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[Q] I want to become a dev.

I'm a creeper on the forums and i look up to you people...and Recently i saw a story on how the number1 iphone app was created by a fourteen year old.
It got me thinking.. and i really want to try this but i have absolutely zero coding experience..
I know it sounds noobish to say but all the devs on this forum had to start somewhere.. they didnt just magically get their talents.
What i'm asking for are tutorials, references, guides, even books, on how to develop android applications from scratch.
Please dont overlook me.. i just want to learn.
I have the android sdk and eclipse set up and linked together.
I even have app inventer.
Any help is appreciated

I'd recommend starting with the tutorials on the Android Developers website http://developer.android.com/resources/index.html. In the left column there are 6 tutorials that are quite good. I'd reccomend doing Hello World, Hello Views, Notepad Tutorial, and save the others for later. After that, your best bet would be to get an idea in your head and go for it. If you have questions the best place to ask is on IRC in #android-dev. Outside of that, google is your best friend. Just search for what you want to do.
Hope this helps!

Tutorials are usually a good way to learn what you can start doing.
After you get some basics and know how to search for certain functions/commands, then you can start thinking about what type of app you want.
A lot of books (I just glanced over them at the bookstore) suggested thinking of what you want the app to do and then designing the general User Interface on paper. And after the UI is in your mind, you can start programming.

thanks to both of you for the help really appreciate it.. people seem to ignore the noobs but anybody can learn.
ill put my ideas on paper first.
And ChainsDD what is the IRC in #android dev?

IRC is internet relay chat. To quote Wikipedia:
Wikipedia said:
Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is a popular[citation needed] form of real-time Internet text messaging (chat) or synchronous conferencing.[1] It is mainly designed for group communication in discussion forums, called channels,[2] but also allows one-to-one communication via private message[3] as well as chat and data transfer (including file sharing).[4]
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There are many clients out there to connect to it, but I believe that XChat is cross-platform and quite good. Here's the website for it. The quick start guide on that page will get you online, but choose freenode as your network, as that's where #android-dev is. There's also #android for general android discussions, and #android-root for root discussions.

I would recommend you to start with the basics. With that I mean Java applications for the command window. It's easy to set up and use to learn basic stuff like data types, operators and class structures. Search for "basic java programming" or likewise and you will find a lot of good (and bad) tutorials.
For example: Java tutorial for beginners - Introduction
When you have learned to write a simple program in Java use the Android tutorials to learn how to use Google's Java libraries. The three tutorials ChainsDD mentioned are a good start.
people seem to ignore the noobs
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Not all of us

Real Dev's code in Python (j/k)
But they all stated good things - pretty much pick a programming language and start from there. If it's Android development it is going to be Java (ugh).
If your serious about wanting to develop? I would recommend C++ as the language to get involved with. From there it is easy to branch off to other languages.
There is a TON of free material on the internet (that isn't pirated even) to help you get started. Compilers, code samples, documentation.. there is virtually no limit to the amount of data that is out there.
The trick is... A) to figure out what you want to do and B) remained focus on your goals and keep working at it. Coding is NOT easy (I can't code my way out of a wet paperbag - but I understand it) but can be very rewarding both personally and financially
So good luck!

avgjoegeek said:
but can be very rewarding both personally and financially
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Nah, I code for years and didn't get any of those rewards.. just lame jobs and no life!

iOS or Android Development

Which is better and more intrestiong iOS development or Android Development???

In what way?
Both are different forms of coding, however 2 separate languages

MacaronyMax said:
In what way?
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In having fun
MacaronyMax said:
Both are different forms of coding, however 2 separate languages
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I know but I develop nothing now so I want to start from the very beggining

This is an Android and Windows Phone forum. There's only a minority of people on here with iPhones or iPads, so I'd imagine a very small number of developers. You're gonna get a VERY biased point of view on here.
What programming have you done before now, and why do you want to program for either platform?

