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Did anyone else find it interesting that there is an extra $20 to the price in tax and shipping? Now maybe its just me but I feel if you spend more that $100 for a small item online shipping should be free. And $13 what is that google trying to recoup some of the profit margin. I could ship it myself for under 10 2 day from USPS and they probably get a discount for mass shipping. Dont get me wrong I still ordered it, Im just slightly frustrated with how they worked out the price.
tax is normal .
shipping 13 bucks, thats fine..
Google isnt amazon
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Did anyone else find it interesting that there is an extra $20 to the price in tax and shipping? Now maybe its just me but I feel if you spend more that $100 for a small item online shipping should be free. And $13 what is that google trying to recoup some of the profit margin. I could ship it myself for under 10 2 day from USPS and they probably get a discount for mass shipping. Dont get me wrong I still ordered it, Im just slightly frustrated with how they worked out the price.
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They aren't "hidden fees", they are tax and shipping... just as stated. Hidden fees are things like a $30 "upgrade" fee that is not obviously stated but will show up on your Verizon bill when you agree to a new 2 year contract for them. Tax and shipping are fees for the taxes that are obligatory and to cover the cost of packing and shipping the product. The Nexus 7 is being practically sold at cost as-is, so complaining about a small shipping fee is a bit uncalled for.
The fact that Amazon has gotten away with not charging tax for all of these years is mind-boggling, I guarantee has a lot to do with political lobbying and strong-arming. Don't get used to it, as they will soon (rightfully) have to charge tax and submit it to states. Google rightfully collecting and submitting sales tax is a sign that they are a company that tries to do the right thing, that's welcome in this day and age.
Nothing hidden about it...you get full disclosure of it and you don't have to buy if you think it's absurd.
Hidden may not be the best word. But I think they are pocketing some money from the shipping charge. There is no way it cost that much to send, to me its a crafty way to make the MSRP lower.
Mine was 94 cents tax (Kinda weird) and 13 dollars shipping.
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Hidden may not be the best word. But I think they are pocketing some money from the shipping charge. There is no way it cost that much to send, to me its a crafty way to make the MSRP lower.
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They do two-day shipping. I can't quote all of the costs, but I will see that a flat-rate Priority Mail box from USPS costs $16.95 these days. Shipping isn't cheap, unless you are Amazon and can negotiate a deal based on the fact that you will be shipping 10s of thousands of products every day.
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They do two-day shipping. I can't quote all of the costs, but I will see that a flat-rate Priority Mail box from USPS costs $16.95 these days. Shipping isn't cheap, unless you are Amazon and can negotiate a deal based on the fact that you will be shipping 10s of thousands of products every day.
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exactly. not unreasonable at all. i would gladly pay a little extra on shipping so my device isnt destroyed in transit.
When they are selling a device at pretty much cost price I think $20 on shipping and tax is more than fair enough..its better than the $200 profit apple wack on each ipad.
Stop complaining its a bloody good deal!
I would be fine with the extra shipping and taxes and stuff, but I've never seen Arizona tax anything I've bought anything online, yet because of the tax it took my $250 tablet plus $13.99 shipping and made it $280. That seems a little much for me, though I did buy the device.
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...but I've never seen Arizona tax anything I've bought anything online...
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That's because states don't collect sales tax, retailers do (are suppose to anyway), but only if they have a nexus (ha!) in the state.
I didn't have to pay sales tax on mine... just shipping and $13 isn't bad.
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Canada (Ontario) pricing:
Nexus 7 (16GB) $259.00
Shipping: $19.99
Tax: $33.67
Total: $312.66
Mine was
Nexus 7 (16GB)
$249.00
Shipping (Two Day Shipping):
$13.99
Tax:
$18.41
Total:
$281.40
Shipping price seems fair and taxes are, well, taxes . . .
Some of that cost will be offset by the $25 credit for apps.
Seeing as the amount of money I save in shipping with amazon prime I think I can handle at most $30 in taxes and shipping
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Hidden fees lol don't be a salty consumer!
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I pre-ordered at game-stop, just because of that.
Same deal, movie, book and 25 bucks, but I'll save a little bit on shipping.
