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Ok, so i've spent a few hours at this already but let me give as much info as I can. I have read through many threads searching for info. I am no expert but I have had OG Droid, Incredible, and currently Thunderbolt all rooted so I am a novice.
This is my GFs phone and was previously bone stock, never rooted, no Roms nothing. So she gets the update recently and clicks yes and that is where the trouble began, phone constantly reboots and will not go past the language/activation screen. It never once went past that first screen, and she tried the hard reset and the battery pull.
So this is where I took over. I retried the hard reset (power + vol down) and also the battery pull. I also tried to activate in numerous other languages, all cause a reboot.
As per
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1208713.html
I was finally able to get past the activation screen and make some progress. However after about a minute the phone always reboots, no matter what it is doing. I hard reset in the settings menu and that did nothing.
I next followed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326347
and got the phone rooted.
Installed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144951
and than installed CWR 4.0.0.4 ? (not sure the version whatever it comes with) Tested recovery and it it seems to stick even after rebooting several times, which the phone automatically does (maybe its a feature and not a flaw?) So I was unsure of what version of Android was even running because the phone will not allow me to go into about phone it always force closes *com.android.settings* but I figure what the heck and try my luck with a new Rom. I decided on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326542&page=11
So I did the usual. Rebooted into recovery, made a nandroid backup, wiped data, cache, davlik and even did /system for good measure. Than did the install and upon first boot all the same problems are there. It will not activate from the screen, it just reboots the phone eventually. I used the same method above to avoid the screen and now it will boot up and the phone is in fact running an AOSP Rom but it still reboots after about a minute. Oddly enough it also continues to refuse to let me open About Phone, in the settings menu. I also for good measure went into recovery and wiped everything again and also tried fixing permissions in recovery, all to no avail.
At this point I am thinking it is perhaps just a hardware issue, although the phone does not reboot itself in recovery. I would be willing to try a different Rom, however I don't think it would work. I am wondering if anyone has any other suggestions? Should I try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120062
Other info:
What does work is wifi, so i can get on the internet briefly. I can connect to google and get apps from the market.
I am leaving this for a few hours or I may have to re-title the thread "How do you put the LG Revolution back together after throwing it against a wall?"
Currently I'm sad face that you rooted and installed cwm but I think the update bricked it personally. Hopefully S.Meezy will see this as he has stock recovery. I would say just get back to bone stock and get it replaced. If anyone else knows how to get it fixed, my best guesses would be mt or S.Meezy, though adb that might work. I hope it all gets figured out. Someone needs to post stock GB without data or anything for people to flash to if need be. That might fix your issue.
My suggestion is to get the recover the whole phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211295
follow that but use the v6 TOT file. That will revert the phone to out of factory new, with updated radios. If you still have the issue then I would contact Verizon.
If everything works then you can re-run the update to Gingerbread.
Could be a long shot but I remember seeing something a little way back in another forum where a user w the same problem accidentially resolved his issue by restarting w the sd card out. For him it turned out to be a bad or incompatible sd card at the root of the problem.
If you have one in, pull it and restart. Hope thats it for you...
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Well i'm a glutton for punishment so i'm back.
I didn't want to bother with rooting it honestly but I did it out of desperation, figured a total wipe + brand new Rom would surely fix things.
Going to attempt the full recovery.
Tried pulling the SD card, than just the Sim card and finally without anything and none of the combinations worked.
Have you tried downloading a stock ROM to your PC/Mac and dropping that on your SD card and then flashing that ROM, after checking the md5? To me it sounds like your gf just had a bad download.
I think the issue is that you keep trying to flash the bad bits. Just my two cents...
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Honestly you really need to try reflashing the entire phone with one of the TOT files. At this point to me it is clearly not the ROM that is installed. Restoring the phone with one of the TOT files will cleanly overwrite everything on the phone. Takes about 20 minutes or so after you have the program installed and recognizing the phone. Do it and post back.
H.
Haxcid said:
Honestly you really need to try reflashing the entire phone with one of the TOT files. At this point to me it is clearly not the ROM that is installed. Restoring the phone with one of the TOT files will cleanly overwrite everything on the phone. Takes about 20 minutes or so after you have the program installed and recognizing the phone. Do it and post back.
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What he said.
Remember: Absolutely do not, under any circumstance, unplug/turn off your phone once you start that process. It can take awhile, and might look like it froze, but just let it do it's thang.
Sorry for the long read, this is half rant and half question.
Alright, I got a captivate a long time ago (about a year and 3 months ago), loved it, rooted it and installed cyanogenmod as soon as I got home, changed roms and kernals constantly, did whatever I wanted to do.
About 3 months ago my screen stopped working.. So I take it in and they give me a refurb captivate, looked brand new so I didn't mind. However, when I tried to get into recovery it didn't work, the 3-button-method just wouldn't work at all, period, so I try to get it to work, gets stuck in bootloop.. pretty much every time I try to flash a rom something goes wrong and I get stuck in a bootloop but I can usually get into recovery or download mode because I had CWM.
So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
I guess my only option is to usb jig it, but honestly now I'm convinced that the phone is just faulty, I want to run the thing over.
