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Which gTab? Carrrier thoughts please...

Getting my GF a tablet and have kinda ruled out the Ipad because we both don't like Apple and iTunes. I;m experienced with Android and thats what I want to get her. I bought the NookColor and rooted it and all that, but it's going back. It's just not a viable solution for someone not too technical and wants to just pick something up and use it. Mainly because of the lacking hard buttons and no 3g is really the deal breaker now. The gTab seems perfect because of 3g and simple to use. I thought they were all the same until I started reading and it seems as if Tmobile is a bad idea unless you want unlimited data without a contract. So let me get to the needs: minimal data on a month to month plan. I prefer to pay out front and not be under contract. So which carriers Gtab is for her? Or should I wait for something else? BTW I don't like playing the waiting game because you just end up waiting and waiting. She's perfectly fine using a device for years where as I need the latest, greatest.
Thanks in advance.

http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2010/11/17/want-to-buy-a-samsung-galaxy-tab-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

I guess any of ATT or tmobile will be good. Because if u want to resale it (after few month ) you can unlock it and sell it on nice price and also gsm is acceptable in other countries too. can be used to make calls and receive calls too(dont know about sprint and verizon cdma tabs).
I guess tmobile plans are cheaper than att.
I have tmobile but i dont have data plan because i dont need it. I bought my on local craiglist.

For light no contract 3G, I think AT&T is the cheapest easy option at $15/mo.
The AT&T GT also has the "option" of easy unlocking, then getting a Tmo prepaid SIM and using Tmo's DayPass for $1.50/day, EDGE only, but for very light, day by day, its a cheap alternative.
NB you cannot do that with a Tmo GT since Tmo has blocked its own GT's from using the prepaid DayPass.
Another fringe idea is Sprint's GT, hacked to run on Boost Mobile, $0.35/day for data, but far more complicated to do the hacking.

Do not get the Verizon tab under any circumstances.

At&t will let you have the complete tab and phone experience. And it travels overseas better.

While I have and love the AT&T Tab, I'll throw a wrench in here and say that Spacemoose is going to bat for the CDMA Tabs with HC! I'd give the edge to GSM, but not a big deal as I use mine with Wi-Fi only.

ap77 said:
Do not get the Verizon tab under any circumstances.
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please amplify... why not?
- not GSM, no ROMs? no SIMs? no int'l usage?
- no 2.3.4 update unlike Sprint?
what else?

neurocutie said:
please amplify... why not?
- not GSM, no ROMs? no SIMs? no int'l usage?
- no 2.3.4 update unlike Sprint?
what else?
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- No GB upgrade -- and knowing VZ, it will be practically never when we get it
- CDMA generally behind the GSM curve in terms of carrier upgrades
- More development on the GSM front

ap77 said:
- No GB upgrade -- and knowing VZ, it will be practically never when we get it
- CDMA generally behind the GSM curve in terms of carrier upgrades
- More development on the GSM front
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Sure GSM tab is getting more ROMs, but the only official GB upgrade in the US now is Sprint CDMA and that works on Verizon's tab.

[Q] Galaxy Tab 7 with Voice Support?

I've got at a T-Mobile Galaxy Tab which I realy like. The one thing I wish it had was voice calling support. Rather than hack it to make voice calls, I'd like to find a model that does natively. I tried searching for which models support voice, but I just keep finding how to enable voice on my T-Mobile or AT&T tab.
Can anyone tell me which models/carriers support voice calling out of the box? If there aren't any US variants, then which International variants would work on either T-Mobile or AT&T (preferrably 3G)? I'm hoping to find a used one on eBay or somewhere and sell mine.

Only European versions have GSM capabilities. You have to buy a P1000 from a European retailer, mine is from Orange carrier, but there are plenty retailers that sell GSM enabled ones here in Europe.

Wtf are you talking about. All AT&T and Tmobile tabs are GSM too. They are exactly the same as the European Tabs with the exception of the rom running on the tab (and the Tmobile one has a different radio for Tmobiles odd frequencies).
If you want voice on your tab, just flash a stock rom that hasn't been modified by any carrier. Be warned though, the carrier will usually block voice on tablets, so it is probably a fruitless venture.