I haven't been quite this excited about a tech product since I bought my skinny Mac in 1984. I was a bit disappointed in the extra fees, but it's hard to be upset about it. It's a way better deal than my puke green Mac was!
Paying $229.50 for the eight gigabyte joint. Texas has taxes.
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I pre-ordered at game-stop, just because of that.
Same deal, movie, book and 25 bucks, but I'll save a little bit on shipping.
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Doing this tomorrow.
danny8 said:
I haven't been quite this excited about a tech product since I bought my skinny Mac in 1984. I was a bit disappointed in the extra fees, but it's hard to be upset about it. It's a way better deal than my puke green Mac was!
Paying $229.50 for the eight gigabyte joint. Texas has taxes.
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I hear you man, I am ridiculously excited for this thing. I already have a 4.7" Android phone and an iPad 3 but knowing I have this thing coming brings an ear to ear grin to my face every time I think about it.
The pricing for these phones unlocked is ridiculous. ANd if you want it cheap you are binded under contract. That is why I have cricket. Got my awesome ZTE phone for 160 with no contracts. I have a friend that is still paying for his phone plus 120 dollars each month on phone bills. That is way too much!
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The pricing for these phones unlocked is ridiculous. ANd if you want it cheap you are binded under contract. That is why I have cricket. Got my awesome ZTE phone for 160 with no contracts. I have a friend that is still paying for his phone plus 120 dollars each month on phone bills. That is way too much!
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I agree:thumbup:
You don't want to know how much the Marketing costs.....
The campaign for the iPhone 6, for example, cost Apple a meagre 850 million dollars. The one for the S6 was somewhere around 600 million.
Now guess who has to pay for that...
Not to mention, do you have any idea how much money is paid in patent fees to other companies for every device? Of your 700 quid phone, 400 quid goes to about 60 different companies for the use of about 600 patents. 200 alone are Microsoft's.
Then there's development costs. Loads of prototypes, trial and error.... And phones don't drop out of the sky, the developers, engineers, designers, r&d staff and everyone else involved has to get paid, too.
Then there's psychology. They tested this in the USA. Give people the option between two identical phones, one for 300 quid and one for 700 quid, and 93% will buy the 700 quid one.
Why? Image. They think a pricy phone makes them appear(and feel) more rich and accomplished. And because of that, they feel a cheaper phone is of a lower quality.
People are incredibly gullible and susceptible when it comes to outside appearances. They'd rather waste 400 quid so they can boast to everyone about how their phone was so very expensive. It makes them feel better.
How many times have we heard this argument: "You're just hating on Apple because you're too poor to buy an iPhone".
And that's why we pay ridiculous amounts for a smartphone: because that's what the masses want to pay.
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Well, the poster above nailed it.
You should also add more factors:
Screen resolution is a gimmick. If you have more than 250PPI or 300PPI, you wont really notice the pixels, unless you facehug your phone.
Performance. From the qualcom S400, S600, S800 lineup, you will probably be set forever. Unless you are a gamer, you dont feel the difference.
Smartphone camera. Get a DSLR, you will do better pictures and get it cheaper instead of paying more for nothing.
RAM is the only good thing about new phones. Having more RAM is always better because you cannot expect the guys who develop apps to be careful enough to do the most basic thing and remove the most dangerous memory leaks or their apps eating huge chunks of memory.
Yeah marketing costs, but there are always phones with good price, quality and performance. Think about some Xiaomi, Lenovo, Jiayu....
In the UK carphone warehouse sell payg phones but their handsets are unlocked to all networks! Just have to buy a top up when you purchase the handset then you can use any sim, no extortionate sim-free prices!
hi all,
I want to purchase Note 8, but it seems to much expensive for my budget. Even though with free gifts (which you can resell) if you add up taxes, it will come up the same.
What you guy think, lets say if i wait 2-3 months the price will really drop ( I am wiling to wait until the end of year if it make sense )?
One possible scenario is they may drop the price a little bit, but also discontinue gift option, which no make sense for me.
Does anyone aware of recent dynamics, based on previous Galaxy models, lets say S8 or so?
Or , does price really drops on Black friday?
Thanks in advance.