-Pirate said:
So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
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If you would have actually searched you would have known it was a bug in the glitch. There are atleast 40 pages about that.
-Pirate said:
I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
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If you flashed ICS you should know it takes 2 flashes for it to work first time. Having a jig around is always a good idea as well.
-Pirate said:
Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
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Stuff doesn't work as intended. Keep in mind everything is still in dev and not all devices are the same. But you should have searched a little more and it would have ran =/
U def don't need a jig. If it's booting it's not bricked. Try removing battery, start Odin, hold down power and down, plug in and put battery in. This should bring u to download mode.
prbassplayer said:
If you would have actually searched you would have known it was a bug in the glitch. There are atleast 40 pages about that.
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I did start to see a few people with the problem, however many people do not follow up with what fixes their problem, and I did what a few people had said to do.
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If you flashed ICS you should know it takes 2 flashes for it to work first time. Having a jig around is always a good idea as well.
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I should of mentioned that I did flash a few times, 3 total I think, it was getting stuck at boot.
prbassplayer said:
Stuff doesn't work as intended. Keep in mind everything is still in dev and not all devices are the same. But you should have searched a little more and it would have ran =/
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I understand that **** happens but honestly my old captivate could always get into recover mode and download mode no matter what, it's extremely frustrating that something changed with the newer models. One of my questions was what caused the brick? I did nothing wrong from what I see and it was running perfectly until I tried to restart/boot into recovery.
Oh and mbc663, thanks but download mode doesn't work at all, nor does recovery obviously.
I can't say exactly what you are doing. Best advice I can do Re download your .zips Flash back to stock GB and try again.
-Pirate said:
About 3 months ago my screen stopped working.. So I take it in and they give me a refurb captivate, looked brand new so I didn't mind. However, when I tried to get into recovery it didn't work, the 3-button-method just wouldn't work at all, period, so I try to get it to work, gets stuck in bootloop.. pretty much every time I try to flash a rom something goes wrong and I get stuck in a bootloop but I can usually get into recovery or download mode because I had CWM.
So I'm on maxq's rom and it's working great for the past 2 months, decide not to mess with kernals or anything, however today I decided to try ICS, load it up, everything's fine, then I realize my soft keys aren't working, search for awhile, can't find anything, finally just manually start looking through the rom pages, and someone said that if you have the problem to just odin back to stock and try again.
I odin back to stock, but now 3 button combo doesn't work.. So more searching, find that I can run the 3e fix by TRusselo, doesn't work because I need root, more searching on how to root without recovery, find "SuperOneClick", root with superoneclick, then run 3e fix, everything is working fine, I check my email and load the ICS files onto SD card, go to restart and go into recovery mode.. Bricked, stuck in a bootloop, won't go to recovery, won't go to download, nothing.
Why the **** was I able to do anything I wanted with my old captivate, but if I even root this one it bricks? And what did I do to even brick it? I only ran the 2 programs and both of them worked flawlessly.
I guess my only option is to usb jig it, but honestly now I'm convinced that the phone is just faulty, I want to run the thing over.
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Last year, I had issues with my original Cap, and got a "new" one. I learned that the bulk of the Caps going out as replacements are referbs. The one I got was a 1008 build, and does not have 3 button recovery. There are minor differences with each and every Cap that's out there. That's why some have issues with ROM's and some don't, some can over clock like crazy, and some can't at all. My guess is you have a 1008 as well, but that really doesn't matter. You just have a different device and as you seem to already have learned.
It sounds like there is more research you need to do. Even though the devices are a bit different, if you are having issues with ROM's loading, then I would say it's more of a procedure issue, than one with your device.
My procedure, is,
Remove SD/Micro SD
Odin1 Click to Stock JF6, and Master Clear(This will erase EVERYTHING)
Root with One-Click Root
Use Sideload Wonder Machine to install ROM Manager, copy update.zip and 3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
Once in recovery I install the 3buttonFix, and install my new ROM
For me this has proven to be a very good method versus going from one ROM to another. The Master Clear cleans EVERYTHING off of your SD, so there is no chance for anything to corrupt your new install. Anytime I read a post of a install gone FUBAR, USUALLY a Flash To Stock/Master Clear (FTS/MC) fixes it
Before using Odin 1 Click, check your devices build number!! If it is higher than 1012, I would NOT recommend using 1 click, there is a higher chance of hard brick on the newer devices
Kangi...if you flash a firmware package without bootloaders, you won't have to do the 3 button fix every time. And if you keep a copy of the update.zip on your pc you don't have to even root, let alone bother with side loading ROM manager.
Cezar has a no boots jf6 and after you run that, you can still use master clear in one click.
Sounds like you got one of the refurbs that is missing the SBL. Have you looked at this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
I've not had this problem myself but it sounds like that might help. If I remember reading correctly, once this is flashed it should stick as long as you don't flash any other bootloaders on top of it.
Its not missing the sbl. The sbl it has doesn't respond to key combos. Derpa sherpa moment for samsung I guess?
Rofl yeah...if it was missing the sbl it would be fuggin bricked!