Archer said:
This is an Android and Windows Phone forum. There's only a minority of people on here with iPhones or iPads, so I'd imagine a very small number of developers. You're gonna get a VERY biased point of view on here.
What programming have you done before now, and why do you want to program for either platform?
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I Didn't try any language until now!!!

Gen1usw0rk said:
In having fun
I know but I develop nothing now so I want to start from the very beggining
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I guess you could say neither are fun, writing out hundreds of lines of code, It's up to you, I mean, Android is a growing OS, and if you can develop a quality app you have the potential for more users, and IOS also has a large user base, The are no 'thrills' that one has over the other, but if you want to develop for IOS you must be using a Mac with xcode installed, otherwise to develop android you need the SDK and eclipse which is available on most major OS's (Windows, Mac, Linux)

MacaronyMax said:
I guess you could say neither are fun, writing out hundreds of lines of code, It's up to you, I mean, Android is a growing OS, and if you can develop a quality app you have the potential for more users, and IOS also has a large user base, The are no 'thrills' that one has over the other, but if you want to develop for IOS you must be using a Mac with xcode installed, otherwise to develop android you need the SDK and eclipse which is available on most major OS's (Windows, Mac, Linux)
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OK!! in your experience how can I start developing android from the very beggining????

Gen1usw0rk said:
I Didn't try any language until now!!!
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The main question you should be asking then, is weather you want to learn Objective C or Java, Both can be used for non iOS/android things and one day you might want to try something PC based using one of the languages you learn
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Gen1usw0rk said:
OK!! in your experience how can I start developing android from the very beggining????
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Either a course in college, Orrr, online tutorials, I reccoment checking out thenewboston and mybringback for video tut's both are useful

Gen1usw0rk said:
OK!! in your experience how can I start developing android from the very beggining????
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Honestly not being funny here. Get a dummies guide, since you're starting from scratch. It's a MASSIVE field that you're entering and there's years and years worth of learning ahead of you, if you want to be any good. This isn't gonna happen overnight, and it won't happen easily.

The main question you should be asking then, is weather you want to learn Objective C or Java, Both can be used for non iOS/android things and one day you might want to try something PC based using one of the languages you learn
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Which is more powerful in your opinion????

Archer said:
Honestly not being funny here. Get a dummies guide, since you're starting from scratch. It's a MASSIVE field that you're entering and there's years and years worth of learning ahead of you, if you want to be any good. This isn't gonna happen overnight, and it won't happen easily.
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I already have android development for dummies but it tells you to buy xml and java books??

Gen1usw0rk said:
I already have android development for dummies but it tells you to buy xml and java books??
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If it's telling you to get a Java book then it's not a very good "Android for dummies" book. Xml is very straight forward and there's more than enough online to sort you out with that. It's only a way of structuring data, anyway.
The only real answer to your question is another question. What platform do you want to develop on?
The language and platform are irrelevant to the amount of fun or anguish that you will face while developing software.

Archer said:
If it's telling you to get a Java book then it's not a very good "Android for dummies" book. Xml is very straight forward and there's more than enough online to sort you out with that. It's only a way of structuring data, anyway.
The only real answer to your question is another question. What platform do you want to develop on?
The language and platform are irrelevant to the amount of fun or anguish that you will face while developing software.
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I think I want to develop android!!

Gen1usw0rk said:
Which is more powerful in your opinion????
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I don't know much about Objective C but afaik (Someone correct me? ) it's based on C#/C++ so picking up those languages could be easier, Java can be used in Applets on the web, PC programs and games (eg. Minecraft) but, I think the same can be done with C++
And the reason the Dummy book told you to get the others is because the Android one is telling you how to use the java you should already know, but don't so that it can be more in detail, also I would say maybe skimp the xml one as it's mainly fairly simple in android as far as my experience is with it anyway (not much))

MacaronyMax said:
I don't know much about Objective C but afaik (Someone correct me? ) it's based on C#/C++ so picking up those languages could be easier, Java can be used in Applets on the web, PC programs and games (eg. Minecraft) but, I think the same can be done with C++
And the reason the Dummy book told you to get the others is because the Android one is telling you how to use the java you should already know, but don't so that it can be more in detail, also I would say maybe skimp the xml one as it's mainly fairly simple in android as far as my experience is with it anyway (not much))
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What language did you really tried to develop???

