OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go. If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right? Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory? Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first. Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it. I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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Nard Dog said:
OK, I am going to be getting a couple NCs for the wife and I. So I have been doing a lot of reading and want to make sure I have a handle on evrtything. I have decided that CM7 is the way to go.
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The only stupid question is the one unasked.
Nard Dog said:
If I am understanding correctly I basically create a CM7 image on an SD Card (cheap Sandisk seems to work best???) and then I can run it from the SD card without installing it on the internal memory of the NC. That way I can pull the SD card, reboot and have a stock NC. Is that right?
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That is correct; with one exception. CM7 will mount the "Media" partition, and changes there will be reflected on the stock OS (this partition just stores your files, pictures, music, etc; nothing related to the system).
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Will the performance suffer from running it from the SD card? Are there benefits to installing on the internal memory?
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Yes, performance will suffer. I used to run from SD card, until i finally gave up and tried internal. Internal is much faster, and of course makes it easier to use you SD card for pure storage.
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Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app?
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Normal NC? You mean as just an eReader? Yes, you would just use the market version of the nook app.
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How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality?
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From what i have seen, you will lose the "Read to me" functionality, and the look and feel of the market version is different of that of the stock version. But, by using CM7 (or rooting stock), you can gain access to Kindle and Google books, which kind of makes up for it.
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My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
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Does anyone have experience using different browsers like Skyfire and Opera? Those are what I use a lot on my phone. I have seen the name Dolphin HDused alot, but I don't know anything about it.
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Opera is by far the best browser; it is the only browser with renders web pages with the GPU; this is what allows smooth scrolling and page views (like the iPad has). Dolphin is nothing more than a skin of the stock browser, and isn't worth worrying about.
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I am sorry for all the questions and if my terminology is not 100% accurate. I am, as the welcome video says; a noob.
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Also, if I do install it to the internal memory, how do you use it as a normal NC? Do you just get the Android Nook app? How does that compare to the actual Nook software? Do you lose any functionality? My wife will use hers primarily as an e reader whereas mine will be a tablet first.
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The Android Nook app loses:
* Read To Me
* Shelves
* A quick shortcut to the current book you're reading
It gains a couple of features: a fancy page-turn animation, and a true black & white "night" mode. (The stock reader's night mode is more of an off-white on dark gray, if I remember right.)
If your wife has a lot of nook books, she may really miss the shelves feature. Without it all books are listed on one page, ordered by Title, Author or Most Recent. That's most recently purchased, not most recently read.
With no shortcut, every time you return to the app you have to scroll through all the books you have downloaded to find the one you're currently reading. That could be annoying if you've got a few dozen or more loaded.
I get around both problems by using a third-party reader. But to use it, I have to strip the DRM from the books I own, which is at best a gray area legally.
Most people who read a lot will probably get more out of a stock nook, or better still, a nootered nook. If it's nootered (rooted), you get all the features of the stock reader, as well as the ability to download any number of other applications including Kindle and Overdrive (the library lending app.)
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I would say for you, CM7 internal would be good (remember, you can always put the stock OS back on if you change your mind), and the stock OS best for you wife.
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Thank you very much for the input. Your answers have highlighted the fact that I need to do a lot more research. I am not even sure what the NC can do out of the box. While the wifey will use it primarily as a reader, she also wants to be able to play games and download apps. Can this still be done on the stock OS? Can you install a different browser (opera) on the stock OS? I've seen the term "rooted stock" but haven't read up on it much since I figured I'd just have to root them to do what we both want. I'm guessing "rooted stock" is somewhere between being rooted and keeping the stock OS. Would this allow using the native reader intetface while still allowing access to apps via the Android market? If I can get it so she has a nice browser, can play games (Angry Birds, etc) and keep the native reader (which she really likes) that would be perfect. BTW, before anyone starts yelling "USE THE SEARCH NOON" like they do on some forums I have visited, I know these answers are probably all on this forum somewhere and I am continuing to research on my own. I have been and will be reading a ton of old posts, etc. But, it is also helpful to have one thread to list all of the questions that pop into my head.