I now have the GT-P1000, which I bought over eBay from a UK eBayer. However, and in hindsight, a T-Mobile stock flashed with Over Come 2.2 and GingerBread 2.3.3 would do exactly the same but with less hassle and cheaper.

Thanks for all the help guys!

You could just use Skype, much much cheaper
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Skype is cool, but GSM can be useful too.
I'm not saying I use, but anyway... I can imagine when it can be useful.

Thanks for all the replies!
deio said:
Only European versions have GSM capabilities. You have to buy a P1000 from a European retailer, mine is from Orange carrier, but there are plenty retailers that sell GSM enabled ones here in Europe.
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I want to find one on eBay, so what would a more specific model number be? Like I think mine is the SGH-T849. Aren't they all P1000's?
GldRush98 said:
Wtf are you talking about. All AT&T and Tmobile tabs are GSM too. They are exactly the same as the European Tabs with the exception of the rom running on the tab (and the Tmobile one has a different radio for Tmobiles odd frequencies).
If you want voice on your tab, just flash a stock rom that hasn't been modified by any carrier. Be warned though, the carrier will usually block voice on tablets, so it is probably a fruitless venture.
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I realize that my version is GMS, but there's no call functionality. I guess I assumed that with a European version, they wouldn't block calls on it as it's not the model they sell/block. Am I wrong in my assumption? Do T-Mobile
and AT&T block calls on all models of tablets (specifically all Galaxy Tab 7s)?
pronse said:
I now have the GT-P1000, which I bought over eBay from a UK eBayer. However, and in hindsight, a T-Mobile stock flashed with Over Come 2.2 and GingerBread 2.3.3 would do exactly the same but with less hassle and cheaper.
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Why? I guess I'm just worried about bricking my Tab and would rather use one that I can just keep updated with the Samsung releases.

If you look around, there are quite a few well written documents that explain exactly how to flash a ROM. Alterbridge and Pittbull have written one and posted it for both their Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs. If you just MUST have stock, there are also very good guides written up from Rotohammer and his stock ROMs.
There is no need to buy a whole new tab just to enable voice. Buying a European tab WILL NOT enable 3g and calls at the same time. It currently is not possible to have 3g capabilities and voice capabilities at the same time. Rotohammer has written up a script that allows you to switch between 2g+voice and 3g(without voice.) Currently, those are the options for Americans on the T-mobile network. I do not know if AT&T is still allowing 3g and voice, I had heard it's been blocked. Again, I can't say for sure.

btyork said:
If you look around, there are quite a few well written documents that explain exactly how to flash a ROM. Alterbridge and Pittbull have written one and posted it for both their Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs. If you just MUST have stock, there are also very good guides written up from Rotohammer and his stock ROMs.
There is no need to buy a whole new tab just to enable voice. Buying a European tab WILL NOT enable 3g and calls at the same time. It currently is not possible to have 3g capabilities and voice capabilities at the same time. Rotohammer has written up a script that allows you to switch between 2g+voice and 3g(without voice.) Currently, those are the options for Americans on the T-mobile network. I do not know if AT&T is still allowing 3g and voice, I had heard it's been blocked. Again, I can't say for sure.
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i have it and have never been blocked they are blocking the ones with unlimited plans! 3g or h and voice is what i have. and op its just the rom

Yahoo n skype are the answr
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Carrier GT or WIFI only GT??

Hello,
after looking into the Nook Color then the Viewsonic Gtab, I have arrived at the Galaxy Tab. I have a rooted Fascinate, so I am savvy with flashing custom Rom's, using clockwork etc, Samsung Galaxy stuff...
My question is....
There are several Sprint GT on ebay.. there are a few wifi only model's for sale.
I don't need the data from sprint..I'll just tether to my phone..
I am definitely planning on rooting and installing a custom Rom/Kernel.. BUT
I have noticed there are more custom ROM's out for the carrier branded GT's versus the Wi-Fi only..
I have read through this forum a few times over, and have read once that you can buy a carrier GT and NOT activate. It will work fine, but will it work fine if I put a custom ROM on it with it not activated and use it for wifi only?
The real question:
Buy a carrier branded GT and NOT activate vs.. WIFI only GT ? Like I said, definitely planning on installing a custom ROM.
thanks in advance!
david

There is far more development for carrier tabs. And yes it woulda work fine with a custom rom.
Sent from my "better than an iPad" tab... Running Overcome GINGERBREAD!!!

