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So I finally am getting a Nexus sometime this week. ^_^ I am so so so so so so so so SO excited. I had a couple question of course I am a BIG XDA head so I read a lot of stuff. But I was wondering from experience..
1: What is the BEST rom out? I am looking for
- Stability
- Good Battery life
- Little to no bugs.
(I imagine Froyo still being buggy and stuff?, idk give me more info on this I would like a FROYO rom.)
2: I bought the handset from a someone online, so do you think I can still get warranty if I call google?
3: What do you guys like best about the Nexus? I had a G1, MT3G, and now soon a Nexus One. :] I am so excited to hear what you guys think about it, and I am hoping the battery is better then the G1/MT3G? Of course I know with multitasking/ and rooting the kernal drains battery and such but whats your experience?
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G1-evolve said:
So I finally am getting a Nexus sometime this week. ^_^ I am so so so so so so so so SO excited. I had a couple question of course I am a BIG XDA head so I read a lot of stuff. But I was wondering from experience..
1: What is the BEST rom out? I am looking for
- Stability
- Good Battery life
- Little to no bugs.
(I imagine Froyo still being buggy and stuff?, idk give me more info on this I would like a FROYO rom.)
2: I bought the handset from a someone online, so do you think I can still get warranty if I call google?
3: What do you guys like best about the Nexus? I had a G1, MT3G, and now soon a Nexus One. :] I am so excited to hear what you guys think about it, and I am hoping the battery is better then the G1/MT3G? Of course I know with multitasking/ and rooting the kernal drains battery and such but whats your experience?
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1. most roms are already stable. just search or while youre reading around look at sigs to see what people have flashed.
2. the warantee is connected with the original buyer and when you call they ask for the google checkout account that bought it. But Ive read a few people getting lucky and got replacements.
3. SPEED. insane speed compared to other phones/OSes. With root you can do anything you want and apple isnt around to lock down porn apps and flash. IMO battery life is mostly to do with usage. some people claim insane battery life and call themselves heavy users but I surely dont get close to what they get :\ but it will definitely last you through a day once you stop playing with it too much.
Nice, anyone else with inputs on there experience? I think I will go with the latest Cyanogen ROM.
Welcome to XDA and the android family, however if you replace the ROM, it will void any warranty you might have.
well once you do have root you can test all 3 roms in about an hour. all you need to do is run nandroid and have titantium/mybackup pro. it will move your apps and keep their data. you might not get all the system data moved because the roms are a little different but switching roms doesnt take too much effort
i would try the desire rom for lolz, cm to see the hype, and maybe another like enom to see what others are doing.
Im not new to XDA or android I know hot to root and all that just to clear up.. lol. I hate SENSE so that is out of the way, I know what Cyanogen can do.. I just wish benbuchacher could have a N1 so he can make his kernal.. Er... I just will have CM though.
Hey,
I recently moved from a HTC android phone to the Galaxy S.
I've been digging through all the custom ROMs and I have found Juwe's and GingerReal but I'm having a hard time deciding what one to pick.
Battery Life is important to me.
Speed is important to me.
Music is important to me. (although everything has Voodoo fix it seems)
I also would love BLN to be supported (I think both do that). Drives me mad not having a notification light.
They both seem to work really well and I just sort of wanted some imput on what one to pick from someone who has used both.
What one, in your opinion, is the "better" ROM for me, based on speed and battery life? (and maybe other things I am overlooking that you think are important)
Thanks,
Chuck
Why not go with Darkys? He's got one of the best roms out there with everything you've mentioned as a requirement.
While normally I would recommend cyanogen, they haven't fixed a lot of the battery drain issues that the other roms like Darky's has already.
Oh maybe Ill look at Darkys too. When I was looking at it I didn't know if it had better battery life too.
What advantages does Darkys have over these ROMS?
One of the biggest things is it has a large user and developer base than the other GB roms... quicker support and fixes that way.
It has most of the features of the other two and it has it's own kernel. This allows for more control for speed, battery and feature optimizations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091
Thanks dude! Ill be loading that one.
Definetly Juwe.One of the best!
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malcho said:
Definetly Juwe.One of the best!
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++1 tried them all, no better than juwe. but if you are looking for large community - doc's romkitchen is the way, of course but those "large" communities are not that supportive, you need to look for answer on your questions in thousands of posts. However romkitchen is the best for novice - you will be able to see what files you can keep what files are save to delete, insanity is also good in that, very tiny rom with a good speed and supportive forum. well, try them all and see what you like. I heard that darky is good and i had it for a while but the dev himself is using different phone, so, think further.
