Hy guys,
I've been reading on that thread for few days and one question raised in my head.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790984
And that post
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8299301&postcount=18
If I buy an International (European or other version) of the Galaxy I9000 that doesn't support frequencies HSPA 850MHz from scratch, do you think it has the same hardware as the Bell Canada one ans that it's just the firmware that enable or disable those frequencies?
If so, it may be interresting to try flashing one Internal version of the I9000 with the CSC and Phone file from firmware UGJH2 and see if it enable the 850MHz HSPA frequency.
If that work, that means that International and/or European unlocked I9000 phone are exactly same hardware and that, We could buy them and use them with Bell and other providers in Canada instead of buying a Bell one.
short answer no
it has been tested and re-tested by several people already
it doesn't work
but feel free to try if you have the time and money to spare
if you want the I9000M (3g 850/1900/2100) you can get it off ebay if you don't care about the 3 button issue, but if you do care about the 3 button thing, you can ping me
Wow thanks alot AllGamer for the quick reply. Sorry if that thread is a double post because I haven't seen one talking about this specifically. I've seen alot about the 850Mhz lost after flashing firmware thow...
So if I understand it correctly... the only option we have is to buy a I9000M from Bell and do the 3 buttons fix from that thread in order to be able to unlock and upgrade...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784704
I still don't get why those big compagnies does different hardware versions of the same phone for different regions.... that must cost more money...lol
P.S. anyone know if Bell allow us to buy that phone full price (499$) without even activating it or we really need to get it activated for a month even at full price???
franckqcc said:
I still don't get why those big compagnies does different hardware versions of the same phone for different regions.... that must cost more money...lol
P.S. anyone know if Bell allow us to buy that phone full price (499$) without even activating it or we really need to get it activated for a month even at full price???
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correct in all counts
yes, it's kinda stupid they have released more than 8 different variants of the same phone, each of them with just minor changes in hardware/software
like with TV, no TV
with Front Camera, no FC
with Upload speed cut off, Full speed upload (USA AT&T)
with Flash, with no Flash
with more storage, with less storage
with keyboard, without keyboard
with these radio bands, without that radio band
with... bah just too many
I have no clue how they keep up with all the different branches of the same tree
re: Bell...
nope, they do have an activation fee when you purchase it, even when you but it off at full price, the total is roughly $650~680 including all the taxes, activation, shipping materials, shipping, packaging, all the other crazy fees the Bell and the government charges
Just by curiosity.. Do you know a version of that phone that work with 850MHz but include the flash for the camera?
That would be nice to have a flash included with it
The flash is on the CDMA Galaxy S for Verizon only. I don't think this device can be unlocked but anyways I don't think you would want a CDMA smartphone in Canada.
he can always hook it up to Telus or Bell, both runs on CDMA
but you are right CDMA kinda sucks, you can't travel to Europe or most other countries with it.
Yep and since CDMA is way slower than HSPA, that would be useless....the only time we use CDMA is in the regions where HSPA isn't working...
Thanks all for your reply
AllGamer said:
he can always hook it up to Telus or Bell, both runs on CDMA
but you are right CDMA kinda sucks, you can't travel to Europe or most other countries with it.
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Bell or Telus will not allow anyone to hook up another carriers CDMA phone. This is NOT an option.
In relation to this same question somewhat...What about a hardware transplant from a Bell Vibrant to a European i9000?
Does anyone know what radio chipset the Bell Vibrant uses and what radio chipset the European i9000 uses? I've seen two different radio chipsets for the i9000, one from Qualcomm and one from Triquint:
Qualcomm RTR8265: (Maybe the Korean i9000?)
http://translate.google.com/transla....com/News_List_View.php?nModeC=4&nSeq=1742568
Triquint TQM6M26028L: (Maybe the Singapore and European i9000?)
http://www.phonewreck.com/2010/08/19/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/
http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/galaxy-s-disassembly-28.jpg
Unless I'm reading all 3 disassembly wrong, they have conflicting info in regards to the radio being used. Maybe the radio chipset being used is dependent on the region where the i9000 is from? Can any one confirm? I plan on purchasing an international i9000 to replace my bricked i9000M and would like to see if I could transplant certain parts to see if I could get the 850 MHz via hardware. I plan to disassemble my bricked Bell Vibrant once my toolkit comes in and take some pictures so maybe it'll be of help to people in the future.
Electroz said:
Bell or Telus will not allow anyone to hook up another carriers CDMA phone. This is NOT an option.
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not sure where you got that from but i worked for Telus and we hooked up quite a bunch of USA verizon/sprint CDMA phones online.
we used to do a IMEI check first to make sure it was not blacklisted before signing them up for a plan with their phone
is there an easy way to find this out without taking apart the phone?
dawgpound6985 said:
In relation to this same question somewhat...What about a hardware transplant from a Bell Vibrant to a European i9000?