I got my note 5 at Sam's on a preblack Friday for a $1 a few years ago
999masks said:
hi all,
I want to purchase Note 8, but it seems to much expensive for my budget. Even though with free gifts (which you can resell) if you add up taxes, it will come up the same.
What you guy think, lets say if i wait 2-3 months the price will really drop ( I am wiling to wait until the end of year if it make sense )?
One possible scenario is they may drop the price a little bit, but also discontinue gift option, which no make sense for me.
Does anyone aware of recent dynamics, based on previous Galaxy models, lets say S8 or so?
Or , does price really drops on Black friday?
Thanks in advance.
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I suggest this will depend on where you live and how you make your purchase and what you are prepared to gamble.
In my country there are zero 'contract' sales. we all have to buy our mobiles at top price. There is also a sales price that all outlets maintain meaning regardless where one buys, it will be the same price, don't ask it makes zero business sense to me either. Having said that the law, in theory, protects consumers. If we don't like the purchase we have 20 days to return for a full refund. Warranty problems are generally taken care off. In other words its a relatively 'safe' place to buy a mobile.
I am paying 1,020.00€ for the Note 8. My SGS8+ cost 920.00€ , 100.00€ difference but if I take into account the free DEX offer, worth 150.00€ here, my Note 8 is cheaper than the S8+!
Now we go to the 'open market'. This can be a gamble and a nightmare. Sure you may get what you consider a bargain as many did with their Note 7 purchase from Dubai BUT when the woopsie hit the fan while I got a full refund on the spot TWICE for both iterations, those who bought from some other countries got stuffed. Not all but too many for comfort.
My point is you will get what you pay for. With an expensive purchase like this I use a reputable international outlet, FNAC, and am relatively well looked after. If I choose to do so I could also buy from, say Dubai and save tax etc but....
Amazon CAN BE a good purchase outlet BUT Amazon are using more and more third party sellers and many of those are not based in Europe meaning they are sent from China or where ever and that causes massive import problems here. IF one can purchase an Amazon sourced product that is sold by a vendor within Europe one can, after a small time frame, find the price of such items reduced. Again such reductions can mean grey imports etc. Check the sellers Amazon profile.
For me I pay top price in this country in the city I live near from a reputable outlet and sleep well at night. Not everyone is the same though, thank heavens.
Take care with such purchases its not the initial purchase than can be the problem, the problem is IF the mobile is a brick are you safe in getting a replacement under warranty etc blah blah. You pay your money you accept your choice.
Last point being how long are you willing to wait? Most of us here are techno nuts who want this device yesterday! No way would the majority of my peers here be willing to wait even an extra day to save a euro!
Ryland
Ryland Johnson said:
I suggest this will depend on where you live and how you make your purchase and what you are prepared to gamble.
In my country there are zero 'contract' sales. we all have to buy our mobiles at top price. There is also a sales price that all outlets maintain meaning regardless where one buys, it will be the same price, don't ask it makes zero business sense to me either. Having said that the law, in theory, protects consumers. If we don't like the purchase we have 20 days to return for a full refund. Warranty problems are generally taken care off. In other words its a relatively 'safe' place to buy a mobile.
I am paying 1,020.00€ for the Note 8. My SGS8+ cost 920.00€ , 100.00€ difference but if I take into account the free DEX offer, worth 150.00€ here, my Note 8 is cheaper than the S8+!
Now we go to the 'open market'. This can be a gamble and a nightmare. Sure you may get what you consider a bargain as many did with their Note 7 purchase from Dubai BUT when the woopsie hit the fan while I got a full refund on the spot TWICE for both iterations, those who bought from some other countries got stuffed. Not all but too many for comfort.
My point is you will get what you pay for. With an expensive purchase like this I use a reputable international outlet, FNAC, and am relatively well looked after. If I choose to do so I could also buy from, say Dubai and save tax etc but....
Amazon CAN BE a good purchase outlet BUT Amazon are using more and more third party sellers and many of those are not based in Europe meaning they are sent from China or where ever and that causes massive import problems here. IF one can purchase an Amazon sourced product that is sold by a vendor within Europe one can, after a small time frame, find the price of such items reduced. Again such reductions can mean grey imports etc. Check the sellers Amazon profile.
