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I rang up trying to get a second hand handset (Sony k800i) SIM unlocked, cos i dont have a cable for it.
they said i would need to know the number of the sim that activated the phone to determine whether it had $80 of recharge or 6months use (which it has had both, but not on the original sim).
This is fine except i have no idea who was original activator. it is essentially now unfindoutable.
after explaining this to the girl (whom i assume was not in a call centre on this continent) 5 times, she repeated that i had to find it several more times, to which point i just hung up, because she was not willing to accomodate that i could not do it.
does anyone have a work around for this? (aside from spending money on a cable or on the online unlockers, i.e. get optus to come to the party?)
Cheers,
With my experience (used to be a supervisor in a call center), I handled several accounts (telecommunications, gaming console and some technical account) what they usually do is give you an unlock code if you are the original owner of the phone, but if not they will keep on asking you some information that you "really" don't know just like that girl asking you. For the reason "security purposes", they are thinking like you stole the phone or some what like that. They have the unlock code for that but they just won't give it to you. With samsung phones, it goes like this...if you got a second hand phone from someone and it is locked with..let's say verizon...and you want to use it with AT&T..first you have to call verizon to ask for their permission so you can use their phone with a different network, if you are lucky enough they'll give it to you and they'll advise you to call the manufacturer of the phone so you can have the rest of the unlock code. When you call the manufacturer of the phone, they'll ask you if verizon gave you any unlock codes and if you do have they'll give you the rest. Well, that's how it works with samsung. I am not particular with SE. Here's the thing man, if you think that their customer service is from a call center, never hang up the phone, stay on the line as long as you can, if you stay longer let's say more than an hour and keeps on insisting, that agent will give up on you, one of the reason is that in a call center they have this what they called "AHT..average handling time..etc" of course if differs defending on the account that they are handling so for example that girl is allowed to talk to you and resolved your issue in anyway (as in anyway like brush you off) within 8mins and you stayed longer than 8mins that will ruin her AHT, her score for that day, she will fail her daily AHT, weekly AHT, monthly AHT and so on and she might lose her job. So to make it short since I am explaining it too long already and since you want some other ways to unlock the phone by not paying online unlockers and buying a data cable just to unlock it..just stay on the phone longer, as long as you can, repeat everything but if she still refuses to help you ask for a supervisor/tier 2/level 2 wahtsoever ...she will say "my supervisor will tell you the same thing"..tell her to get lost and still insist for a supervisor/tier 2/level 2 wahtsoever. If you were able to talk to a supervisor then that might resolve that. But if that supervisor is as a**h**e as the agent then you're doom, no way to unlock you SE for free but to buy a data cable or have it unlock online. Whew...in the other hand I am a good supervisor and since I am a good one let me see what I can do to help you out, ok? PM me the SN, IMEI or CDA of that phone and let me see if I can still contact my old folks.
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my friend emailed me this sites, try to check this out but still you need a cable
http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=6118
http://forums.se-nse.net/index.php?showtopic=16338
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well my friend said unlock codes does not work on all phones. some phone needs to be unlock via a software some just codes. k800i needs a software and of course a cable and he said you need a K800i.mbn firware etc...
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try this..maybe...you might find the original activator of that phone...
>*<<*<*
Where < or > are directions on the joystick, and * is the bottom left hand button on the keypad.
Cheers for your indepth response. i knew that it could be done, and i told her, just like you say, she repeated the script.
i had a look in the phone system menu (<*..<*) but not sure where to see how / when it was activated?
the phones IMEI is **
Network simlock is at setting 4, this obviously means locked, but does it mean anything else? is there some sort of code level list?
Optus customer service is crap at best, **** at worst....
Some how they manage to be worse than other fine outfits like dodo
Hi
i own a htc touch diamond, which is the SPRINT VERSION, and
need to activate it with page plus for my MOM.
for what i understand both networks are CDMA so it should
work, right?
if that's the case, what's the best and cheapest way to go to activate it?
but first a little story:
i tried to go to with a multi-carrier cell phone location, but the guy tried to screw me
promissing to activate it this was the deal with the guy:
80 DOLLARS up front, 40 to activate and credit starter, and
another 40 for "transfer the ESN from an old forgotten page plus
non-smart phone" which i found very strange... so i said
NO DEAL, BYE.
