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It's apparent some carriers are not supporting the Android Market.
For those that don't have access to the Market and want access to apps, have you tried getting SAM (app store) client for your G1 from SlideME.org?
http:/slideme.org/sam2.apk
Anyone in the world can use SAM to safely buy and download with no limitations and without entering any sensitive info such as credit card details from your phone.
The only thing is that you will not see as many apps as you would on the Market, but with users help & input one day developers will realize that stocking Android Market alone does not do any good for marketing their apps to the international communities. Not to mention that the rest of the world will be hesitant to provide even their shopping habits to google.
So, you could look for apps on SlideME or Cyrket that has all the apps on Market and contact the developer and ask them to get their act together to stock other stores such as SlideME.org for this exact reason. Not everyone has access to the Android Market!!!
Follow apps from http://twitter.com/slideme if you like.
Here is an earlier announcement from SlideME team: http://www.prweb.com/releases/android/slideme/prweb2035414.htm
I am in India. and i was missing buying the apps..but not anymore..There aren't as many apps as on the market but then its just the begining...
thank you.
do we get automatic upgrades etc from you like the market provides- i looked at using slideme but wasnt sure how you would get the free upgrades for apps u have already paid for...i am in australia.
I haven't heard promising things about SlideMe's DRM solution, which appears to constantly contact the Slideme store when normal apps downloaded from Slideme are running, and not just the SlideMe market.
It looks good, and will probably be accepting Paypal. Nice alternative!
So what are developers to do? Well, recently I bashed on the SlideLOCK in a previous post… Though - the more I looked at it, this seems like the best option for developers to protect their applications. Though, hopefully google will remedy this solution and fast. Until then though, strike-one google market.
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http://strazzere.com/blog/?p=185
The last time I used Slideme it never showed updated or new apps so I had no idea when to look. Has this since been changed?
yeah- i want to know as well if you get automatic updates for each program bought?
We do updates for any downloaded apps. Maybe you have tried an old version of SAM.
Hello,
I live in Poland and we still can't buy paid android apps, which really p*sses me off. Is there an alternative way to buy from the market? I don't want to use pirated software.
Pretty sure if you email the Dec of app you want they will work something out with you. Also try market enabler
robzonpl said:
Hello,
I live in Poland and we still can't buy paid android apps, which really p*sses me off. Is there an alternative way to buy from the market? I don't want to use pirated software.
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Root phone, install Market Enabler which will allow your phone to pretend that it is in a different market (ie one with paid apps available). Works great. I am in Canada, which does not have paid apps yet, and use it to buy apps. This was the main reason I rooted my phone.
I live in Norway and we don't have access to paid apps yet.
I did install Market Enabler, and got access, but when I'm buying, after I've input credicard information, nothing happens. The phone tries to connect and eventually I get an errormessage that a connection could not be etablished (or something in that effect)
I chose Market Enabler 3 (beta) as I'm using a Hero ROM. (Old version does not work), and I choose o2 (de) as provider.
Any tips?
tried using Slideme, it is an alternative market that works outside of the android market.
Thanks for the replies! I rooted my phone finally (using flashrec) and by the way updated to some hero ROM (myhero-1.1.1 to be exact) and used Market Enabler. Works really well so far, I haven't had time to try to actually purchase anything yet, but I can see paid apps now.
I love the HTC Sense look and feel, but I there are some bugs that weren't present in the vanilla magic (skippy music, worse jabber integration, etc).
It's amazing how easy it is to root and flash your phone these days, I remember last time I was thinking about it the howto scared the hell out of me. And I'm a developer (just a lazy one).
Just purchased my frist app on Android Market
There was one issue, maybe this will help someone: When I entered my credit card details on my phone it didn't work - there was some kind of server error. I had to go to google checkout using browser on my computer, enter my cc details and then I was able to buy apps off android market.
betelgeuse74 said:
I live in Norway and we don't have access to paid apps yet.
I did install Market Enabler, and got access, but when I'm buying, after I've input credicard information, nothing happens. The phone tries to connect and eventually I get an errormessage that a connection could not be etablished (or something in that effect)
Any tips?
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Try setting up your Google checkout account using a PC based browser. Once you do that you should only be shown the price and have to confirm to buy.
