Hello! First off thank you for taking sometime to help me out with a few questions about rooting my new Samsung Galaxy S. I've been itching to root it ever since I watched some lag fix videos in aw as to how much better the phone seems to perform,before I do go through with it I have a few questions hoping to be answered. Also last thing my device is up to date with Froyo 2.2.
First off I will be using this : (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682) to root my device, will this work fine?
Second questions is if I root my device and a gingerbread comes out as an official update can I go about updating it normally through Kies?Same goes for google updates like the new market update. (I am not interested in changing the ROM at the moment)
-Will Kies still recognize the device normally as I use it for importing music and such.
Lastly which lagfix should I use? Voodoo?It seems that Voodoo is meant to work with the GT-I9000 or does it work with the captivate too? Or do I use the oneclicklagfix on the Market?
Thank you so much for taking the time to help me and if there's any thing about the phone you need to know please do ask and Ill gladly provide you with extra information.
Thanks again!
Ibby
Yes, their is also a galaxy one click root or use AIO toolbox.
It will be best to remove root be fore updating to 2.3, market update will work as normal. For kies it should work as normal, i don't know though i just mount my device.
Voodoo is better and safer but it only comes on custom kernels. Since you don't care for flashing roms. The only way you can get it is (if its still around) a stock kernel with voodoo lagfix. *Voodoo works on most all the galaxy s family including the captivate.
One click lag fix not as safe, plus the developer has stopped developing and supporting it.
Why post the same question twice? under 2 different profiles? its kind of a waste
Ibby_CAN said:
Hello! First off thank you for taking sometime to help me out with a few questions about rooting my new Samsung Galaxy S. I've been itching to root it ever since I watched some lag fix videos in aw as to how much better the phone seems to perform,before I do go through with it I have a few questions hoping to be answered. Also last thing my device is up to date with Froyo 2.2.
First off I will be using this : (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682) to root my device, will this work fine?
Second questions is if I root my device and a gingerbread comes out as an official update can I go about updating it normally through Kies?Same goes for google updates like the new market update. (I am not interested in changing the ROM at the moment)
-Will Kies still recognize the device normally as I use it for importing music and such.
Lastly which lagfix should I use? Voodoo?It seems that Voodoo is meant to work with the GT-I9000 or does it work with the captivate too? Or do I use the oneclicklagfix on the Market?
Thank you so much for taking the time to help me and if there's any thing about the phone you need to know please do ask and Ill gladly provide you with extra information.
Thanks again!
Ibby
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Super one click is what I used to root my Rogers Captivate running 2.2. The other methods the second poster said will most likely work as well.
I am assuming the Kies update to 2.3 will not work with root enabled. The new market can be updated very easily, just find the apk somewhere on the forums and install it directly, it worked fine for me.
I am not really a fan of OCLF, it works for the first little while but seems to slow down after a while (or maybe it's all in my head?). There is a voodoo injected stock rogers kernel somewhere on the forum, I dunno where but I found it and then used Neldar's SGS Kernel flasher (available on the market) to backup my original kernel and flash the voodoo injected one. It worked great and I now have voodoo lag fix. I am looking at changing to speedmod at some point in the future.
speedy_11 said:
Why post the same question twice? under 2 different profiles? its kind of a waste
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I am also wondering this, it's kinda pointless...
Thank you to both replies,I posted the other question with an old account by accident and have no idea how to remove it!
Thanks again!
Related
I have the samsung captivate at 2.1 and it is rooted and has sideloading enabled where I can install non-market apps from my usb card. I want to update to Froyo 2.2. I have been reading but getting different answers about rooting and sideloading Froto 2.2 original leak. Also I have backed up my phone.
1.Can Froyo 2.2 original leak be rooted and sideloaded with this file?(superoneclickv1.5.4)
2.Is this the file for the original Froyo 2.2?(I897UCJI6-OCD-REV02-Low-designgears)
I want to say this is my first android phone and these things are nice. I used to only use windows mobile phones, but now...... hello android.
