Hi all. I need to know something about basebands, so what does i change when i change baseband ? Will it improve performance ? I´m on baseband 218, should i change it ?
Baseband basically is a driver for your phone's radio.. upgrading it may improve radio signal, overall battery usage etc. It's like a device driver on your windows pc. It usually (but not necessarily) comes with RIL (radio interface layer) which is a software for your android that communicates with the driver. I personally recommend you to upgrade your baseband because yours is quite old and has been 4-5 update releases since that. You still need to do some research on which baseband release is the best overall performer.. lastest release doesnt mean its good..
Be known that flashing your baseband may brick your phone or make your radio unusable.. so do it at your own risk.
I'll look on it, but my phone still works great without any big problems so i dont have big reason ^_^.
Newb question here
What's the difference between the normal baseband and the RIL baseband?
Is the radio interface layer only used for the radio?
Lets say i update the baseband, do i necessarily need to update the RIL too?
Thanks in advance, i'm such a newb
FreeZr said:
Newb question here
What's the difference between the normal baseband and the RIL baseband?
Is the radio interface layer only used for the radio?
Lets say i update the baseband, do i necessarily need to update the RIL too?
Thanks in advance, i'm such a newb
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I also have that question! I got 0405 and I want to update the BB to 0622 or something, but I don't know if RIL is also needed for stock ROM.
Thanks.
As I said, RIL is the software that communicates with the baseband and the baseband update itself is like a firmware flash.. its not part of android system and will not be backed up if you are to make a nandroid backup. It is always a good idea if you were to flash a new baseband and to also update the RIL that the baseband update comes with because the new RIL will be optimised (or so to speak) for the new baseband update.
We really need a guide or at least categorized links to informations like ones found here
What is what and what can or should be done first.
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Hello guys.
When i am in speaker mode, the other end can here me.
But the sound is bad. They tell me it sounds like i have an bad connection.
The sound from my phone is coming and going all the time. When i put it back to
normal mode, no problems at all.
I had this problem on stock rom, and the same problem is in modaco custom rom vanilla FR17.
Some one have simular problem. Anything to do?
Regards Kali
maybe your baseband is the culprit? If i'm not wrong, baseband is the one that's responsible to anything radio transmission. Just update the latest baseband and try again.
fifi139 said:
maybe your baseband is the culprit? If i'm not wrong, baseband is the one that's responsible to anything radio transmission. Just update the latest baseband and try again.
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My baseband is: 1035.21_20110405
kalinkamaen said:
My baseband is: 1035.21_20110405
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What is the latest baseband?
Okay I got a question about Basebands, I have the UK version of the Milestone But I live in the states, In Iowa. Is there a different baseband I should be using? Cause I've never seen a baseband in any of the lists I've found for north America or anything like that.
Argentina-Personal.zip
Brazil.zip
Canada.zip
French.zip
Germany.zip
Isreal-Celcomm.zip
Italy.zip
Singapore.zip
Telus.zip
Thai.zip
Venezuela-Movilnet.zip
That's about all I've seen for basebands. If someone could clear this up for what the baseband actually does and what I SHOULD have that'd be great thanks. You can see my current Baseband in my signature.
I guess baseband is more like, what fits you best.
If i'm wrong please correct me, but if you'r getting good reception its all good.
I also am in Iowa-Sioux City, and have found that the Singapore basebands are the only ones that work here, tried them all after I flashed a rom that changed my baseband. I believe that the baseband sets thew acctual frequencys that your phone uses,there are many in each of the bands that are avaible.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
too bad for me
i think i lost my baseband?
it shows me a "no service" my milestone cant detect my simcard's network
..... help please...
hey, where could i found this Venezuela-Movilnet.zip baseband? i really want this to use my 3g network on my xt720
There are two things about baseband: the baseband software and baseband configuration.
Baseband software (I don't know much about this, sorry...) may be in your system rom somewhere and you flash it with a zip file. In Eclair you'll see software and confugiration version in "About" page, but since 2.2(?) you'll only be able to see software version. I don't think this differs much for each people. You can find the latest(?) here:
code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod4milestone/downloads/detail?name=update-bpsw-MSG39UPEU_A1.19_0.90-I4.zip
(sorry, I couldn't post outside links...)
Baseband configuration (located in /system/etc/motorola/bp_nvm_default/), according to my understanding, is to interpret GSM signal to something your phone can read. This is more like what fits you best. For example, with a baseband config from stock 2.1 rom my phone works well in the basement, but with another, it may show "no carrier".
Hello. I searched around the xda forums for some stuff regarding basebands and RILs and found many open threads with only short or no answers at all. I found a thread with baseband 313 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500443 ) but all the links are dead. Also I cannot find any proper guide or explanation of tghis topic.
I have flashed my phone to Owain's CM9 build now and while I'm at it, I wanted to finally get my baseband and RIL right. I installed GetRIL and it said my baseband doesn't match my RIL, so I trusted the app's recommendation and installed the RIL 405. Now my phone has
baseband 1035.21_20110405
RIL 0405 (V10c, Spain)
Is that allright? Any better combination regarding signal strength or battery life?