That worked for me.
bjtheone said:
Root phone, install Market Enabler which will allow your phone to pretend that it is in a different market (ie one with paid apps available). Works great. I am in Canada, which does not have paid apps yet, and use it to buy apps. This was the main reason I rooted my phone.
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i did this and it doesn't work in Sweden...
First, yes I read the FAQ's before posting. There are several apps that aTD says have updates available, but the Market does not list the newer versions. I know the FAQ says to e-mail the developer, but I guess my question is why are updates available that are not published in the Market? It's not that the app is not in the Market at all...it's there and has had updates in the past. Only now apparently a new version is available that is not listed in the Market. I've e-mailed several app developers and will post here if I get an explanation.
Also, one of the apps aTD says needs to be updated is the Market itself. I have version 1.66, and it says 1.71 is the latest version. Can I download that from Google somehow, or is the Market version a built-in part of the ROM?
atrackdog relies on updates from phones with atrackdog installed. Say I'm developing a cool, new app. I release version 1.0 on the market for everyone to use. I'm testing version 1.1 on my phone and have given the apk file to a few friends to test for me as well before I release it to the market in general (I don't want a thousand e-mails from people saying my app is br0x0rz, so I have a small test group locally.) If one of my testers has atrackdog installed, it will faithfully upload the new version information to atrackdog's servers, telling all other atrackdog users that my app has an update available...whether it's in the market or not.
Thanks for the detailed explanation! Now why the aTrackDog website couldn't explain it that concisely, I don't know.
Does that same scenario also apply to the Market? It seems less likely to me that a Google app would be on tester's phones that also have aTD installed.
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atrackdog relies on updates from phones with atrackdog installed. Say I'm developing a cool, new app. I release version 1.0 on the market for everyone to use. I'm testing version 1.1 on my phone and have given the apk file to a few friends to test for me as well before I release it to the market in general (I don't want a thousand e-mails from people saying my app is br0x0rz, so I have a small test group locally.) If one of my testers has atrackdog installed, it will faithfully upload the new version information to atrackdog's servers, telling all other atrackdog users that my app has an update available...whether it's in the market or not.
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Ah, ok. That makes perfect sense then. Thanks for the explanation.
About the market itself, I'm going to guess that different Android devices might have different versions of the market on board. If Google tweaked the market to be Moto-droid-worthy, they might have used a different number and atrackdog will show it. I'm sure about my answer in the above post. I'm just guessing on this one.
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About the market itself, I'm going to guess that different Android devices might have different versions of the market on board. If Google tweaked the market to be Moto-droid-worthy, they might have used a different number and atrackdog will show it. I'm sure about my answer in the above post. I'm just guessing on this one.
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That also makes sense. I suppose the Nexus (for example) would likely have a newer version of Market and that would be why aTD picks up on it.
After using it for a few days, I don't really see the usefulness of aTD from a practicality standpoint. Every app on my phone that aTD says has an update available, isn't really available on my device (except for SlideME, which is unimportant to me). It would be more useful if the app detected the user's device, and only showed updates applicable to that particular phone.
That's true. When atrackdog was released, the market app didn't give notifications when updates were available. Also, at the time, there wasn't much on the market itself, several 3rd party markets (like slideme) were also out there, and people outside the US didn't have market access anyway. It filled a gap that's largely not there anymore (for US users). I know several countries still either don't have market access or no access to paid apps from the market, so it may be very useful to them.
It's useful for a few apps which post their betas on google code, etc, such as Wireless Tether...
Hey everyone,
I tried to buy World Of Goo on the market today, but have been struggling with it! I manage to successfully buy it, but when downloading I get told that I have "insufficient space". The way I understand it, this is likely due to the 30mb limit imposed by the Galaxy S? This may be completely wrong, but after a brief search that appears to be my problem. I've tried the following:
1) Wiping cache (no change)
2) Wiping Dalvik-cache (no change)
3) Rolling back to Market 2.3.6 (didn't even give me an error, just didn't download)
4) A script which created a larger virtual cache (script ran into an error and didn't run)
5) Any combination of the above you can think of
Does anyone have any ideas on what I could try next? The demo installed and ran beautifully, I was really excited to play the full version!