For me I pay top price in this country in the city I live near from a reputable outlet and sleep well at night. Not everyone is the same though, thank heavens.
Take care with such purchases its not the initial purchase than can be the problem, the problem is IF the mobile is a brick are you safe in getting a replacement under warranty etc blah blah. You pay your money you accept your choice.
Last point being how long are you willing to wait? Most of us here are techno nuts who want this device yesterday! No way would the majority of my peers here be willing to wait even an extra day to save a euro!
Ryland
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hi Ryland,
thanks for taking your time and replying me back.
The main point of this question is, if I wait 3-4 months will price drop ? I know it is hard to tell, but based on other models dynamics what you think?
Or lets say, if it drop just 150$ and no more free stuff , it means no make sense to wait...
I completely share your opinion that it is worth to buy from local authorized resellers...
I am located in USA..
3 to 4 months is a good time.. With s8 plus the prices fell a decent amount in 3 months..
I am on the same boat.. I want to buy a career device may be even used one. I m in Canada
999masks said:
3 to 4 months is a good time.. With s8 plus the prices fell a decent amount in 3 months..
I am on the same boat.. I want to buy a career device may be even used one. I m in Canada
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yes, thats what I was thinking. Same here, I dont mind to buy a used one. Crossing fingers for battery not to go bad
Lets say how much S8 droped its initial price. I believe when it released, they were giving some extra stuff too, right? If the price just drop about same amount as gift and now dropped price option is withouit gift, it means there is no real drop, in that case no make sense to wait 12+ (3-4) months
In a couple of months you'll be able to get Note 8's off ebay at discounted prices as people will sell who've received free upgrades etc. Also set up Pricespy alerts online. Sometimes sellers offer 10% off deals for instance so you should find something in a few weeks. And of course it depends how successful it is!
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In a couple of months you'll be able to get Note 8's off ebay at discounted prices as people will sell who've received free upgrades etc. Also set up Pricespy alerts online. Sometimes sellers offer 10% off deals for instance so you should find something in a few weeks. And of course it depends how successful it is!
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With holiday season not far off, I am sure Samsung /carriers will have something going
Techvir said:
With holiday season not far off, I am sure Samsung /carriers will have something going
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exactly. I don't think the DEX thing is a good promotion either and obviously no one is buying it and they've a huge stock to dispose of (otherwise why not reduce the price of the phone and make it more attractive). Companies generally won't allow USB devices to connect to laptops and I don't have a screen or keyboard at home as got 2 tablets and a smart tv. There will be loads of DEX for sale for £40 soon as people realise its not getting used.
bonerp said:
exactly. I don't think the DEX thing is a good promotion either and obviously no one is buying it and they've a huge stock to dispose of (otherwise why not reduce the price of the phone and make it more attractive). Companies generally won't allow USB devices to connect to laptops and I don't have a screen or keyboard at home as got 2 tablets and a smart tv. There will be loads of DEX for sale for £40 soon as people realise its not getting used.
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Mmmm, A lot of what you write holds water however I think the DEX, worth 150€ here, is a very nice free offer. I have no interest in the DEX despite being addicted to gadgets and tech toys, I do understand though that the DEX certainly has appeal to a wide range of other users and is one very clever set up.
I would not have bought the DEX simply because I have zero use for it and even though tempted I just knew it would end up in a draw collecting dust. As one is coming free I will try it out then after let it collect dust in a draw.
Just as a foot note the DEX is selling very well here and its been difficult to even find one in stock in any outlet. I guess such hardware sales will vary from country to country though. :good:
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bonerp said:
exactly. I don't think the DEX thing is a good promotion either and obviously no one is buying it and they've a huge stock to dispose of (otherwise why not reduce the price of the phone and make it more attractive). Companies generally won't allow USB devices to connect to laptops and I don't have a screen or keyboard at home as got 2 tablets and a smart tv. There will be loads of DEX for sale for £40 soon as people realise its not getting used.
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I agree, they just trying to load as much as they can..
999masks said:
hi all,
I want to purchase Note 8, but it seems to much expensive for my budget. Even though with free gifts (which you can resell) if you add up taxes, it will come up the same.
