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I am very interested in getting balls deep into the development/"porting" of the Sense UI to CM6 or a vanilla 2.2 kernel for the Moto Droid. I realize that none of the Sense UI based official source is available at this time - but it will be. I am willing to invest time and money into this effort. I think it will be a great learning experience too. Please let me know if you're interested and what your current skillset is.
My android experience is limited to compiling kernels and medicore java development. I've been doing *nix development for ~5 years now and would like transition deeper into the android (low level) development world.
Thanks.
sounds great i am a huge fan of zusedroid and 2.2 i swich between the to all the time and seeing that someone is willing to work on it is great because i saw the zd team slowly fall apart or as it seems i think they just gave up on it or somthing or they all just got a droid x but great news i would be willing to healp but i dont know what i would have to offer o well i think u should port frome the droid incredible because it is gsm and not cdma like the diser or the nexusthiss one should be hard but easyer than what zd had to put wp with
id love to see this go into a full port. i've been using the zeusdroid for now, the drawbacks suck but i love the htc sense so i put up with the flaws.
helping financially is tough as i am a full time student, however i am upon my last year of electrical engineering, but no major programing or developing experience however if there's something i can tackle i'll be happy to try
monty_boy said:
To all:
I am very interested in getting balls deep into the development/"porting" of the Sense UI to CM6 or a vanilla 2.2 kernel for the Moto Droid. I realize that none of the Sense UI based official source is available at this time - but it will be. I am willing to invest time and money into this effort. I think it will be a great learning experience too. Please let me know if you're interested and what your current skillset is.
My android experience is limited to compiling kernels and medicore java development. I've been doing *nix development for ~5 years now and would like transition deeper into the android (low level) development world.
Thanks.
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umm i just started a thread where i have PORTED sense 2.2 to the droid it IS NOT fully working and i need more devs to help me.
Does it boot up fully or boot loop because if it fully boots I would love to try
bmx24 said:
Does it boot up fully or boot loop because if it fully boots I would love to try
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It boots up fully to sense ui but it's not fully functional yet.
i would LOVE a completely working 2.2 sense rom for the droid. i think the droid incredible would definitely be the thing to work with to make it happen. I cant help do it, but i will definitely donate a ton AFTER a completely working rom is made, and i think a lot of other people would too.
maybe you could recruit someone from the original zeusdroid team.
please please make this work, that would be amazing. good luck, and donations would come, if its completed
Just a bit of random knowledge - CM is an EXCELLENT rom, as a project of its own. It is built from source and heavily modified. With great power, comes great responsibility. It can be further modified, but is in no way a good start point for porting a pre-built rom. I am speaking from experience in saying that it is a VERY customized build. You are FAR better starting with sense, and a stock rom to splice in. I made the mistake of thinking I could use a CM build as a start when porting sense to the mytouch. 3 Migraines later, I realized what the issue was, and while parts of CM could be ported to sense, sense was not being ported to CM.
Example - Take the stock 84B Boot image and slap it on any rom and you will see that all of them function except CM. The boot and system are built together, which is efficient when it is released as a complete package, but again, not good for using as a start to any hack and slash project.
That said, the best option is to get parts from Zeusdroid Alpha, parts from Milestone MotoSense, and have a chat with barak and eugene about how they ported the original Milestone firmware to Droid, and combine this knowledge
I think it's not hard to develop a ROM like MIUI and others.
Anyone here can give me a link on how to start developing a ROM?
asrock37 said:
I think it's not hard to develop a ROM like MIUI and others.
Anyone here can give me a link on how to start developing a ROM?
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It can be easy to tailor for example stock rom for your needs, but imho developing good, stable rom is not a peace of cake. Especially, when something works for you, but it's not working for ten other people Scripting/programming skills are necessary.
Miui is one of the most heavily customized roms for android. It's been out for quite a while and is still beta with a team of Chinese developers continuously developing it. Just about everything is different from the stock Sammy or stock android roms. You'd have to make all the messaging, music, contact, dialer, launcher apps basically from scratch. Sure maybe cooking/tailoring like switching apps around, adding a theme etc but for a truly better rom you'd have do some scripting/programming as Durus said and lot's of testing. I don't know enough on the matter but just my thoughts
This is a good place to start.
yeah you're right, everything will start from the scratch.
the reason why i raised this question, for everyone who wants to learn and start developing the ROM or what kind of application will be.
i know their are developer out there who can share their knowledge to us being the starter in developing using android.
