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Well, my girlfriend and her best friend are going to ireland, and I said I would let her use my captivate since it says" world phone" on boot up. Now, i have never dealt with anything like this, so how would I go about letting her use my cell phone and its full capabilities in ireland? Thanks. And sorry for posting in general! I thought I was in Q and A sorry!
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And sorry for posting in general! I thought I was in Q and A sorry!
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Please refer to the these guys
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306
I have been overseas with an AT&T Blackberry world phone. When you boot up a phone overseas, it will piggy back onto whatever compatible GSM network is in the area. But keep in mind, you will get charged out the @ass with intl roaming and dialing. It may be a good idea to call up at&t to get on board with an intl plan depending on how long she will be over there. Once you establish a network connection, you should be able to make phone calls, text, and surf the web, should the local network have internet access. At minimal, you will be able to talk and text.
I travel to Europe frequently. I purchase a prepaid sim card for each country. They are good for a year. I buy/recharge them there since they cost half of what they do when purchased in the USA. The advantage is having a country local number with no roaming or LD charges for local calls. Even calling back to North America is less expensive than roaming on AT&T. The handset must not be sim locked. Check it by dialing *#7465625#.
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I travel to Europe frequently. I purchase a prepaid sim card for each country. They are good for a year. I buy/recharge them there since they cost half of what they do when purchased in the USA. The advantage is having a country local number with no roaming or LD charges for local calls. Even calling back to North America is less expensive than roaming on AT&T. The handset must not be sim locked. Check it by dialing *#7465625#.
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I've done this too. But it all depends on how long and how frequent the person will be over there. If she's going just for a two week vacation...getting the phone unlocked and putting in a sim card from a local carrier wouldn't be the way to go.
Captivate is Quad-band GSM (That's "World Phone").. But only Tri-band WCDMA, so no 3G/HSPA in Europe
I think you must put in your internal SDCard a couple of modems, from Europe i9000 900/1700mhz WCDMA, and American 850/1900MHz WCDMA..
When you're in a 900/1700Mhz country, flash with CWM the Europe's modem..
And, in USA, flash the 850/1900MHz modem..
All this, to avoid issues..
If you're going to just use your AT&T SIM card, internation roaming is like $2+/m for voice, $1 per SMS and data is pay per use. So basically, you need a bag of money to support it. Even if you sign up international roaming plan, it has plenty of caveat you need to know (you have to pay at least a month before hand etc.).
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Captivate is Quad-band GSM (That's "World Phone").. But only Tri-band WCDMA, so no 3G/HSPA in Europe
I think you must put in your internal SDCard a couple of modems, from Europe i9000 900/1700mhz WCDMA, and American 850/1900MHz WCDMA..
When you're in a 900/1700Mhz country, flash with CWM the Europe's modem..
And, in USA, flash the 850/1900MHz modem..
All this, to avoid issues..
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The Captivate is quad-band GSM and quad-band UTMS. The hardware is limited to GSM850/900/1800/1900 and UMTS 850/900/1900/2100. The Captivate will never do 1700MHz no matter what modem firmware you install on it. Luckily, since most of Europe uses 900Mhz or 2100Mhz for UMTS (3G) anyone who takes a Captivate to Europe should be all set. T-Mobile USA and a few Canadian carriers are the only ones I know of using 1700Mhz.
If you are going to reply to a thread like this, at least look up your data and make sure it is accurate.
Make sure that your girlfriend either uses prepaid SIM cards (then you need to make sure your phone is unlocked first) or you call AT&T and sign up for an international roaming plan & allow international calling on your phone. Without an international plan you will be charged higher rates for her to any phone numbers. Without international calling, she will be unable to dial any numbers except for US numbers. You can cancel the international plan at any time (so you can only pay for an international plan for 1 month instead of the rest of your contract).
Even with an international plan, calling will be very expensive, make sure you are aware of the rates. Also make sure that your girlfriend knows how to make calls, AT&T should explain it to you when you sign up for international. For example, to dial back to the US, she will have to dial 1+ the 10 digit number.
If she can find free wifi hotspots, you can also install a SIP/VoIP application such as Skype, Fring or Nimbuzz which have much cheaper rates. Applications such as these allow for free calling to another Skype/Fring/Numbuzz user and low rates to physical phone numbers (sometimes as low as $.01 per minute).
edit: Oops, I almost forgot, skype only works on Galaxy S phones if you are running Froyo.
