I've been looking throughout the forums and Google and haven't found anything definitive about a browser that will enable me to watch streaming video to my HD7. I'm pretty sure adobe will eventually come with a update so IE can support it but is there currently an app browser out that supports flash? Skyfire pansied out from what I hear and doesn't support any WinMo and uZard is only for 6.x. Am I stuck with YouTube app for now?
I think no one yet. I've already searched and we should wait adobe give us flash support. i think i was better with my WinMo6.1 device and uZard Web
uZard was at most ok for now, but I would have alot of issues with it accessing sites like Facebook and being the servers from my understanding, are located in Korea. So me located in Maine, my data speed suffered greatly. I couldn't stand the bug when I would close uZard without switching back to regular mode from landscape mode. Right now I've been using YouTube App and just downloading the videos and just watching them on the player, but sometime I hate to wait. Someone needs to stick a firework in Adobe's ass. They would be making so much money with flash support for WP7!!
I don't think it's all necessarily Adobe's fault. IE on WP7 doesn't support plug-iins yet. So maybe when Mango drops, people's prayers will be answered
I do think flash will never come to windows phone, because it is a security risk! And closed OS must have a lot of security.
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with the iphone if you go on a webpage that has an embeded you tube video then it launches the you tube app and plays. yet opera on the diamomd simply doesnt even show the embed video controls. why?k any way to get it to work?
Because Flash Lite 3.0 (required to run Flash video of the type that Youtube and various others use) is not actually installed in the Diamond.. We only have Flash Lite 2.0 for Windows Mobile so far. Flash Lite 3.0 was released on Symbian OS some time ago, and I know for a fact that Microsoft bought the rights (license) to use the software on WinMo but as to the specifics of that agreement, who knows.
We can only hope and wait, maybe someone else can provide more info.
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Because Flash Lite 3.0 (required to run Flash video of the type that Youtube and various others use) is not actually installed in the Diamond.. We only have Flash Lite 2.0 for Windows Mobile so far. Flash Lite 3.0 was released on Symbian OS some time ago, and I know for a fact that Microsoft bought the rights (license) to use the software on WinMo but as to the specifics of that agreement, who knows.
We can only hope and wait, maybe someone else can provide more info.
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One step forward - two steps back.
Its really stupid to not have flash enabled browser.
You cant browse half of the internet.
Kind of piss me off to buy a device so expensive and wont handle this simple task.
Thats why i was always against damn flash websites.
But it seems i dont have choice but use the now.
I have downloaded an Adobe Flash Lite program/applicatrion from this site. If I install it on my phone will it allow me to view websites with flash videos on them?
Some people have reported that Flash 7 for PPC works - others have said not.
Flash Lite 3 AKU will be brought out by Microsoft later this year apparently, alongside a new version of IE. It will most likely work with Opera 9.5
Opera 9.5 is fully compatible with Flash Lite 3 but it is up to the manufacturer whether they include it on their product or not. So really we should be looking to chastise HTC.
On roms which have opera build 1660 (like duttys 1.1), I installed flash 7 for ppc, and it did kind of work, albeit too slow - bbc's iplayer really did play, but at 1 frame per second, which is a valiant effort, heres hoping that the bbc develop a proper version for wm.
I've got duttys latest version, but that didnt have opera installed by default. Installing build 1660 and flash v7 doesn't work, as soon as a webpage with embedded youtube starts to render, the sip pops up and then opera just closes.
Not sure why opera can't just render a box/frame if it comes across a youtube embedded link, and then just call the youtube player if present when the link is clicked - surely it can't be that hard?
What about playing redtube.com vids??
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What about playing redtube.com vids??
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That's the entire point of this topic, but the other point being in that it's not too appearent, which you just broke. Now some can't really browse this topic from work or home (wife/girlfriend) anymore because you blew it!
hmmmm... all these questions you've ALL asked have been answered by my YouTube Bible in the Wiki (!)... see the advantages of reading my articles and Bibles?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The Multiplatform YouTube Bible
Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has come across a VOD app for our nifty WM Touch Pro devices, such as Hulu, Veoh, or Joost. It'd be awesome! I watch CNN live a lot on my device and the crisp clear quality/feedback I receive only enriches my experience I'm experiencing.