World of Goo and 30MB limit on Market
Hi,
Same problem here... I do remember that AirAttack HD had the same problem - it was sold in two parts but afterwards Dev did something so that the package would be down-loadable on SGS via Android Market. At this point I have only found demo apk and it installs correctly (outside Market), but I would like to purchase full version and RUN IT.
Demo works fast and flawlessly.
I have a strange idea - buy a full version on web Andorid Market, find a full game apk and then connect it to Market via "Market Doctor" in Titanium Backup...
Just tried to buy it on the web-based market, but it says it's incompatible. Besides, that's a bit too close to piracy
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Well I did change my JVS to CyanogenMOD 7.1 and it works... I was able to buy World of Goo in the Market, it works...
JohnM_83 said:
Well I did change my JVS to CyanogenMOD 7.1 and it works... I was able to buy World of Goo in the Market, it works...
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Yes, CM7 doesn't have that issue. There are also successful ways of creating a temporary virtual cache big enough to handle the size. And like someone else said, if you buy the app, download a pirated older version, use Titanium Backup if you need to link it to the market, and then update it to the proper version in the market. It may seem like piracy, but if you're paying for the app this will work.
I had this problem but have now installed the game. I was already on Simplicity ROM and had the Semaphore kernel installed, this has an add on that allows virtual 50Mb cache. This didn't help in the Market though.
I had to go to their own website and buy it with Paypal, then getting emailed a link for download. Great game!
Same Here
I'm so pissed! I should have known better than to order a game this big off the Android Market. I ordered the game using my PC and I thought the game was going to be sent to my phone straight from 2D boys because that's what my order e-mail said.
But then I got an error message from the market telling me the "not enough space" crap. I bought the game! Then insult to injury, I discovered that I could have bought the game directly from 2d Boys off their web site. They are set up now for Android phone orders! I e-mailed them and hope to hear back soon. I told them that they are going to be flooded with complaints because the market is broken.
Same problem here, I have tried everything that is mentioned in the first post without success, however I was playing the demo past week in MIUI without a problem, now I'm on CM 7.1 final. I sent an email to the support address but there is no answer yet. Any other idea?
2DBoys did get back to me and they are aware of the problem with the Android market. I e-mailed the guy my order # and he refunded my money. I asked him how downloading straight from 2Dboys web site worked, but I haven't heard back yet. I'm not going to try until I know it's going to work. Must say they were fast with getting back to me.
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2DBoys did get back to me and they are aware of the problem with the Android market. I e-mailed the guy my order # and he refunded my money. I asked him how downloading straight from 2Dboys web site worked, but I haven't heard back yet. I'm not going to try until I know it's going to work. Must say they were fast with getting back to me.
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Same here - they were really quick in recognizing the issue and even sent me a dl-link as if I had bought it straight from them. Really great support.
Like you I really can't wrap my head around why this only happens with Market downloads the install from 2DBoys was no problem.
I've seen 100 explanations for this issue, and I'm still not sure what is causing it.
Ps. Now the World-of-Goo wants to update in Android Market (even thou I ended up dl-ing it straight from 2DBoys), but if I try it just says I haven't purchased it... Ds.
I will keep this post updated if working solutions are shared.
Native Solutions (with push notifications, location services, google login):
None so far.
Virtual Machine environments:
Lighthouse (Only working for C636 region, not C432 euro-edition)
OurPlay (Chinese-only interface, but uses system languge for installed apps)
DualSpace (loses ability to install apps/updates after a day)
VMOS (old android v7, with virtual root and Xposed)
VPhoneGaGa (old Android v7, with virtual root)
Since many threads have confusion about methods which only work for Chinese version, please help confirm GMS installation methods for the international version, so we can test properly. Because Google apps are what many of our coworkers, colleagues, and friends use we unfortunately can't just abandon them. Therefore, only solutions that work with login to Google services (not just GMS but actual Google authentication, like for Gmail, Google Voice, YouTube Music, Meet, Chat, Maps, Calendar, Photos, etc.) will be accepted.
