Newbie: Why to root/change the ROM - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I'm new with the Nexus One, (on the way), but want to know what are the advantages of change the ROM?
Thanks,
ATARI

Rooting and switching ROMs can bring many things some ROMs have darktremor so you can put all the apps on the SD card (although you can install it on allot of ROMs that don't have it built in). ROMs can change the entire ui so you like it a bit better, they can make your phone faster, some pcan permit you to listen to real fm radio and a few other things depending on the ROM.

Thanks dude, and which ROM would I install? I know that will be YOUR suggestion, but for sure will better than mine ...
ATARI

Well as a first ROM I always suggest cyanogen mod because it's generally the most stable and has plenty of little tweaks that are fun to have like trackball wake, quiet hours and battery percentage.
But in the end it comes down to personal preference so the best thing you can do is to try a few out and pick the one you like best.

I'd also look at some of the near-stock ROMs available. Very stable, and just having root can lead to some pretty cool things.

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[Q] Trying to identify the right ROM for my needs

I am a n00b humbly trying my best to read as much as I can to be able to flash my first ROM. There are some great stickies which tell me how to flash and allow me to skip the impossible task of reading the thousands of pages on the subject. So far I've rooted and installed ROM Manager and CWM Recovery, and thanks to some consolidated stickies posted by this great community, anticipate being able to flash my first ROM.
It seems impossible, however, to read enough about the different ROMs to make an intelligent choice of which one to flash. Nor can I find a sticky on the subject. I am not looking for others to put any other ROMs down, I just want to hear if anyone can give a positive recommendation for a ROM that you think is best for what I need (in order of importance):
Extremely stable on AT&T i897 (I am running stock JH7 right now). For example, I remember reading for Phoenix that there's a complicated process required to get the 850 MHz radio to work. That is not cool for my needs. I need both of AT&T's 850 and 1900 bands to work stably and without additional hacking.
Very large user base and very active maintenance of the ROM so that I know that the major bugs have been worked out (probably the same as criterion 1 above)
Great battery life (need not be the absolute best)
Better GPS than stock (I understand that doesn't take much)
Faster performance than stock (does not have to be very/blazing fast, and this is less important to me than battery life)
Good wireless tethering (I hear the "Wireless Tether" app is less than ideal because it is not visible to most phones)
Preferably would like to be able to upgrade to a newer version of the same ROM (if I choose the right actively-maintained ROM in the first place, I won't be looking to switch ROMs in the future anyway) in place, without having to use ODIN or reinstall any applications or reconfigure any settings (like my Dolphin bookmarks) every time I upgrade. I'm not sure if this is never possible, or perhaps is always possible with Titanium Backup.
I could not care less about themes, wallpapers, boot animations or anything related to look and feel. I'm by far a function over form kind of guy. Unless of course the theme, such as a dark theme, contributes significantly to battery life savings.
Thank you so much in advance for any recommendations you can provide!
Jason
try the rom in my signature.... Version 1.0
you wont be disappointed
well, let me start of by saying, congratulations on posting in the correct area! you can catch quite a bit of $h.t for post in the wrong area! as far as the best ROM and well maintained, me, personally, I'm running Firefly 1.5 battery life is amazing. it comes with Mobile AP for tethering (which is extremely reliable) gps is awesome! HUGE user base, and the DEV's are understanding and will answer any questions you have! number 1 rule of flasing custom roms... BACK UP ALL INFO, I usually copy all files from internal SD and external SD to my desktop! as far as reinstalling your apps, TiBu is an awesome app, it saves a copy of the APK and the data you have with it, but it is time consuming to do a batch restore, but WELL worth it!
Pirateghost said:
try the rom in my signature.... Version 1.0
you wont be disappointed
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Yeah...I agree try Andromeda 1.0. If you are not a theme guy, then basically all the other ROMs are based on the exact same base with the exact same MODs. The only thing that really differs is a few tweaks here and there and the theme. Andromeda is build on the Armani Captivate build, and many people are finding it more stable. There is a 1.0 unthemed and a 2.0 themed. In addition, you can try out Cognition or Serendipity. Both are very stable
I'd look at DesignGears Cognition ROM. It's based off of SGH-i896 2.2 release in canada.
When I used it, I never had any problems with it, there are tons of additional features than stock, battery life is amazing, and it's just a much better ROM than the traditional i897 stock ROM.
Get the one in my sign.
LOL, see everyone has their own preference! TRY THEM ALL! become a flash addict like the rest of us!!
Your requirements look a lot like mine. I'm sure there are many great ROMs - depending on what someone is looking for. I'm using DG's Cognition and have been very pleased! I find it to be tremendously stable, though obviously much better (and faster) than stock. Battery life is awesome. I generally end the day with 40-50% left after what I'd consider to be moderate use.
Everyone will have their own opinion on the roms they use. Also remember that the same rom with the same set up will not always run the same. Each device is different so. Sense you require such tight guidelines I would stay stock, and read each thread till you find one that you think is stable enough for your uses. There is never a promise that after flashing a rom that an issue will not pop up that only effects you and your device (seen that happen lol) Also if there is a major update to the rom you chose you may have to do a back up and restore of the apps you installed and set things up again as sometimes you just have to revert to stock (yes I know some say they never have, but then I have never had an issue other then the ones I have caused my self). Your best bet is sense you have such tight restrictions on what the rom needs to ba able to do is learn to make one your self so you will know it meets your rules.
We dont do best rom threads.