I cannot understand the naming scheme of basebands and RILs. I often read things like "flash V20q baseband"... Huh? Does that refer to RIL or baseband? Cause my baseband does not include anything like V20q. Are these people actually talking about RIL?
So confused.
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I cannot understand the naming scheme of basebands and RILs. I often read things like "flash V20q baseband"... Huh? Does that refer to RIL or baseband? Cause my baseband does not include anything like V20q. Are these people actually talking about RIL?
So confused.
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Well, no, they are in fact talking about the basebands.
Every official ROM from LG comes with a baseband which internally carries the ROM version-information. However, that information is not visible on the phone's about page. There you will only see the major and minor version, like "1035.21_20110725". In theory, any baseband with the same version-information should behave identically. In practice it's a little different. You can read the real information (stock-based ROM only) by dialling "1809#*990#", tap "Version info" and look at "Factory Version". That's the real baseband-version, and also identifies which official ROM-release it came from.
Thank you TrymHansen, it seems you have some knowledge about this stuff so may I ask a few more questions?
Dialling "1809#*990#" does not work since I am not on a stock ROM. So what baseband do I have? V10c like my RIL?
My current baseband and RIL seem pretty old to me, are they outdated? Can you please provide a link to a more current version? I really searched but I do not understand the results. What is the baseband and RIL everyone uses? 725? V20q? What do these numbers even mean?
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Thank you TrymHansen, it seems you have some knowledge about this stuff so may I ask a few more questions?
Dialling "1809#*990#" does not work since I am not on a stock ROM. So what baseband do I have? V10c like my RIL?
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I cannot determine that fully, but the alternatives are 10d, 10c, and 10b. All of those came with an 0405 baseband.
My current baseband and RIL seem pretty old to me, are they outdated?
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They are old, yes. That's not very important however, the question is if they work satisfactorily for you. If yes, there's no need to change.
Can you please provide a link to a more current version? I really searched but I do not understand the results. What is the baseband and RIL everyone uses? 725? V20q? What do these numbers even mean?
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20q is the last ROM-version officially released for many countries (some have gotten 20r). The 20q baseband is the baseband that came with it.
Many of us use a baseband from the Korean SU660-model, because some of us struggle with noisy "other end" calls. The SU660 baseband solves that specific problem.
In short, if your phone works and you don't have any problems you think you can relate to the baseband, let it be.
If you still want to flash a new one, here is 20R, here is 20q.
Thank you so much, you cleared up a lot of confusion! Also thank you for the links.
Now one last question. Which baseband + RIL do you use? I understand that these may not work for me for whatever reason, I just want to know what the pros use.
I use the 20111120 baseband from the SU660, which came with the ROM 20j for that model.
Forgot to answer the last post question of what the numbers mean.
The 1035.21 is presumably an internal version information for LG, the rest is simply the date the baseband was first released. (For stock ROMs this hasn't changed since 0725. As I said, every baseband which has the informatin 1035.21_0725 should in theory be identical, in practice there turned out to be small differences relating to Fast Dormancy and other stuff very few know a lot about.)
Thank you. Did you flash that with "SmartFlashTool"?
Yes, that's the only way to flash a baseband separately.
I will use my phone with baseband 405 for a while and keep an eye on the battery life. If it happens to be miserable I will flash the 1120 baseband and RIL.
What I understood from your answers is that LG releases new stock ROMs which internally have names like V10c or V20q. The basebands that come with the new ROMs adopt these numbers. Although multiple stock ROMs contain the same baseband like 1035.21...725, they behave different depending with which ROM they came. The RIL also adopts the name like V20q from the ROM but is always the same. This is how I will explain others who have the same problems as me.
Almost, but not quite. The ril also differs from ROM to ROM-version. It is however, impossible for the RIL-programs to determine if you have a 20q or 20r baseband, the programs can only look at the regular version information (you know, xxx_0725), and recommend a RIL based on that. The theory is/was that it's best that they match. I don't fully agree, I think it's best to use the RIL the ROM was designed for. For stock ROMs that's the RIL that came with the ROM, for CMx it is either RIL 0218 or a korean RIL/baseband combo.
I'm helping a friend with his o2x, it came with froyo and I flashed the temasek cm7 kang on it which is based on 218 ril. The baseband is 405. Is it ok? I don't find an exact anwser...
Hi,
I'm using Paranoid Android 4.5 Alpha 2 and I wonder how to update modem baseband to latest version without losing my actual configuration and ROM.
Is it possible?
If so, can you tell me how and what do I need.
Thanks by advance
zeduck said:
Hi,
I'm using Paranoid Android 4.5 Alpha 2 and I wonder how to update modem baseband to latest version without losing my actual configuration and ROM.
Is it possible?
If so, can you tell me how and what do I need.
Thanks by advance
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why do you want to flash baseband?
Because I have issues with phone calls.
So I would like to take advantage of the latest baseband that would maybe fix those.
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Because I have issues with phone calls.
So I would like to take advantage of the latest baseband that would maybe fix those.
