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Heya.
I did a little research and finally noticed that I would never get picture messages, and I heard this is a problem with the Iphone as well. But i figure with the Tilt I should be fine. Why do my picture messages not work and it directs me towards ATT's Viewmymessage.com website? Any help? Thanks everyone! -Jeff
The iPhones does not have mms capability, but the Tilt does. You should check with AT&T if everything is correctly provisioned in their system. I have a Tilt and I get picture messages fine.
Hope this helps!
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Jeff,
Do you know what type of messages are being sent that you cannot receive? MMS, email, other? I have no idea what viewmymessage.com is but on the front page it says...
If you received a text message directing you to this site, then someone has sent you a multimedia message.
To view your message, enter the personal password that was included in your text message.
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When you try that does it work?
I have AT&T also and have gotten MMS messages from Verizon and AT&T users without an issue. Maybe this viewmymessage.com service is related to where the message is originating from?
Hello.
I thought is was because of their service providers as well, but I've tried with people from T-mobile, Verizon and ATT and I always received the message without the pic..
It's a MMS, so it's a picture within a txt. I was reading online how this is setup because the iphone cannot received mms, so for the iphone they created this website to view photos within the txt.. But, I cannot understand for the life of me why I cant see pictures in my text's.
Interesting. Maybe AT&T thinks you have an iPhone? Are you on their iPhone plan? Also log onto your account and make sure your phone there isn't listed as the iPhone.
sounds to me like that's what the other persons phone is sending you to. nothing to do with your tilt. Like you could have a rzr and still see the same message. i get mms fine on my tilt with at&t
Yea I'm going to have to call them. It's def not the people sending it to me. I've gone online and ATT is showing me that I have a Tilt on their website, I'm just gonna give them a ring and see whats up.
I am sure this is a provisioning issue. I just called AT&T because of this and sms not getting to my phone and it was because of the way they setup my account. I am sure you will have this fix shortly.
Figured it out I think. I have a W810I registered with ATT because the net is cheaper on that phone. I only use my tilt 4 days out of the week and just dont use net on it those 4 days, cus 30 bucks is expensive. So i opted to just use my w810i for 15 bucks a month. I remember when i called they had to change the MAE or EMI whatever number to the old sony ericson, thats why they are not appearing correctly. This will be interesting...
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Figured it out I think. I have a W810I registered with ATT because the net is cheaper on that phone. I only use my tilt 4 days out of the week and just dont use net on it those 4 days, cus 30 bucks is expensive. So i opted to just use my w810i for 15 bucks a month. I remember when i called they had to change the MAE or EMI whatever number to the old sony ericson, thats why they are not appearing correctly. This will be interesting...
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nope thats not it. i have a tilt and att thinks i have a razr so i only pay 35 for unlimeted internet and sms adn i can send and recive mms so its on att's end. oh adn dont tell them you have a tilt or they WILL NOT HELP you trust me...they will say its becouse you are useing a pda on a media max plan
So i know all phones have a Email attached to the number for example [email protected], So i have a friend that lives in Canada and i at .25 cents a text it gets spendy to text her.
So if instead of just putting in the number as 123456789 i put it in as the email address will it avoid the charges or will it still see the cell tower it sends from and charge me? im attached to email all day so i can just email form a normal email address but Texting just seems much more convenient
Hehe
Thanks for any help.
i dont get what u mean by the cell tower thing, but i think i get what you mean......you want to avoid international sms charge by sending a txt msg to an email address.
if you are using an at&t rom, then all u have to do is put in the email address in the recipient box and send it. if you're using a non-at&t rom, then u have to do some tiny changes in the registry, i dont remember wat they were, search for it.
this way u will be charged the normal sms rate, or if u have an sms plan then it will be deducted from the plan
If you are sending an email... you will be charged via your data plan. While this is convenient for you, it becomes a challenge for the other person who may be trying to respond.
You might want to consider a good chat tool in the case of an online conversation. Skype is popular, free, and can be run on a desktop OR PPC phone.