I know spacemoose1 will be working on porting over his work shortly to the GT P1010 (wifi only) as soon as he has finished gsm and cdma. The port over should not be too long either so think looking at a short lead time (hopefully). But untill then we have to wait for either Spacemoose1 to work his magic or the gods of Sammy upgrading.
I know I prefer the wifi model as have I9000 and tether and its perfect for me, have it rooted and running few tweaks so its real quick and compares very well with some of the latest out there but if you really need to install custom roms right now then this device is not for you, but if you wait a bit more then hopefully we will have something to play with.
Regards
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update and link to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1020167 Spacemoose1 work

Personally I like the option to either go through wifi or use 3G... Depends on how you want to use it, what country you're from, gsm vs. cdma, and if you want to spend a few $$ more on the carrier tab...
I tend to find the p1010 tabs are cheaper, but then so is the hardware....
ATM if you go to ebay australia, sprint tabs are being sold fairly cheaply (vs the gsm tabs we use here) and as wifi only, which they are in Oz as we no longer use any cdma networks... Saw one go for $170AUD...
Cheers...

Thanks everyone for the input!
Sounds like it's acceptable to purchase a carrier tab and not activate, custom Rom's will work even if it's not activated, and that there is not a lot of development for the wifi only version..
Here's my next set of questions:
Should I be concerned about using an aftermarket charger? See this :
http://cgi.ebay.com/SAMSUNG-GALAXY-TAB-SPRINT-WIFI-SPH-P100-16GB-MINT-/270745593659?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3f09b1e73b
Good price, but doesn't include the stock cables, box etc.. should I be looking for the stock cables? I know the Samsung Fascinate is picky about what usb cable you use for it, and would assume that would apply to the GT as well.. if I should could I buy this one and get the stock cables somewhere else?
Is there one carrier that has more development done for it, or is Sprint a safe way to go for development (being able to use a custom rom/kernel etc?)
thanks again..

Don't bother with the wifi tab (P1010) it is nothing alike, outdated and underpowered.
ComponentP1000/SCH-i800P1010CPUSamsung Hummingbird S5PC110
1GHz, 596MB ram
TI OMAP3630
1GHz, 596MB ram
GPUSGX540SGX530
Weight380g385gAGPSYesNoBluetooth3.0+EDR with A2DP2.1+EDR with A2DP

Only thing there that's compelling aside from the phone part is Bluetooth but as don't use it for phone do not need this and have keyboard doc in office so not worried..
The performance (anecdotal ) is thy compare like for like as tab doesnt run phone so it has freed up resources.
Its really if you need it foe phone then coil
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Lttlwing16 said:
Thanks everyone for the input!
Sounds like it's acceptable to purchase a carrier tab and not activate, custom Rom's will work even if it's not activated, and that there is not a lot of development for the wifi only version..
Here's my next set of questions:
Should I be concerned about using an aftermarket charger? See this :
http://cgi.ebay.com/SAMSUNG-GALAXY-TAB-SPRINT-WIFI-SPH-P100-16GB-MINT-/270745593659?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3f09b1e73b
Good price, but doesn't include the stock cables, box etc.. should I be looking for the stock cables? I know the Samsung Fascinate is picky about what usb cable you use for it, and would assume that would apply to the GT as well.. if I should could I buy this one and get the stock cables somewhere else?
Is there one carrier that has more development done for it, or is Sprint a safe way to go for development (being able to use a custom rom/kernel etc?)
thanks again..
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PS: This eBay tab above is sold as used?
As for a tab with SIM or not, I think it's a matter of personal preference. Mine is the European unlocked model GT-P1000 but I never use the SIM/provider thing since I hook it to Google Voice which does it over wireless.
I flashed it to the latest OverCome RC1 and I am sure you can do the same with others.