[Q] what is better MIUI -OR- Simply Honey?

(since my last thread has been deleted, I will ask again
EDIT: AND Cyanogen Mod 7 ROM DOES IT HAS BETTER CAPABILITIES??
I wanna know which rom has better capabilities simply honey or miui
(Capabilities=
which rom is faster(miui or SH) or they have +- the same speed?
which rom is stabler? or they are the same..
which rom has more and better features or they have the same?
this things..)
thanks for helping
NOTE- I have already read both SH's and MIUI's threads
NOTE- if you have nothing helpul to say to my question and you just wanna say negetive comments- do NOT NOT NOT answer!! its not the place for you
simple honey
its perfect
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
i would go to simply honey it's simpler and really good. im not on simply honey but looking at the specs of the rom it seems really good. however front camera doesnt work as it says on the ROM and you need to reflash another kernel!
another thing is they have took out apps that came in with SGS from the stock ROM some of it i find very useful. i think the speed of both ROM is quite the same ^_^.
thanks !! waiting for more people---and which rom offers more features? SH or miui?
(and I have SH 3.2 dont wanna update it to3.5 because there are problems with 3.5)
There are no problems at all with 3.5....you're getting crazy man....you're paranoic!
Try and judge!!!
Sent from my SGS with Simply 3.5 Revolution ROM
simone201--i've already tried..
there might be problems!! now I have simply honey 3.2 so I dont want to upgrade due to all the problems in 3.3 . (and as I said- 3.5might include some problems too)
p.s- why am I getting crazy ? lol? it seems you are..
waiting for more people and help please..
please help me guys.. need more comments
FFS.....
Do your parents still cut the crust off your sandwiches for you.
Just flash the rom and find out for yourself. If you don't like it... Move on to the next.
WOW.. what a noob 10 years old... next time use your parents in order to understand what I've written before posting a new comment!! (sorry for you..)
need help please!!
darixtorento said:
WOW.. what a noob 10 years old... next time use your parents in order to understand what I've written before posting a new comment!! (sorry for you..)
need help please!!
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Please, stop bumping this thread and making new ones!
This is terrible, you cant compare those 2 roms.
And you said you've tested them both, so why not use that one that's better?
if its hard to understand, the word "them" means to simply honey 3.2 and 3.5 !!!
of course I can compare ONLY about the CAPABILITIES
(about how the room feels/looks/ beutiful or not-- all this things of course, I will decide by myself and im NOT asking for that)
NOTE- if you have nothing helpul to say to my question and you just wanna say negetive comments- do NOT NOT NOT answer!! its not the place for you
people please help me.. !
Dude, both are awesome. But you can not compare the two ROMs! Simply Honey is 2.3.3 based and MIUI is 2.3.4 based!
The difference in features are very minor, maybe a little here and there. But basically both are equally good ROMs. Try it out for yourself and see which one you like!
I'm currently running MIUI MCGv3 which is fantastic but it is not quite as complete as the stock custom roms like Juwe's or Simply Honey, two of the biggest let downs being the lack of an FM Radio and choppy MKV playback. But in saying that it is stunning visually and has a lot of cool unique features. I haven't used Simply Honey only Juwe's so this could be a little biased. All in all you'll have to try them out yourself, different rom's for different people and different needs.
vijaykanth--- thanks god that's what I want to know -- "The difference in features are very minor" omg thanks finally someone understands!! well I hope your right..
Shrapnel2--- thanks you very much!
still need more people and comments
**and what about the speed? the speed is preety much the same in both roms or one of them is way more faster?
(and look guys, all about how the rom looks and feels of course I will decide by myself.. im looking for the rom who has better features, and fast rom. so thats what im asking if the features, speed, stable and all this stuff are the same +- in both roms or not)
darixtorento said:
**and what about the speed? the speed is preety much the same in both roms or one of them is way more faster?
(and look guys, all about how the rom looks and feels of course I will decide by myself.. im looking for the rom who has better features, and fast rom. so thats what im asking if the features, speed, stable and all this stuff are the same +- in both roms or not)
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The main reason I moved to MIUI from Juwe's is that I was getting bored of the same old interface even with changing round png's in the framework and modifying bits and pieces- everything still looked bland to me. Speedwise I think that if you compared the two(Juwe's or Simply Honey on ext4) you would find them to be fairly close, I think lists tend to load faster on MIUI but it has been a while. Stability is fairly good but not 100% of the time, eg before settings Force closed on me, no biggie though as I had apps fc on Samsung GB roms too. Another thing to note is battery isn't the best on MIUI, you'll easily get a day under average use but don't expect three day marathons like some Samsung roms do. So good luck on picking!
each rom is better if the person likes it .I use miui but before that i used simply honey and it was good but i like miui better .It has lots of new features
I installed Simply Honey 3.5 the day it was released, I was previously using Darky's Rom v10 and I was very happy with the change. SH is visually beautiful, I installed Dark Core kernal after installing it to fix the bluetooth issues with CF-Root.
The front camera is still displayed sideways but thats no concern to me since I barely use it anyway. Love the new lockscreens, the market is a bit odd to look at but it doesn't bug me too much (if it does there's plenty of themes out there). After flashing the SGS2 email apk I was very pleased with my phone. It's been a lot more snappier than Darky's and haven't noticed any lag at all..
I'd take Simone's advice and install SH 3.5, you wont be dissapointed =)
Just try both for a full day - you can revert to your previous one anytime with a nandroid backup.
as far as I've understood -after restoring applications, the andorid market and applanet might not recognize them as 'installed applications'. then, I will not be able to update my restored applications
and thanks everyone!!! waiting for more comments..