For hulu I use skyfire. For everything else I use vtap. just go to vtap.com using PIE and download the app. I really enjoy it.
yea vTap is pretty easy and simple to use... the version I have is limited to YouTube and the search results seem skewed. Does it offer more choices now?
Hulu would be cool. Skyfire is amazing but just seems clunky (not responsive enough). I always have problems getting the zoom to fit right. Although I would think it would be worth while for a lengthy show... but something like viewing youtube is a nightmare because of all the zooming required.
Pocket Internet Explorer 6, which is available in several newer roms... also supports Flash, out of the box... without any additional Flash Lite installs or anything. I haven't tried Hulu... but youtube works.
Since PIE6 isn't server based... it is a little bit faster to responding. I use PIE6 more now then any other browser.
If you really want to be bleeding edge... PIE8 is in the WM6.5 builds... which takes PIE6 to new heights and offers much better zooming capabilities.
Anyone test Hulu or other equivalent in the newer PIE versions?
I noticed that Hulu's Flash Player requirements are 9.0xxxx, whereas the Flash Player that is in JACHero is 9.1xxxx. Has anyone had any luck with any Hulu videos?
Whatever your feelings on Flash, the fact remains that having Hulu.com working on Android would be a significant attribute for many people - even if you personally think of it as silly.
For me, G1 + Hero ROM + Hulu = Bliss!
Hopefully, the Flash Player will be updated again with another leaked Hero firmware.
I haven't been able to play hulu either. I just loads and does nothing else. When the hero rom was leaked some one said they were watching family guy on hulu.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/27/ps3-owners-get-boxeed-hulu-this-video-is-not-available-on-yo/
In the comments people were saying it no longer worked with the winmo skyfire browser either, so perhaps this has something to do with it? Although i would expect you see the error message instead of just nothing...
It would seem Hulu is blocking everything but desktop computers... they've locked out Boxee, XBMC, PlayStation 3, Windows Mobile, and are adding blocks everyday. Vewy vewy sad
Hmmmm....I wonder is there a way to mod the browser to change the user agent data it sends out to sites to say it was firefox etc? There has got to be a way. Or is there a proxy that can do this?
And, is there a way to increase the amount of space for the cache on the sdcard.
Can the flash player play streaming radio stations?
Wasnt the flash on JAC rom replaced by fatal1ty's?
I wonder if that was the reason why hulu doesn't work anymore.
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Wasnt the flash on JAC rom replaced by fatal1ty's?
I wonder if that was the reason why hulu doesn't work anymore.
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hulu never worked on JAC's version, the guy who had it working posted in the fatal1ty thread. i'm pretty sure he did anyway.
Me personaly I have tried... it gave me one error where it said I didnt have the cache space I went and cleared the cash and then it just loads and loads and loads... It wants to work but Im thinking it needs a tad bit better flash player...
ps double tapping on anything flash will set it to full screen... I think its sick! Hope they do update it... peace!
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Hmmmm....I wonder is there a way to mod the browser to change the user agent data it sends out to sites to say it was firefox etc? There has got to be a way. Or is there a proxy that can do this?
And, is there a way to increase the amount of space for the cache on the sdcard.
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Well, for the user agent,you can use steel,but flash won't work unless there is a version based off of the HTC browser. Is there a source code for steel?
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Can the flash player play streaming radio stations?
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I havent tried radio stations yet, however I frequent hiphopDX.com often for new single releases and they play great in the flash browser
I am thinking that there will probably be an upgrade to HTC Flash before Hero's release. Think of their embarassment in the face of an almost working Hulu. They need the sales, so let's hope they tweak the player a bit to work right. If YouTube works fine, I see no reason for Hulu not too.
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I am thinking that there will probably be an upgrade to HTC Flash before Hero's release. Think of their embarassment in the face of an almost working Hulu. They need the sales, so let's hope they tweak the player a bit to work right. If YouTube works fine, I see no reason for Hulu not too.
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The flash that comes with Hero is not the reason we can't watch Hulu on our phones. It is Hulu that is at fault. They do an HTTP headers check and see what operating system/platform/browser version we're visiting Hulu from and if it's not from a desktop pc then it won't play. They do this on purpose for legal reasons. Hulu has already blocked skyfire on windows mobile (the only flash capable windows mobile browser) and they've block anonymous proxies so using a proxy hack is out of the question.
in comment to fatal1ty/jac browser/flash they were the same ones, taken from the ruu/wwe hero rom release. there was nothing different.