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Kangi...if you flash a firmware package without bootloaders, you won't have to do the 3 button fix every time. And if you keep a copy of the update.zip on your pc you don't have to even root, let alone bother with side loading ROM manager.
Cezar has a no boots jf6 and after you run that, you can still use master clear in one click.
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I know, thanks. I'm such a creature of habit, I started doing it like this a bit over a year ago, and has worked flawlessly for me(just jinxed myself!) so I never saw a reason to "fix what aint broke".
I'll take a look at Cezar's thanks!
Yeah, missing SBL was a poor choice of words. My bad.
kangi26 said:
Last year, I had issues with my original Cap, and got a "new" one. I learned that the bulk of the Caps going out as replacements are referbs. The one I got was a 1008 build, and does not have 3 button recovery. There are minor differences with each and every Cap that's out there. That's why some have issues with ROM's and some don't, some can over clock like crazy, and some can't at all. My guess is you have a 1008 as well, but that really doesn't matter. You just have a different device and as you seem to already have learned.
It sounds like there is more research you need to do. Even though the devices are a bit different, if you are having issues with ROM's loading, then I would say it's more of a procedure issue, than one with your device.
My procedure, is,
Remove SD/Micro SD
Odin1 Click to Stock JF6, and Master Clear(This will erase EVERYTHING)
Root with One-Click Root
Use Sideload Wonder Machine to install ROM Manager, copy update.zip and 3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
Once in recovery I install the 3buttonFix, and install my new ROM
For me this has proven to be a very good method versus going from one ROM to another. The Master Clear cleans EVERYTHING off of your SD, so there is no chance for anything to corrupt your new install. Anytime I read a post of a install gone FUBAR, USUALLY a Flash To Stock/Master Clear (FTS/MC) fixes it
Before using Odin 1 Click, check your devices build number!! If it is higher than 1012, I would NOT recommend using 1 click, there is a higher chance of hard brick on the newer devices
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I didn't think anyone else was going to reply to this thread, whoops.
Thank you for helping me, but I'm still having trouble.
Rom manager doesn't show up in Market, Sideload wonder machine tells me [INSTALL FAILED OLDER SDK] with any apk of Rom manager I find.
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3buttonFix to my SD, then reboot into recovery
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How do you reboot into recovery when 3buttonfix hasn't been applied yet?
This sucks and is extremely frustrating, I feel like my captivate is just trolling me.
-Pirate said:
I didn't think anyone else was going to reply to this thread, whoops.
Thank you for helping me, but I'm still having trouble.
Rom manager doesn't show up in Market, Sideload wonder machine tells me [INSTALL FAILED OLDER SDK] with any apk of Rom manager I find.
How do you reboot into recovery when 3buttonfix hasn't been applied yet?
This sucks and is extremely frustrating, I feel like my captivate is just trolling me.
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When I get home later tonight I'll link you everything you'll need. Again, VERY important, what is your build number? If it's 1012 or higher, don't use Odin 1 click
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kangi26 said:
When I get home later tonight I'll link you everything you'll need. Again, VERY important, what is your build number? If it's 1012 or higher, don't use Odin 1 click
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Ok, finally got it working, I did exactly what you said, I found the rom manager 3.00.002 or whatever and that worked with sideloader, it took some messing around with but I'm running ICS now, thank you so much man, you've helped me so much, and now I can change roms and keep up to date without worrying about constantly soft-bricking.
As for my build number, I'm not sure, the only thing I see under build number in settings is: "IML74k"
-Pirate said:
Ok, finally got it working, I did exactly what you said, I found the rom manager 3.00.002 or whatever and that worked with sideloader, it took some messing around with but I'm running ICS now, thank you so much man, you've helped me so much, and now I can change roms and keep up to date without worrying about constantly soft-bricking.
As for my build number, I'm not sure, the only thing I see under build number in settings is: "IML74k"
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The build number is actually under your battery, and looks like 10.06, 10.07, 10.08 and so on. It is the production date
Edit** And as a side note, do NOT try to use the 3buttonFix with a GB ROM, it WILL brick your phone in a really bad way. ONLY use it with 2.1 or 2.2
kangi26 said:
The build number is actually under your battery, and looks like 10.06, 10.07, 10.08 and so on. It is the production date
Edit** And as a side note, do NOT try to use the 3buttonFix with a GB ROM, it WILL brick your phone in a really bad way. ONLY use it with 2.1 or 2.2
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Is it weird that I don't have a build number? It seems I can't post pictures without a few more posts, maybe this will work: deleted
And thanks for the warning on the 3buttonfix, I'm going to have to read more about bootloaders though, I don't understand what you and studacris were talking about earlier in the thread, haha.
-Pirate said:
Is it weird that I don't have a build number? It seems I can't post pictures without a few more posts, maybe this will work: imgurDOTcom/26sXGl.jpg
And thanks for the warning on the 3buttonfix, I'm going to have to read more about bootloaders though, I don't understand what you and studacris were talking about earlier in the thread, haha.