[Q] [ROM] Different kinds

Hi,
I Have searched this forum and saw that there are plenty of rom's made by different people. There are too many to choose from, i wanted to be suggested some nice stable rom's..other than the ones made by CyanogenMod.
Thanks.
Well you're right there are definitely a lot of ROMs especially for the nexus one cyanogen is definitely the most popular but another one that I like is miui you can also check out ROMs made by micromod for example desire port super hybrid but the best way to chose would be to just read around and find a good one you like.
masantula said:
Hi,
I Have searched this forum and saw that there are plenty of rom's made by different people. There are too many to choose from, i wanted to be suggested some nice stable rom's..other than the ones made by CyanogenMod.
Thanks.
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The beauty of of having a rooted phone is trying out all the ROMs. With Amon or Clockwork, it's easy to backup your phone and then switch to a different ROM and see how you like it. If the new one doesn't suit your needs, you can restore back to the previous one and then start looking into trying out another ROM.
Here are my quick reviews on all the ROM's I've tried out so far.
Cyanogen: Most stable of any ROM I've ever tested, even the nightlies are stable. Not as visually appealing as others, but lots's of under the hood tweaking. You can always make it look pretty with other apps and add-ons.
Any of the Sense ROMs: Nice looking, some cool widgets that give you access to things like Facebook, twitter, SMS/MMS, email and scroll able contacts list right on the main screen. These ROMs are large though, they will eat up a lot of storage memory just being installed, and that's before you've installed any of your own apps. None have been as stable as Cyanogen for me yet though.
Any MIUI: If you've ever used an iOS device and noticed how smooth the screens scroll and transition from one to the other, MIUI come close to that smoothness, but so far for me, even less stable than Sense. Lot's of customization options available though.
For me, after having tested out all the ROM's that I have, I always end up going back to Cyanogen. Sure it's not as visually appealing as Sense or MIUI, but it's stability and frequency of updates (if you use the nightlies) more than makes up for that, IMHO. One thing about the Android platform that is great, is than you can always add more visual flare to a boring interface using market app and apps that you'll find here on XDA. My best advice though is test them all out yourself, not everyone likes the same things, and you have to test them for yourself to see what works for you.
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The beauty of of having a rooted phone is trying out all the ROMs. With Amon or Clockwork, it's easy to backup your phone and then switch to a different ROM and see how you like it. If the new one doesn't suit your needs, you can restore back to the previous one and then start looking into trying out another ROM.
Here are my quick reviews on all the ROM's I've tried out so far.
Cyanogen: Most stable of any ROM I've ever tested, even the nightlies are stable. Not as visually appealing as others, but lots's of under the hood tweaking. You can always make it look pretty with other apps and add-ons.
Any of the Sense ROMs: Nice looking, some cool widgets that give you access to things like Facebook, twitter, SMS/MMS, email and scroll able contacts list right on the main screen. These ROMs are large though, they will eat up a lot of storage memory just being installed, and that's before you've installed any of your own apps. None have been as stable as Cyanogen for me yet though.
Any MIUI: If you've ever used an iOS device and noticed how smooth the screens scroll and transition from one to the other, MIUI come close to that smoothness, but so far for me, even less stable than Sense. Lot's of customization options available though.
For me, after having tested out all the ROM's that I have, I always end up going back to Cyanogen. Sure it's not as visually appealing as Sense or MIUI, but it's stability and frequency of updates (if you use the nightlies) more than makes up for that, IMHO. One thing about the Android platform that is great, is than you can always add more visual flare to a boring interface using market app and apps that you'll find here on XDA. My best advice though is test them all out yourself, not everyone likes the same things, and you have to test them for yourself to see what works for you.
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Thanks you so much for the great advice, i now have the confidence to try other roms and see what best suites me.
Thanks for all the input from everybody else

CM vs GPe - What's the difference?

