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Hello, I'm new around here. I recently acquired a Vodafone VPx Blue Angel phone. Is it completely safe to upgrade them to the latest version of Windows Mobile for a newbie like me?
Thanks,
BrandonSH.
completely? theres always a risk.
backup your current rom to sdcard before you do anything.
just be careful about flashing radio, that's what will brick you.
Actually, upgrading any part of the device could potentially brick it. Just make sure that you follow all the necessary steps for unlocking (if necessary) and upgrading your device. Good luck...
OK... I'll try it when the cradle from eBay comes.
you should definetely follow step by step instructions. my tutorial is fool proof, because even if you don't know, what you are doing, you will still get there, and following every step exactly, there is no risk at all. hundreds of people do it exactly like that and have not bricked their devices.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630416
i totally agree..
i have a blue angel also that still runs on WM2003..i've installed spb applications in it and every time my battery runs out, all of the installed programs disappears or uninstalls..i've read in some forums that in WM5 and WM6 this thing doesnt happen even if your battery runs out..
the only thing that's been troubling me is i don't want my (beloved) Blue Angel to turn into a useless brick after stuffing up an upgrade to WM6 (if ever i decided to upgrade)..
being a newbie like you doesn't give me much confidence in following the upgrade steps that are posted in the forums..probably, when there's one that i can 'really' understand i'll give that upgrading a go for sure..until then..i just have to make sure that my battery life is doing fine
the reason, the programs are "uninstalled" when your battery runs out, is that your home drive ("C:") is stored in the ram, you can see that, when you go to start - settings - system - memory. you can adjust the level of ram in comparison to storage space on the ram. ram consists of an architecture, that can only hold data as long as it is supplied with power, just like on the pc, when you put a windows xp pc into hibernation, the ram is stored on the harddisk, so that it can power off and still save the system state. so, everytime you run out of power, probably in combination with a broken backup battery, your device is hard resetted, as it can only store the internal permanent data, like the rom partition, the storage and the storage card.
that does not happen to devices running wm5 or above, since their home drives are not located on the ram, but the storage, some roms come with a ram disk as a 2nd drive, but you would only use that space temporarily and programs and documents are stored in a save area that is independent from power supply.
btw. you are a registered user for more than a year now, by now you could have figured out the upgrade procedure. it has been posted dozens of times, the most recent and accurate ones by me. i can see that you don't want to follow steps randomly without knowing what they do. that wouldn't be a problem. i can explain any given step to you, what exactly it does and why it does that and what that is necessary for, if you want me to. after all, i wrote my tutorials, because i understand the procedure, not just copying it from somewhere.
EDIT: btw. as long as you try and flash a blueangel rom, you cannot brick your device. even if the flashing process fails for any reason, you would simply start over. besides trying to flash a rom from another device, i couldn't think of a single case, where somebody really bricked their device.
thank you for the very informative reply Chef..i've always been wondering why that thing happens to my BA, now i know why..
as for being a bit tentative on upgrading my BA..you're right..i just don't wanna follow random steps and besides im not really that 'technically' gifted when it comes to gadgets..i know my BA is an old model but i really like the benefits that i get from it..so is it ok if i post some messages to you regarding help on upgrading to wm6 for my BA?
i know you've already posted a tutorial for it..and i know a lot of people can follow it without any trouble at all..as for me..i can only understand the steps where i need to download certain files..that's about it..as for the rest of the tutorial im in total darkness..like i said, im not really that good when it comes to these kind of things
but don't worry..now that i know there's someone like you who would gladly help out a newbie like me in upgrading my BA, i think im about to 'dive in' into this upgrading stuff..just need to read your tutorial again..and download all the necessary stuff needed for the upgrade..
thanks so much..
erm im not entirely sure how flashing the wince image would brick it. i mean, i've ATTEMPTED to brick a harrier before. i zerod out the entire wince image and flashed it, i corrupted it and flashed it, i dc'd it at 2% 10% 40% 60% and so on.
i cant get the damn thing to die, seriously. ive always came back from wince flashes.
spygyro, if you want fast help you should check out the xda irc. having a live talk with someone is alot faster than on here, #xda-devs on irc.freeenode.net:6667
thanks cheapusenet..but im bit tentative to go into those chatrooms for i dont know much about gadgets like i've said before..i dont wanna bore them with my incessant questions about upgrading..but then again, it's a good suggestion..i'll try to visit it one of these days, but im still going through some of the upgrading tutorials on this site because i'm comfortable with the other forum users here..