Apparently MicroG only works for apps which don't need to use Google login, has anyone found a real solution? Is there any downside to install Chinese firmware onto the phone (will OTA updates still work)? https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...o-international-mate-40-pro-possible.4196699/
While we wait for the hackers and modders to work around Google's ban, let's…
Contact app developers about publishing to the Huawei AppGallery and share their replies
See how we can help figure out solutions
Share alternatives we are using to the Google(-dependent) services we have been locked in to (I will add best to this list)
Google Alternatives
Meet/Duo:
https://meet.jit.si/
Google Chat:
https://element.io/ (like Slack, MS Teams, Discord)
https://signal.org/ (like FB Messenger, WhatsApp)
Google Maps:
https://osmand.net/
Authenticator:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.shadowice.flocke.andotp/
I think we will have to wait a while for a Way that works on the International Model, there's literally no working Way right now.
I got used to use Outlook for my Gmail Account, YouTube Vanced which is better then the Normal YouTube App and i do use Google Maps but i never logged in there so it's not a problem for me. But of course a working Way would be nice.
And afaik you can't just Flash the Chinese Rom so easily...
I'm still wondering why the International Version is so much more locked up Software wise then the Chinese one
Hi..
I have the international version and you are right, the Chinese method does not work with this model.
I have sped the last 7 days with this phone and almost tried all combinations of installations and nothing works.. Seems I can't get the App "G" (whatever its called) to work my the device and I don't want to downgrade the OS. I just can't believe that a giant like Huawei just gave up and didn't leave any backdoors for us to use the phone. in my opinion, Huawei mobile phone business is doomed. its unfortunate for a perfect phone to lack basic apps just because of Google and US gaining on the company.
Hopefully, things will change once TRUMP is pushed out of office soon.
Do you have guidance on the last version of Maps ??
I have it just on 10.49.3 version ...
Huawei is way far from being doomed, they are very successful in Asia where nobody is obsessed with Google. There is life without Google but it's not as comfortable as all western users are used to.
Actually I would blame Google for being so closed and not allowing proper app support without GMS and developers that rely so much on Google services like Firebase. How is it possible that a banking app is not able to function without GMS? Or Microsoft Teams still complaining that GMS is not available... Big part of the world is too dependent on a couple of US based companies...
Also even without Trump there is a very small chance that anything will change in regards to US ban and sanctions on Huawei.
App "G" is called LZPlay. Here is a good read what it actually does:
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I am quite comfortable without GMS and I still use some of the Google apps. WebApps are actually quite decent: Google Fotos, Google Drive etc.
Now when it comes to GMS implementation on Huawei. Not sure what will just waiting change, who do you think will change anything?
Only way to install GMS without Google approval would be to use MDM (mobile device management) app that functions similarly to LZPlay but is owned by a developer who is not hiding as it is a case with LZPlay. But I don't think that Huawei will now approve a signed build of any app that will try to use those APIs mentioned in the article.
In China they can do whatever they want with the FW but in rest of the world they comply with the ban. Also it seems that Google specifically needs to white-list device fingeprints. MicroG should in theory work with new Huawei phones even including log-in but it does not, exactly due to the missing white list.
RTFM, push app developers to work with HMS and educate yourself on what is really the problem. Alternatively just wait
chortya said:
Huawei is way far from being doomed, they are very successful in Asia where nobody is obsessed with Google. There is life without Google but it's not as comfortable as all western users are used to.
Actually I would blame Google for being so closed and not allowing proper app support without GMS and developers that rely so much on Google services like Firebase. How is it possible that a banking app is not able to function without GMS? Or Microsoft Teams still complaining that GMS is not available... Big part of the world is too dependent on a couple of US based companies...
Also even without Trump there is a very small chance that anything will change in regards to US ban and sanctions on Huawei.
App "G" is called LZPlay. Here is a good read what it actually does:
Medium – Where good ideas find you.
Medium is an open platform where readers find dynamic thinking, and where expert and undiscovered voices can share their writing on any topic.
medium.com
@topjohnwu/huaweis-undocumented-apis-a-backdoor-to-reinstall-google-services-c3a5dd71a7cd
I am quite comfortable without GMS and I still use some of the Google apps. WebApps are actually quite decent: Google Fotos, Google Drive etc.
Now when it comes to GMS implementation on Huawei. Not sure what will just waiting change, who do you think will change anything?
Only way to install GMS without Google approval would be to use MDM (mobile device management) app that functions similarly to LZPlay but is owned by a developer who is not hiding as it is a case with LZPlay. But I don't think that Huawei will now approve a signed build of any app that will try to use those APIs mentioned in the article.