Hi guys/girls,
I would like to create a Galaxy S (I9000) ROM for a school project from AOSP.
There are a few to I would like to know before I start:
Because I can't work on it for more than 80 hours (including research), would this be do-able for a person with no real programming experience (yet)?
What version of Android do you recommend me to make? (which is the best for a beginner)
Does it cost me money? (drivers from samsungs?)
Will you be able to help me if I can't figure it out with Google/XDA?
My goal is to make it work, not to make it the fastest ROM on XDA or something professional.
Thank you for your answer.
No one?
10 charsss
Hi,
Sounds like an exiting project. I think the easiest way to get started would be to use dsixda's Android Kitchen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257297
Interesting, i'll follow this thread
I would say no to less than 80 hours, especially if you have no experience.
Download any rom from here modify bootanimation and some
Minor GUI elements as well as add some apks and submit it. Nobody's gonna know a thing (since this is a school project)
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
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I would say no to less than 80 hours, especially if you have no experience.
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Hmm okay thank you for the answer, that was my main point..
Then I'll have to figure something out for a new subject, because I can't just do what Gcuhiha sais (60-100 hours min-max and you can do that in 5 min) and Dsixda's Android Kitchen sounds great but not for this sort of project, from what I read about it and saw on video it's not really advanced and you're finished kinda soon. I do have to write a report about it on how I did it and that kind of things and ofcourse I can't say I pressed 1 and 2 and installed it..
Is making an app different? I mean is it possible to make one in ~80 hours? (for the samsung galaxy s GT I9000)
For making a simple game, i.e. Snake.
The reason why I said no is that compiling Android from aosp source is a massive project. It took some of the most experienced developers months just to get cm7 working on the i9000. The codes for the drivers are a nightmare to work out, and not something that you want to deal with in a 80 hour time scale. You might well have something working by the end, but it's going to be buggy to the point that it might not be useable.
As for building a stock ROM like someone else has suggested, now that's easy. The framework is already there, so all you are really doing is some theming, adding a few extra apps and may be tweaking some kernel values. It's not really cheating, but probably not very satisfying.
As for writing your own app, well that should definitely be doable, especially if you make use of tools like app builder. Android programming is a lot like java, so knowing that will help, but not necessary. High level programming language is very similar to normal English.
Knowledge is Power. Guard it well.
Hey guys,
since i'm currently a flashaholic and dont want to stick with sense rom's (i just dont like them, can't say why). I'm trying around a bit, mostly with GPe rom's.
But whats the real difference between GPe and CM based rom's?
- Which rom/version is more stable?
- Which rom/version got the better perfomance/battery life?
I know that CM based roms are having more features and looking nice (at least for some peoples).
But i want a overall good performance, stability and moderate batterylife.
Thanks in advice
kewkie said:
Hey guys,
since i'm currently a flashaholic and dont want to stick with sense rom's (i just dont like them, can't say why). I'm trying around a bit, mostly with GPe rom's.
But whats the real difference between GPe and CM based rom's?
- Which rom/version is more stable?
- Which rom/version got the better perfomance/battery life?
I know that CM based roms are having more features and looking nice (at least for some peoples).
But i want a overall good performance, stability and moderate batterylife.
Thanks in advice
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You've to try the roms for choose which is better.
Howeve the GE have some features like beats audio and some thing from sense, and the update are from htc with the latest release of android.
The CM rom have some features like the editing of status bar and so on, and are built from developers
Well, i dont hear that much music, so beats-audio is useless, not at all, but a bit.
I'm tired of testing around
Just thought you guys can share your experience with some of your used roms
kewkie said:
Well, i dont hear that much music, so beats-audio is useless, not at all, but a bit.
I'm tired of testing around
Just thought you guys can share your experience with some of your used roms
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The problem is that mod don't like thread as: which rom is better for you?
This rom have a better battery then this?
And questions like this
Yeah i know, but it actually isnt a thread like this
I just wanna hear some experience
Google play edition roms are built on HTC's framework, or they were when it released. AOSP roms are actually built from AOSP framework using the libs and drivers and device trees that have been custom built for the one.
