app if they choose, but at least make the stock one hangouts. Because almost all my android friends have Samsung's, and I have yet to see hangouts being used by them.
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justinisloco said:
See, that's the beauty and beast about android. I love that you can sideload or install an app to do what you want to do, but I don't like the fact that its not integrated better. That's the thing that made me (consider) the iPhone.
For things that I really wish Google would do, is force OEM makers to do specific things to the OS of the phone. For example, integrate hangouts as the main texting app, that way we android users can hangout with each other. The user can download their own texting app if they choose, but at least make the stock one hangouts. Because almost all my android friends have Samsung's, and I have yet to see hangouts being used by them.
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Thing is, some people (me included) like the fact that Google doesn't (yet) force me to use a specific app for a specific purpose. Samsung/HTC and others do bundle their own apps (that can't be uninstalled), and most users call that bloat.
It is rumored that Google will bring VoIP calling capability to Hangouts in the near future (as it did for iOS last year). Once that happens, I would expect more users would install Hangouts (even if it wasn't installed by default). Whether they use it as their texting app would depend on them, but at least you would still be able to use video hangouts with your friends then.
About your first few statements - what is not integrated? From what I know about iOS, Google's integration is just as good (if not better), without taking away the ability of the user to choose a different app for a specific need. Unlike iOS, Android allows you to choose the default app for any action. In my opinion, that provides the best integration.
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Thing is, some people (me included) like the fact that Google doesn't (yet) force me to use a specific app for a specific purpose. Samsung/HTC and others do bundle their own apps (that can't be uninstalled), and most users call that bloat.
It is rumored that Google will bring VoIP calling capability to Hangouts in the near future (as it did for iOS last year). Once that happens, I would expect more users would install Hangouts (even if it wasn't installed by default). Whether they use it as their texting app would depend on them, but at least you would still be able to use video hangouts with your friends then.
About your first few statements - what is not integrated? From what I know about iOS, Google's integration is just as good (if not better), without taking away the ability of the user to choose a different app for a specific need. Unlike iOS, Android allows you to choose the default app for any action. In my opinion, that provides the best integration.
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The default app switching is the biggest part keeping me where I belong. I know I switched to am iPhone for a week and it was the worst.
This Whole thread, by the way, is not to convince me to keep my phone. I love this phone, but just was curious what would make you hardcore android fans switch.
Edit -as far as the bloat, its not bloat I'm talking about, I meant specifically the text app
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Hmm, to be honest, an iPhone with 5" screen and widgets/launchers would probably be enough for me to make the switch. Although the OS would still be very "limited" compared to Android, I don't think I would be too bothered about it. It simply just works better and smoother than Android does or will. People can post benchmarks all they want, or videos comparing app opening times which in reality don't mean that much, but the fact is, the overall experience is a lot smoother on iOS. Even Nexus 5 still lags and stutters when scrolling which is pretty amazing considering the hardware that is inside.
Hangouts comes preinstalled on any Android device that has the Play Store now (I believe... but at least the big flagships like the Galaxy S5, HTC One, Nexus 5, etc...). Your friends may not use it, but it's there :laugh: I think it's been said, but the only reason iMessage/Facetime seems more integrated is that Apple forces you to use it. If Google changed it so that all Android phones had to use Hangouts and alternatives couldn't be installed by the user (there are alternatives for the iPhone, but you need to jailbreak and use Cydia to install them), then I'm sure all of your friends would be using Hangouts. But you'd also upset a lot of Android users who like the choice.
I do think it's ridiculous that Hangouts for iPhone has voice call capability while Hangouts for Android does not.
Anyway, to get me to switch there would need to be a lot of changes. Bigger screen, better support for alternative apps (SMS, dialer, browsers that aren't just interface swaps with the same backend, launcher, etc...), a more complete interface overhaul, access to apps installed from outside the app store (without jailbreaking), NFC support, something like Tasker...
In my country where many people are switching to android, they still don't use Hangout. It all depends on the messing service that is used by all and that's WhatsApp here.
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raptir said:
Hangouts comes preinstalled on any Android device that has the Play Store now (I believe... but at least the big flagships like the Galaxy S5, HTC One, Nexus 5, etc...). Your friends may not use it, but it's there :laugh: I think it's been said, but the only reason iMessage/Facetime seems more integrated is that Apple forces you to use it. If Google changed it so that all Android phones had to use Hangouts and alternatives couldn't be installed by the user (there are alternatives for the iPhone, but you need to jailbreak and use Cydia to install them), then I'm sure all of your friends would be using Hangouts. But you'd also upset a lot of Android users who like the choice.
I do think it's ridiculous that Hangouts for iPhone has voice call capability while Hangouts for Android does not.
Anyway, to get me to switch there would need to be a lot of changes. Bigger screen, better support for alternative apps (SMS, dialer, browsers that aren't just interface swaps with the same backend, launcher, etc...), a more complete interface overhaul, access to apps installed from outside the app store (without jailbreaking), NFC support, something like Tasker...
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I think it would be nice to force that as the stock messaging app, but give users the choice to change it via the market. But that way, my not so techy friends can actually start using hangouts with integration and the techy ones can figure out how to use other messaging apps if they prefer.
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justinisloco said:
I think it would be nice to force that as the stock messaging app, but give users the choice to change it via the market. But that way, my not so techy friends can actually start using hangouts with integration and the techy ones can figure out how to use other messaging apps if they prefer.
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Well, that's how Google handles the Nexus phones, but that's far more control than they have exerted on manufacturer skinned phones. Samsung already doesn't like that they need to include all of the Google apps (apart from the play store) alongside their own, I think that enforcing that they be the default would cause an issue. Especially with Samsung's market share of Android phones.
what would make me want an iphone...hmm...maybe if it wasnt an iphone...that is all.
They'd have to become fully open source for me to even think about it and even then.. Na shock treatment is the only way. ;P Females tend to prefer iphones more than males i think. At least more females that I know use them vs males who i know and they will NOT switch.. My wife, ex now had to have one so i bought her one when we were together. Wasn't impressed with anything but the camera and now Android is just as good in that department.. Android rules!! \m/ Been with Android since the G1.. I have so much love and respect for open source and the customization of Android blows apple off the map.. We can tweak our devices 100% with root, custom roms, kernels and themes.. Aosp is just too great imo.
There are so many apps im sure you can find something that will get the job done..
A great story buy one cool guy... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wYgofunq3OE
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justinisloco said:
Don't rip my head off for this one.
I'm on vacation, and have to out my phone in airplane mode for the week. I can only do hangouts with people who either have the app, or have android, and use the app. My gf on the other hand, can iMessage all of her friends, video chat with all her friends, etc. Also, my work emails will only work on iPhone, or on android with an outdated gingerbread styled app.
My question is this -
Hypothetically, if the iPhone had a 5" screen, and allowed widgets and launchers, what would you need the iPhone to have in order for you to switch?
I don't think I would switch because I love the look of android, but I feel like I'm waiting for the OS to unify better between OEM makers, and that doesn't seem to be in the near future. I'm jut curious about everyone else's thoughts.
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The ability to obtain root access through means other than exploits that Apple patches as fast as they can. If that were possible, along with some more customization, I might consider it. And a price drop. Way too expensive.
Nothing...ever. Even if it was free. Lol
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