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I havent seen that before, there doesnt seem to be a build#
Might want to pull that photo, it's not too good having your IMEI number publicly displayed
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I havent seen that before, there doesnt seem to be a build#
Might want to pull that photo, it's not too good having your IMEI number publicly displayed
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Maybe because it's a refurb? and whoops didn't think about that.
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Maybe because it's a refurb? and whoops didn't think about that.
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I'm not sure why, mine is a referb, and I have a sticker with mine on it. Ooh well, it is what it is
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Ok, so I ran into a VERY weird issue and was wondering if anyone else has experienced this or has a better solution then what I found.
My Nexus7 was running stock JRO03D. I had it rooted, using the Motley kernel with CWM Recovery - but outside of that, everything else was pretty stock. Anyway, I decided to upgrade to the 4.1.2 image. I pulled the one it downloaded automatically out of /cache and looked at the updater-script to see what it did. I noticed it replaced a lot, including the boot image, so I figured it would be better just to let it do everything and revert my custom stuff later. So I replaced the kernel with the stock JRO03D kernel and, using CWM, flashed the upgrade. Everything seemed to go perfect and it completed the upgrade. Prior to rebooting it, I also flashed the "unofficial" motley 4.1.2 kernel posted on XDA. I rebooted the device, and CWM warned me that 'su' needed to be fixed (how nice!) and made it suid again. It rebooted and after android "updated", everything was up and running. I confirmed in settings that it was on 4.1.2 with the custom kernel. SU was suid root as well. Perfect!
Not quite.
I decided to try rebooting into recovery to make sure CWM was still there, or flash it back if it wasn't. I opened up a terminal emulator, removed the new recovery-recovery image in /system, and did "reboot recovery". The Nexus7 rebooted, but rebooted right back into normal operation. Very weird. So I hooked it up to my computer, figuring CWM was gone, and tried to fastboot flash it back. Fastboot said it did, but I still wasn't able to reboot into recovery. I tried three different versions of CWM and even TWRP, but no dice. Every time I tried rebooting into recovery (using terminal emulator, adb shell or bootloader method) it just went right back into the normal boot process.
I spoke to some people on IRC who recommended reflashing the stock image from Google (without wiping user data). I reflashed the bootloader and then did a fastboot update <stock image>, and it said it replaced boot, recovery, system, etc. It rebooted automatically, and I tried going into stock recovery. That still did NOT work. Instead, I got a very sick looking android guy who was lying down with a red triangle with an exclamation point over him. I was a bit worried and upset at this point. I tried reflashing CWM/TWRP again, but nothing. When I did this, I no longer got the unhappy android image, but it just booted up normally.
I decided to try and doing a more thorough wipe, using fastboot to wipe cache/boot/recovery/system manually. Then I reflashed the bootloader and stock image. Still no recovery (stock or custom).
As you can imagine, I was getting even more concerned now. Especially since I was no without root and no way to get it back (since I couldn't get into recovery to flash the zip for it).
I tried every other thing I could think of to flash recovery back, but nothing worked. It wouldn't load at all.
Finally, I was about to do a complete factory reset and wipe/reflash of everything, but one last thought crossed my mind. I found the older (JRO03D) bootloader and flashed that. Reloaded bootloader and selected "Recovery". Voila, I was in TWRP Recovery Mode! (which was the last one I tried installing). I was able to reinstall my SU.zip and get everything back up and running.
SO, long story short, I'm now on 4.1.2, running the newer unofficial motley kernel and have su back. But I'm also stuck on the older 3.34 bootloader. If I try upgrading it back to 3.41, I won't be able to get into recovery.
Has this happened to anyone else? It doesn't seem like it. Is there a HW issue with my device causing this problem? I can't believe it's software related since I tried two different copies of the 3.41 image. Does anyone have any other suggestions on how I can upgrade the bootloader while keeping the ability to get into recovery mode?
Also, while everything *seems* to be working OK using 3.34, do you think it will cause other problems since I'm using 4.1.2?
Thanks.
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Thanks for the bootloader info. I was in the same boat, and once I found your post, I went back to JRO03D and my recovery has returned.
Again, thanks, you F'n rule!!!
That android with the red triangle sounds like the stock recovery... so I think you actually got it to work, but you just didn't have a custom recovery...
Then again I don't think I've ever seen the stock recovery. Haha
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MetalWych said:
Thanks for the bootloader info. I was in the same boat, and once I found your post, I went back to JRO03D and my recovery has returned.
Again, thanks, you F'n rule!!!
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No problem. I'm glad to hear that my solution above helped someone else, and also that I'm not the only one experiencing the problem. I assume you mean you only went back to the JRO03D bootloader and not the whole image, right?
What I'm most concerned about is that it seems like my N7 (and possibly yours as well) is defective. I'm not an uber-expert on Android, but I'm fairly knowledgeable. With a stock system, outside of userdata, that I reflashed multiple times from multiple sources, to have any type of recovery (stock or custom) not work is a bit upsetting. Since it works fine on the older bootloader, it definitely seems to be an issue with that. But since most people do not have the same issue, the only variable I can see being the difference is hardware.