there are a lot of knowledgeable forum members here that i think could help me gain 'confidence' into upgrading my BA..don't get me wrong, i know there are a lot of knowledgeable people on the site that you've just mentioned and i'm sure gonna give it a go and visit it..thanks for the suggestion..
spyrgyro said:
thanks cheapusenet..but im bit tentative to go into those chatrooms for i dont know much about gadgets like i've said before..i dont wanna bore them with my incessant questions about upgrading..but then again, it's a good suggestion..i'll try to visit it one of these days, but im still going through some of the upgrading tutorials on this site because i'm comfortable with the other forum users here..
there are a lot of knowledgeable forum members here that i think could help me gain 'confidence' into upgrading my BA..don't get me wrong, i know there are a lot of knowledgeable people on the site that you've just mentioned and i'm sure gonna give it a go and visit it..thanks for the suggestion..
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The instructions become more clear when you actually have the device and everything you need in front of you. There is no science to this though. Just read, read, read, and re-read until it all begins to make sense (it will, trust me)
BTW, bricking a device is perfectly possible, regardless of what cheapusenet might say (don't really know what purpose killing a Harrier would have, but...)
thanks egzthunder1...i'll try as much as possible to comprehend what the instructions are trying to convey..by the way..i went to that irc chat channel that cheapusenet suggested, and just as i thought, the only thing i got were smart-ass remarks and answers..someone even asked me 'wtf do u want b***h' ..but then again there's a kind soul who suggested i should just follow the instructions here on the forum..i think that would be my last time asking help from an irc chatroom..lol..
anyways..thanks for all the suggestion guys..all i need to do right now is to read and re-read those upgrade instructions until it all becomes crystal clear to me..i just hope i won't 'brick' my BA (fingers crossed)..
i have a large..large amount of harriers. they're the same device as the blueangel just CDMA, i wasnt attempting to brick it as much as i was trying to learn from it. i was attempting to port wm5 to the harrier and thought it may help in some way. and i'm sorrya bout that. I wasnt around i guess, i wouldve helped. it was agentblair and jason8 i bet!
you won't brick it, as long as you just flash a wince image. hell, just dont unplug it or let the battery die and it wont brick. it really isnt all that scary.
also, i DID brick a harrier once come to think about it. it was the radio. flashing the radio you have to worry about, not the WM image.
So, I have successfully bricked my phone (not by choice). I am a long time WinMo user and I have never even come close to bricking a phone. Today was exactly one week from when I bought my first android phone and I bricked it.(not blaming android, I love android)
I have tried EVERYTHING, to no avail.
My phone is on the phone++!++computer screen.
So, first thing tomorrow morning, I am headed to the AT&T store for replacement (I will act dumb and get the phone).
My questions are -
1.Will my information (contacts,emails,etc.) on the phone be checked or in any way violated?
2.If they do find out that I had rooted the phone, after I have already walked out of the store, can they do anything about it?
1: Yes, the contacts and all other data on the phone itself is still there, and will all still be there when Samsung / AT&T *un-bricks* the phone.
2: They "could", but I am not knowledgable enough to know if they "will".
Or, save yourself the hassle, and the negative moral karma, and read here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I've intentionally (with much failure), tried to "break" the phone so that I'd know how to fix it.
The above linked post will not only recover you from your "phone++!++computer" issue, but actually works so far as the dreaded "orange hex dump".
TehDave said:
1: Yes, the contacts and all other data on the phone itself is still there, and will all still be there when Samsung / AT&T *un-bricks* the phone.
2: They "could", but I am not knowledgable enough to know if they "will".
Or, save yourself the hassle, and the negative moral karma, and read here:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I've intentionally (with much failure), tried to "break" the phone so that I'd know how to fix it.
The above linked post will not only recover you from your "phone++!++computer" issue, but actually works so far as the dreaded "orange hex dump".
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I have tried everything. I don't want to return this phone, but there is no option left.
None of the methods work and I am pretty experienced in this stuff. So, its not that I am messing up on the methods, its just that there was a batch of phones that had the key combos disabled.
Once you get the new phone there is nothing they can do because they have already agreed to replace it. All they do with it is send it off to be refurbished and it is completely wiped clean. I agree with the others that you have not tried *everything* because I have yet to read a post on any forum about a legitimate bricking of this phone.
ukulele_ninja said:
Once you get the new phone there is nothing they can do because they have already agreed to replace it. All they do with it is send it off to be refurbished and it is completely wiped clean. I agree with the others that you have not tried *everything* because I have yet to read a post on any forum about a legitimate bricking of this phone.