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I was new to Android a couple months ago and hesitant to root so I decided to put CM7 on an sdcard. I bought a cheap card and the thing worked but it was agonizingly slow. I bought a Sandisk 8GB class 4 and it works GREAT - very fast. I have never overclocked (haven't gotten the nerve for that yet) and it is very speedy for my needs. I later rooted stock which is what I recommend for your wife. You put a launcher on (I like zeam) and then you have your B&N shelves and access to the Android market as well. BTW, you can also get the Amazon Appstore and check it out daily because they put up a free app every day - very cool.
Good luck with your decision. I love my Nook!
Cool, so it looks like it'll be CM7 for me and nootered for her.
One more question since I have your attention. Is there a way to tether the NC to my Droid X and connect to the internet? My Droid X is totally stock and I have no desire to root it or mod it in any way. I have used PDAnet to tether to my laptop, so I'm looking for something similar to that.
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I can tether my Win Mobile phone (getting an Android phone as soon as my contract runs out!) to my NC. My phone creates an ad hoc connection and I had to make a small change on the Nook to get it to work. I'm pretty sure you will have no problem. Just search and you will find the details specific to your phone.
The only (wireless) tethering you can do WITHOUT rooting is the paid Verizon service. No other wireless rooting will work (all need superuser). I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..
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I gotta ask though - any reason you don't want to root the X? Its not really anything different from rooting your nook..
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I guess it's really just fear. If I brick my phone, I am royally screwed. If I brick the Nook, it would suck, but it's more of a toy anyway. I know it's probably very safe and easy, but I just keep thinking of the horror stories I read when I thought about rooting my Q9m back in the day. That said it is very likely that once I root the Nook, I will end up rooting my phone. Baby steps
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Just bought a NC. Thought about a gtablet, but the complaints about the screen were too hard to ignore.
I plan on surfing the web and reading books about 90% of the time. Watching a flash video on espn.com here and there would be nice, but not essential since I always have a laptop and droid x with me. No interest in playing games or watching movies on it.
Should I just stick with stock or root it? And if rooting is the way to go, will my 2gb class 2 Sandisk microsd card do, or do I need something else?
And is the market nook app the same as the stock reader or worse?
Thanks.
I would root it, do some of the mods....you really will enjoy it.
You can root it and still use all of the stock B&N software. Rooting it will give you full access to the Android market and allow you to install apps such as Dolphin Browser (much better than the stock one IMHO). Alas it still will not have flash support, but B&N is supposed to be adding it in an update before too long.
A two gig card should work fine for rooting your NC just be sure to read all of the instructions and cautions thoroughly.
I would definitely root it. I use my Nook for reading about 90% of the time as well, but rooting definitely improves the functionality aspect of the reading experience, such as being able to read comic books, download library books directly to the device, putting your sideloading books directly on the homescreen, etc.
Not to mention you'll still have full access to all of your BN features.
I assume you mean go with 2.1 for now instead of froyo?
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I assume you mean go with 2.1 for now instead of froyo?
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Yes, in other words, root the ROM as-is, so you have all of the B&N functionality, plus you can add to it. My wife uses her Nook for Facebook and reading.
I updated to 1.0.1, nooted, installed ADW, Facebook, some misc other stuff. Her softkeys are set up the same way as I suggest to everyone (see signature), ADW is the default launcher WITHIN Softkeys. She hits the button in the status bar to get to the B&N apps, otherwise she launches Facebook or what not from ADW Launcher.
It's simple and works great for her.
Go 2.1. There are fewer caveats and its a tad more stable. You can always go 2.2 after its up to snuff.
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Go for ooted 2.1, doesn't break B&N reading software and adds lots of features.
And yes to root even a 1 GB sd card would do, autonooter image is like 40 Mb.