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The flash that comes with Hero is not the reason we can't watch Hulu on our phones. It is Hulu that is at fault. They do an HTTP headers check and see what operating system/platform/browser version we're visiting Hulu from and if it's not from a desktop pc then it won't play. They do this on purpose for legal reasons. Hulu has already blocked skyfire on windows mobile (the only flash capable windows mobile browser) and they've block anonymous proxies so using a proxy hack is out of the question.
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Well if that was the case then a simple About:debug in the browser then a change in the UA string from android to desktop would fix the problem......although this is not the case we need a better flash player UA string is a simple problem the fix.
When i go to hulu, it says error loading, check your browser and try again.. or something to that affect. Then when I refresh, it says loading FOREVER.
I think the site has put the brakes on us.
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Well if that was the case then a simple About:debug in the browser then a change in the UA string from android to desktop would fix the problem......although this is not the case we need a better flash player UA string is a simple problem the fix.
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I was trying to make it as simplified as possible. In actuality a developer has countless information about what device is visiting their page thru FLASH. Please read up Flash and private information it sends and what is capable of being requested by a dev at Hulu's side.
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/privacy.html
They can find the pixel dimensions of our screen and determine we're on a mobile device. They can use the user agent string, DPI, screen resolution, and determine we're on a mobile device. There is absolutely nothing EASY we could do to trick Hulu into not knowing we're on a mobile device. So once again I will reiterate that our version of FLASH, or copy of FLASH is NOT the problem. Hulu is walking the line between legal video distribution and copyright infringement so they will do whatever it takes to keep whatever devices they want from not visiting their site. Our only hope interim would be a site that'd convert flv to perhaps html5 video tags which our browsers support.
Is the Hero flash player even capable of playing FLV? It may not support the entire Flash 9/10 specification.
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I was trying to make it as simplified as possible. In actuality a developer has countless information about what device is visiting their page thru FLASH. Please read up Flash and private information it sends and what is capable of being requested by a dev at Hulu's side.
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/privacy.html
They can find the pixel dimensions of our screen and determine we're on a mobile device. They can use the user agent string, DPI, screen resolution, and determine we're on a mobile device. There is absolutely nothing EASY we could do to trick Hulu into not knowing we're on a mobile device. So once again I will reiterate that our version of FLASH, or copy of FLASH is NOT the problem. Hulu is walking the line between legal video distribution and copyright infringement so they will do whatever it takes to keep whatever devices they want from not visiting their site. Our only hope interim would be a site that'd convert flv to perhaps html5 video tags which our browsers support.
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I still don't see why a browser couldn't send false answers to these requests. I visit iPhone-only sites using the Steel browser; it might be more involved to do the same for flash conent, but possible, no? Or else, download the flash file first and then open it in Htc Flash Player?
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I just did some research, and Hulu is entirely blocking the flash player from loading for WinMo users, whereas from Hero, it is loading, just not playing video. The rumor is that Hulu is releasing a WinMo app soon, hence their desire to stop their site from being accessed otherwise. Whereas, their is no such app purported to be in the works for Android - so I believe that your theory is incorrect.
Furthering my case is the fact that the HTC Flash Player is also not working on a few other video sites that only require Flash 9. I still believe that the player just needs a little more work.
Question,
so is there any, i downladed opera from market place but it doesn't work..
INternet explorer doesn't open half of the sites i try to open....videos don't run other then youtube on the most of streaming videos sites
Internet Explorer 9 (the desktop version) with html 5 will come with Mango update soon, that sould help with those issues, dont understand why your not using either the HTC Youtube app or the Youtube's own for your flash video needs.
Its adobe that are not currently releasing Flash for WP7, its not Microsoft or Internet Explorers fault...
oh wow
so its for sure then that my hd7 will internet explorer 9 desktop version in the next update
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Internet Explorer 9 (the desktop version) with html 5 will come with Mango update soon, that sould help with those issues, dont understand why your not using either the HTC Youtube app or the Youtube's own for your flash video needs.