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it might be an operator issue/rom bug.
dont fiddle with the baseband
It's not an operator problem.
So I suppose the problem is from my side (phone).
I used to have a Nexus 4 and ROM and baseband are 2 different things that you can flash independently.
Are you sure it's not the same with Xperia Z?
I already saw some topics with titles like Baseband Generic US something. But I did not find any Generic FR at the latest version.
zeduck said:
It's not an operator problem.
So I suppose the problem is from my side (phone).
I used to have a Nexus 4 and ROM and baseband are 2 different things that you can flash independently.
Are you sure it's not the same with Xperia Z?
I already saw some topics with titles like Baseband Generic US something. But I did not find any Generic FR at the latest version.
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You can download the french firmware and just flash the baseband from flashtool
Edit: Why dont you try EU firmware
I found out one topic for generic FR latest firmware and I used your trick flashing only the baseband.
Thanks!
Now I will see with the time if it's making my phone work better.
zeduck said:
I found out one topic for generic FR latest firmware and I used your trick flashing only the baseband.
Thanks!
Now I will see with the time if it's making my phone work better.
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There has been a fuzz lately about the new Baseband the LG has to offer us. Some people argue that by upgrading their baseband to 20C, the annoying problem with the RIL gets finally fixed, while others say that it's the same.
I am currently on CM11 M10, and my question is as follows:
Since I have RIL problems with my device and want to test out the new Baseband to see if it actually makes a difference, how can I (safely) do it?
From what I found out, 20C is only out for Italy and Germany. I live in Greece and I don't know if flashing a different country's Baseband would hurt my device. If someone would clarify that for me, that'd be great!
Also, the safest way to do it (as far as I know), is by flashing the kdz of 20C, and then re-flashing the ROM I was on previously (on my case CM11). Is that actually the way to do it? Are there any incompatibilities with 20C and CM11 M10?
Thank you in advance!
Some might find this questing a bit obvious, but since I've seen a lot of people complaining about RIL problems, while they haven't tried out 20C, I guess this will help them! :laugh:
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There has been a fuzz lately about the new Baseband the LG has to offer us. Some people argue that by upgrading their baseband to 20C, the annoying problem with the RIL gets finally fixed, while others say that it's the same.
I am currently on CM11 M10, and my question is as follows:
Since I have RIL problems with my device and want to test out the new Baseband to see if it actually makes a difference, how can I (safely) do it?
From what I found out, 20C is only out for Italy and Germany. I live in Greece and I don't know if flashing a different country's Baseband would hurt my device. If someone would clarify that for me, that'd be great!
Also, the safest way to do it (as far as I know), is by flashing the kdz of 20C, and then re-flashing the ROM I was on previously (on my case CM11). Is that actually the way to do it? Are there any incompatibilities with 20C and CM11 M10?
Thank you in advance!
Some might find this questing a bit obvious, but since I've seen a lot of people complaining about RIL problems, while they haven't tried out 20C, I guess this will help them! :laugh:
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OK, first thing is that I don't know if it fixes the issues, I haven't had it before (I'm not using pin protection) so I just can't say if it's fixed.
Anyway there are no compatilility issues since Greece is in European Union and Germany too. (I think there are some certificates that prooves frequecy compatibility for EU so I think that must be same for all countries in EU - like me in Czech Republic, next to Germany)
CM runs same as on my stock baseband 20B but you can easily flash your old baseband back if you encounter any issues
I hope I helped you a bit, try and report yourself.
also you can backup your current data and rom in recovery and flash 20C + recovery (it will be wiped). Then you can restore your backup. Bootloader remains unlocked.
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OK, first thing is that I don't know if it fixes the issues, I haven't had it before (I'm not using pin protection) so I just can't say if it's fixed.
Anyway there are no compatilility issues since Greece is in European Union and Germany too. (I think there are some certificates that prooves frequecy compatibility for EU so I think that must be same for all countries in EU - like me in Czech Republic, next to Germany)
CM runs same as on my stock baseband 20B but you can easily flash your old baseband back if you encounter any issues
I hope I helped you a bit, try and report yourself.
also you can backup your current data and rom in recovery and flash 20C + recovery (it will be wiped). Then you can restore your backup. Bootloader remains unlocked.
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Thank you for your response. So if I got this right, flashing a ROM (like CM) most of the times does not change my Baseband. My baseband remains the same from whichever I had from the KDZ, unless I flash a ROM that changes my Baseband (CM is not one of those). Is this correct?
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Thank you for your response. So if I got this right, flashing a ROM (like CM) most of the times does not change my Baseband. My baseband remains the same from whichever I had from the KDZ, unless I flash a ROM that changes my Baseband (CM is not one of those). Is this correct?
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nope baseband is not related to rom, it's related to kdz (firmware from lg) you flash
SuperLamic said:
nope baseband is not related to rom, it's related to kdz (firmware from lg) you flash
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I get it now. Thank you very much for your help! I'll test out 20C and I'll report back!
Just to let you guys know, I have updated my phone to V20C (Germany) and I cannot really tell the difference...