You'll be amazed with what you can do with just the plain ROOT
If you only really want to read or surf, the Nook is terrific at those things. However, maybe one of the cheaper tablets would also do well at these? Like Pan Digital Novel, or a Coby or something? Or am I being a crazy person?
Root it! I thought BN interface was painfully slow. Us zeam, launcherpro or adw launchers and then just put the library and shop icons on your home screen. I like that setup much nicer and easier to use.
I use it as a reader about 80% of the time now, and I'm still glad I rooted. It means I can use the Kindle app or the Alkiko app, it means I can customize my homepage much better, it means I can download apps that allow me to transfer files wireless etc.
Just rooted, thanks all
markiejones said:
If you only really want to read or surf, the Nook is terrific at those things. However, maybe one of the cheaper tablets would also do well at these? Like Pan Digital Novel, or a Coby or something? Or am I being a crazy person?
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@markiejones: lol it seems you are indeed being a crazy person.
the Pandigital novel is pretty much junk. It is low quality materials at a bargain price. Browsing the web or reading is not a very pleasant experience on the device.
The Kobo is another bargain reader. It has no web browsing whatsoever and is limited severely by it's eInk screen in terms of capability, and has a fairly small storage capacity.
Both devices also run on a pretty meager processor, contributing more to their inefficiencies.
You mean people actually buy these things to read with them?
You're probably right, but the second device i was referring to was a Coby Kyros 7015 which is an actual tablet and considered" not bad"
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I just bought my nookColor yesterday and loving it so far. That said, I'd definitely prefer to have the Android marketplace on it and have more games, utilities, etc.
So I was going to root it later today, once I pick up a microSD card, but then I watched one of the 'I rooted my Nook' videos on youtube and the guy in the video mentioned that Barnes & Noble will be coming out with an update to FroYo in March.
So...should I wait to root? I'm assuming that BN's update will likely interfere or delete the root. I'm okay with having to re-root but wanted to see what people's thoughts were regarding the possibility of BN being jerks and if their update can sense a root and brick the Nook or cause problems?
I rooted my Nook and that's basically all I use it for now... The only reason to go to stock is to have the ability to use "read-to-me" books. You can't go wrong! But I can't give you advice on how the rooting will affect updates. Worst case scenario will be that you have to re-root.
Hope that helps; I'm a newbie too but haven't been disappointed yet!
I always thought there are ways to unroot and go back stock.
Check it out in development forum.
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Personally I bought my NC specifically TO root it. Got it about a month ago and within an hour of purchase it was rooted and I never looked back.
I'm using just a basic root with stock eclair. Works for me just great. I run an overclocked kernel and launcher pro as my default launcher. Loving this thing!
Nookie froyo off of an SD card is good too and something you can setupt dual boot easily using guides in the dev forum.
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Or just burn an android to SD card. And run totally base on it,
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Or just burn an android to SD card. And run totally base on it,
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Can you please point us to the right thread? I've gone on there and there are a few options to choose from. Which one would give me Froyo and is the simplest to do?
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try the customized froyo 0.68 for SD card
I am not using PC, so sorry I am not be more detail
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I would start slow. just rooting opens up a lot of options with market/google apps and overclocking that should keep you busy while you read up on the other options. I don't like running firmware from the sd card but thats just me. you can also dual boot from internal memory which doesn't wipe your stock rom either.
what ever you do you can always go back to bone stock easily so don't worry about that.
Root it. I got mine 2 weeks ago... I'm not a software guy, I don't know any programming languages, and I've never rooted anything before (Nexus One is still plain vanilla) I tried Nookie Froyo and Honeycomb off of the SD card, but they weren't really all that functional. Neat, yes, but not much more than a novelty.
I went the AutoNooter route 2 days ago, and things are looking good. Working Youtube, Gmail, and other apps.
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Root it. I got mine 2 weeks ago... I'm not a software guy, I don't know any programming languages, and I've never rooted anything before (Nexus One is still plain vanilla) I tried Nookie Froyo and Honeycomb off of the SD card, but they weren't really all that functional. Neat, yes, but not much more than a novelty.