What you guy think, lets say if i wait 2-3 months the price will really drop ( I am wiling to wait until the end of year if it make sense )?
One possible scenario is they may drop the price a little bit, but also discontinue gift option, which no make sense for me.
Does anyone aware of recent dynamics, based on previous Galaxy models, lets say S8 or so?
Or , does price really drops on Black friday?
Thanks in advance.
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i preordered mine through xfinity mobile pay 100 when it ships for frist month and tax and pay 30 or so a month
and its 200$ off the total price for instead for 900 some thing its 700 something so. and xfinity will unlock it on request for me so i order it have it unlocked and use it on my normal cariier
which if i preorder through tmobile its like 300 out the door and 30 a month and a total price of 930 .. iso i saved 200 buck on it with out doing anything really
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i preordered mine through xfinity mobile pay 100 when it ships for frist month and tax and pay 30 or so a month
and its 200$ off the total price for instead for 900 some thing its 700 something so. and xfinity will unlock it on request for me so i order it have it unlocked and use it on my normal cariier
which if i preorder through tmobile its like 300 out the door and 30 a month and a total price of 930 .. iso i saved 200 buck on it with out doing anything really
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wow, what are the prerequisites?. Do you have wireless plan from Xfinity? or existing account?. Appart of monthly payments (31.67$) do you have to purchase plan ?
can you walk us trough?
999masks said:
wow, what are the prerequisites?. Do you have wireless plan from Xfinity? or existing account?. Appart of monthly payments (31.67$) do you have to purchase plan ?
can you walk us trough?
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so i have my internet through Xfinity it is kind of required as far as i know. but go to https://www.xfinity.com/mobile/
and you pick the device and the "pay by the gig plan" cause then they dont charge you for data unless you use it. and go from there the note is like 32 bucks they have a protection plan for 12 more also. and after all of it you pay the 1st month payment on the phone (32) and the taxes (mine came to 67 bucks) so a total of 102 bucks give or take for me to preorder the Note8.
Hard to beat Verizon + Best Buy offer! $12.75/mo for 24 months is outstanding for a phone of this quality. That's what, $300? Tough to beat!
Find someone who had the Note 7 and doesn't want to Note 8 and use their promo to get the $425 Trade in
Alpha_wolf said:
so i have my internet through Xfinity it is kind of required as far as i know. but go to https://www.xfinity.com/mobile/
and you pick the device and the "pay by the gig plan" cause then they dont charge you for data unless you use it. and go from there the note is like 32 bucks they have a protection plan for 12 more also. and after all of it you pay the 1st month payment on the phone (32) and the taxes (mine came to 67 bucks) so a total of 102 bucks give or take for me to preorder the Note8.
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this is terms and conditions I found :
"Device Payment Pricing & Other Info
Offers valid 8/25/17 through 9/13/17. Restrictions apply. $200 savings off regular retail price when activating a new XFINITY Mobile line of service. Valid on select devices. While supplies last. Limit 5 per account. © 2017 Comcast. All rights reserved.
Additional fees, such as those for government taxes and regulatory recovery fees, apply."
so basically in order to get the phone, you have to activate a new mobile line.
gingi999 said:
Find someone who had the Note 7 and doesn't want to Note 8 and use their promo to get the $425 Trade in
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the chances are 1:100
PsiPhiDan said:
Hard to beat Verizon + Best Buy offer! $12.75/mo for 24 months is outstanding for a phone of this quality. That's what, $300? Tough to beat!
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where did you found that one, BB shows 32.75$ for 24 months?..
I think I will wait for few more months also I am considering to buy Exynos, unlocked version
I see they are up to their shenanigans again!
They assess sales tax at the FULL PRICE of the handset instead of the discounted price. This is not correct. Instead of paying sales tax on $829 I am paying sales tax (6%) on $1379!
The final charge hasn't hit my CC yet, but basesd on the initial receipt, they aren't charging me for the full price.
It's in the invoice from the original order. I used paypal and that's what they charge.
I just ordered a 512GB Ultra because I guess I'm a sucker for one, and TBH I'm interested in the buds pro. Which show Feb 19th shipping?! WTF is up there, the remorse period ends when those ship? What kind of crap is that?!