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anyways, i need the phone to be PREPAID and i only want to
start with 10 dollars of credit to give it a try
if you know other prepaid CDMA service provider with GOOD rates per
minute i would like to know
please guide me
THANKS in ADVANCE !!
not going to be trivial, but may be possible... you will definitely first need the phone's MSL (lock code). And it is possible that you'll not be able to get data or MMS working. You'll have to manually program the phone... Go to www.howardforums.com and look in the PagePlus forum for more details...
It would be far easier to sell off this phone and get a Verizon phone of some sort instead, since PP is a Verizon MVNO...
It can be done, I did the same. I followed a tutorial I found somewhere, but can't remember where. Look around. Def need the MSL, that was the hardest thing for me to find.
i did the same thing years ago. i can sure that it can be done. but now my diamond is dead due to unknown reason .
anyway, try search ppcgeeks, i remember someone give me a radio prl for page plus. just run it , and the *288 can activated your phone.
sorry i didn't have the file u need.
the file u need is called Verizon Prepaid EVDO PRL 51214 Modified (01-13-09)
While a new member, I've been following the community a bit and have flashed my Captivate successfully several times.
It started acting weird earlier this week (lagging and shutting itself off) so I decided to re-flash it and re-apply SRE with all the goodies it brings.
Since my last flash, the phone works fine (calls, messaging, and Internet) except for one problem - the Android Market.
I can access the market but am unable to download anything. I've tried many different solutions, ROM's (JF2, JH2, and JH3), 3G/WiFi, internal settings, clearing the Market cache, Dalvik cache, etc., using Market Access and going outside of AT&T's allowed applications, all to no avail. It's the same whether I attempt to download after a fresh flash or after applying SRE. I've also tried Unleash the Beast.
Finally I decided to call AT&T to find out if there was a problem somewhere on their end.
Here's the weird thing:
The IMEI I have on the sticker under my battery is that of a Captivate and matches what they have on record. The representative I spoke to told me that the IMEI I have in my phone's menu is an iPhone IMEI.
With all that being said, I have two questions:
1) How did this happen?
2) How can I fix it?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
FrstdOne said:
While a new member, I've been following the community a bit and have flashed my Captivate successfully several times.
It started acting weird earlier this week (lagging and shutting itself off) so I decided to re-flash it and re-apply SRE with all the goodies it brings.
Since my last flash, the phone works fine (calls, messaging, and Internet) except for one problem - the Android Market.
I can access the market but am unable to download anything. I've tried many different solutions, ROM's (JF2, JH2, and JH3), 3G/WiFi, internal settings, clearing the Market cache, Dalvik cache, etc., using Market Access and going outside of AT&T's allowed applications, all to no avail. It's the same whether I attempt to download after a fresh flash or after applying SRE. I've also tried Unleash the Beast.
Finally I decided to call AT&T to find out if there was a problem somewhere on their end.
Here's the weird thing:
The IMEI I have on the sticker under my battery is that of a Captivate and matches what they have on record. The representative I spoke to told me that the IMEI I have in my phone's menu is an iPhone IMEI.
With all that being said, I have two questions:
1) How did this happen?
2) How can I fix it?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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What does your imei start with?
madjsp said:
What does your imei start with?
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The one in the software starts with 004999
The one on the sticker starts with 351863
Iphone imei starts with 011. That rep doesnt know what hes doingp
did you ask them to update youe imei number? would likly fix it, could have just been an accident, from what i have read about 10% of imei number are not unique so somehting could have gotten messed up server side
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Iphone imei starts with 011. That rep doesnt know what hes doingp
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also a quick google of the 0049 imei shows that there are several iphones with that imei
The rep who I've been working with is off today but she said she'd call me tomorrow. I'll ask her to update the number and hopefully she can.
Unfortunately, while I'm pretty much a noob to all this, I've found that I still know more than most of the people on the AT&T side and the rep I've been working with is the most knowledgeable of the group.
Did you go from an iphone to the samsung if so, it could be a translation issue on atts side which means the billing system never updated the imei to the switch because it errored out on the billing side happend all the time when i use to be a switch tech for att simple to fix just need to file a ticket with a certain department but can be a pain if the rep is new.
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I thought the phone read its IMEI number from its own hardware. This thread implies that something on the network is telling the phone what its IMEI Number should be.
I know there are a lot of Ebay phones with bogus stickers - the stickers have one SN/EMEI number, but the phone internally says another.
Where did you get your phone?