I went the AutoNooter route 2 days ago, and things are looking good. Working Youtube, Gmail, and other apps.
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What was not functional about them? Also what is the downside of loading off of the SD card as opposed to internal memory, I mean other than having to purchase a large SD card I suppose?
I'm a complete 0 when it comes to Android.
Bought mine this morning, did the Nookie Froyo on the sdcard to run android, and it works wonderful! I bought it specifically to root. 249 for an android tablet? Why not!
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Bought mine this morning, did the Nookie Froyo on the sdcard to run android, and it works wonderful! I bought it specifically to root. 249 for an android tablet? Why not!
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Why Froyo and not Gingerbread?
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Why Froyo and not Gingerbread?
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Got to have something to do on Sunday!
What runs smoother? Froyo on SD or AutoNooter?
I'm buying a Nook today and going to root it and make it an Android tablet but there's sooooo many threads out there about this (and being updated every second), so I just wanted to know the basic - which is faster?
I don't like a choppy, sluggish OS...
Root it now. It is not much of a big deal anyway. You can return to stock in minutes if you like. I don't think that we have to wait for something better from B & N, even if they update to 2.2 (i don't think they would...). They don't want to sell a tablet but an e-reader with some extra capability( and they did it well), you can read your books, surf the net, listen to music, play videos.
They already announced bandmaster will release a version of honeycomb in the future.
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Just installed CM7 and it's nice. Feel a bit slower than autonoot but the overall experience is nicer. So I'd like to make it permanent. Only thing is: I do use the original Nook color reader app, well my son does for those "read it to me" children books. So it would be nice to be able to run it in CM7. Anybody has experience?
Thanks,
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Hi,
Just installed CM7 and it's nice. Feel a bit slower than autonoot but the overall experience is nicer. So I'd like to make it permanent. Only thing is: I do use the original Nook color reader app, well my son does for those "read it to me" children books. So it would be nice to be able to run it in CM7. Anybody has experience?
Thanks,
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If you just installed cm7, it will run a lot better if you over clock it. And it will run even faster if you flash DALs newest kernel on it. That being said, you can download the nook software straight from the android market.
Unfortunately, the nook software in the market is quite different than the software which ships with the stock nook.
My understanding is that someone on here is working on extracting the nook software from the stock rom, but don't know how well that effort is going.
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Unfortunately, the nook software in the market is quite different than the software which ships with the stock nook.
My understanding is that someone on here is working on extracting the nook software from the stock rom, but don't know how well that effort is going.
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First thing I did when I got my nook was registering it then powering it off to root it lol. So i did not know it was any different.
Honestly what other features are you looking for out of it. The nook app on android will allow you to read your ebooks and manage your library.
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First thing I did when I got my nook was registering it then powering it off to root it lol. So i did not know it was any different.
Honestly what other features are you looking for out of it. The nook app on android will allow you to read your ebooks and manage your library.
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It doesn't allow magazines, newspapers, some of the enhanced nook color content such as the reading of children's books, reading free in store, and the lend me feature as far as i know
hmmmm. I forgot to mention: I couldn't download nook reader for Android. On the pad, it's simply not shown. On the PC, NC is listed as not supported. So I never know how good/bad it is.
The original read has a nicer feature for reading children's book by itself, which looks like proprietary stuff.
I can't go without the stock reader (children's books mostly), so I loaded CM7 to the sdcard and can run it from there. Overclocked, it runs pretty well, and I get all the features of gingerbread that are missing from eclair.
I'd rather it be the other way around (stock on SD card), but I don't think anyone is trying to get that to work, at least as far as I can tell.
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Hi,
Just installed CM7 and it's nice. Feel a bit slower than autonoot but the overall experience is nicer. So I'd like to make it permanent. Only thing is: I do use the original Nook color reader app, well my son does for those "read it to me" children books. So it would be nice to be able to run it in CM7. Anybody has experience?