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I can tell you that by flashing ONLY the pit file in odin another user and myself were able to succesfully make the phone unresponsive to all buttons, all methods and all pulls of the battery. it literally turned into a brick...then again i would call this an illegitimate method after realized how simple it is now. as long as i can get power to the phone thou i have to agree ive been able to save it every time now
ukulele_ninja said:
Once you get the new phone there is nothing they can do because they have already agreed to replace it. All they do with it is send it off to be refurbished and it is completely wiped clean. I agree with the others that you have not tried *everything* because I have yet to read a post on any forum about a legitimate bricking of this phone.
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Seriously?
I was up for six hours last night trying to fix the damn thing. I don't want to replace the phone just because I want to beat the system. I have never ran into problems when I am modding. I always figure it out, but when the phone is absolutely unresponsive to all keys, what am I going to do?
Anyways, this thread can be closed now.
That same screen (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8420/hum1e0.jpg) happened to me yesterday. I thought I had tried all of the key combos but I missed one.
Try the following: (I know you said you tried all of the methods, but I thought it was worth mentioning just in case)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989 (Method 3)
I hope if you have not tried that yet, that it will work for you and save you the hassle of going to ATT.
Alec5216
seems pretty complicated to flash this phone. My last one-Nokia N900- is very easy to work with. It never get bricked.
alec5216 said:
That same screen (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8420/hum1e0.jpg) happened to me yesterday. I thought I had tried all of the key combos but I missed one.
Try the following: (I know you said you tried all of the methods, but I thought it was worth mentioning just in case)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989 (Method 3)
I hope if you have not tried that yet, that it will work for you and save you the hassle of going to ATT.
Alec5216
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I tried that too, nothing. I got it exchanged. No hassle.
AT&T store rep just said the phone will be factory reset and there is nothing to it.
Anyway thanks for the help folks, really appreciate it.
Lets hope, I don't bust this one because the phone I just got is also impervious to key combos. I tried getting into recovery (just for the heck of it), it didnt work with the keys, had to do it with "adb reboot recovery".
I have a dead phone I'm toying with. It's not on with the network. This is my first attempt at rooting etc. I would like to just have it as a sort of game/fun/toy phone. I have a G1 from Tmobile that I use and not going to try and root until I get a new one, then perhaps also have that as a game/fun/toy phone. Anyway, I have a Sprint Hero and how I've been getting apps and such on it is by swapping SD cards and doing a back up or connect via wi fi from one of the sites with a list of freeware to download. I want to get rid of the apps that I don't want/need for this phone. I'm not going to use it to call people so I would like that off too if I could. I would like to keep the wi fi though. I am new to this and trying to figure everything out. I just got busybox and rom manager on the phone. So, now what? How do I get those annoying stock apps I don't want/need? I really don't need to change the whole face of it, just those apps to be removed and I'll be happy with it. Thanks
by the way
I forgot the build.
I'm on 2.31.651.7
rooted from one click that I found from the unlockr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hero_CDMA#Miscellaneous_Simple_How-To.27s.
Please search around, most of the common questions, more often than not, have already been answered.
ok thanks. it's just so time consuming to be sitting on the computer trying to search and read through so much. I don't sit on my butt all day staring at a screen. I have a baby and any screen time is when he's sleeping. It's just easier to ask and hope for an answer. I'll look through the links later. Thanks.
I also want it as some type of "toy" for him to play with instead of taking MY phone! lol. I have toddler lock on it and he seems to like it. But I don't really want him to have it until he stops "chewing" on it. My G1 case cover is ruined from him. lol. oh well. He likes to play with phones because everyone else does. They start early now. I downloaded all sort of kid games so when that day comes, I can say, here you go when he takes mine!
But I'm lost on figuring out if there is a program I need? Or if the superoneclick has it in the app. I have it on our Windows computer and I'm currently on our Mac. And that computer is so slow and now I have to spend the time to try and clean IT out. Its running Vista and I have a copy of 7 but I don't feel like dealing with all of that. sigh.
Does tethering work with phone to phone? Like connect my non network phone to my G1 for internet like when we go on vacation and my nonsmart phone partner wants to use the net and so do I, that we can share. I'm guessing USB cable would do that? I don't know, there is just so much to read up on for a newbe trying to figure it out. Time for sleep now.
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ok thanks. it's just so time consuming to be sitting on the computer trying to search and read through so much. I don't sit on my butt all day staring at a screen. I have a baby and any screen time is when he's sleeping. It's just easier to ask and hope for an answer. I'll look through the links later. Thanks.