I would like to say thank you to all the people for the guides and help that make it possible for me to play with this fun phone.
bama9393 said:
I have the samsung captivate at 2.1 and it is rooted and has sideloading enabled where I can install non-market apps from my usb card. I want to update to Froyo 2.2. I have been reading but getting different answers about rooting and sideloading Froto 2.2 original leak. Also I have backed up my phone.
1.Can Froyo 2.2 original leak be rooted and sideloaded with this file?(superoneclickv1.5.4)
2.Is this the file for the original Froyo 2.2?(I897UCJI6-OCD-REV02-Low-designgears)
I want to say this is my first android phone and these things are nice. I used to only use windows mobile phones, but now...... hello android.
I would like to say thank you to all the people for the guides and help that make it possible for me to play with this fun phone.
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To be honest, I think the latest cognition ROM is way better than the leaked froyo. Faster, smoother, just better. And cognition of course has sideloading enabled.
Coginition question?
I read a little about the coginition roms. They seem really nice but could you answer a few questions.
1.Can you start out with the lastest rom first?
2.I read that it is really hard to go back to your original flash enev if you have a backup.(I did make a backup.)
3.I am not being a smartass but, could you please answer my first questions in my first post please.
Thank you for replying so fast.
bama9393 said:
I read a little about the coginition roms. They seem really nice but could you answer a few questions.
1.Can you start out with the lastest rom first?
2.I read that it is really hard to go back to your original flash enev if you have a backup.(I did make a backup.)
3.I am not being a smartass but, could you please answer my first questions in my first post please.
Thank you for replying so fast.
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If you update to the latest Cognition roms,you wouln't even have to root and enable side-loading.Everything is already built in.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 running Cog 2.3 with Voodoo
2.Is this the file for the original Froyo 2.2?(I897UCJI6-OCD-REV02-Low-designgears)
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Yes that is the leaked JI6 Froyo firmware, and is also one click odin.
Thank you
Thank you for answering my question.
If i was you I would leave 2.1 and add side loading, lagfix remove blootware and you got a pretty good set up, I have flashed most of the Roms here and I wont say with one is the best becouse each one has it flaws and I think just the leaked Frito has the most bugs tho design gears is basing his cog on it so he fixes stuff as he goes
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max208x
Thank you for your reply. Which lagfix would you recommend?
So what I have done to date on my Captivate.
1. Updated to latest Froyo 2.2 using Kies
2. Loaded .NET and etc
3. Rooted using SuperOneClick. Thanks ShortFuse
4. Titanium Backup. Thanks Joel
5. Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine. Thanks Android Central
6. Captivate Toolbox. Thanks Bay_wolf
7. Installed wireless tether 2.0.7 Thanks harald.mue, ulfada
8 Pimped my Captivate- Thanks systoxity, nbs11, and other XDA developers.
Now I'm to the point to ROM or not to ROM. Everything is working great. Further I am hesitant about the possibility of bricking my phone. Should I go for it? What ROM to use? What program to get ROM on phone?
Many thanks in advance.
majsig said:
So what I have done to date on my Captivate.
1. Updated to latest Froyo 2.2 using Kies
2. Loaded .NET and etc
3. Rooted using SuperOneClick. Thanks ShortFuse
4. Titanium Backup. Thanks Joel
5. Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine. Thanks Android Central
6. Captivate Toolbox. Thanks Bay_wolf
7. Installed wireless tether 2.0.7 Thanks harald.mue, ulfada
8 Pimped my Captivate- Thanks systoxity, nbs11, and other XDA developers.
Now I'm to the point to ROM or not to ROM. Everything is working great. Further I am hesitant about the possibility of bricking my phone. Should I go for it? What ROM to use? What program to get ROM on phone?
Many thanks in advance.
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majsig said:
So what I have done to date on my Captivate.