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For example, to dial back to the US, she will have to dial 1+ the 10 digit number.
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Wrong. Dial '+1' then area code and phone numbers. Although 1 with area code and phone numbers may work but it depends on how the local carriers handle it.
+ is universal way to tell carriers that there is a country code after it. Country code for US and Canada is 1. Other countries may have 2 or 3 digits country codes.
if you want to use local sim card, make sure your phone is network unlocked.
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Wrong. Dial '+1' then area code and phone numbers. Although 1 with area code and phone numbers may work but it depends on how the local carriers handle it.
+ is universal way to tell carriers that there is a country code after it. Country code for US and Canada is 1. Other countries may have 2 or 3 digits country codes.
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Sorry if I caused any confusion. I meant dial 1 "plus" the 10 digit phone number. From China I have not had to use the "+1" but it surely does not hurt to include the "+" in case it is needed.
For context let me say that I live in the US, currently on Verizon, but not on contract. I have been waiting since February for a device worthy of upgrading from my Droid Incredible. This is the phone for me.
Given that the US carriers seem incapable of getting new high-end hardware (7 months for SGSII to launch here is the US!!!), and that there has been no announcement of this phone on any US carrier, I am planning for the worst.
I am unfamiliar with GSM networks, having been on Verizon's CDMA for 10+years. My understanding is that I simply need a SIM card from a GSM carrier, say AT&T, and an "unlocked" GSNote from the UK. Is there any risk this won't work? I would hate to spend a ton of money for a phone I can't use.
Any news on a US release.
The galaxy note selling right now is unlock and the 3G band will work on AT&T USA 850/1900 bands and get edge on tmobile.
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3G > Edge?
Does it use standard SIM or the new Micro SIM?
Any suggestions on where / who to buy from in UK? Reputable seller.
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3G > Edge?
Does it use standard SIM or the new Micro SIM?
Any suggestions on where / who to buy from in UK? Reputable seller.
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Yes, 3G > EDGE. EDGE is the GSM equivalent to 1x.
The biggest benefit of GSM network is the ability to swap phones around by just swapping the sim card as long the phone is network unlocked.
GNote from europe is network unlocked.
All you have to do is visit and att store, get a sim and a plan.
Once u get a sim and a number, u can put it in any gsm phone and use it .
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3G > Edge?
Does it use standard SIM or the new Micro SIM?
Any suggestions on where / who to buy from in UK? Reputable seller.
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Im using AT&T and I order the device from mobilecotyonline.com but no ETA but negrielectronics have instock also in the US the two retailers sell the unlock device with AT&T 3G bands and regular SIM Card.
Buy an unlocked Samsung Galaxy Note. Put it on Straight Talk Mobile prepaid for $45/month which uses AT&T's network. You would have to buy a refurbed Nokia E71 phone for $99 to do it and put the sim card in the Note with some settings changes. You get unlimited talk/text/data with no contract using AT&T's 3G network.
I too must have this device. My contract with verizon ends in a couple of weeks and i was planning to renew and get the galaxy nexus but after seeing the galaxy note, well....anyway i'd like to wait for the korean release of the note since it's supposed to have lte. will that model work on verizon or do i need to switch to at&t no matter what? if the lte note will work on verizon, i was thinking getting the nexus with contract renewal and then selling it to get the note.
Seth - I can recommend Expansys.co.uk
Received mine the day after they got it in stock.
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leaverus said:
I too must have this device. My contract with verizon ends in a couple of weeks and i was planning to renew and get the galaxy nexus but after seeing the galaxy note, well....anyway i'd like to wait for the korean release of the note since it's supposed to have lte. will that model work on verizon or do i need to switch to at&t no matter what? if the lte note will work on verizon, i was thinking getting the nexus with contract renewal and then selling it to get the note.
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Verizon uses CDMA which is not compatible if the Korean version is GSM. Only way is if it was released as a world phone with both CDMA and GSM built in.
What about speeds?
It sounds like getting a European version will limit the data speeds here in the US due to compatibility of data technology faster than 3G. I don't know if T-Mobile or AT&T have anything faster than 3G, but the CDMA carriers (Sprint and Verizon) have 4G (WiMax/LTE) data.
So I could wait for any US carrier to offer it, but it seems only Sprint or Verizon would provide high speed data. If only T-Mobile or AT&T carry it I would do better to get one from UK to get it earlier.