Just moved from Ultibread to GingerReal myself last night. Piling on all my old Apps is a pretty good stress test and it held up well. Still flying this afternoon. Battery life seems improved too given I have been proding it all day and its still going. Took the punt over Juwe and not disappointed thus far
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Rykoro said:
Hey,
I recently moved from a HTC android phone to the Galaxy S.
I've been digging through all the custom ROMs and I have found Juwe's and GingerReal but I'm having a hard time deciding what one to pick.
Battery Life is important to me.
Speed is important to me.
Music is important to me. (although everything has Voodoo fix it seems)
I also would love BLN to be supported (I think both do that). Drives me mad not having a notification light.
They both seem to work really well and I just sort of wanted some imput on what one to pick from someone who has used both.
What one, in your opinion, is the "better" ROM for me, based on speed and battery life? (and maybe other things I am overlooking that you think are important)
Thanks,
Chuck
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I have been using juwe's 4.3.1 and darky's 10.1 both on JVH. I personally thinks that in-terms of speed (no lags) juwe's doing great, much better than darky's. you can feel the smoothness in juwe's rom but with darky's rom, sometimes you will get slight lagging especially media scanning + background sync running at the same time.
Well, I am running darky's rom anyway.. hehe.. coz darky's 10.1 has nice icons, but bit disapointed compared to darky's 10 final (no gtalk 1.3).
But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
Splux said:
But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
You should easily get 24 + hours if all you do is text mainly. Just remember to turn data off. It will help make your battery last longer.
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sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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Well, my current phone dies pretty quickly when texting a lot. Today it went from 60% down to 5%, and I woke for 11hours ago and have been texting ppl since then.
And I'm buying a new phone since my 4 touch-buttons on this one is getting really weird, they only work sometimes and yesterday they all died so I was stuck in a conversation and had to reboot to get out of it.
And sending texts and stuff is what I mainly do, of course I browse the Internet, play games and everything. During school and such I only text people, and a lot. So I pretty much needs the phone to make more than 24hours without charging it, even though I text a lot and listen to music.
@NardVa;
Won't be a problem. Already thought of that
Thanks for the replies
sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
swatsor said:
I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I've made up my mind now, I'll use the official GB ROM for a couple of days/weeks/months (basically untill I'm tired of Sense 2.1) and then flash a Sense 3.0 ROM and hopefully I can understand which one of all those RUU's that's made for Europe too when I'm bored of Sense 2.1
You don't happen to know how it is with bricking this phone? Can you always reset it to stock, or can you actually brick it for real so it's 100% unusable?
Wanted to give CM a shot again, getting the same results as the last time i tried it.
My results with pinnacle 1.2:
Everyday I leave for work at 630, and when i leave at ~3, depending on how much i use the phone, im usually at 70-80 percent.
If i dont use my phone at all, and am in an area of good service. It usually drains at about 1% per hour.
My results with CM7 nightly - stock kernel
I left for work today at 630, have barely used the phone, because i wanted to test its standby drain, and im already at 70 percent (down 30% in 5 hours) The performance is great, but i cant live with battery life like this.
Is there anything i can do to fix this? And please dont tell me to do things like turn off sync, and all that crap, because i bought the ****ing phone in order to do these things. If i wanted a phone that was just a phone, i would have gotten a blackberry or some other regular phone.
If i can do these things in pinnacle and get good battery life, im not going to give them up in cm just to get battery life that is closer to pinnacle.
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Wanted to give CM a shot again, getting the same results as the last time i tried it.
My results with pinnacle 1.2:
Everyday I leave for work at 630, and when i leave at ~3, depending on how much i use the phone, im usually at 70-80 percent.
If i dont use my phone at all, and am in an area of good service. It usually drains at about 1% per hour.
My results with CM7 nightly - stock kernel
I left for work today at 630, have barely used the phone, because i wanted to test its standby drain, and im already at 70 percent (down 30% in 5 hours) The performance is great, but i cant live with battery life like this.
Is there anything i can do to fix this? And please dont tell me to do things like turn off sync, and all that crap, because i bought the ****ing phone in order to do these things. If i wanted a phone that was just a phone, i would have gotten a blackberry or some other regular phone.
If i can do these things in pinnacle and get good battery life, im not going to give them up in cm just to get battery life that is closer to pinnacle.
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Just my opinion, but if battery life was better for you on another rom, and that's important to you, why switch?