1. Updated to latest Froyo 2.2 using Kies
2. Loaded .NET and etc
3. Rooted using SuperOneClick. Thanks ShortFuse
4. Titanium Backup. Thanks Joel
5. Android Central Sideload Wonder Machine. Thanks Android Central
6. Captivate Toolbox. Thanks Bay_wolf
7. Installed wireless tether 2.0.7 Thanks harald.mue, ulfada
8 Pimped my Captivate- Thanks systoxity, nbs11, and other XDA developers.
Now I'm to the point to ROM or not to ROM. Everything is working great. Further I am hesitant about the possibility of bricking my phone. Should I go for it? What ROM to use? What program to get ROM on phone?
Many thanks in advance.
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It really just comes down to if you like your Captivate the way it is. If you aren't happy with the performance you get from it then try a few out. I recommend Cognition for a stock like experience and Serendipity for the most stable and kept up to date ROM.
This really doesn't belong in this section. It should have been posted in the General or the Q&A sections.
Well what you have done in all those steps, other then Titbu is actually done in one step by flashing a rom.
If you pay attention to the steps your risk of bricking is minimal. Just read all the rom threads and see which one floats your boat. Cognition 4.1.1 is a very stable rom. Firefly is another stable rom. You might like Fusion also as that and Cog are based off the curren kcb1 release from att.
You will need odin 1 click to return to stock. You will have to download Rom Manager and install Clockwork recovery. That puts an update.zip on your phone that boots you into recovery mode so you can flash a rom. Once you put clockwork on the phone its best to copy the udate.zip to your comp or to an ext sd card so you can just move it over after you flash back to stock when you updated roms.
First and foremost is read as much as you can before doing anything.
Thanks for the brief input. It was not my intent to post in the wrong forum. I'll repost in the Q/A.
Pm a mod and have them move it instead of double posting.
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Well what you have done in all those steps, other then Tibu is actually done in one step by flashing a rom.
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The answer is Yes.
like they said above you could have done by flashing but you would still need root and rom manager first which if you already have 2.2 means flashing a kernel via .tar which used to mean odin but now we have neldars app. so it's not really one step, even on 2.1 noone is doing signed .zips that run in 2e recovery so you still need to root and install cwmrecovery.
basically roms have some nice features like getting rid of tw mms which many versions of have bugs and timing errors that can cause double messages or incorrect order of messages or in some cases messages to the wrong contact, if you dont have that issue now flashing a rom with tw mms may cause it or it may not. aosp mms is safer but only works with samsung lockscreens on some roms, watch for that if you like the puzzle piece functionality. but there may be many enhancements like removed bloat(unless you like the samsung bloatware) minfree tweeks, mobile ap which may be more stable than using an app for wifi hotspot, plus random shortcuts ect.ect. many of these things you can do but some are features of the base rom and require flashing, 2.2.1 baseroms are smoth as butter, especially the ones from china and 2.2.1 kernels will make the phone benchmark better.
then there is kernels which you can flash now without the rom, kernels can make the phone feel smoother and the screen brighter and better colors and add volume to the headphone amp which i dont recommend because mine clips at anything above the stock setting. also there is undervolt and overclock ect... i would recomend maybe a speedmod kernel or glitterballs work, some galaxy s phones can not exceed 1.2 ghz i dont know of anyone that cant overclock but for me 1.2 is 100% stable 1.28 is 90% stable 1.3 is about the same maybe a bit more stable and 1.4 is about 30% stable i can do it but need to be really carefull about what's running and for how long, not really usable. kernels other than glitterballs mat cause your phone to die while charging but i here the sucker punch kernel has a lower occurrence of that than past kernels. speed mod is not overclock and is safe and makes a big difference!
then there is modem.bins and gps. the two are related. if you have good gps now flashing a modem.bin can make that go away and vise/versa there isn't any rules as to what works/doesn't because every phone is different. but other than gps you need to match a captivate rom to a captivate modem. this is because on north american captivate roms changing the modem and kernel to a non captivate version will disable bluetooth calling.
then there is hsupa, it's a bit over rated in a good service area, my isp gives me about the upload bandwith at home that i get without hsupa, my home internet is fine for browsing but im not hosting any files. on the otherhand it may help in lower service areas somewhat or if you tether multiple devices. to enable huspa you need a non north american captivate rom and kernel and modem.bin, you need to decide if that is important and at a slight risk of losing some gps performance as it is so inconsistent it is hard to tell what may or may not work for you.