AppReal said:
IMO developing android is easier because almost all tools are free if you've got PC. To develop ios you should have Mac what is additional cost.
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I know that mac costs money
But I got a mac and xCode became free now!!!

Gen1usw0rk said:
What language did you really tried to develop???
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I've tried a lil bit of many All extremely basic level so I have no idea what they're like at a more complicated level
But I have tried both Objective C and Android, I preffered the structure of the objective C and imo it looks more clean when coding, but Java I got further with

MacaronyMax said:
I don't know much about Objective C but afaik (Someone correct me? ) it's based on C#/C++ so picking up those languages could be easier, Java can be used in Applets on the web, PC programs and games (eg. Minecraft) but, I think the same can be done with C++
And the reason the Dummy book told you to get the others is because the Android one is telling you how to use the java you should already know, but don't so that it can be more in detail, also I would say maybe skimp the xml one as it's mainly fairly simple in android as far as my experience is with it anyway (not much))
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Nearly, but the wrong way round. C begets C++ begets C#. C++ is the language of choice for most developers that want to communicate directly with hardware. Other languages tend to actually be writting in C or C++ and therefore only have wrappers for the really low-level functions.
But yeah, any C based language or Java can be used to develop apps on PC, Linux, Mac, so they're both good ways to go. Java for Android means learning Java as well as the Android framework, whereas C for iPhone means learning C and the iPhone framework. Both come with their benefits and drawbacks, but personally I think Java is easier to learn than C, purely because it's not as deep. Saying that though, I've never looked at objective C or the iPhone framework. I just know C/C++ from old days.

I wanted to develop android first but when I read this I changed my mind and got spinning my mind!!!!xD

Gen1usw0rk said:
I wanted to develop android first but when I read this I changed my mind and got spinning my mind!!!!xD
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Lol - that's some trolling going on right there! Very misleading article too.

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I don't have coding knowledge bro, I want to learn coding for Android and Java as it is required for Android but, I heard that Android will be converted to C#, So if I learn now, I'll have to learn C# again..

mcreokhan said:
I don't have coding knowledge bro, I want to learn coding for Android and Java as it is required for Android but, I heard that Android will be converted to C#, So if I learn now, I'll have to learn C# again..
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Well.. no.. android won't be converted (there's only a version using c# instead of java), at least in the next versions
However, creating an app like that is pretty simple, you should try

mcreokhan said:
I don't have coding knowledge bro, I want to learn coding for Android and Java as it is required for Android but, I heard that Android will be converted to C#, So if I learn now, I'll have to learn C# again..
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We all have to start from somewhere. In any case, you need some basic knowledge of multiple languages if you're going to be working cross-platform. There are porting tools available which can help you along the way. Simply put, there are no real future prospects with Conduit and similar tools. You create an app that looks like the million other ones made on Conduit, you might make a quick buck, but that's it.

Need to learn the android development... From basics....

Hi,
First of all thank you so much for starting a forum for learning the Android Development.
I am very much interested in learning android, and i have gone through the official android developers site, and downloaded the SDK.
But i am stuck there, coz i am very new to the Linux/Unix part. I would like to learn more about that, but i do not want to learn programming unless it's necessary. I know it will take a long long time to learn that. So can anyone help me with the app development or fixing/understanding ROM/Kernels.
Sorry if i am being too much jumpy in the starting itself, It's because i do not know where/how to start.
Thanks,
Les