If you're really looking at CM7, maybe you should research what modem you had on pinnacle and see if there is a CM'ed version of that one available. That alone could be part of what you're seeing. You could also try a kernel like Glitch and see if OC/UV is something that would help. Also take a look at the battery stats and see which processes are near the top - that's usually an indicator of what areas of the phone you should focus on first.
And, although I understand you're frustrated, please watch the language.
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Just my opinion, but if battery life was better for you on another rom, and that's important to you, why switch?
If you're really looking at CM7, maybe you should research what modem you had on pinnacle and see if there is a CM'ed version of that one available. That alone could be part of what you're seeing. You could also try a kernel like Glitch and see if OC/UV is something that would help. Also take a look at the battery stats and see which processes are near the top - that's usually an indicator of what areas of the phone you should focus on first.
And, although I understand you're frustrated, please watch the language.
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Because as stable and good on battery as it was, i just needed something different. And dont get me wrong, I love CM7. Its awesome besides the battery issue.
I started this thread before i flashed to try to get an idea of what i should use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347952
Someone did make that modem for CM, but from what i hear, the call quality isnt great, and the other person hears a lot of static. Weird because its awesome in Pinnacle.
Going to try glitch, but i wanted to get an idea of how the stock kernel worked before comparing it to glitch. Probably will end up doing a OC/UV, but i wanna at least see if i can get decent battery first before i do that.
Cell standby is accounting for double of what anything else is listed is, which hopefully means that if i get a better modem, then it might fix that.
And didnt mean to come off as an ass, i just hate when people suggest things like that to fix battery issues. Ive read in other threads people suggesting that, and really, why even have a smartphone if your gonna limit it that much? I dont go crazy with any widgets or any apps that would cause that, but turning off sync and things like that are just crazy.
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Because as stable and good on battery as it was, i just needed something different. And dont get me wrong, I love CM7. Its awesome besides the battery issue.
I started this thread before i flashed to try to get an idea of what i should use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347952
Someone did make that modem for CM, but from what i hear, the call quality isnt great, and the other person hears a lot of static. Weird because its awesome in Pinnacle.
Going to try glitch, but i wanted to get an idea of how the stock kernel worked before comparing it to glitch. Probably will end up doing a OC/UV, but i wanna at least see if i can get decent battery first before i do that.
Cell standby is accounting for double of what anything else is listed is, which hopefully means that if i get a better modem, then it might fix that.
And didnt mean to come off as an ass, i just hate when people suggest things like that to fix battery issues. Ive read in other threads people suggesting that, and really, why even have a smartphone if your gonna limit it that much? I dont go crazy with any widgets or any apps that would cause that, but turning off sync and things like that are just crazy.
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Sounds like a good plan. If you haven't checked it out yet, I think that Oxicottin has a list of modems and where they work somewhere in the Dev thread - that might be a place to start your search for modems.
you call quality sucks because CM7 lacks the audience chip support that is native to all I897 ROMS.
So again call quality and great battery life or CM7? You might want to try some of the newest KK2 Rom builds like Luminance or Legendary.
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CM7 threads belong here, in the CM7 Q&A thread.
When I got this phone I told myself I wasn't going to be a flashaholic. I'm no newcomer to root or custom rims but the vivid isn't that bad. Almost doesn't need to be cleaned up and OC'd. But the little things are getting to me.
1. Choppy scrolling
2. Choppy Rosie
3. Small lag with daily use
I don't want to sacrafice the good battery life i have been having.
What are your opinions and what Rom should I flash for stability and smooth scrolling.
If the majority doesn't seem to think it's worth it I'll stay stock. Thanks for all of your opinions
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I'd say it's worth it. My battery still has a good 20-30% battery by the end of the day.
I can't say much about which ROM to get, considering I've only been able to get the VjRaider to work, which I love by the way.
Those choppy things were bugging me as well, VjRaider fixed 'em up. Along with some pretty cool features.
I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
In a word, Yes
My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
If battery life is a cocern for you, rooting lets you get rid of the juice hogging bloatware. Wild Childs Illuminati series are great roms. He has Sense 3.0 and 3.5 versions, stock kernels, oc kernels and voltage controllers. I you like the stock look, thats the way to go. Better than stock battery life and moar speedz.
oooh, I forgot also, this was WELL worth it for me, because I can't stand the stupid battery meter that sense has, I like having the percentage there, and after I rooted I could edit that then
davidcampbell said:
I have rooted but kept the original rom still... I wont become a flashaholic until I can get something like cyanogenmod or miui... not enough benefit for me to be bothered flashing and resetting up all my config
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Check out the app MyBackup by Rerware. I would post a link for you, but I don't have enough posts yet.