Thanks,
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You could run CM7 on SDCard and keep stock rom so you can have the best of both worlds, remove SDCard and reboot when you want to read the children's books.
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Last I saw they are waiting for BN's official froyo release. They were having too many troubles with the eclair version and expect the froyo version to be more compatible. I'm hoping for stock reader on CM7 too!
Great! If the stock reader can be ported to CM7, all would be for the best in the best of all possible worlds (--Candide).
Specs-wise, I mean? The community here looks awesome, and the devs look fantastic, but it is 7-month old hardware. I suppose it won't much matter for what I'd be doing with it, but I was curious to get some input.
Pls note that it is a pure eReader that can turn into full tablet.
How will the next gen. NC look? Nobody knows yet.
I just bought one and running CM7 off the SD and love it. I use it as a tablet and have readers on it and don't miss the B&N software but can always take card out and use it for that. I think for $249.00 and you can get like new refurbished ones from B&N for about $200 and I hear they even come with a case, you can not beat the deal. Love the screen! I would buy one again.
I just got mine last Sunday, and it's pretty nice. It really depends on what you plan to do with it. If you want something that you can use with a stylus, then this isn't for you.
If you want to play some Angry Birds, watch netflix, catch the news, take some notes, and do everything your phone can do on a larger screen (minus having a Mic and a phone), then this would be for you.
Specs don't mean jack (to a point) - it's rather what it can do for you.
At a $250 price point at with only slightly lower specs then the Galaxy tab (and less then half the cost) which includes a new B&N membership ($27 discount with B&N membership + $25 for the membership), it's a good deal if it meets your wants/needs.
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I just got mine last Sunday, and it's pretty nice. It really depends on what you plan to do with it. If you want something that you can use with a stylus, then this isn't for you.
If you want to play some Angry Birds, watch netflix, catch the news, take some notes, and do everything your phone can do on a larger screen (minus having a Mic and a phone), then this would be for you.
Specs don't mean jack (to a point) - it's rather what it can do for you.
At a $250 price point at with only slightly lower specs then the Galaxy tab (and less then half the cost) which includes a new B&N membership ($27 discount with B&N membership + $25 for the membership), it's a good deal if it meets your wants/needs.
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I agree for the most part, but the stylus comment is interesting.
I'm using one. Is there a reason you'd not recommend it for stylus?
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I just got mine last Sunday, and it's pretty nice. It really depends on what you plan to do with it. If you want something that you can use with a stylus, then this isn't for you.
If you want to play some Angry Birds, watch netflix, catch the news, take some notes, and do everything your phone can do on a larger screen (minus having a Mic and a phone), then this would be for you.
Specs don't mean jack (to a point) - it's rather what it can do for you.
At a $250 price point at with only slightly lower specs then the Galaxy tab (and less then half the cost) which includes a new B&N membership ($27 discount with B&N membership + $25 for the membership), it's a good deal if it meets your wants/needs.
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Thanks for the thoughts. Actually, I want to read. Mostly. I read a lot of pdfs, and the Kindle can't deal with pdfs well, and it's a pain to have to use a computer. Plus, I love playing around with CM7!
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I agree for the most part, but the stylus comment is interesting.
I'm using one. Is there a reason you'd not recommend it for stylus?
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From all my research, the worst issue with this device is the sensitivity of the screen. Even with the sensitivity hacked, it does not perform continuous swipes. So things like drawing and writing (from what I understand) are not all that great on this device.
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Thanks for the thoughts. Actually, I want to read. Mostly. I read a lot of pdfs, and the Kindle can't deal with pdfs well, and it's a pain to have to use a computer. Plus, I love playing around with CM7!
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Then this would sound like your kind of toy. Kindle seems to work well, and so does the Nook app, but I have found that the Nook app has certain books that fail to load (namely a few that come with the download). I haven't looked into the reason for that, but it says "unsupported format." I just haven't cared enough about it to really research that particular issue. Outside of that, it's been pretty impressive for the price.
Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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With the NC, you have to try really hard to brick it. If you are worried about bricking, run CM7 from an SDcard. As long as you don't do anything silly like formatting the internal emmc or something, you're safe.
If you choose to go the stock + root, or install CM7 to internal route, you'll end up installing something called ClockworkMod which has the various recovery, backup, flash type things to help prevent bad things.
And status of CM7? CM7 NC edition is what all the vendor *supported* Gingerbread's should be aspiring towards. That's how good it is. *fanboi*
As always, YMMV.
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Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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Since the nook boots from uSD first (hard wired and coded into the hardware) it is unbrickable...
That being said... always generate images of all partitions prior to messing around with it... there is device specific information stored on mmcblk0p2 and mmcblk0p3... if you lose those partitions and don't have backups... it can get quite interesting restoring it... if you have the backups... its pretty easy.
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With the NC, you have to try really hard to brick it. If you are worried about bricking, run CM7 from an SDcard. As long as you don't do anything silly like formatting the internal emmc or something, you're safe.
If you choose to go the stock + root, or install CM7 to internal route, you'll end up installing something called ClockworkMod which has the various recovery, backup, flash type things to help prevent bad things.
And status of CM7? CM7 NC edition is what all the vendor *supported* Gingerbread's should be aspiring towards. That's how good it is. *fanboi*
As always, YMMV.
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Thanks... I'm pretty experiance with android and rooting, I have an epic 4g... hopefully if I get this ill put on cm7 cuz we don't have a working version yet on the epic .... and do you think a refurb would be good for me to get, I want to spend the least amount of $. And would I just walk into b&n and say I want a refurb nook color? Thanks man.
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Thanks... I'm pretty experiance with android and rooting, I have an epic 4g... hopefully if I get this ill put on cm7 cuz we don't have a working version yet on the epic .... and do you think a refurb would be good for me to get, I want to spend the least amount of $. And would I just walk into b&n and say I want a refurb nook color? Thanks man.
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I'm seeing them for 200 at Overstock, which means no sales tax either!
http://www.overstock.com/Electronic...oble-Certified-Pre-Owned/5924200/product.html
@deano0714
Most folks have been getting refurbs from the BN store on ebay. AFAIK, those come with a 1yr warranty. My local BN's don't stock refurbs, so I don't know if that's even a possibility.
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Hey guys... well for my birthday I'm getting a good amount of $... and need a cheap tablet cuz I want to buy a computor too, my question is, is there something like odin for the galaxy s lines? That makes it basicly unbrickable? And how is the progress with cm7? Is mostly everything working? Thanks guys.
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LOL I am coming from the Captivate and on an Infuse....k
It seems its kinda weird how they use some terminology or sometimes don't when compared to phones...
Anyways great great tablet. Rivals any screen I think. Use Nook Tweaks to boost the internal speaker, just do it carefully and Dahlgin's OC Kernel to OC to 1.2Ghz.... Your Tab will like it more.
Use the instructions here. It will allow you to dual boot which is the basic idea. With the instructions, all of CM7 gingerbread runs completely on the SDcard, so all you are corrupting is the SD if you mess something up. Nook Color OS stays untouched!
Also if on Windows 7, use the Win32DiskImager. Recognized my drive better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
slider2828 said:
LOL I am coming from the Captivate and on an Infuse....k
It seems its kinda weird how they use some terminology or sometimes don't when compared to phones...
Anyways great great tablet. Rivals any screen I think. Use Nook Tweaks to boost the internal speaker, just do it carefully and Dahlgin's OC Kernel to OC to 1.2Ghz.... Your Tab will like it more.
Use the instructions here. It will allow you to dual boot which is the basic idea. With the instructions, all of CM7 gingerbread runs completely on the SDcard, so all you are corrupting is the SD if you mess something up. Nook Color OS stays untouched!