lesfauves said:
Hi,
First of all thank you so much for starting a forum for learning the Android Development.
I am very much interested in learning android, and i have gone through the official android developers site, and downloaded the SDK.
But i am stuck there, coz i am very new to the Linux/Unix part. I would like to learn more about that, but i do not want to learn programming unless it's necessary. I know it will take a long long time to learn that. So can anyone help me with the app development or fixing/understanding ROM/Kernels.
Sorry if i am being too much jumpy in the starting itself, It's because i do not know where/how to start.
Thanks,
Les
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Unfortunately without learning programming, you will find it difficult to do any app development and kernel understanding or fixing.
Programming is key to both of these. So although you don't want to, have a look at some of the resources out there on how to learn to program.
Apps are written in java, kernel code is mostly C.
Maybe this helps? I think failing to start by learning to program will just leave you disappointed.

If it's okay, I'd like to suggest something.
@lesfauves
For kernel development, you really need to learn C, C+, C++ etc. C is the most important language here. However if you're gonna build vanilla kernels (with no modifications whatsoever), a simple guide should do it. Modifying source code requires knowledge of C (and maybe some other languages) as pulser_g2 has said.
For app development, you need to know the basics of Java. It's a must. Otherwise you'll end up getting nowhere.
For ROMs, you need to have a good understanding of both Java and C (and some other languages).
You can learn these online. I'm learning C myself. It's really easy.
Hope I helped.
sgt. meow

I too want to learn android development, just dont know where to start. Been waiting for xda university to open up for this very purpose. now I went through the site and still have a couple questions. I see that learning C is fundamental, where would you guys suggest would be the best place to learn? i was hoping for something like codeacademy, they dont have C though. Also, which distribution of linux would you guys suggest to install?

If you just want to dive in, and have fun creating small Android apps, learning Android concepts as you go, I highly recommend MIT App Inventor (AI): http://appinventor.mit.edu/ . It used to be Google AI but Google wanted to focus on other things.
I have decades of experience in Unix & Linux low level mostly C software development, but was new to Android & Java in Feb. 2011. App Inventor was a great intro to Android concepts, but it seems almost impossible to make commercial quality apps of any size with it.
So after a few months I dove into Java with the Android SDK & the concepts I learned with AI transferred well.
If you want to run Linux on your PC, which is a great way to learn Linux in general, Ubuntu remains quite popular, but a lot of us techy types have moved to Mint. I'm still on Ubuntu but will likely try Mint at some point.
The original and seminal book on C language is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language . It was a great intro for me back in the 1980's. But many C++ people will tell you learning C first may mess you up for C++. I never really caught on to C++ and don't care now as Java is IMO better.
This is the seminal book for C++: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C++_Programming_Language
In general I think C is better for kernel and low level Android NDK stuff; C is the language of the kernel. For higher level Java of course, using Eclipse as an IDE since it still is the most widely used IDE I think.

Any good sites or tutorials for learning Linux????????????/

l0lh4rd said:
Any good sites or tutorials for learning Linux????????????/
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http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/

sgt. meow said:
If it's okay, I'd like to suggest something.
@lesfauves
For kernel development, you really need to learn C, C+, C++ etc. C is the most important language here. However if you're gonna build vanilla kernels (with no modifications whatsoever), a simple guide should do it. Modifying source code requires knowledge of C (and maybe some other languages) as pulser_g2 has said.
For app development, you need to know the basics of Java. It's a must. Otherwise you'll end up getting nowhere.
For ROMs, you need to have a good understanding of both Java and C (and some other languages).
You can learn these online. I'm learning C myself. It's really easy.
Hope I helped.
sgt. meow
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I wanted to to help my phone community and my self of course...from where you can learn c online??i know my way with pc i make some roms from my community but i need to start learning to compile from source!!! share your links if you can thanks!!

Lynda.com
pikachukaki said:
I wanted to to help my phone community and my self of course...from where you can learn c online??i know my way with pc i make some roms from my community but i need to start learning to compile from source!!! share your links if you can thanks!!
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A great site that I use to learn with for web design and development is Lynda.com which has a good amount of C tutorials and learning. It isn't free but a subscription is worth the site. There is a huge amount of information, tutorials, and learning that can be done there.