You can backup your system configurations, all the apps you have, what all your pages look like on your home screen, pictures, almost everything. And the best part about it is that you can do it online, or onto your SD card. Makes everything so much easier .
Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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davidcampbell said:
Yeah I already use titanium backup for apps, smsbackup+ for sms and call recordd and clockwork mod for full zip backups... I dont feel the need for more heh. Plus the main deal for me is I dont care enough, Im cool to hang with stock a while... My hd2 i flashed weekly... It got out of hand
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That's what I am afraid of.
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rawb123456 said:
That's what I am afraid of.
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Don't be afraid to get your hand dirty. Most of the custom ROMs available now are already in its 4th or 5th edition, at this point they are all pretty much very very stable. Think of it this way, whatever it is you like about your phone's current form, custom ROM does EVERYTHING better. It is smoother, faster, more stable (I used to get random reboots 3 times a week on stock ROM, not to mention the stupid carrier bloatwares and CIQ) and the ability to control the power usage through cpu control.
Trust me. It's not even close....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431053
im very happy with that one very fluid after draining the battery than fully charging im getting 20 hours of real used (over 300 texts an hour of calling, internet browsing reading Engadget app, about 30 emails, and 10 pictures)
i do get random reboots about once every two days or so tho
so if you want something more stock tho
i hear this one is good
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521
here is what I did to satisfy my lust for now, keeping in mind that I get no random reboots and I don't seem to have any issues with my phone at all.
I figured there would be some level of erasing my data so I wanted to get rooting out of the way when I first got the phone, within about 20 minutes of ownership I had unlocked the bootloader (which cleared personal data), installed CWM and taken a backup of my stock rom, I then applied the root update through cwm to get root, I am still running the stock rom and I can squeeze 24 hours out of my phone which is pretty impressive vs my htc hd2, I'm in a 3G area so I havent really used my 4G radio yet.
Then I went about installing an update to get my percentage on the battery instead of the stupid battery icon with no percentage, and replaced the home screen with ADW.Launcher and the lockscreen with WidgetLocker, and I'm pretty happy with the speed and capabilities of the phone now, I'm content to wait until ICS I think as I have not really had any stability issues with this setup, everything just works, one annoyance is there is a little lag on scrolling things, something I see is mentioned as fixed in the ROMS... so far its not a big deal for me, I think maybe if ICS cm9 isn't out by march then I will look at flashing a custom rom at that point "
I do really miss the polish of the MIUI rom I had on my HD2, MIUI did some amazing ui stuff and everything was where it needed to be... even simple things like a TOGGLE FOR WIFI in the notification bar... it seems extremely weird for that to not be there lol.
You watch, someone will reply now and say that a particular rom has that feature and I'll be like Fuuuuuuu and flashing a new ROM before tomorow... I can feel the urge to flash rising hahaha
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My biggest beef with stock was CIQ. It was not acceptable to leave it on my phone, regardless of the good intentions.
What I'm seeing with the better custom roms are tremendous increases in speed and fluidity, and excellent battery life. It would be painful to put the stock rom back on.
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Completely agree, I couldn't go back to stock, the speed is far superior, I've tried a couple of Roms, I've just flashed vjraider, great Rom! And I foresee an even better future! Thanks devs,
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Personally, I find rooting to be worth it. First and foremost, it is the most in depth procedure of customization you can do to your phone to make it "yours". The speed and battery increases are pretty well worth it as well. I am currently running HoliRaider 1.5a with no problems whatsoever. Speed is amazing and I haven't had any stability issues. Considering HTC has allowed for the bootloader to be unlocked, most of the difficulty that comes with rooting has been taken out. Take a chance! Just follow instructions and read them twice before doing anything major, you'll be alright.
Root is a must for me... All the bloatware they put on my phone i had to get off xD my OCD kicks in and i need a way to delete EVERYTHING i can and still make the phone functional haha
I use WCX http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1454521 3.5 and with his newest build I have been getting no reboots at 1.5ghz and its running like a charm
Battery life is a lot better now thank goodness! and I forgot to quote whoever said this but I too cant wait for something like CM7 or CM9 (not miui I hate it) Sense itself is too much for me though its beautiful its not needed I'd rather have INCREDIBLE speed than looks So im sticking with WCX untill CM9 becomes doable or they quickly get CM7 ready to go