Metallice said:
That android with the red triangle sounds like the stock recovery... so I think you actually got it to work, but you just didn't have a custom recovery...
Then again I don't think I've ever seen the stock recovery. Haha
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It looked more like a warning symbol that something went very wrong then a stock recovery screen.
I've gone into stock recovery on other Android devices before, and it looked similar to CWM. There was a menu that allowed you to install "authorized" update.zip files, factory reset the device, etc. There was no menu here, just a very pissed off and sick looking android guy .
I believe I am having the same issue. Would you mind linking me to the bootloader which worked for you? Tried searching but couldn't find it. Thanks, and great post!
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There's a big thread around here somewhere with people having the same problem as the op. Unfortunately, staying with the 3.34 bootloader is the only 'fix' I've read about. I still can't figure out why some people run into this problem and some don't. I used twrp to flash the update when it became available, and twrp continued to work afterwards.
spongers said:
I believe I am having the same issue. Would you mind linking me to the bootloader which worked for you? Tried searching but couldn't find it. Thanks, and great post!
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It took me a long time to find the old full JRO03D update, since Google only has the latest one on their page. I uploaded the bootloader out of it and you can download it here:
http://core.routed.com/bootloader-grouper-3.34.img
Reboot the Nexus7 into bootloader mode and run:
fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-grouper-3.34.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
and then you should be able to flash recovery and get into it.
Metallice said:
That android with the red triangle sounds like the stock recovery... so I think you actually got it to work, but you just didn't have a custom recovery...
Then again I don't think I've ever seen the stock recovery. Haha
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The android with the red triangle does not sound like the stock recovery, it is THE stock recovery.
Under JB 4.1.2 you do not need anymore to connect the N7 to a computer - like it had to be under JB 4.1.1 - to access the bootloader and then the recovery.
Now, pressing volume + power brings the bootloader , the up volume, one press, and then power press put the N7 to recovery. The recovery is the android with the red triangle. To enter in the recovery menu pressing power + volume up brings the menu with the following options:
i) reboot system now,
ii) apply update from ADB,
iii) wipe data/factory reset,
iiii)wipe cache partition.
Concerning specifically the OTA update for an unlock and root N7 there should be no problem during the process using stock recovery or CWM 6.0.1.0 as long as OTA Rootkeeper is set, before the installation, in order to keep root.
the fact that you were able to do volume down + power button into bootloader, then select recovery, makes me know its working. and the android guy on his back is the stock recovery... so everything is working fine. you said you flashed motley kernel, it may have something to do with that, and a few other things. you really need to understand how the N7 works, and what it will do if you do not do certain things.
what u should try is, fastboot flash recovery, then fastboot boot recovery
flash a different rom, i prefer Paul's Jr8 as its close to stock with nice little tweaks and see if your issue continues.
at the end of everything, i honestly find this more user error then device related. not everyone understands what the N7 is doing, and why.
smirkis said:
the fact that you were able to do volume down + power button into bootloader, then select recovery, makes me know its working. and the android guy on his back is the stock recovery... so everything is working fine. you said you flashed motley kernel, it may have something to do with that, and a few other things. you really need to understand how the N7 works, and what it will do if you do not do certain things.
what u should try is, fastboot flash recovery, then fastboot boot recovery
flash a different rom, i prefer Paul's Jr8 as its close to stock with nice little tweaks and see if your issue continues.
at the end of everything, i honestly find this more user error then device related. not everyone understands what the N7 is doing, and why.
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Smirkis, my initial thought was that something went wrong in the upgrade process, possibly with the kernel like you suggested, so, as I mentioned in the OP, I flashed everything back to stock 4.1.2. I used flashboot to manually erase boot, cache, recovery and system. I then reinstalled the bootloader from Google's update tarball. I then used fastboot to update to image-nakasi-jzo54k.zip. At this point, outside of wiping sdcard, everything was stock 4.1.2.
While I will admit that I didn't realize that the dead-looking android meant stock recovery (and that's good to hear), subsequently flashing a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP) would continually fail to load it. In fact, I couldn't even boot into the recovery manually without flashing it. While using 100% stock, I attempted to flash three different versions of CWM and one version of TWRP. It claimed it updated, but I was not able to get back into recovery - either through bootloader, adb or "reboot recovery".
I know it's easy for people to always jump to the "user error" answer, but I fail to see how that is the case here. Based on your response, I don't think you actually read what I did and just jumped to the wrong conclusion, especially since I already tried your recommendation and much more. I am not running any custom ROM - everything was always stock outside of recovery, root and kernel. If you can explain your reasoning for thinking I did something wrong in all of my numerous attempts to get it working, I would appreciate it since maybe that would provide a solution. While I did attempt to use a custom kernel originally, that obviously isn't the issue if going back to stock didn't fix it.
Additionally, reverting back to the older bootloader magically fixed everything, while all other attempts failed. Subsequently reinstalling the custom kernel didn't break anything either. So if it wasn't the bootloader and something else was broken, I would assume it would be broken in both versions of the bootloader. The fact that this problem is affecting others, granted a small number, and the same solution works for them, leads me to believe that there is either a bug in the bootloader affecting some N7s or some rare HW defect causing a few of us problems.