Also if on Windows 7, use the Win32DiskImager. Recognized my drive better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
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Will I have to buy a class 10 sd for running on sd?
Edit: also with themeing the nook would I have to change the resoulution if I were to port something over too the nook from the epic? Or would the hdpi be good enough?
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deano0714 said:
Will I have to buy a class 10 sd for running on sd?
Edit: also with themeing the nook would I have to change the resoulution if I were to port something over too the nook from the epic? Or would the hdpi be good enough?
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Class speeds are not as important as are random read speeds. From what I've read, Sandisk Class 4 is the king here.
Absolutely correct - Actually, the higher the class of card that is used, the more horror stories I hear! Stick with a basic SanDisk class 4 card and you'll be fine.
i felt the same way, op... until MIUI dropped! new love all over again
I would definitely recommend it, along with ezPDF reader if you will be reading a lot of PDFs. From my own experience, it was a pain to get a "good" NC -- the first couple had screen issues/dead pixels and I had to fight with B&N's customer service to finally get one without major issues. Most people seem to get perfect ones right from the start though. Beyond that, CM7 is FAN-TASTIC. I had some random issues with it on a microSD card (an 8gb a-data class 6, so it could have been issues with the card) but it's been super reliable after i installed to emmc. As far as specs go, it will easily overclock and i can't tell a difference in performance compared to my thunderbolt. I've still yet to see a comparable tablet for this price, based on performance and screen quality.
I currently have an ASUS Transformer Tablet running Honeycomb 3.2. My wife is interested in the Nook for reading, magazines, etc.
I think there is a Nook app for android as well. Can anyone help me decide if it's worth it to buy her the Nook, or not?
What does the nook have or not have that a full honeycomb tablet has?
What does the Nook app for android have/not have that the Nook may have?
Pro's/Con's for each way?
Not looking to Root the nook either to put full android on it, unless its easy and pretty much harmless.
Thanks for the help all!
p.s., how to i add my signature? i cant find it anywhere!
I have had both (returned the tf101 due to a hw bug - not a fault of the transformers design, just a normal qa bug). The current nooo application now has everything. Even magazines, which I remember being absent when I triedthe nook android app a while ago.
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pros: $250.00 cons: $350.00
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dandunn98 said:
I currently have an ASUS Transformer Tablet running Honeycomb 3.2. My wife is interested in the Nook for reading, magazines, etc.
I think there is a Nook app for android as well. Can anyone help me decide if it's worth it to buy her the Nook, or not?
What does the nook have or not have that a full honeycomb tablet has?
What does the Nook app for android have/not have that the Nook may have?
Pro's/Con's for each way?
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The stock nook reader can do the children's books (lots of animation and "read to me"), the Android app can't. Otherwise, for grownups, they're pretty much equivalent.
The Nook doesn't have a phone, cell network, camera, microphone, video out, or bluetooth with reasonable range. These are some of the reasons that the price is so good.
When you run CM7, it does have host-mode USB (albeit a little hacky at the moment).
Not looking to Root the nook either to put full android on it, unless its easy and pretty much harmless.
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Booting CM7 off the SD is absolutely harmless, and very easy the third or fourth time you do it...
If the goal is to end up with a device that is good for reading books the Nook Color is a great solution. You might want to root it, very easy, and leave it running the stock OS. That will open up the NC to running apps and getting to the standard Market, but leaves the unit with the reader centric interface. I have mine this way and prefer that to a generic Android experience such as CM7. I usually prefer the bigger screen of the Transformer to the NC for general tasks like web browsing.
so what in lieu of the missing hardware (camera, gps, etc), what software limitations is on the stock nook color? Can you install apps from android market?
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p.s., how to i add my signature? i cant find it anywhere!
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couldn't find the signature under private messages
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so what in lieu of the missing hardware (camera, gps, etc), what software limitations is on the stock nook color? Can you install apps from android market?