Hey guys,
since i'm currently a flashaholic and dont want to stick with sense rom's (i just dont like them, can't say why). I'm trying around a bit, mostly with GPe rom's.
But whats the real difference between GPe and CM based rom's?
- Which rom/version is more stable?
- Which rom/version got the better perfomance/battery life?
I know that CM based roms are having more features and looking nice (at least for some peoples).
But i want a overall good performance, stability and moderate batterylife.
Thanks in advice
kewkie said:
Hey guys,
since i'm currently a flashaholic and dont want to stick with sense rom's (i just dont like them, can't say why). I'm trying around a bit, mostly with GPe rom's.
But whats the real difference between GPe and CM based rom's?
- Which rom/version is more stable?
- Which rom/version got the better perfomance/battery life?
I know that CM based roms are having more features and looking nice (at least for some peoples).
But i want a overall good performance, stability and moderate batterylife.
Thanks in advice
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You've to try the roms for choose which is better.
Howeve the GE have some features like beats audio and some thing from sense, and the update are from htc with the latest release of android.
The CM rom have some features like the editing of status bar and so on, and are built from developers
Well, i dont hear that much music, so beats-audio is useless, not at all, but a bit.
I'm tired of testing around
Just thought you guys can share your experience with some of your used roms
kewkie said:
Well, i dont hear that much music, so beats-audio is useless, not at all, but a bit.
I'm tired of testing around
Just thought you guys can share your experience with some of your used roms
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The problem is that mod don't like thread as: which rom is better for you?
This rom have a better battery then this?
And questions like this
Yeah i know, but it actually isnt a thread like this
I just wanna hear some experience
Google play edition roms are built on HTC's framework, or they were when it released. AOSP roms are actually built from AOSP framework using the libs and drivers and device trees that have been custom built for the one.
So the foundation of the Google Play edition, the part the user never sees, is a lot closer to stock sense from HTC minus the interface and launcher, while CM and other AOSP roms are built from AOSP style source code (CM from their source, others from their own custom source code some of which is truly custom and some of which is modified from CM source)
There's a lot of advantages to running AOSP source code based romms if you're going for an AOSP rom, but theres also a lot of users that can't use adb or fastboot and don't want to learn how and don't care to read into a rom thread, and the google play edition stuff is nice for people who want a phone with a stock google launcher, that doesn't have the sense interface heft, and just want things to work with an out of the box type experience. You know the type, they don't do a clean install for six months and wonder why the headlights in their car blink and settings force closes when they press the volume rocker.
There are certain apps that will work with the GPE and others that will only work with AOSP source, so on and so fourth. Half the people are better suited for GPE rom's and stockish foundations and then the other chunk of the people only buy their phone so they wipe it till its raw getting HTC stuff off and get custom AOSP source based roms on instead. It all depends on the user and what's better fitted for their experience.