Of course all these issues would go away if US carriers would get decent f'ing hardware!!!
Why is it that all the good stuff launches in Europe first anyway?
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It sounds like getting a European version will limit the data speeds here in the US due to compatibility of data technology faster than 3G. I don't know if T-Mobile or AT&T have anything faster than 3G, but the CDMA carriers (Sprint and Verizon) have 4G (WiMax/LTE) data.
So I could wait for any US carrier to offer it, but it seems only Sprint or Verizon would provide high speed data. If only T-Mobile or AT&T carry it I would do better to get one from UK to get it earlier.
Of course all these issues would go away if US carriers would get decent f'ing hardware!!!
Why is it that all the good stuff launches in Europe first anyway?
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I almost sure for thi syear non US carrier launch the Note,You can wait to see but if you like a carrier have this device remember just AT&T 3G?HSPA+ version pass the FCC till the moment and I think is because they know users in the US sure buy this device and they test to skip future problems not because a carrier in the US have this.
I am a bit confused. Would it have faster than 3G data if it was released on T-Mobile or AT&T as opposed to importing one from Europe?
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I am a bit confused. Would it have faster than 3G data if it was released on T-Mobile or AT&T as opposed to importing one from Europe?
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The speed of your device is influence by your carrier the device is ready to run like from 28 to 40 M,sorry don‘t be more specific but you can check the database of the device.
OP, if you leave Verizon for AT&T you'll get HSPA+ speeds (aka: fake 4G). You can typically expect 3MBish down in areas where AT&T hasn't upgraded their backhaul and 6-8MB down where they have. Anybody that uses a non-AWS device on T-Mobile is nuts.
Because the device isn't recognized on AT&T's network you can save a bunch of money on voice and data. You can get a $39.99 450 minute voice plan (900 = $59.99) with 5,000 nights and weekends minutes (900 = unlimited). Add unlimited messaging with mobile to any mobile calling (any mobile on any carrier) for $20 and you can add unlimited data for $10 on the data for non-Smartphones plan. So you're close to a truly unlimited plan for $69.99 a month. Also, if you bring your own equipment (tell them you're using a Moto Krzr) you can go contract-less and leave any time you want. I did this in May coming from T-Mobile when I got my ISGS2. I don't know if you travel internationally but, if you do, having AT&T and an unlocked phone is a joy. They have great international data roaming plans and you can also buy a pay-as-you-go plan in any country you visit and just pop the SIM in to the Note. If you want to go the route I described you have to do it over the phone, it can't be done online.
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I am a bit confused. Would it have faster than 3G data if it was released on T-Mobile or AT&T as opposed to importing one from Europe?
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No, HSPA+ is the fastest speed you can get on AT&T short of LTE. The ASGS2 and ISGS2 get the same speeds on AT&T's network with a theoretical max of 21MB down. If AT&T introduces an LTE version of the Note then yes, that would be faster. T-Mobile's a non-starter because: A) they use funky bands that aren't typically supported by international devices, and B) they'll probably be gone soon anyway.
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OP, if you leave Verizon for AT&T you'll get HSPA+ speeds (aka: fake 4G). You can typically expect 3MBish down in areas where AT&T hasn't upgraded their backhaul and 6-8MB down where they have. Anybody that uses a non-AWS device on T-Mobile is nuts.
Because the device isn't recognized on AT&T's network you can save a bunch of money on voice and data. You can get a $39.99 450 minute voice plan (900 = $59.99) with 5,000 nights and weekends minutes (900 = unlimited). Add unlimited messaging with mobile to any mobile calling (any mobile on any carrier) for $20 and you can add unlimited data for $10 on the data for non-Smartphones plan. So you're close to a truly unlimited plan for $69.99 a month. Also, if you bring your own equipment (tell them you're using a Moto Krzr) you can go contract-less and leave any time you want. I did this in May coming from T-Mobile when I got my ISGS2. I don't know if you travel internationally but, if you do, having AT&T and an unlocked phone is a joy. They have great international data roaming plans and you can also buy a pay-as-you-go plan in any country you visit and just pop the SIM in to the Note. If you want to go the route I described you have to do it over the phone, it can't be done online
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thnx, this is probably exactly what i'll do since i'm coming from verizon as well. but i think i'm gonna wait for the release of the lte version in korea and import that. will at&t send me a sim card with new service??