There is a conversation about the new android update the boot-loader update and A Power management chip on the nexus 7.. It seems this chip is being changed out. The new chip functions the same as they have been using but Its not compatible with the old boot-loader . The above is the reason for the boot-loader change.. Google is aware of the troubles everyone in this thread is having . I would be looking for a new very tiny update in the near days. Just a guess im wondering if the truth is they are gearing up for the 3g version of nexus .maybe the pm chip being changed has a issue with the added radios. They did say ITS NOT A Chip upgrade but will not say why they are making the switch .
sorry i do not have a link . but everyone knows how to get to google groups ..
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I just got another N7 in the mail today, gonna unlock n root it when i get off work. hopefully i end up in your situation so i can attempt to assist in resolving this. why the old bootloader works for you, and never worked for the rest of the world is beyond me. they updated it for a reason lol, i even called google the first week i got mine in july to tell them about the bootloader and they "said" they would forward that info to the development team. it took almost 3 months for them to fix it.
if the old one works for you, then use the old one. the only difference really is the fact that reboot to recovery thru bootloader actually works. if it works for you, don't upgrade.
mine on the other hand, couldn't get into recovery via bootloader. i was dieing for that upgrade, and when it came i was beyond relieved. i did a RMA this week because my first one had screen lift since the 2nd day i owned it lol, so i'll report back when i get home in an hour or so on my results.
smirkis said:
I just got another N7 in the mail today, gonna unlock n root it when i get off work. hopefully i end up in your situation so i can attempt to assist in resolving this. why the old bootloader works for you, and never worked for the rest of the world is beyond me. they updated it for a reason lol, i even called google the first week i got mine in july to tell them about the bootloader and they "said" they would forward that info to the development team. it took almost 3 months for them to fix it.
if the old one works for you, then use the old one. the only difference really is the fact that reboot to recovery thru bootloader actually works. if it works for you, don't upgrade.
mine on the other hand, couldn't get into recovery via bootloader. i was dieing for that upgrade, and when it came i was beyond relieved. i did a RMA this week because my first one had screen lift since the 2nd day i owned it lol, so i'll report back when i get home in an hour or so on my results.
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Just to clarify, going from bootloader->recovery never worked for me either. Whenever I needed to get into recovery mode, I just opened up a terminal, su'd to root and then ran "reboot recovery", or occasionally doing it via adb. However, those methods always worked for me until I upgraded to the latest bootloader. Then, no custom recoveries would load via any method.
My Nexus7 was first generation. I actually picked it up in Sams Club the day before they were officially released. So if Google made any HW changes in the different revisions, that might explain the difference in results on 4.1.2. Though I imagine most people on XDA also picked theirs up out of the first batch, so I don't think that could be the case. What seems more likely is that there are minor hardware differences that are causing some people's to fail with the 3.41 bootloader, while most don't have that issue. It will be interesting to see if you experience the same issue on your new one though.
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Concerning specifically the OTA update for an unlock and root N7 there should be no problem during the process using stock recovery or CWM 6.0.1.0 as long as OTA Rootkeeper is set, before the installation, in order to keep root.
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It didn't worked for me. I've tried Rootkeeper apk, but it was useless.
This was driving me crazy until I've found this topic! I've tried resetting it to original settings, using rootkeeper and traditional methods, nothing, zero!
At last, phonic saved my life, and finally I a could root my Nexus 7!
I never responded but my RMA worked as it should. but the issue has been resolved with recovery updates from the developers. the rest of the world who had issues should be good to go. I ended up selling my 16gb unit and got a 32 and it works as it should as well. are we all happy campers now?
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I've had similar experiences where the way certain kernels install zips are packaged, the wipe custom recoveries at install. In that situation, I've never wiped anything from system, but rebooted into bootloader and fastboot boot recovery "recovery.img". Then from there install the recovery.zip. The worst is when this happens when you get flash happy away from home and the kernel doesn't work. No way to fix without a comp w/SDK. Glad you're back up and running.
(I cannot be held responsible if the aforementioned damages your device; do the research and own the process.)
I am so glad to have found this thread. This problem was beginning to drive me nuts.
To start this off im going to say that i am very new to Android devices, ive owned my Note 3 (The AT&T SM-N900A one) for nearly three weeks now spending time researching on rooting and the methods, etc. Well i just tried to and didnt quite have much success.
I followed this guide and its steps very thoroughly. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Yet it all ended with it booting up looking like new but nearly every 3 seconds errors appear about processes crashing and trying to stop, for example "Unfortunately, Direct pen input has stopped."
After that failure i went ahead and tried to undo it which probably wasnt a good idea, i followed this tutorial: http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-unbrick-att-galaxy-note-3-sm-n900a/.
I ended up at the exact same place, same error over and over. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thank you.
(I apologize if this had been brought up before i went searching but found nothing that was a solution to my problem.)
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To start this off im going to say that i am very new to Android devices, ive owned my Note 3 (The AT&T SM-N900A one) for nearly three weeks now spending time researching on rooting and the methods, etc. Well i just tried to and didnt quite have much success.