Cheers!
Do you have pay as you talk in the States? Does it allow international roaming?
What I'm thinking, and it's a solution that worked for a friend who lived in the UK and had a Canadian boyfriend, is that she bought him a pay as you talk UK phone, shipped it out to him and whilst he didn't really use it for anything, she could send him texts on that phone that came out of her inclusive allowance, thus avoiding any charges. Of course this would depend on the price of the pay as you talk phone, any running costs etc. For a UK phone, once you buy it there were no running costs hence why this was an option. YMMV.
There is an easier way than sending messages as an email. You can download java applications to your phone that allow you to send messages through the phones GPRS rather than SMS. This costs a fraction of the price and works the same way as you would send a normal message.
A good site to check out is FishText.com. Texts to canada cost €0.02 and in my experience it has always worked.
if you have a data plan or using wifi get this software from the link http://www.nimbuzz.com/ it is free and you well not get charge for any text
I've seen discussions here about running a voip client on the tilt, but I've not yet found exactly what kind of service provider is needed for this.
I have packet8 voip service at home. Can I configure a tilt client to make/receive calls over that service? If so, what info do I need from packet 8 to do so?
Or, I have a gizmo account that my grandcentral forwards to. Gizmo only seems to have a java based client for the phone, which isn't working very well for me.
Basically what I'm wanting is calls from my grand central number to get to my tilt via wifi, since I work underground where cell signal isn't available, but we have solid wifi coverage. I'm not worried about being able to make calls.
What's the best way to accomplish this, and can I do it without having to pay for another provider?
VOIP, Voice Over I P, requires an internet connection. As far as I know you don't need a provider. You need an internet connection and a client. Skype is pretty popular but there are others. Check out the SEARCH link in my signature, below. Search for Skype, VOIP, and similar terms and you will get the answer to your question.
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VOIP, Voice Over I P, requires an internet connection. As far as I know you don't need a provider. You need an internet connection and a client. Skype is pretty popular but there are others. Check out the SEARCH link in my signature, below. Search for Skype, VOIP, and similar terms and you will get the answer to your question.
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How could you not have a provider? Something has to transfer calls from the POTS network where the call originates to VOIP. Last I knew, skype charged for 'skype-in' to have a phone number associated with your skype account for calls to come in to.
I have already searched for and read VOIP related posts, as I indicated in the OP. None that I found addressed configuration of packet8 service, which is what I'm ideally looking for. Hopefully someone else will be able to help answer the question, rather than suggesting something I've already tried without success already.
it bugz me nuts when someone who doesnt know what theyre talkin about replies w/nonsense assuming that youre just a little dumber than them..
obviously, these ppl just dont understand what the need is And that they arent qualified to reply...
many times this makes a thread grow beyond the point of management. the mods are hard pressed to clean up irrelevant posts--- such as this..
thankfully, this thread wont reach those numbers..
i aint hating, im just saying :: you all just spit out the words "search" and often a thread you spout off is hundreds of posts long and most are irrelevant--
impossible for someone who has a life to wade all the way thru..
thanx for the space-- feel freee to delete this post.
BTW, i would like to know how you solve it.. please post when you find it
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BTW, i would like to know how you solve it.. please post when you find it
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That I will!
gai-jin said:
I've seen discussions here about running a voip client on the tilt, but I've not yet found exactly what kind of service provider is needed for this.
I have packet8 voip service at home. Can I configure a tilt client to make/receive calls over that service? If so, what info do I need from packet 8 to do so?
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Packet8 is a non-standard VOIP provider. I believe you will need to download, install, and use their client. And that'll cost you over and above your existing service. Worse, I don't think it will get you what you want. Appears that you can make calls, but I'm not sure if you can receive them. I'm not a Packet8 user so I'm not certain of that. But since you are, I'd recommend contacting them to find out what's possible with their service using a mobile device.
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Or, I have a gizmo account that my grandcentral forwards to. Gizmo only seems to have a java based client for the phone, which isn't working very well for me.