I guess I should have ordered earlier, shipping on everything else is Feb 5th.
It's like Christmas, every year it gets earlier (the ads, etc.).
I wonder if this year's Note will be coming in July. I remember when those came AFTER iphones LOL.
Ah, ok, you're getting the buds as a freebie? So I guess you're not in the US? Maybe different rules. My phone was 522.49 after $700 phone trade-in, and I had another $24.08 accessory charges after $200 credit. My tax rate here is 8.9% I'm not really sure where the $53.50 comes from... it's not correct for the after discounts number, nor is it correct for the pre-discounts number. But it's at least close to what it should be, not on the complete pre-discount number.
In USA (Maryland), and sales tax assessed on the full price of just the phone.
I'm getting $550 off that for trade in (S10e).
$200 credit buys buds pro and rugged carrying case with nothing left over.
Oh ok, I think they get free buds in Europe, so I thought maybe that was your case. We have similar deals then, but I have a bigger trade-in (S20U). The only accessory I wanted was the case with the S-pen, so I spent the rest on a tablet that I'll sell (which ended up putting me $24 over the allowance). The estimated tax on my invoice corresponds to a taxable amount of $601.12. I have no idea where that came from, but it's definitely not the full price of the phone.
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I see they are up to their shenanigans again!
They assess sales tax at the FULL PRICE of the handset instead of the discounted price. This is not correct. Instead of paying sales tax on $829 I am paying sales tax (6%) on $1379!
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I am in Canada and they do the same here. My sales taxes are based on the full price.
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It's not fair and there's nothing we can do about it.
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I tried shipping a S21 Ultra G5 to my forwarding warehouse in Delaware (no taxes) and Samsung repeatedly flagged all subsequent orders as fraud when I tried to reorder - to *any* address, subsequently.
(India) agents would never disclose this - even though they *know* it is the fact - and I found this out when they sent me a copy of my online chat with them - where the Subject line was clearly flagged - stating "fraud" - which is ridiculous...
I have nothing really useful to add other than the fact that you're lucky you don't live in Canada.
Since the list price of the S21 Ultra is like $1200 USD, that's $1520 CAD, yet our list price is $1999. And tax here is 13%. The phone comes out to $2260, or just shy of $1800 USD lol.
Considering the S22 Ultra is only like $100 USD more than the S21 Ultra. They're probably just going to match the S20 Ultra price tag of $2300 CAD since that at launch was $1380 USD.
Even though you're over paying for tax on that preorder, you're not nearly getting as man handled as the Canadian market.
Cause if you look at the current list price of $1380 USD, that's almost $1800 CAD, yet our list price is going to be similar to the S20 Ultra at $2300. We're over paying by about $500 CAD or $400 USD.
I mean, it sucks over paying for tax, but, it could be a LOT worse lol
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It's not fair and there's nothing we can do about it.
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Why necro this old ass thread?
Is this right? No price drop for other counties that I can see so far.
Time for people to start calling costumer service for that price difference refund. If they don't do that for you send that phone back and buy again at the discount
It seems that the prices have been dropped only on Amazon. They are the same as before even on Samsung.com.
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It seems that the prices have been dropped only on Amazon. They are the same as before even on Samsung.com.
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Dropped on B&H too. This is where I like to import snapdragon to UK from. Exynos not dropped
Dropping key features like microSD, MST = drop in consumer demand = drop in price within 2 weeks of preorder. Hope Samsung execs learn their lesson from this.
The price drop is good depending on your situation. If you're paying straight out, the price drop is good. If you are trading in and buying from Samsung, Samsung actually gives you more for your trade in. I purchased mine online through Samsung and traded in a pixel 3 (200 credit with Sammy, 70 with Amazon). I also used an education discount, went online and found a referral code on reddit, and Sammy threw in some credits to purchase other stuff. Got the new galaxy pro buds for free, a phone case, and a smart tag. This all totaled 970 with tax. With the price drop in Amazon I still pay a bit more with a trade in and get none of the other things for free. The value with Sammy comes in the bundle of items they are offering, plus higher trade in values.
Samsung reminds me of your typical American car dealership when it comes to “deals”. But hey so long as you feel happy that’s what counts.