I've heard nothing but moderate reviews on the wifi model. I decided to go with a Verizon tab. The price was attractive at $199.99. The downside of course is that it locked me in to a two year contract with Verizon.
I decided to get the 1gb a month plan for $20. After taxes it is about $23. I like having the ability to hop on 3g when needed, but I primarily use the tab in places that have WiFi. In addition, as others have posted, I have been able to use the tab on my Captivate's unlimited data plan via WiFi tethering. With this, even in places with no WiFi, I can use my phone's connection and not burn through the Verizon plan's allowance.
The only drawback I can really cite is that there is far more in the way of custom roms available to for the GSM tabs. Verizon is CDMA (as in Sprint.) But, as others have also mentioned, there are a few custom roms already available for CDMA, and there are a few new ones coming in the next few weeks that look very promising.
I can't really speak to the European, or other models outside of the US.
Ultimately, I really love my tab and have been very very happy with its capabilities. Having tinkered with both iPad1 and 2, I have to say that I heartily endorse the Galaxy Tablet over both.
Anyway, that is my $.02

Can you use t-mobile nexus one on at&t?

Hello,
I am going to be selling my N1 on ebay and I didn't want to misadvertise. I purchased my N1 off contract and used it on t-mobile. Does my phone support AT&T? And if someone on AT&T buys my phone will they get 3G service on it?
Thanks

The T-Mobile N1 can work on AT&T but only on Edge as they use a different 3G frequency not supported by the T-mobile hardware. There is a separate AT&T compatable model, but they are harder to come by.

So it would be silly for someone on att to get my phone?
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mgorman said:
So it would be silly for someone on att to get my phone?
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It all depends on how they want to use it. If they are wanting to use it as a dev phone for apps / ROMs etc..., then 3G is not as critical. If they are wanting to use it as their daily driver, then they may want something else.
As long as you state in the description that this is not compatable with AT&T 3G, you should be covered. How the buyer uses the purchase is up to them.

majority of people would say its crazy to buy a tmobile nexus one for ATT use as there would be no 3g. so yes its almost like false advertising. sure, it would work on edge. but just be up front about it.

Ok. Thanks for the input

ATT Galaxy Note 1 (i717) on T-mobile?

Anyone done this? There seems to be some gray area on data services. I don't mind flashing a new rom to obtain 4G, which ive read one person has done.
Anyone accomplished this move?

Yes a lot of us have done this... Im running stock tmobile ics wth blaze modem.. Om my att note
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Yep, running Jedi with Blaze modem.
Chicks dig it. T-mobile on my AT&T branded note.
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Hi. As long as you have the correct modem to pull in 3g/4g you can run any rom- tmobile or att. I have the modem UVLG3modemfori717_gt-n7005amss. Works just as good as Blaze for me.
Ran Jedi and was very happy with it. Now am running Jedi-sons of android(att by ptmr3) 4.2.2

sashusmom said:
Hi. As long as you have the correct modem to pull in 3g/4g you can run any rom- tmobile or att. I have the modem UVLG3modemfori717_gt-n7005amss. Works just as good as Blaze for me.
Ran Jedi and was very happy with it. Now am running Jedi-sons of android(att by ptmr3) 4.2.2
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I woud LOVE to run an At&t JB rom. But i need wifi calling at my house since T-Mo has no towers close by. Wish someone could/would figure out how to get WiFi calling on that rom.
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mahgninnuc93 said:
I woud LOVE to run an At&t JB rom. But i need wifi calling at my house since T-Mo has no towers close by. Wish someone could/would figure out how to get WiFi calling on that rom.
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that's the main reason I stick with stock rom [mine sgh-t879], rooted, and way debloated.
fabulous device really. 2 days of batt life [i turn it off when I sleep], lean, mean, fast, beautiful.
I use wifi exclusively in home home-office and every other place I get a chance, which as everyone knows is an increasingly long list.
the only 'bug' I have at the moment is something sporadically defeating NoLED which I use for notifications, and that Noozozide [a fabulous app] doesn't like something in there... probably the google play player. haven't had time to sort that yet.