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The Gizmo5 mobile client is Java based. It will run like crap if it all on your device. More bad news, it's primarily an IM app and it does not do pure VoIP.
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Basically what I'm wanting is calls from my grand central number to get to my tilt via wifi, since I work underground where cell signal isn't available, but we have solid wifi coverage. I'm not worried about being able to make calls.
What's the best way to accomplish this, and can I do it without having to pay for another provider?
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I use Voipstunt, and I'm able to make and receive calls on my device. However you do have to pay for the service. And typically it will cost a little more if you want a dedicated number so you can receive POTS calls. In many (most) cases calls between SIP devices / VOIP software are free. Skype is probably the most common example of this.
I'm sure you're busy, as we all are, but as you have time you really should peruse this INCREDIBLY long but educational thread on VOIP. In a nutshell here's what's needed to do get what you're asking about. You will need a VOIP provider (probably NOT Packet8, I'm afraid), a soft phone application for Windows Mobile (I like SJPhone or X-Lite), and if you want to receive from a POTS line you will also need an incoming number from your VOIP provider (usually called a VOIP-In number). Hope this helps you a little. Good luck!
VOIP or not to VOIP
I use FRING http://www.fring.com/ It also handles other thinkgs such as Skype. I had a previous Skype account which is free obviously. Then all you do is load Fring and then you can put in your Skype account and it will upload all your Skype contacts. You can then select one of these and hit call. You are now making a VOIP call over your phones data stream to your friends computer. But if you are wanted to make VOIP calls to landlines actual home telephones or cell phones then that will cost you money and you will have to load skype credits an what not. But if you have an unlimited data plan (which most people do if you have a pocket pc) then you can just call people on your buddy list like if you were talking from your desktop. This way if your friend is online you can talk all you want and not use any of your regular minutes cuz its all working off your data plan. You must have a 3G connection though or it will not be fast enough.
FREE softphone/BYOD
Simply put, http://www.nch.com.au/talk/:)
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The Gizmo5 mobile client is Java based. It will run like crap if it all on your device. More bad news, it's primarily an IM app and it does not do pure VoIP.
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First of all, THANK YOU for your very detailed post. It is on point, and addresses my questions, and that's very much appreciated.
I did want to elaborate just a bit on the Gizmo option though. The only reason I specifically mention Gizmo is because that's the provider that grandcentral says it works with. Is it possible to use a good windows mobile voip client with gizmo service? If so, that would be ideal, since I could continue to receive calls to grand central, without having to pay for a seperate sip /voip-in service.
http://www.google.com/support/grandcentral/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=79951
I use Voipstunt, and I'm able to make and receive calls on my device. However you do have to pay for the service. And typically it will cost a little more if you want a dedicated number so you can receive POTS calls. In many (most) cases calls between SIP devices / VOIP software are free. Skype is probably the most common example of this.
I'm sure you're busy, as we all are, but as you have time you really should peruse this INCREDIBLY long but educational thread on VOIP. In a nutshell here's what's needed to do get what you're asking about. You will need a VOIP provider (probably NOT Packet8, I'm afraid), a soft phone application for Windows Mobile (I like SJPhone or X-Lite), and if you want to receive from a POTS line you will also need an incoming number from your VOIP provider (usually called a VOIP-In number). Hope this helps you a little. Good luck!
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Again, thanks for the info. I'll definitely check out that thread. I'm fine with using a different provider if need be, but somewhat hesitant just because calls would be going from pots to grandcentral to pots dialing the voip number, back to voip to get to my phone. (at least, I assume since GC only supports gizmo voip numbers, that they are actually forwarding to pots for any other calls outbound.) That just seems like a lot of transitions, which is why the gizmo would be my first choice if it can work with a better voip client.
Thanks again!