Does anyone know what radio chipset the Bell Vibrant uses and what radio chipset the European i9000 uses? I've seen two different radio chipsets for the i9000, one from Qualcomm and one from Triquint:
Qualcomm RTR8265: (Maybe the Korean i9000?)
http://translate.google.com/transla....com/News_List_View.php?nModeC=4&nSeq=1742568
Triquint TQM6M26028L: (Maybe the Singapore and European i9000?)
http://www.phonewreck.com/2010/08/19/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/
http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/galaxy-s-disassembly-28.jpg
Unless I'm reading all 3 disassembly wrong, they have conflicting info in regards to the radio being used. Maybe the radio chipset being used is dependent on the region where the i9000 is from? Can any one confirm? I plan on purchasing an international i9000 to replace my bricked i9000M and would like to see if I could transplant certain parts to see if I could get the 850 MHz via hardware. I plan to disassemble my bricked Bell Vibrant once my toolkit comes in and take some pictures so maybe it'll be of help to people in the future.
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AllGamer said:
not sure where you got that from but i worked for Telus and we hooked up quite a bunch of USA verizon/sprint CDMA phones online.
we used to do a IMEI check first to make sure it was not blacklisted before signing them up for a plan with their phone
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Thats pretty weird then. CDMA phones don't even have an IMEI. That is a gsm/hsdpa specific number.....
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you said IMEI people will understand what it is
you tell them ESN they will be like "wuuaaat number?"
cust: "my old number before DC?"
me: NO
Your number under the battery compartment or box that came in...
cust: "wuaaat? where?"
me: ohh... never mind, just give me the phone
cust: "here"
me: where's the sticker?
cust: "i peeled it, it didn't look good" (that happened once)
another time was
me: where's the sticker?, it's all smudged & worn out!
cust: "i dunno"...
needless to say both cases were denied, no IMEI/ESN can't register them
a couple of times we did get some black listed ESN from verizon/sprint, also denied on those cases
most of the time they are okay, and can easily be joined to the network, the only trouble was finding the re-programing instruction for those Odd phones as we knew by memory the models we sold, but anything weird will take some times.
we always charged extra for that.
Okay so quick update and something quite interesting. I'm disassembling my Vibrant right now and the piece where the antenna connects is labeled i9000T. More to come in a new thread.
dawgpound6985 said:
Okay so quick update and something quite interesting. I'm disassembling my Vibrant right now and the piece where the antenna connects is labeled i9000T. More to come in a new thread.
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ohhhhhhhh wow! so we got a Latin America model inside?!
AllGamer said:
ohhhhhhhh wow! so we got a Latin America model inside?!
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Seems to be one part. Check out the pictures here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8395614#post8395614
<farnsworth> Good news everybody! </farnsworth> I have the european i9000 (900/1900/2100) which I bought unlocked in New York City and have been using (with 3g/HSPA) on AT&T.
When I came home to canada, I got a bell sim card (as I have a bell plan, previously with a CDMA phone). When I started the phone, all I was getting was voice, and I was very dissapointed.
I decided to see if Rogers or Tellus would work (as somebody told me they use 1900 more than 850), and when the rogers guy tried his sim, it was the same story. THEN he figured out that for this phone, you have to manually enter the APN info for the canadian carrier. He tried it on my phone, and I started picking up EDGE.
I immediately called bell tech support for the same info, and they refered me to the website. I entered the bell APN info in the settings menu and I now have HSPA on bell in Canada on my european i9000! Spread the word!
mthiffau said:
<farnsworth> Good news everybody! </farnsworth> I have the european i9000 (900/1900/2100) which I bought unlocked in New York City and have been using (with 3g/HSPA) on AT&T.
When I came home to canada, I got a bell sim card (as I have a bell plan, previously with a CDMA phone). When I started the phone, all I was getting was voice, and I was very dissapointed.
I decided to see if Rogers or Tellus would work (as somebody told me they use 1900 more than 850), and when the rogers guy tried his sim, it was the same story. THEN he figured out that for this phone, you have to manually enter the APN info for the canadian carrier. He tried it on my phone, and I started picking up EDGE.
I immediately called bell tech support for the same info, and they refered me to the website. I entered the bell APN info in the settings menu and I now have HSPA on bell in Canada on my european i9000! Spread the word!
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Go outside of a large metropolitan area and report back. Or maybe you could even try reading this thread....
Hi, was just interested to hear other peoples experience with certain modems in certain countries. Im in Australia and am currently using jpp and was wondering for issues such as reception and data speeds is there certain modems we should use in regards to where we live?
I havnt notice much dif with modems except JPM modem hangs on me often. Currently using JP0 and it seems stable. speed wise I havn't noticed any dif as Optus is always screwed due to over selling its network. Btw you are using optus too
Yeah Virgin using Optus just heard other people saying this modem does this and that compared this modem which doesnt etc just got me thinking cause we are flashing european firmwares maybe we should be using certain one.
Installed Overcome 1.6.3 and Kernal 2.1.6 to my TMOUSA TAB. I also Unlocked via RotoHammer Hex Edit fix. I put in a Canadian Telus SIM card but the phone always gets signal and but it shows its on Roaming and wont make a phone call with the App. Do I need to reflash a different modem file that is compatible with Canadian Networks? Thanks!!
curlydingle said:
Installed Overcome 1.6.3 and Kernal 2.1.6 to my TMOUSA TAB. I also Unlocked via RotoHammer Hex Edit fix. I put in a Canadian Telus SIM card but the phone always gets signal and but it shows its on Roaming and wont make a phone call with the App. Do I need to reflash a different modem file that is compatible with Canadian Networks? Thanks!!