Go look at my post in this forum section.! May help you
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Thats great but remember that i study pc hardware and i dont have none of programming knowlage at all!!!i once try to learn basic but i get bored cause i dont needed then

pikachukaki said:
Thats great but remember that i study pc hardware and i dont have none of programming knowlage at all!!!i once try to learn basic but i get bored cause i dont needed then
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Aaaaaah gotcha
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Search for newboston.org in Google it has tutorial + forums for every language + android app development too must see website for me! Enjoy development
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Ok lets say i want to learn how to make a device tree for my device cause noone make it...then compile aosp or cm and make it a usable rom for a device...to go to a bookstore to buy a book in my language to remove the possibility of wrong learning...what book to buy??java, c , c++??

This is a great idea, and as i have just started learning C at university (And Java next year woo!) i will be visiting this alot for reference and tutorials. I still find C hard to get grips with but i do have a basic understanding of it. I also like messing around with kernel's and stuff on android and really want to make my own ROM or kernel soon!
So thanks XDA and everyone involved in this !

pikachukaki said:
Ok lets say i want to learn how to make a device tree for my device cause noone make it...then compile aosp or cm and make it a usable rom for a device...to go to a bookstore to buy a book in my language to remove the possibility of wrong learning...what book to buy??java, c , c++??
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If you want to learn how to make a device tree check outthis guide, then when your ready to try compiling AOSP and Cyanogenmod check out this guide. If you want to learn to compile ROM's and then I would recommend a book on Linux and C for programming kernels such as C All-in-One Desk Reference. On the other hand if you want to program applications a good Java book is important and I would recommend Head First Java. Hope this clears things up, let me know if you still have questions.

shimp208 said:
If you want to learn how to make a device tree check outthis guide, then when your ready to try compiling AOSP and Cyanogenmod check out this guide. If you want to learn to compile ROM's and then I would recommend a book on Linux and C for programming kernels such as C All-in-One Desk Reference. On the other hand if you want to program applications a good Java book is important and I would recommend Head First Java. Hope this clears things up, let me know if you still have questions.
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My point is basically to learn how to create the device tree and then compile any rom i can and hope that i can use fixes from others and hints from others...im not really interesting of making an application!!

can read my guide here

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can read my guide here
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Please stop spamming your link across each thread. And tone down the MASSIVE text in the thread - it just looks unprofessional.

so, where do I start? C or C++?
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Wanna be a Developer

Hi friends,
I like programming...
I'm intrested in making Android apps..
Knows C , C++ and started learning Java.
Any Tips please??
Confused
Wish i can create my on OS some day ​

Getting Started
You are already well on your way knowing some other programming languages and starting with Java. I would go ahead and download Android Studio, which I prefer over Eclipse. Find some tutorials and start going through them step by step (I suggest Vogella). I also recommend The Big Nerd Ranch Guide. It is a great book for getting started. Best of luck to you!

cook348 said:
You are already well on your way knowing some other programming languages and starting with Java. I would go ahead and download Android Studio, which I prefer over Eclipse. Find some tutorials and start going through them step by step (I suggest Vogella). I also recommend The Big Nerd Ranch Guide. It is a great book for getting started. Best of luck to you!
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If you already know C and C++ then Java will be piece of cake then. As suggested by other Voggela is nice place to start! Also download Android Studio since Google will stop supporting Eclipse by the end of the year.

well u just need to be well trained in java concepts..mainly focus on activity lifecycle..thread..asyntasks..handler..kindly read the documentation from android developer site..first learn the basic ui elements and implementations..subscribe to the youtube channel called thenewboston..u ill get good knowledge from the channel..if u have doubts contact me..
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dear,
You can Find all tutorials of Android in Standard site:
developer.android.com