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I love di11igaffs roms and espyel roms they are better than stock froyo hands down id flash u wont be sorry
sent from cappy with di11i rom
First up let me say I recently moved from the Motorola Dext MB200 to the Samsung Galaxy S phone.
As I am pretty familiar with rooting and adding roms to the dext/cliq
I am not sure about the Galaxy... is it the same way?
What do I need as I hear people say the Superoneclick method is better
What info do I need before rooting or installing the rom to make sure I have the proper rom.
Basically wanting a stable rom but faster than stock.
ie. wifi - bluetooth
Thanks
EwOkie said:
First up let me say I recently moved from the Motorola Dext MB200 to the Samsung Galaxy S phone.
As I am pretty familiar with rooting and adding roms to the dext/cliq
I am not sure about the Galaxy... is it the same way?
What do I need as I hear people say the Superoneclick method is better
What info do I need before rooting or installing the rom to make sure I have the proper rom.
Basically wanting a stable rom but faster than stock.
ie. wifi - bluetooth
Thanks
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Look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
JVH (Gingerbread) getting good reviews, method here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037584
Use the search button for custom roms.
Look under the development section for all the available ROM if you are currently on 2.2 froyo you may want to stick there if you are looking for something stable as 2.3 roms are still in a lot of the development stages.
Just use superoneclick to root. lots of videos on youtube if you need help.
I rooted mine about 2-3 weeks ago. I stick with stock but changed the kernel in order to be able to apply a lagfix. I change the filesystem from RFS to EXT4. The difference between the two is distinguishable as night and day in term of speed.
dlockhart said:
Look under the development section for all the available ROM if you are currently on 2.2 froyo you may want to stick there if you are looking for something stable as 2.3 roms are still in a lot of the development stages.
Just use superoneclick to root. lots of videos on youtube if you need help.
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if he is in 2.2 he should upgrade at least to 2.2.1. it's far better.
What I have :
2.2
baseband - i9000NEJP2
KERNEL - 2.6.32.9 [email protected]#1
BUILD - FROYO.NEJP5
If any of this helps
If I upgrade what do I do and do I need to unlock the phone again?
are you looking to unlock or root?
since you are on 2.2 just root using superoneclick program
if you are looking to unlock, go to the market and down un-locker pro
So, I have a SGS I9000t and am currently very frustrated with the official firmware 2.2.1, since some apps are having terrible issues. Whats worse is that lots of my programs are having constant crashes. My available ram is always getting capped, and i have to uninstall some programs that add functionality that while unnecessary they're nice to have.
Now I have been thinking, what to do? I hear I could flash my device. Doing so would improve its performance, even update to gingerbread. So now i have some questions. I bought this phone and recklessly installed darky's rom. It worked, but without 3g. Other than that, it was pretty amazing. I kept screwing around with it trying to fix 3g and finally bricked it. Took it in for warranty and got a new one.
I dont want to repeat the same mistakes, so this time i want to be extra careful.
Is there a way to do a complete backup? Like every single piece of data in ALL of my phone's memory backup. In case this flash goes wrong, I can just make it work just as it was before?
Is there a way to try roms before flashing? Like just load a rom on top of another rom without altering the current rom.
I would like to evade roms with 2.2.1 firmware, because of the problems mentioned before, so whats the best, non 2.2.1 rom available? Most stable, just plain best.