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I use FRING http://www.fring.com/ It also handles other thinkgs such as Skype. I had a previous Skype account which is free obviously. Then all you do is load Fring and then you can put in your Skype account and it will upload all your Skype contacts. You can then select one of these and hit call. You are now making a VOIP call over your phones data stream to your friends computer. But if you are wanted to make VOIP calls to landlines actual home telephones or cell phones then that will cost you money and you will have to load skype credits an what not. But if you have an unlimited data plan (which most people do if you have a pocket pc) then you can just call people on your buddy list like if you were talking from your desktop. This way if your friend is online you can talk all you want and not use any of your regular minutes cuz its all working off your data plan. You must have a 3G connection though or it will not be fast enough.
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Unfortunately, 3G isn't available around here, but as I said, I'm really looking for this to work over a wifi connection anyway, which should definitely be fast enough to handle the calls.
I'll check into fring, hopefully it can support the gizmo service as well!
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Packet8 is a non-standard VOIP provider. I believe you will need to download, install, and use their client. And that'll cost you over and above your existing service. Worse, I don't think it will get you what you want. Appears that you can make calls, but I'm not sure if you can receive them. I'm not a Packet8 user so I'm not certain of that. But since you are, I'd recommend contacting them to find out what's possible with their service using a mobile device.
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I've seen ads for the Mobiletalk service form packet8 before, but unless I'm mistaken it's intended for getting voip rates on international calls, not for everyday voip use for domestic calls. I'm downloading the app now to see if it can be used in that way, but if it does what I need I'll be surprised.
Whoops, looks like my initial understanding was correct:
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How does MobileTalk work?
MobileTalk is a small software application that monitors your international calls and redirects it to the Packet8 service. When an international prefix is dialed (starting with 011, + or 1), MobileTalk intelligently redirects the call to an access number in the same area code as your mobile phone number, and connects the call over the Packet8 VoIP phone service network. To sign up click here.
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Seriously?
Did you not read my post? It is a free pocket pc softphone that you can use with any SIP/VoIp service, as long as you can get their network settings. As with the post earlier in the thread, VoipStunt provides a very reasonable service, and they provide settings for BYOD(bring your own device). You will find it here http://www.voipstunt.com/en/sipp.html But mainly you need a windows mobile softphone, http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html From there you have many more options on what service you use. Also try http://www.broadvoice.com/ they have many flavours of service.;-)
I am not sure this will do the job for you but google wengophone. They have a soft phone that will work on your Tilt. I have used it to make outgoing calls and works good. I have not tried it for incoming as I think my ATA would pick the incoming up first. All you need is your login, PW, proxie and domain server name. If you have those for Gizmo it should work.
Let us know if it does.
FWIW, I'm 75 or so pages into the 'log educational thread' mentioned above. Anyone who's starting on that thread, feel free to read from the beginning, but don't start installing stuff or mucking with settings until you've read all the way through. There are multiple revisions of the cabs and files needed, and it seems that the original posts don't get updated with the new info.
So far, my voip is working, using the windows mobile 6 client, with gizmo, so yes, it can be done, but it's only working on speakerphone currently. Still reading for more info.
I've just summarized a bit of what I've gathered so far from that long 'educational' thread pointed out by hotmail, on page 135 of the same thread. Hope that helps others!
I have searched the forum and I keep finding sources that say you have to have data plan and use the e-mail function in order to send pictures. Am I missing something or is the TILT capable of sending picture texts? It seems sort of ridiculous for such an expensive phone to not have such a basic capability. Sorry if this is a retarded question but I cant seem to find the answer on the forum.
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I have searched the forum and I keep finding sources that say you have to have data plan and use the e-mail function in order to send pictures. Am I missing something or is the TILT capable of sending picture texts? It seems sort of ridiculous for such an expensive phone to not have such a basic capability. Sorry if this is a retarded question but I cant seem to find the answer on the forum.
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You don't need a data plan to send MMS. aka Picture text.
but it does access media net to send MMS if im not mistaken, so its not free, at least thats what Cingular reps say...LOL
alright i feel dumb asking this question but the only way i can seem to send a picture is through e-mail. how exactly do you send the picture text? i dont see the option through the texting
^ Messages>Menu>New>Multimedia Message
all hail strike one
i now feel at least 50% stupider than before because that was pretty obvious. thanks a lot strikeone
Keep one thing in mind when using MMS. Pictures & text cannot exceed 600k. It has something to do with AT&T's OTA servers or something.