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Well, nobody around here sits around on their butts staring at the screen, waiting for people like you to ask questions... so that they can answer. If you think of this as "Customer Service", think again. Everyone here has primary jobs, they do this because they like it and are passionate about it.
Having said that, nobody is saying "No" to answering questions... just try searching and looking up the obvious links, first.
Geeze. sorry. I just thought Maybe someone else maybe already had done it and point me in the right direction. I try searching and can't find anything in what I'm trying to do. So a here, try this and this and such would be nice. Thought I give a bg on what I wanted to do with it. And I'm still new and get lost around here. Tech langauage changes every 6 months along with the phones. I see "flash" and I think of the Adobe program or the flash on a camera. So forgive me. And I guess nevermind.
I agree with the others here. There is a wealth of tutorials available, and when used will achieve your goal of a "toy". However, I will help you out by providing a framework of things you will need to do. Bear in mind you will need to do the searching though. This way you will learn more about the phone, and you will have a better sense of what to do if something doesn't go right, etc.
First, you need to have your phone rooted. Rooting allows you full access over the phone. Most rooting utilities will install "Busybox", a set of binaries that grants you the ability to use special commands. Next, you will want to install a custom Recovery image. There are two mainstream ones available: Amon-RA and ClockworkMod. Either is fine. The recovery image allows you to make backups of your phone, install new ROMs, and reset settings, among other things. After the recovery image is installed, you will want to search for a list of "safe to delete apps".
I hope this helps you somewhat. If you have anymore questions feel free to PM me.
Mike
Hey guys, I want to first apologize for this post being a little out of place. Being a new user I dont have access to development forums so Im posting this here because this is the phone I have. I downloaded both of the last 2 super one click versions to try and root my phone. after following the process all the way to before rooting, int he top right you are supposed to switch the tab from psneuter to rageagainstthecage. When I click that box however there is no rageagainstthe cage option for either verstion, it is gingerbreak or psneuter. I tried clicking psneuter once and it stated and got to a point where it more or less froze, after 20 min i just alt f5 it and my phone still works. I tech savy guy when it comes to windows but know virtually nothing about linux accept a few terms. I dont want to do something to brick the phone and not entirely sure if I have messed up something so that there is no rageagainstthecage option. Also I was wondering, if you root the device are there updates that still download? For instance if i root by my os is still the stock and they finally come out with gingerbread what happens? Sorry again for misplacement of this thread, I have just been trying to find the answers online for 3 days and there hasnt been any information dealing with this type of problem that I have found. Thanks again
Edit: So I had checked this thread 2 days ago for my answer, and after posting and looking again it looks like a post from yesterday may have some answers, ill have to check when I get home to see if it works from me. Sorry again, I am very litteral so when Im told to do a step and it simply isnt there, it causes me concern, especially when skipping it doesnt work.
Hi There,
I would really appreciate some help with rooting my HTC Sensation XL which runs Android version 4.0.3.
I am not too sure if I have posted this in the right section so my apologies if I haven't.
OK so I have been trying for about 6 weeks now to ROOT my HTC. The only reason that I wish to do so is so that I can delete the apps that can not be deleted from the phone IE Facebook,Twitter & similar apps. I don't use them any more and because of this I would like them off the phone.
I have spent many of hours trawling the net to find guides and step by steps on how to do this. I wouldn't say I know/understand a lot of what it asks me to do but at the same time I have a little knowledge so that I am not completely in the dark.
But after reading several step by steps,reading about all the files I need,I end up getting lost and very confused half way through so I decided that perhaps an app that does it for me would be best.
I have seen SuperOneClick recommended several times so I thought I couldn't go wrong with it.
I downloaded the file from CNET.It is version 2.3.3. I extracted it,plugged my phone in via usb (made sure it was in debugging mode) and then clicked "RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR" on the actual SOC icon. It brought up the box and I clicked "ROOT". It scrolled and it looked like it was going well until step 7 where it hangs and just states "WAITING FOR DEVICE".I gave it some time but after an hour of it not changing from this,I guessed that something was wrong. Then when I try and click on the window,it becomes unresponsive and I have to force close it.
I have searched for solutions to this,one forum even suggested that I download an older version of SOC which I did. But it pretty much did the same thing,just a different message.
As I said,all I want to do is delete these apps so if anyone can shed some light on the problem I am having and how I can actually root the phone in the most simplest terms (talk to me as if I was your Nan!) then I would be very grateful.
Thank you for your time
Crystal
If any one could help or have any ideas I would be very grateful. Really desperate to do this.
Thanks
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625841
Or this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2093082
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