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Stock is crap IMO. Its only good if your just going to be reading books. Cm7 makes this thing the best tablet for your money. It is crazy easy to install and you get the full android tablet experience for less than half the price of the big boys. Yes it is missing a camera and GPS but why would you ever need that on a tablet?
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And there is no market access on stock unless you root it.
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I have both and each has its place in my tablet world. I like the portability of the Nook and its gorgeous screen. The Transformer screen is equally impressive looking. Would highly recommend CM7 for Nook as others have suggested. When I need to use an app like Google Goggles, or other apps that use camera/video capabilities, the Transformer is the obvious choice and is quite capable. I have not yet had success with USB camera or headset with Nook but still have hope thanks to the devs continuing work. I have used GPS with both (using bluetooth GPS on the Nook). I use the Transformer as my "cell phone" now with my 3G mifi device (using the GrooVeIP app). I believe your household would enjoy having both.
With the nook app you have access to a lot less magazines because of liscense agreements. On the stock nook you have access to all magazine subscriptions like GQ and Vanity Fair.
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soo much good info so far. i'll have to investigate this CM7. don't know much about it at all
I also have both Transformer and Nook.
They each have their place. I almost always have the rooted nook with me. Keep in mind that you can find refurbs for $180 to $200.
Also, when you root to a sd card, you don't change the underlying software in the main memory of the nook. If you have a problem with your nook, just pull the sd card out and reboot it to stock.
Once rooted, you can add the software reader from Kindle and Sony. This means you can comparative shop to find the book you want. When it is stock, you can only buy from BN or borrow from your library.
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I also have both Transformer and Nook.
They each have their place. I almost always have the rooted nook with me. Keep in mind that you can find refurbs for $180 to $200.
Also, when you root to a sd card, you don't change the underlying software in the main memory of the nook. If you have a problem with your nook, just pull the sd card out and reboot it to stock.
Once rooted, you can add the software reader from Kindle and Sony. This means you can comparative shop to find the book you want.
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This all sounds great, and i like the SD card root you guys are talking about. I haven't rooted an android device before so it's new to me, and i know theres TONS of posts regarding it as well. I have jailbroken iphones/ipod touches so i know the concept of it all.
With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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With root, can you obtain paid programs at no charge, like jailbreaks?
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Please don't go there.
Rodney
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Please don't go there.
Rodney
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understood. I'm all for giving credit to people for apps, and all. I just enjoy testing them before buying.
With the cost of most android programs being low, there should never be a reason to look at pirated software. The software development we have today is a testiment to the hard work of many talented developers who would not continue if their work was not appreciated.
The Nook color , like most any tablet/reader device, should be considered for purchase based on filling a specific need. For reading, I have not found another device that provides anything close to the experience of the nook. For less than $250.00, you have a color screen that rivals tablets costing 2-3 times the nook. The fact that the nook boots from an sd card allows you to have a full android experience while retaining the stock nook reader.
For those wishing to expand the stock nook, cm7 provides a rich android experience with multimedia and the (almost) entire android market for apps. The market is now "device aware" and will only allow download of apps compatable with the device.
As for USB use, I am using a logitech bluetooth keyboard to type this message and use USB host mode to connect my digital camera to the nook to transfer photos directly for better viewing.
If you require all the functions of a full tablet (camera, GPS, ect:.) The nook might not be for you but if it is a secondary device that you can use to enrich your life with it's many capabilities, you will not find a better value on the market.
I'll get off my soapbox now and let you get on with that nook purchase.
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if you mean to "sideload" apps then yes
A few weeks ago Staples had a coupon for $100 off all tables, including the Asus Transformer. This week Target is giving a $100 gift card to anyone who purchases an Acer Iconia (effectively making the price $299). For just $50 more than the cost of a new Nook Color, it's a no-brainer to get the Honeycomb tablet.
Both of the deals mentioned above seem indicative of price drops in the Android tablet market. Anyone who missed out on the above deals, just wait, and you'll see more like them.