I've never owned an iPhone and I purchased the Captivate from a corporate store, not from an authorized reseller or ebay.
wait cant this be useful if we can change the imei to a vibrant one we can get money off of data or would most of you feel bad for doing that (one good thing about that though for 10 dollars we get unlimited data)
labbu63 said:
wait cant this be useful if we can change the imei to a vibrant one we can get money off of data or would most of you feel bad for doing that (one good thing about that though for 10 dollars we get unlimited data)
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You gotta pay to play. If you don't want to pay smartphone fees, don't get a smartphone. I'm sure we'd all like a break on price, but when it comes down to it, we can't get one, so we make do.
And unless the modmyi forum was wrong, that's illegal.
yeah i know but im just saying if someone isnt scared to go to jail
If the IMEI shows as 004999010640000, you might check out this thread. Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=777288
PS: you might want to look at this specific post in that thread.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8060884&postcount=33
BigJayDogg3 said:
You gotta pay to play. If you don't want to pay smartphone fees, don't get a smartphone. I'm sure we'd all like a break on price, but when it comes down to it, we can't get one, so we make do.
And unless the modmyi forum was wrong, that's illegal.
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actually i was just looking at the library of congress's recent ruling on the DMCA and their new excemptions and read this
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(3) Computer programs, in the form of firmware or software, that enable used wireless telephone handsets to connect to a wireless telecommunications network, when circumvention is initiated by the owner of the copy of the computer program solely in order to connect to a wireless telecommunications network and access to the network is authorized by the operator of the network.
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sounds like to me that changing the imei is legal as long as the only reason you are doing it is to connect to a network that you are already authorized to use
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actually i was just looking at the library of congress's recent ruling on the DMCA and their new excemptions and read this
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(3) Computer programs, in the form of firmware or software, that enable used wireless telephone handsets to connect to a wireless telecommunications network, when circumvention is initiated by the owner of the copy of the computer program solely in order to connect to a wireless telecommunications network and access to the network is authorized by the operator of the network.
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sounds like to me that changing the imei is legal as long as the only reason you are doing it is to connect to a network that you are already authorized to use
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Changing The imei is illegal and has nothing to do with the DMCA. changing The imei is fraud like changing a car's vin number.
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alphadog00 i was wondering that, you wouldn't happen to be able to point out to me which law that is contained in, i have heard it was illegal like a million times but havn't seen the law yet. but i have always liked reading the actual laws that make the things i want to illegal
how do you know its illegal the DMCA was changed and said it was legal so until you find something that says its illegal we will never know
labbu63 said:
how do you know its illegal the DMCA was changed and said it was legal so until you find something that says its illegal we will never know
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You are confusing unlocking with changing your IMEI. It is legal to unlock and hack, it is not legal to change the phone's network id.
xatrekak said:
alphadog00 i was wondering that, you wouldn't happen to be able to point out to me which law that is contained in, i have heard it was illegal like a million times but havn't seen the law yet. but i have always liked reading the actual laws that make the things i want to illegal
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I can't point to you an exact law, but cloning phones has been considered fraudulent for years and people have been prosecuted. In changing the IMEI number, you are in essence cloning a phone - it may not exist yet, but it could. So once a new phone is made with the new EMEI number you created, you have created fraud.
After doing some research - this is the section of federal code that is used to prosecute cell phone cloners:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00001029----000-.html
U.S. Code: TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 > § 1029
§ 1029. Fraud and related activity in connection with access *devices
You may not get arrested for changing your IMEI (not one person anyway) but at some point the carrier will probably just black list your device or your account.
Changing the IMEI or ESN basically makes your device a counterfeit access device. Some debate that if they own 3 phones they should be able to let them all share one IMEI if only one is active at a time.
Personally, I can see no valid reason to change your IMEI - swapping sim cards is easy enough.
Hey, sorry, this seems like the kind of thing that's already answered, but 30 minutes of searching this site and Google turned up nothing so... Any way, my friend wants to get an AT&T phone. My other friend has a Galaxy S on T Mobile, and he apparently is getting the dumb phone unlimited data plan with the T Mobile version too. He said he changed the IMEI by deleting a certain folder after rooting. I found some tool on here for changing Samsung IMEIs, but there's not really a clear guide. So what I want to know is:
How do I change the IMEI on the Galaxy S?
Will this work on AT&T? (ie, would my friend be able to get the 10 dollar dumb phone plan on it?)