Since y phone is a i9000t my modem seems to have some problems when flashing, so here are the details of my phone: Model GT-I9000T // FW Ver 2.2.1 // Kernel 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #1 // Build FROYO.UBJP9
Im sorry if this is a lot of info, i just want to do this right. If I flash my phone its for better funcionality, not to get worse. Thanks for your time, if youve read this far. Hopefully you can help me out.
You are asking to be spoon fed information that is out there already!
1st rule of forum is look before you ask, people will help you if you make the effort, but you have to make the effort first. Sorry if this is harsh, so as a pointer, read the main q&a first as a starter
Sent from gt i9000 insanity 8.5/fugumod
Ahh yes. Ive read a lot actually. Not the basic stuff though. I may have to sit down and read up.
One quick question though, Im sure its not in the FAQ.
I have been dealing with my phone and I see now that many of the problems im having are created by the apps themselves. Will changing my rom actually help greatly? Is 2.3.3 recomemded?
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samsung use rfs file system that decays over time, hence people tend to lagfix to cure this, ie. Convert to ext4, this is done through a kernel tweak, you need to start reading and learning, im sorry but I wont do your homework for you!
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Your problems are not due to 2.2.1 Its the best non GB rom .
Your first step is factory reset .
Second check Kies for an update .
Third step would be to remove these problem apps .
But i just spotted the problem at some stage you installed a darkys rom
Known killer of phones ..
Total removal is flash stock froyo 2.2 rom with pit and repartition checked .
jje
I flashed darkys rom but traded that phone for a new one. So I have a fresh factory 2.2.1 and its working very well. My biggest problem is the bug with programs resetting/not saving settings because the old data stays after uninstalling. Also the rom runs great, what im looking for is better compatibility on perhaps another rom. But you say its as good as it gets so I may be staying with this rom.
Edit; Also, I must add that Kies cannot update my device, because my service provider has my device locked on that firmware. Now what you suggest is flashing to 2.2, then updating to a stock gingerbread rom through Kies? Should'nt I just flash GB and get it over with?
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I flashed darkys rom but traded that phone for a new one. So I have a fresh factory 2.2.1 and its working very well. My biggest problem is the bug with programs resetting/not saving settings because the old data stays after uninstalling. Also the rom runs great, what im looking for is better compatibility on perhaps another rom. But you say its as good as it gets so I may be staying with this rom.
Edit; Also, I must add that Kies cannot update my device, because my service provider has my device locked on that firmware. Now what you suggest is flashing to 2.2, then updating to a stock gingerbread rom through Kies? Should'nt I just flash GB and get it over with?
Sent from my GT-I9000T using XDA App
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Yeah, ODIN is your friend.
Well, now that I have a couple of people here, I will ask, which if these two roms would be better to install?
Gingerbread 2.3.3 stock Samsung or
Juwe's Smart Edition http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964672
I like how juwes sounds, but it says something that bothers me, and that is, that it has no bugs, and that is an extremely ignorant claim, since the gingerbread release will always have bugs, no piece of software is perfect, ever. That said, it could be much better than samsungs, so help me out on this one. Thanks.
neswii said:
Well, now that I have a couple of people here, I will ask, which if these two roms would be better to install?
Gingerbread 2.3.3 stock Samsung or
Juwe's Smart Edition http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964672
I like how juwes sounds, but it says something that bothers me, and that is, that it has no bugs, and that is an extremely ignorant claim, since the gingerbread release will always have bugs, no piece of software is perfect, ever. That said, it could be much better than samsungs, so help me out on this one. Thanks.
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If you go around looking for a problem, you are most likely to find one. This applies to more than just phone firmwares. Like you said, no system is truly perfect... With that said, I would recommend you try a custom ROM over any stock one... And Juwe's ROM is a pretty trusted one on this board... so sure, go ahead and try it!