I followed this guide and its steps very thoroughly. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
Yet it all ended with it booting up looking like new but nearly every 3 seconds errors appear about processes crashing and trying to stop, for example "Unfortunately, Direct pen input has stopped."
After that failure i went ahead and tried to undo it which probably wasnt a good idea, i followed this tutorial: http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-unbrick-att-galaxy-note-3-sm-n900a/.
I ended up at the exact same place, same error over and over. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thank you.
(I apologize if this had been brought up before i went searching but found nothing that was a solution to my problem.)
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Have you performed a factory data reset since the last attempt?
440bro said:
Have you performed a factory data reset since the last attempt?
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Yes i have,a few times, it just then reboots with the setup and that error still occurring.
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Yes i have,a few times, it just then reboots with the setup and that error still occurring.
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That error is a bugger to get rid of, if you even can. i had this happen and had to return my device to the store. BUT that was before we had a working back to stock MJ5 solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
If you were on MJ5 this will get you back to out of the box stock with or without Root, its up to you.
i have used this twice and has worked smoothly both times, just make sure you download the files needed and follow the steps.
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That error is a bugger to get rid of, if you even can. i had this happen and had to return my device to the store. BUT that was before we had a working back to stock MJ5 solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
If you were on MJ5 this will get you back to out of the box stock with or without Root, its up to you.
i have used this twice and has worked smoothly both times, just make sure you download the files needed and follow the steps.
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That is the method OP used to get root....
OP, you should have used Kingo... Now you will have to redo that whole process just to restore back to stock. You had a bad flash or a bad download.
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the2rrell said:
That error is a bugger to get rid of, if you even can. i had this happen and had to return my device to the store. BUT that was before we had a working back to stock MJ5 solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559715
If you were on MJ5 this will get you back to out of the box stock with or without Root, its up to you.
i have used this twice and has worked smoothly both times, just make sure you download the files needed and follow the steps.
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That was the method that originally got me into this situation and i just tried it again step by step and i am still having the issue.
One thing that has caught my eye is that this was my devices information before ever trying any rooting process or anything:
MODEL NUMBER: SAMSUNG-SN-N900A
ANDROID VERSION: 4.3 (Jelly Bean)
BASEBAND VERSION: N900AUCUBNB4
KERNEL INFO -
3.4.0-1625098
se.i[email protected] #1
Mon Feb 10 21:13:28 KST 2014
BUILD NUMBER: JSS15J.N900AUCUBNB4
SELINUX STATUS: Enforcing
Is there any possible way to get it back to being a BNB4 device like the information above?
graydiggy said:
That is the method OP used to get root....
OP, you should have used Kingo... Now you will have to redo that whole process just to restore back to stock. You had a bad flash or a bad download.
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tis the reason i directed him back to that thread. i know they are working on a easier odin flash to return to stock in another thread. dont know why he was using that to get root, but he will now need to use it to get booting back to normal again.
anyway, apologies for not being more clear.
so to sum it all up, redownload the files in case you got a bad one and repeat the process my good sir.
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tis the reason i directed him back to that thread. i know they are working on a easier odin flash to return to stock in another thread. dont know why he was using that to get root, but he will now need to use it to get booting back to normal again.
anyway, apologies for not being more clear.
so to sum it all up, redownload the files in case you got a bad one and repeat the process my good sir.
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Okay, thank you guys very much but its back to functioning properly! :victory:
Now am i just trying to accomplish a root, but that doesnt seem to be working, after i put the root de la vega files onto the sdcard SuperSU never installs upon restart, why is it not auto-installing like it seems to be expressed as in the tutorial?
EDIT: Okay guys, nevermind about the root, i just used Kingo.
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Okay, thank you guys very much but its back to functioning properly! :victory:
Now am i just trying to accomplish a root, but that doesnt seem to be working, after i put the root de la vega files onto the sdcard SuperSU never installs upon restart, why is it not auto-installing like it seems to be expressed as in the tutorial?
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use kingo 1.1.8 it is a lot easier
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ive owned my Note 3 (The AT&T SM-N900A one) for nearly three weeks now spending time researching on rooting and the methods, etc.
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How did you NOT find Kingo right away?
What kind of research did you do for 3 weeks? lol
Well, I'm glad you're good to go now. The devs on this site are exceptional and you are lucky to have them. (me too).
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Okay, thank you guys very much but its back to functioning properly! :victory:
Now am i just trying to accomplish a root, but that doesnt seem to be working, after i put the root de la vega files onto the sdcard SuperSU never installs upon restart, why is it not auto-installing like it seems to be expressed as in the tutorial?
EDIT: Okay guys, nevermind about the root, i just used Kingo.
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So how did you get it back functioning properly? I am at the same point. I bricked my N3 screwing around with getting Face Unlock to work. So I followed the steps of Restore for MJ5 post, and immediately upon the final boot into setup, the Direct Pen Input error started, and makes the device useless. What fixed yours?
Re-download all the files and retry. Also, verify the size. I think you may have a corrupt file somewhere.