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so i tried to send the picture text and it seemed that i had to connect to the gsm network in order to send it. i have picture text in my plan but no data plan, is there any way i can do this for free without having to get on the network?
It will temporarily connect to Media Net. Don't worry, as soon as it's finished sending/recieving it will disconnect. If you have a picture messaging package, then any picture message less that 600k is free for you, unless it's sent to someone not on AT&T. I've been doing it for years & trust me, I don't get billed for internet usage. I promise!
thanks again vamp!
No problem, bro. That's why we're here.
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thanks a lot strikeone
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^ yep, no problem .
Lets put it like this. When you send a picture, you do in fact access the internet. It is called a MMS (Multi Media Message). AT&T says as long as you have a SMS plan that allows MMS to send and receive, you will not get charged. However there is a size limit of 600k. As for my tilt, I keep the internet disabled. I Am too cheap for a data plan right now. I only enable my data when I know a MMS message is coming. If you don't have an internet plan through AT&T you can have what they call pay as you go data. You get charged for the usage by KB (Kilobytes). With the tilt and how it likes to access the internet all the time, this can get pricey. Just a FYI...
Situation: The place I go skydiving at is really rural. My service goes in and out, but is more out than in. Is there any way possible to force a connection to the AT&T network that's out there? When I try, I get the message "Your SIM card does not allow this" or whatever it says. I don't wanna drop my T Mobile service, as I've had them since '02 and they've been great to me. But I'm at wit's end with this no service thing every weekend when I jump =/
Thanks in advance
~Lania
lol.... no not unless you can somehow get ATT to allow T-Mo sims.... and hell has a better chance of freezing over..... only option i can think of is grab an ATT ppd sim.... either do the hack to install 2 sims (requires pretty severe physical modification to the phone) or simply remove your T-mo Sim and insert your ATT sim....
you ARE using google voice arent you? in that case you can have all incoming calls ring both numbers, seeing as you should only have one registered on a network at a time....
welcome to the only reason i ever even think of dropping my T-Mo service.... and ive had them since before they were called T-Mobile... (powertel, i think.....)
No, I don't use Google voice. Don't you have to have an invite for that?
Anyway, it's not that big a deal I guess...My service has been gettin a lil better the more I go out there. Last weekend if I put my butt up against the hanger door, I got signal lol My contract is up next August. Prob switch to Verizon then unless T Mobile gets somethin done with the quickness about their service coverage.
you can have an invite sent to you by someone who has it, or you can request an invite off the google voice page it's self, it just takes about a week to get the invite if you request thru GV site... id HIGHLY reccomend getting one, all kinds of cool stuff can be done, including (but not limited too) Cheap international rates (.02 per min to landlines almost anywhere), totally unlimited calling over SIP (this ones pretty tricky to setup), visual and transcribed voice mails, caller screening, call routing (inbound).
if WiFi is available where your having signal issues then a SIP solution through GV, a SIP provider, SIPSorcery, and PBXes.org could give you access to phone calls (inbound and outbound, to/from you GV number)
its a rough setup (took me several tries, a couple days, and a couple shots to finally get right, and im nowhere near a novice) but if thats what would solve your problem grab a copy of SIPDroid (off the google code page, not the market), a GV invite, a PBXes account, a SIPSorcery account (all of the preceding are free services). A SIP provider will also be nessicary (some are free and some arent, i use SIPGate, which is free the way i use it/ have it set up).
look around on google for some tutorials (id link to one, but none were complete, or were old, i had to piece the info together from several tutorials, the SIPDroid page, PBXes help pages, and some common sense)
I'll look into it
worst case it'll allow you to still use your G1 for calls on Wifi over SIP after you change service providers (and phones) if you dont grab another android (or even if you do for that matter, with the proper setup ofcourse)...