In China they can do whatever they want with the FW but in rest of the world they comply with the ban. Also it seems that Google specifically needs to white-list device fingeprints. MicroG should in theory work with new Huawei phones even including log-in but it does not, exactly due to the missing white list.
RTFM, push app developers to work with HMS and educate yourself on what is really the problem. Alternatively just wait
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Totally disagree that in Asia nobody is obsessed with Google. China doesn't represent Asia. Most countries outside China is using GMS on daily basis. They use G Suite, Gmail in business, Especially during this pandemic time, Google Meet is one of the frequent used App for communication. Not to mention many travelling apps, banking apps are relied on GMS.
You may able to survive without GMS, but just like itchiness, it won't kill you, but it just annoys you all the time.
That is a good statement. But the situation is as it is and simple peasant users like we are will not be able to change it
Any updates on this?
torickray said:
Totally disagree that in Asia nobody is obsessed with Google. China doesn't represent Asia. Most countries outside China is using GMS on daily basis. They use G Suite, Gmail in business, Especially during this pandemic time, Google Meet is one of the frequent used App for communication. Not to mention many travelling apps, banking apps are relied on GMS.
You may able to survive without GMS, but just like itchiness, it won't kill you, but it just annoys you all the time.
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Still waiting.
Yesterday just purchased mate 40 pro international version in Singapore. I tried all the tutorial found online and cannot work. So now I have no choice but using VMOS.
daxter125 said:
I think we will have to wait a while for a Way that works on the International Model, there's literally no working Way right now.
I got used to use Outlook for my Gmail Account, YouTube Vanced which is better then the Normal YouTube App and i do use Google Maps but i never logged in there so it's not a problem for me. But of course a working Way would be nice.
And afaik you can't just Flash the Chinese Rom so easily...
I'm still wondering why the International Version is so much more locked up Software wise then the Chinese one
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yes same feeling
Waiting game
banmao said:
Yesterday just purchased mate 40 pro international version in Singapore. I tried all the tutorial found online and cannot work. So now I have no choice but using VMOS.
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Same here
kxra said:
I will keep this post updated if working solutions are shared.
Since many threads have confusion about methods which only work for Chinese version, please help confirm GMS installation methods for international users who need to login to Google services (not just GMS but actual google authentication, like for Play Store, Google Voice, YouTube Music, Meet, Maps, Calendar, etc.) so we can test properly.
MicroG only works for apps which don't need to use Google login apparently, has anyone found a real solution? Is there any downside to install Chinese firmware onto the phone (will OTA updates still work)? https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...o-international-mate-40-pro-possible.4196699/
While we wait for the hackers and modders to work around Google's ban, let's:
Contact app develpoers about supporting the Huawei AppGallery and share their replies
Share alternatives we are using to the Googele(-dependent) services we have been locked in to
See how we can help figure out solutions
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keep this up!
I've purchased Huawei Mate 40 Pro on yesterday, but seems like everyone is facing the same issue when installing GMS using Googlefier that lzplay show message in Chinese that it didn't support for this device. Maybe there's alternative way to reinstall the app again?
latif99 said:
Hi..
I have the international version and you are right, the Chinese method does not work with this model.
I have sped the last 7 days with this phone and almost tried all combinations of installations and nothing works.. Seems I can't get the App "G" (whatever its called) to work my the device and I don't want to downgrade the OS. I just can't believe that a giant like Huawei just gave up and didn't leave any backdoors for us to use the phone. in my opinion, Huawei mobile phone business is doomed. its unfortunate for a perfect phone to lack basic apps just because of Google and US gaining on the company.
Hopefully, things will change once TRUMP is pushed out of office soon.
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but I never see solution that people downgrade (Mate 40 Pro) and install GMS
All GMS installation methods used so far are based on EMUI 10. Mate40 pro has EMUI 11, so nothing will work for now.
Shymmy said:
All GMS installation methods used so far are based on EMUI 10. Mate40 pro has EMUI 11, so nothing will work for now.
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It stil works on the Chinese version Mate40 Pro
I read in a video posted on youtube that a chinese app ourplay its like a chinese version of playstore installs gms for emui 11.
Tried installing the app the only problem is it you can only use the app with a china IP address so i couldnt fully verify if it works or not.
Anybody wanna try for mate 40 international phones?
Installer can be downloaded on their site ourplay.net