And factory reset after installing a ROM, even if it's the same ROM you had. Any ROM, on any phone, not just this one. Different ROMs store data in different locations, and if a ROM picks up the data from a previous ROM, that may bot be the data it wants, so it causes things to crash.
Ok thanks for the replies. I actually tried a factory reset after seeing the error, but it didn't help at all. And I did run a checksum on the only file that displayed a number, when I originally downloaded the files. But as would be expected, after all simple efforts to fix the issue failed, I started fresh on a whole different PC, downloaded all of the files again, used a different USB cable, and installed everything all over again. And low and behold, the second time was a total success. I can't explain what made the difference, and the checksum result showed an accurate download both times. But this is the nature of the beast isn't it?
Thanks,
Hey All,
Finally got my nexus 6 and I'm pumped to have a developer phone again. Haven't done anything since I got rid of my galaxy nexus a year or so ago, so I'm a bit rusty. Sorry if this has been posted before, I searched but couldn't find anything related to this. Long story short, I had my phone unlocked and rooted and have TWRP installed fine. I just went in and cleared the cache, dalvik cache, and fixed permissions... and now I'm stuck in a bootloop. After researching I'm pretty sure it was the fixed permissions that messed it up, I didn't know that it didn't work on lollipop at the time. I've come to the conclusion I need to reflash the stock images and start from scratch. The only problem is I'm currently stuck at work for another 4 hours and can't use adb at all on this computer. So I'm wondering if anyone knew of another way to fix from just the phone. Thanks in advanced guys!
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Hey All,
Finally got my nexus 6 and I'm pumped to have a developer phone again. Haven't done anything since I got rid of my galaxy nexus a year or so ago, so I'm a bit rusty. Sorry if this has been posted before, I searched but couldn't find anything related to this. Long story short, I had my phone unlocked and rooted and have TWRP installed fine. I just went in and cleared the cache, dalvik cache, and fixed permissions... and now I'm stuck in a bootloop. After researching I'm pretty sure it was the fixed permissions that messed it up, I didn't know that it didn't work on lollipop at the time. I've come to the conclusion I need to reflash the stock images and start from scratch. The only problem is I'm currently stuck at work for another 4 hours and can't use adb at all on this computer. So I'm wondering if anyone knew of another way to fix from just the phone. Thanks in advanced guys!
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you can try flashing any rom, since you have twrp installed, or you can try wiping data(factory reset).
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you can try flashing any rom, since you have twrp installed, or you can try wiping data(factory reset).
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Unfortunately, I do not have any ROMs saved on my phone yet. I just got it last night with only maybe an hour or two of playing time. I also tried factory reset through TWRP and am still experiencing the bootloop. Would formatting data help? I feel like it would, but like I said, I'm rusty.
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Unfortunately, I do not have any ROMs saved on my phone yet. I just got it last night with only maybe an hour or two of playing time. I also tried factory reset through TWRP and am still experiencing the bootloop. Would formatting data help? I feel like it would, but like I said, I'm rusty.
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you can try, i dont think itll help. all you got to do is download any rom/gapps/supersu to your phone then flash it. i use rastapop.
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you can try, i dont think itll help. all you got to do is download any rom/gapps/supersu to your phone then flash it. i use rastapop.
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I know, but I can't boot my phone to download it. Hence, why I'm going to have to flash the stock images when I get home. How is rastapop? I need to find something since the big names aren't out yet. I'll try it out later once everything is fixed. I'm mad I ran into this boot loop because custom rom was next on my list of things to do haha
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I know, but I can't boot my phone to download it. Hence, why I'm going to have to flash the stock images when I get home. How is rastapop? I need to find something since the big names aren't out yet. I'll try it out later once everything is fixed. I'm mad I ran into this boot loop because custom rom was next on my list of things to do haha
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you didnt happen to make a backup in recovery, did you? if you did, just restore it.
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you didnt happen to make a backup in recovery, did you? if you did, just restore it.
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Nope, would have made life a lot easier if I did. I was just kicking myself in the ass for that earlier.
Edit: nvm, forgot you don't have adb access
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Thanks for the help guys. I'm just gonna start from scratch when I get home... god I hate not having a phone.
Yah I realized fixing permissions messes it up. And also if u wipe internal storage the phone looses the system ui and the back home menu buttons as well
well thats good to know. Will it still do that if I'm not encrypted?
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Unfortunately, I do not have any ROMs saved on my phone yet. I just got it last night with only maybe an hour or two of playing time. I also tried factory reset through TWRP and am still experiencing the bootloop. Would formatting data help? I feel like it would, but like I said, I'm rusty.
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Probably too late to do, but USB-OTG cable and a jump drive. I have downloaded stuff on work PC, copied to jump drive and flashed it on phone with TWRP from the jump drive.
I can personally confirm the permission fix in TWRP recovery breaks the stock L5.0.0 and 5.0.1 and I assume probably most ROMs? There seems to be several threads about this.
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Probably too late to do, but USB-OTG cable and a jump drive. I have downloaded stuff on work PC, copied to jump drive and flashed it on phone with TWRP from the jump drive.
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you can flash from a jump drive? I didn't know that