If I found some cheap one with a black listed IMEI, would changing it make it usable on AT&T again?
Thanks,
Chabos.
If I'm not wrong you wont get any reply as changing IMEI yourself is highly illegal and XDA forum is not going to help illegal stuffs.....Find a different place to get your answer.BTW there is no offence ment to you....
Before you go digging around for ways to mess with your EFS folder, you need to understand that, unlike flashing a device (which could potentially lead to bricks as well) could render your device completely useless as it will no longer be recognized by your carrier. From this point, there is no tool to allow you to recover from a mistake done in here, so proceed with extreme caution. Have fun and happy (and safe) hacking!
This is a very sensitive system folder that contains Phone-specific information such as the IMEI (encrypted in the nv_data.bin), wireless devices MAC addresses, product code (also in the nv_data.bin), and much more. Often users trying to change product codes or trying to unlock the mobile will end up corrupting data in this location.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/backup-and-restore-your-efs-folder-on-samsung-devices/
Nuff said
isn't legal
Moderators close this thread asap.Its illegal to change your IMEI by yourself.Only the phone manufacturer has rights to do it.
well here it is i got a windows 8 phone was on verizon and want to know if capable of being on page plus system which uses verizon towers i know it wont be 4 g i have doen this with my razor 912 i know the company that does this but trying to save time here they say they use this site explicitly for this information but unable to see it here please let me know
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tecn0bot said:
well here it is i got a windows 8 phone was on verizon and want to know if capable of being on page plus system which uses verizon towers i know it wont be 4 g i have doen this with my razor 912 i know the company that does this but trying to save time here they say they use this site explicitly for this information but unable to see it here please let me know
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well here we go again I have a windows 8 phone htc6990 I wan to put it on page plus and not a sole has answered me this si getting frustrating I have contacted the company tat flashed my razr 912 and was suppose to do research on it and no answer there yet either and o contact on multiple messages via e mail and text on phone don't know where to turn please help me out
First point: use punctuation and capitalization, please! If your post is hard to read, people won't bother.
Second point: Verizon's network uses CDMA2000, which makes activating a phone somewhat trickier... but it is possible. Unless the phone was somehow locked to Verizon's network specifically (which is possible), it should be usable on any other CDMA2000 network that uses the same bands.
Third point: please do not feel entitled to an answer here. This site is not associated with any carrier or OEM, nor is it primarily aimed at general discussion or tech support. It is a developer forum, and its members are a community who choose to come here, nothing more. Your question is perfectly reasonable and you used the right sub-forum to ask it (although the forums specifically devoted to the HTC 8X line might be better?), but please understand that despite what the support person may have told you, that's not actually what this site is about.
Fourth point: if you have the phone already, why not just *try* to set it up on Page Plus? I mean, they presumably have a system for activating phones...
win 8 page plus
GoodDayToDie said:
First point: use punctuation and capitalization, please! If your post is hard to read, people won't bother.
Second point: Verizon's network uses CDMA2000, which makes activating a phone somewhat trickier... but it is possible. Unless the phone was somehow locked to Verizon's network specifically (which is possible), it should be usable on any other CDMA2000 network that uses the same bands.
Third point: please do not feel entitled to an answer here. This site is not associated with any carrier or OEM, nor is it primarily aimed at general discussion or tech support. It is a developer forum, and its members are a community who choose to come here, nothing more. Your question is perfectly reasonable and you used the right sub-forum to ask it (although the forums specifically devoted to the HTC 8X line might be better?), but please understand that despite what the support person may have told you, that's not actually what this site is about.
Fourth point: if you have the phone already, why not just *try* to set it up on Page Plus? I mean, they presumably have a system for activating phones...
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I have checked with pageplus already and they don't know if I can activate it on their system as of yet say it has to manually programmed and offer no assistance in this area nor to any of the cell phone shops that are listed as having that capability look at me like what are you nuts they don't know about any flashing or programming for page plus other than selling phones if I know how to manually do this I would as I have flashed phones myself but finding the software or aka flash fiel for this phone is the biggest pain I have encountered any ideas where I need to go what I need to do
I'm also very curious to learn if there are steps that can be taken to activate a 928 on Page Plus. I've also spoken with them and been told the same message: the phone will need to be manually programmed to work on their network. I've attempted to inspect the phone's settings using DFS, but I'm not even able to get DFS to recognize the USB port that the phone is connected to (I've never used DFS before, so this could simply be a matter of user error).