I ended up flashing a new kernel. Speed mod or something. It worked amaizingly well. Sadly I had already bought voodoo plus, and i wont be needing that anymore. Im really pleased with my phone now. Thanks to everyone for your advice.
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If you are not curious about what are in new roms and if you do not have any problems with the stock rom. Do not flash.....
I will flash haha. But I backed up all of my data before. In case anything goes wrong. Thanks for the advice though
neswii said:
I ended up flashing a new kernel. Speed mod or something. It worked amaizingly well. Sadly I had already bought voodoo plus, and i wont be needing that anymore. Im really pleased with my phone now. Thanks to everyone for your advice.
Sent from my GT-I9000T using XDA App
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I'd say that the voodoo plus app still will be quite useful as it works its magic regardless of kernel. You might find yourself on a standard kernel one day, and then you will still be able to enjoy the improvements of voodoo.
Slap me if I'm wrong...
Woops? said:
I'd say that the voodoo plus app still will be quite useful as it works its magic regardless of kernel. You might find yourself on a standard kernel one day, and then you will still be able to enjoy the improvements of voodoo.
Slap me if I'm wrong...
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I flashed to ginger and i ended up using it again. So yes. You were right haha. Best 4 bucks ive spent in my life that little app.
neswii said:
My biggest problem is the bug with programs resetting/not saving settings because the old data stays after uninstalling.
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This is a known problem, i had it happen to me several times on froyo firmwares. Solution is to go into settings, applications, then clear data and cache of the problem program, then uninstall it, and go into /data and /dbdata/ and find any data the program has left behind and delete it. Reinstall the app from the market, and the problem should be gone. Havent had it crop up in gingerbread yet.
neswii said:
I flashed to ginger and i ended up using it again. So yes. You were right haha. Best 4 bucks ive spent in my life that little app.
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Hello fellow earthlings!
My friend has a SGS, and it is still running the stock froyo 2.2.1. It is not rooted nor has any history of hacking. She asked me to update her phone to CM10. Can anybody tell me where to start and what to do? Any links? Or are CM10 roms stable already?
I would be grateful for anyone willing to help me.
Are you sure that's a good idea? Despite what everyone might tell you CM10 isn't exactly stable yet. If you update it for her she might have to rely on you to fix her problems all the time since she didn't learn how to update it herself.
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snapper.fishes said:
...If you update it for her she might have to rely on you ....
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Well, this might be a reason to do the upgrade
My experience:
I had a 2.3.6 stock GB. It was very good but sometimes I noticed problems (lagging, app force closes, etc.). Not much, but I got annoyed and secondly I wanted to know what is all the hype around the CM. So I flashed CM9. Very nice, smooth, same battery life, but missing some of the applications, TouchWiz and got some errors as well (see this). I do not have much time (and experience either) to flash every day and I want a stable system, so I will not go for CM10 for some time.
Was it a good idea after all? Yes and no. I had to reinstall everything (CM9 uses different file system, some apps do not remember its settings, etc.), had to look for a new launcher (a word I did not know existed ) had to sort out birth illnesses. On the other hand I received a new system, a new experience and I know that if I would perform a system change it will be an upgrade to CM10, not a downgrade. Possibly I might do even a sidegrade - switching to a different developer. But obviously I will stick with the most known brands (AOKP, MIUI).
Hope I helped you.
peacekeeper05 said:
Hello fellow earthlings!
My friend has a SGS, and it is still running the stock froyo 2.2.1. It is not rooted nor has any history of hacking. She asked me to update her phone to CM10. Can anybody tell me where to start and what to do? Any links? Or are CM10 roms stable already?
I would be grateful for anyone willing to help me.
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you should and must update it to the latest firmware for your phone , which is gingerbread 2.3.6
so you have two options....
1) use KIES and let it do the job for you
2) use Odin3 and flash the latest Gingerbread ROM for your region from here or here
you must have this for any upgrade...so do this first and and see, how it suits you or her