So the foundation of the Google Play edition, the part the user never sees, is a lot closer to stock sense from HTC minus the interface and launcher, while CM and other AOSP roms are built from AOSP style source code (CM from their source, others from their own custom source code some of which is truly custom and some of which is modified from CM source)
There's a lot of advantages to running AOSP source code based romms if you're going for an AOSP rom, but theres also a lot of users that can't use adb or fastboot and don't want to learn how and don't care to read into a rom thread, and the google play edition stuff is nice for people who want a phone with a stock google launcher, that doesn't have the sense interface heft, and just want things to work with an out of the box type experience. You know the type, they don't do a clean install for six months and wonder why the headlights in their car blink and settings force closes when they press the volume rocker.
There are certain apps that will work with the GPE and others that will only work with AOSP source, so on and so fourth. Half the people are better suited for GPE rom's and stockish foundations and then the other chunk of the people only buy their phone so they wipe it till its raw getting HTC stuff off and get custom AOSP source based roms on instead. It all depends on the user and what's better fitted for their experience.
In your case if you're not running sense roms at all and you like to follow development from what I've seen because I've seen you on here a good bit, I'd get into some real AOSP for a bit and see how you like it. The good thing about AOSP is that it's infinitely customizable and any user that wants too could be theming in a week and compiling/merging source in a month and cooking roms for their personal use. Most people way less than that. That doesn't mean that the devs publishing roms don't have a lot of time in them, it's just much easier to compile and work with the source than the HTC source is and the senseish framework.
Thanks @CharliesTheMan Thats a pretty good answer
Well i liked CM/AOSP rom's on my other phones and never used stock-ish ones.
Well, mainly i use my phone for phoning around (no sh*t! lol), social networking, taking photos and derping around a bit.
I never used the sense-features (blink feed, zoe, beats-audio etc. - i like the gallery, but honestly.. i like quickpic much more, i like it minimalism), neither like the look of sense.
I'm just a bit scared of using an AOSP rom, i dont really now why.. maybe scared of phone-signal-breaks, quality breaks or something like this.
But to be honest, i have to test it by myself i know, like the performance, stability and battery - its stuff i have to test and figure out by myself, because everyone is using the phone not in the same way and everyone got other recommendation from a rom and i got the point you wanted to say with your post
I'm looking for functionality, little or no bugs, I am looking to stick as close to stock as possible with the option to customize if I wanted to. I know there are a ton of ROMs and I could spend ages scouring them for the one that might be right for me.
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I'm looking for functionality, little or no bugs, I am looking to stick as close to stock as possible with the option to customize if I wanted to. I know there are a ton of ROMs and I could spend ages scouring them for the one that might be right for me.
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Did you install twrp also? You will need that to flash anything... might want to back up what you currently have before flashing also. If you like the stock feel, you can always wait until xposed comes out of alpha and start your customizing with it too.... lots of good info here if your not familiar with it. As far as UI is concerned you don't necessarily have to flash a custom rom, you always try a few different launchers on for size first.... Nova is pretty popular apex is another.... I am using action 3 right now which I like...
I would suggest clean ROM for a very stock like experience and then install MCR mod pack. This is my setup and I love it.
Cleanrom and sinless. Both stockish and super stable.
Stock. If you're not going to try for yourself, then you shouldn't go sheep.
OP you should really look around the development forums, you can't expect what works for other people to work for you as well. Usually down the line, you'll have a question and you'll want to be searching for the answers, not to ask others for the answer when the answer to your question has already been answered.
Everything in life, you can't just ask for it. Similarly to your decision to purchase what car, what college you want to apply to, etc... all of that you can't just ask someone. That's something for you to determine for yourself. Except the difference here is that all ROMs and kernels are free, be adventurous and try them all out (or at least the ones you found interest into).
My recommendation to this is to look at ROMs based on the following criterias,
- Popularity... how popular is the thread? Why is it popular?
- How frequently does it get updated? Do I like to flash ROM updates daily/weekly?
- Read the last couple of pages (or skim) and see what other users have been saying about the ROM
ghostspectrum said:
I'm looking for functionality, little or no bugs, I am looking to stick as close to stock as possible with the option to customize if I wanted to. I know there are a ton of ROMs and I could spend ages scouring them for the one that might be right for me.
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Euphoria OS
Parandroid Android
LiquidSmooth
Chroma
Bliss Pop
SlimLP
Dirty Unicorns
And there will be always the buggy Cyanogenmod :silly:
I run Paranoid Android and FAUX kernel with the recommended faux settings and love it.
Everyone will have different taste nobody is the same I use euphoria its like the best ROM I ever used since custom Roms were out