I was reading that the tmo wifi app was figured out to work on another android phone(can't remember what one)- they altered the build prop and hacked the apk. Too bad no one is interested in doing this for the ATT note There are so few ATT Notes running on tmobile. Once they are out of contract- another year or so, and they will be moving on to newer phones. Jedi4 worked for me as far as wifi calling- but I have no need at present for the wifi calling feature, but it is great when you need it!
I was looking into the new tmo uncarrier plans and thinking about getting the iphone5 to add to my android collection- but no wifi calling for it. At least not initially, and they are being coy about future plans for it. If I am gonna get a new tmobile phone it should have wifi calling. Am going to europe in the fall and it will come in handy!
I love my note- really do, but there are times I would love a smaller phone to slip into my pocket and go. The Note is huge- at times a great thing, at times a not so great thing. New Iphone will rescue my itunes and make music an easier managed thing on the computer. Doubletwist and air sync just isn't the same. Might have to get my apple hacking tools sharpened!

the sgh-t879 is just fabulous and a bit of a bargain, though the i717 is typically a tad less in pristine condition.
As far as I know samsung T-mo variants have the Wifi calling very solid but I don't know what to expect going international - you obviously need a world phone multi-band.
we have the SII, the "S 4G" and the Note - all deliver the beans well on wifi. The Blaze does also and is the better choice vs. the S 4G, as we've found out.
I understand what you mean about smaller size - you may have to go Nexus but I despise the fixed battery [the life is not great...do not let anyone fool you] and lack of removable storage. if you want to go cheap, get the LG optimus L9... its a great phone to use just out of the box debloated: wifi is excellent. the knock is there's not many hacks for it since LG made it difficult. those can be had for 250 bucks and sold for nearly the same as it gets terrific user reviews. around here [austin tx, san antonio etc] some steals come around on craigslist ... people get those with a contract upgrade for free, then sell on c'list to go buy a note or some other thing. have seen new ones for $175
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I was reading that the tmo wifi app was figured out to work on another android phone(can't remember what one)- they altered the build prop and hacked the apk. Too bad no one is interested in doing this for the ATT note There are so few ATT Notes running on tmobile. Once they are out of contract- another year or so, and they will be moving on to newer phones. Jedi4 worked for me as far as wifi calling- but I have no need at present for the wifi calling feature, but it is great when you need it!
I was looking into the new tmo uncarrier plans and thinking about getting the iphone5 to add to my android collection- but no wifi calling for it. At least not initially, and they are being coy about future plans for it. If I am gonna get a new tmobile phone it should have wifi calling. Am going to europe in the fall and it will come in handy!
I love my note- really do, but there are times I would love a smaller phone to slip into my pocket and go. The Note is huge- at times a great thing, at times a not so great thing. New Iphone will rescue my itunes and make music an easier managed thing on the computer. Doubletwist and air sync just isn't the same. Might have to get my apple hacking tools sharpened!
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I just wanted to chime in for a moment. I acquired a att note from eBay a couple of weeks ago and I am running the jedi 4 ROM and WIFI calling is great with no hiccups. It's fast and beautiful. Now mind you I am coming from a gs2 before the jellybean upgrade. In fact the second day my wife had the gs2 was when the update was pushed out. Moving on since I am rambling, i love my note it fits right in with my nexus 7. The only thing I wish was that jellybean was out officially I require WiFi calling......
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Access LTE on T-Mobile
Hi just wanted to chime in. If T-Mobile has LTE in your area, you can access it by using the stock AT&T Rom and Modem. Just root it and Debloat it. Here's some of the speeds I've been able to get. The only thing, When I'm sitting at my desk at work, I have to switch to a different modem to pick up 3G and HSPA+ (21.6 Mb/S) I will say every test that I did using the stock AT&T modem was higher than any other modem I used.

Everyone seems to be talking about wifi calling.. how well does normal calling work? how is the signal over all? is it worth it to get an AT&T version and try to use the blaze modems instead of getting the T-Mobile version?

Just use jedi leader ics 4.0.4 it has wifi calling and stable...for tmobile version...
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hey guys, i got my wife an ATT Note for Tmo. All i did was unlock it put in her Tmo sim and that was it. No root, or rom, or any different radio flashing. She only gets 4g no LTE though. Is there a way to get LTE??

mcernuto said:
hey guys, i got my wife an ATT Note for Tmo. All i did was unlock it put in her Tmo sim and that was it. No root, or rom, or any different radio flashing. She only gets 4g no LTE though. Is there a way to get LTE??
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are you using the t-mobile lte apn setting? fast.t-mobile.com