In your case if you're not running sense roms at all and you like to follow development from what I've seen because I've seen you on here a good bit, I'd get into some real AOSP for a bit and see how you like it. The good thing about AOSP is that it's infinitely customizable and any user that wants too could be theming in a week and compiling/merging source in a month and cooking roms for their personal use. Most people way less than that. That doesn't mean that the devs publishing roms don't have a lot of time in them, it's just much easier to compile and work with the source than the HTC source is and the senseish framework.
Thanks @CharliesTheMan Thats a pretty good answer
Well i liked CM/AOSP rom's on my other phones and never used stock-ish ones.
Well, mainly i use my phone for phoning around (no sh*t! lol), social networking, taking photos and derping around a bit.
I never used the sense-features (blink feed, zoe, beats-audio etc. - i like the gallery, but honestly.. i like quickpic much more, i like it minimalism), neither like the look of sense.
I'm just a bit scared of using an AOSP rom, i dont really now why.. maybe scared of phone-signal-breaks, quality breaks or something like this.
But to be honest, i have to test it by myself i know, like the performance, stability and battery - its stuff i have to test and figure out by myself, because everyone is using the phone not in the same way and everyone got other recommendation from a rom and i got the point you wanted to say with your post

OZOP MM vs Twisted Sixx MM. What are the differences?

I'm not asking for "_____ is better"....more like "______ is better if you _____, and ____ is better if you ______" so I've been running stock (eventually rooted) since the S6 came out, and I've constantly looked at these two ROMs and wondered what the actual differences are. I'm hoping there can be some responses that can fairly compare the two by people that know Android Development better than I (not difficult). E.g. " ______ is better if you want your ROM to do a lot of stuff but can be slow, ______ is better if you want a lightweight ROM without much customization" or similar. I'm assuming both are going to be better than stock for someone like me...
Thanks!
The answer to this is very simple..........
Flash one. Run it for a few days.
Do a full wipe...and flash the other.
Run it for a few days.
Then YOU know what YOU want.....
Is there anything I should look out for to try on each? It seems like there is a lot of development crossover (which is awesome) between you both, so I'm kinda curious why there are two different ROMs. I feel like there must be a different design philosophy behind each (e.g. Customization vs Speed) since you don't seem to be "competitors".
As for flashing both, the main reason I'm asking is that I assume I'll miss 90% of what makes them different, and aside from being able to track battery life, I don't think I'll have time to figure out what's different.
JamesMDenton said:
Is there anything I should look out for to try on each? It seems like there is a lot of development crossover (which is awesome) between you both, so I'm kinda curious why there are two different ROMs. I feel like there must be a different design philosophy behind each (e.g. Customization vs Speed) since you don't seem to be "competitors".
As for flashing both, the main reason I'm asking is that I assume I'll miss 90% of what makes them different, and aside from being able to track battery life, I don't think I'll have time to figure out what's different.
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When you flash a rom some people want a lot of customized mods...some want basic...
Again...you have to decide what you like and want. That's why folks flash different ones till they find one that fits their needs...
Both roms have my kernel. So there is no need to worry about battery life

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