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follow the howto unlock phone calls guide under xda galaxy tab bible, and try flashing the (modem_bell_i9000) modem.bin provided. (works great for me under overcome 1.6.4).
And if you would like to return the favor... and if you have a 5ghz dual-band router, please read my XDA post about Galaxy Tab Wireless-N at 5ghz. I could really use some constructive feedback there.
I hate to tell you this but unless you switch to Wind, you are SOL with Telus as they use the same spectrum as Bell/ATT/Rogers etc. Wind is like TMO in the states.
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slimdizzy said:
I hate to tell you this but unless you switch to Wind, you are SOL with Telus as they use the same spectrum as Bell/ATT/Rogers etc. Wind is like TMO in the states.
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So the Tmobile versions don't support the other bands? If that is the case, I didn't know that.
I think Mobilicity.ca works on the same (AWS?) frequency as WIND also though.
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So the Tmobile versions don't support the other bands? If that is the case, I didn't know that.
I think Mobilicity.ca works on the same (AWS?) frequency as WIND also though.
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Maybe. I can't see them working on some other frequency that nobody else uses. Maybe phone their tech support and ask if a TMob phone will work? Good luck to you.
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The only way to get voice on your t-mobile tab is to find the roto modem switcher thread, and flash the roto-2g modem from there. Don't bother with the switch set up, because you won't get 3g anyway.
Hi,
I just came back up from the states for vacation and I was using my galaxy s roaming. It was working perfectly fine down there but when I came back up to Canada, my phone couldn't connect to Bell. It sees rogers and I connect to it for "SOS calling only" but it can't find the Bell networks. Any help?
Thanks
What modem are you running? Also did something happen to your APN settings?
Swyped from a galaxy far far away.
I'm using JL2 and am on MIUI. My APN settings are still there. The exact same as before.
You must be on a different modem than jl2 because it has roaming issues in the states, that's why they released KC1.
Swyped from a galaxy far far away.
Well, when i was in the states, i was on kc1 but when i came back up, i noticed that i couldn't connect to Bell. I thought that flashing to JC2 may help but it didn't.
In perkas file stash app there are 850 enabled modems and there is a kc1 modem there you could try. It Is cwm flashable also.
Swyped from a galaxy far far away.
I'm pretty sure its not the modem. I've already flashed multiple that are confirmed to work on Bell and have the 850 frequency.
I did have a problem one or two times after flashing a new rom and then our modem and it didn't work right away, but eventually it worked fine. Maybe if you give it some time it may work. Are you in a 1900 band area or 850 only?
Swyped from a galaxy far far away.
I live in a pretty big city so I would guess that I would have both frequencies. The phones been in this state for a good 24 hours now so I don't think waitings going to help. Do you think it may have something to do with the SIM?
It is possible that there is a problem with the sim. They aren't indestructible. You could try someone else's sim.
Swyped from a galaxy far far away.
Hi guys,
I bought my Samsung Galaxy S in Europe and I'm currently using Darky Rom 10.1 (Android 2.3.3).
I'm in Australia for 1 year and I can't get a service with Telstra (I bought a new sim card) when I'm "far" from big town. My friend bought a phone with telstra and he gets full bar signal when I get no service. It's almost okay when I'm in a big town like Cairns (I just visited this one for the moment).
I went to the Telstra Dealer shop to ask about the modem they used because it's a different frequency (850Mhz from what I read).
They told me they use ZTE or ZTA but I can't get to find it to download.
I tried several modem like jvk, jvh, jvo, ... but I can't get the SGS to work like I'm used to.
Can anybody help me with this ? A link with a cwm modem would be highly appreciated because I can't get internet everywhere and it's really expensive.
Thank you.
Here is a Telstra 2.2 modem DVJP9 which hopefully will help sort out your data issues. http://www.mediafire.com/?qdangyv87dtx1ai
I couldn't find a CWM zip for it, so you'll have to use Odin to get it on your Phone.
Remember as its a modem.bin, flash in the 'Phone' part in Odin.
If the hardware of your phone does not support 850MHz then changing modem firmware will not help unfortunately. In an Australian city you might be ok but coverage will still be not great as you will be running 3G on 1900MHz from memory and in the country you will be offline as all Telstra coverage efforts seem to have gone into 850MHz both in the country and city.
jim5055 said:
If the hardware of your phone does not support 850MHz then changing modem firmware will not help unfortunately. In an Australian city you might be ok but coverage will still be not great as you will be running 3G on 1900MHz from memory and in the country you will be offline as all Telstra coverage efforts seem to have gone into 850MHz both in the country and city.
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Ouch, that's what I was afraid of. I'll try the modem first and see. If that doesn't work, I'll have to buy a cheap phone.
Thanks a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934409
Check out this thread, there are hellstra owners in there, they will be better suited to giving you an answer