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OP, if you leave Verizon for AT&T you'll get HSPA+ speeds (aka: fake 4G). You can typically expect 3MBish down in areas where AT&T hasn't upgraded their backhaul and 6-8MB down where they have. Anybody that uses a non-AWS device on T-Mobile is nuts.
Because the device isn't recognized on AT&T's network you can save a bunch of money on voice and data. You can get a $39.99 450 minute voice plan (900 = $59.99) with 5,000 nights and weekends minutes (900 = unlimited). Add unlimited messaging with mobile to any mobile calling (any mobile on any carrier) for $20 and you can add unlimited data for $10 on the data for non-Smartphones plan. So you're close to a truly unlimited plan for $69.99 a month. Also, if you bring your own equipment (tell them you're using a Moto Krzr) you can go contract-less and leave any time you want. I did this in May coming from T-Mobile when I got my ISGS2. I don't know if you travel internationally but, if you do, having AT&T and an unlocked phone is a joy. They have great international data roaming plans and you can also buy a pay-as-you-go plan in any country you visit and just pop the SIM in to the Note. If you want to go the route I described you have to do it over the phone, it can't be done online.
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Thank you for this suggestion. I am coming from T-mobile and I will switch over to AT&T because I need fast internet speed for the Note.
BarryH_GEG said:
Because the device isn't recognized on AT&T's network you can save a bunch of money on voice and data.
Also, if you bring your own equipment (tell them you're using a Moto Krzr) you can go contract-less and leave any time you want. I did this in May coming from T-Mobile when I got my ISGS2.
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once the ISGS2 got released on AT&T, don't they notice? or they still don't because it's a different model number?
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leaverus said:
thnx, this is probably exactly what i'll do since i'm coming from verizon as well. but i think i'm gonna wait for the release of the lte version in korea and import that. will at&t send me a sim card with new service??
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Two things. The Korean versions of Samsung products are optimized for the two Korean carriers. They are tri-band, not quad-band like the rest of the world and don't support AT&T's bands. Also, LTE is a moving target. There are over a dozen different spectrums in use worldwide so there's no assurance a device designated LTE will work with a specific carrier. VZW and AT&T both use the 700 series bands yet their devices are incompatible.
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once the ISGS2 got released on AT&T, don't they notice? or they still don't because it's a different model number?
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They can detect a phone's model based on its IMEI. They don't have the IMEI's for international phones in their database. The exception being Google phones (including the new Galaxy Nexus) because Google makes that data available to them. So they can't identify an ISGS2 as a smartphone. The ASGS2 is both a different model number and they have the IMEIs for all of those models produced.
Might suggest sticking with Verizon buy the phone out right and get the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Mobile Hotspot then use that as your data and if you need to talk VOIP / SIP never worry about min. Benefit you can use the MIFI on your laptop and any other Wifi enabled devices. Other benefit is the price a heck of a lot cheaper than those Cell contracts. Just an idea..
Hello fellow XDA-ers,
I'll be going to Italy in May and I would like to know if they offer prepaid lines with data packages and international calling. I'm going to be using my HTC Amaze, which i still have to get unlocked. Another question is, would I be getting 2G or 3g/4g speeds with my phone?
Any help or info is definitely appreciated. Thanks in advanced.
Every Op sales data connection with prepaid sim. The average signal is good in cities, where, expecially in open spaces, 3g/4g works well. But if you go away, and reach country, the signal will be very low (sometimes gprs). For international calls, i can't help you
Having been in Poland on prepaid, it's too expensive to call international lol. You'd be better off with a calling card.
I have a LG G2 and I am no longer under contract to Verizon, so I just pay VZW month to month for my service.
My questions here are:
Can I switched to Walmarts Straight Talk with my G2?
Would I still have the same coverage (4G) area on Straight Talk?
Thank you
No one has any info on this?
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No one has any info on this?
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AFAIK you have to buy one of their phones to use CDMA networks. Only the gsm carriers have the bring your own phone on ST.
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AFAIK you have to buy one of their phones to use CDMA networks. Only the gsm carriers have the bring your own phone on ST.
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Isn't the G2 CDMA and GSM capible??
Yes it is.
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There are people who wrote a method to flash a sprint epic to straight talk Verizon towers that works on sprint Note 2s. One of the intermediate steps flashes a vzw phone. CDMA workshop and a little bit of work can make it happen.
hd-renegade said:
I have a LG G2 and I am no longer under contract to Verizon, so I just pay VZW month to month for my service.