Its adobe that are not currently releasing Flash for WP7, its not Microsoft or Internet Explorers fault...
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Soon? I don't know about that.
I like surf cube its a nice browser but it costs money and in mango everyone will probably switch to ie9 for hardware accelerated html5 and hopefully flash 10.1/2
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I'm pretty sure Opera hasn't made a browser for WP7... So that opera links app isn't a browser. Another thing... Opera hasn't made a browser because, if I'm not mistaken, Microsoft doesn't allow other browsers on WP7, only browser shells, so the rendering engine is the same as IE Mobile, but the shells or "browser apps" in the marketplace just present it to you with a different UI. Mango, although not "soon" (an objectionable point of view) will be bringing that killer IE9 to WP7. At this point all we would "need" is flash and we'd have the best mobile browser. I honestly don't need flash on a mobile browser, ads piss me off and YouTube is viewable via app. What else is flash good at? games? Please just play on a real console or PC when your at home, and when your on the go, WP7 Xbox Live games are really cool... So in my point of view once IE9 comes out, with or without flash, its gonna kick ass.
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Internet Explorer 9 (the desktop version) with html 5 will come with Mango update soon, that sould help with those issues, dont understand why your not using either the HTC Youtube app or the Youtube's own for your flash video needs.
Its adobe that are not currently releasing Flash for WP7, its not Microsoft or Internet Explorers fault...
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I thought another factor was that the current IE doesnt support plugins....
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I thought another factor was that the current IE doesnt support plugins....
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That is also true and from the Mango unveiling yesterday they also stated that IE9 Mobile will not support plugins either.
I've been using Metro Browser since almost day one. Does a pretty nice job overall.
I know android is droping it, but come on. Just about every video playing web site use's it and loads more do to. I know about HTML 5, but next to no one use's that crap yet.
That and I would like to know if USB tethering can work on it like android.
Thanks to all
Don't expect to see Flash Player on a WP8 device as Adobe have stopped developing Flash for mobiles a while ago now. It's also about time for websites to drop this aged format and move with the times. HTML5 is the future, like it or not.
Ray.
Flash is among the worst things that ever happened to the internet. The adobe player is clunky, hangs a lot, eats a ton of resources, makes navigation a lot harder for lower end computers/devices.
Flash should be phased out of existance, HTML5 is much better in pretty much every respect.
And to answer question 2 is yes you can tether wp8, you can already tether windows phone 7. Just go to settings - internet sharing. Not sure if its same by usb but that gives you wifi and you can plug in via usb to save battery.
I would like flash to be dead as the next guy, BUT just about every video playing web site is flash and HTML 5 won't be done intill like 2022 or some crap like that. I don't want to wait 2,3,5 or 10 years for HTML 5 Ok. If there is 0 flash on WP8, I will stick to my S3 intill they fix that crap called HTML 5.
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I would like flash to be dead as the next guy, BUT just about every video playing web site is flash and HTML 5 won't be done intill like 2022 or some crap like that. I don't want to wait 2,3,5 or 10 years for HTML 5 Ok. If there is 0 flash on WP8, I will stick to my S3 intill they fix that crap called HTML 5.
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Wow, calm down. Number one, HTML5 isn't crap. It's far better than flash. Flash is crap. Just because none of your porn sites use it yet doesn't mean it's bad.
Number two, almost always, flash player and html5 are just handles for a video stream. It should be fairly easy to develop an app that [more thoroughly] detects and captures the stream and plays it back in the system video player, bypassing flash entirely. In fact that's what WP7 already does with sites like youtube.
Sites that don't work with this method are the ones using some form of DRM to prevent you from stealing their videos. This is a stupid thing to do and I suggest you direct your anger at the sites that have the deplorable practice of using DRM at the expense of their visitors: they are the real problem.
Given that it's not up to those sites in many cases if they use DRM protection on the content or not and given that HTML5 DRM support is also not about to happen anytime soon we can look forward to a Mobile Web that is not compatible with most Video Sites.
The current state of HTML5 support is pretty much the same tired old story we had in the days of HTML4 browser wars, with people needing to quite often use conditional CSS statements for different browsers. I guess they will have figured out how to interpret that standard some years after they start working on HTML6 - until then: prepare to be disapointed.