My questions here are:
Can I switched to Walmarts Straight Talk with my G2?
Would I still have the same coverage (4G) area on Straight Talk?
Thank you
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I looked into this a while back, since it sounded so wonderful in the commercials. I don't think Straight Talk offers any 4G service, but I could be wrong. It may be available on their GSM towers. Either way, if you follow the link below for "bring your own phone," then click on CMDA, the next page states BYOP does not work on 4G phones.
http://straighttalkbyop.com/
I seem to remember them selling a 3G Samsung S3 when I was looking into their service. That kind of put me off of them.
zandroid said:
I looked into this a while back, since it sounded so wonderful in the commercials. I don't think Straight Talk offers any 4G service, but I could be wrong. It may be available on their GSM towers. Either way, if you follow the link below for "bring your own phone," then click on CMDA, the next page states BYOP does not work on 4G phones.
http://straighttalkbyop.com/
I seem to remember them selling a 3G Samsung S3 when I was looking into their service. That kind of put me off of them.
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Thank you, I sort of figured maybe it was to good to be true.
Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
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Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
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Another thank you on good info for this.
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Straight talk=3g only and vzw network only. No roaming networks.
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You can get a LTE sim with ATT now on ST. Don't know if you can make it work in a VZW g2, but it should work fine in the ATT g2.
Okay, correction to my post. If you want vzw towers on st you have to have only vzw towers if you have a CDMA only phone. You can fflash to their sprint based service and only have sprint service (probably, not sure if they have donors to hack). Their sim networks are Att/T-Mobile. I haven't heard of anybody flashing to the st vzw towers with a vzw sim equipped phone and using one of their sims. That might be useful if you were in a place that regularly has simbased services and occasionally went to the boonies- you could just switch which service was active assuming you get better speed or home coverage on the sim service. Also useful for international (read: not north American) roaming.
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I realize that this is an old thread but I just switched to Straight Talk from Verizon and thought I would share this. After the switch (I kept my number from Verizon) my phone still shows Verizon Wireless on the lock screen, still says VZWInternet for my APN settings and still shows that I am getting 4GLTE. I am actually on Straight Talk service though as I have my SIM from ST in my phone. I didnt have to use an ATT sim or anything. I registered CDMA on the Straight Talk site before I switched my phone number over. Hope this is useful to anyone thinking about switching over.
Verizon is a straighttalk's carrier so basically your phone is still working under Verizon wireless.
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Just to shed a little light on this, while Straight Talk might operate on VZW towers in some regions, VZW does not authorize straight talk to use phones like the LG G2. One of the powers of CDMA is they can pre-approve select serial numbers for certain carriers, thus VZW knows every single phone ever manufactured for their network and can selectively choose which can be authorized to connect. Thats why you have to go through all the crazy phone cloning to get CDMA phones to look like authorized devices.
Anyway, ST operates on both CDMA and GSM in certain markets. When operating on GSM they utilize AT&T. The LG G2 can only connect to ST if you are using the native unlocked GSM mode. Thats right, all Verizon LG G2 phones are GSM unlocked. So if Straight Talk offers a GSM service through ATT in your area then you can use Straight Talk. If you are trying to connect to Straight Talk's CDMA service (verizon towers) it will not work. Of course you can also use your G2 on any GSM carrier, so T-mobile is also a good player here as they offer some pretty attractive plans, namely their $30/month 5GB/100minute plan. If you have a google voice number you can use Hangouts to place calls that count against data and not minutes, thus you have an Unlimited voice plan with 5GB data for $30/month.
RunNgun42 said:
Just to shed a little light on this, while Straight Talk might operate on VZW towers in some regions, VZW does not authorize straight talk to use phones like the LG G2. One of the powers of CDMA is they can pre-approve select serial numbers for certain carriers, thus VZW knows every single phone ever manufactured for their network and can selectively choose which can be authorized to connect. Thats why you have to go through all the crazy phone cloning to get CDMA phones to look like authorized devices.
Anyway, ST operates on both CDMA and GSM in certain markets. When operating on GSM they utilize AT&T. The LG G2 can only connect to ST if you are using the native unlocked GSM mode. Thats right, all Verizon LG G2 phones are GSM unlocked. So if Straight Talk offers a GSM service through ATT in your area then you can use Straight Talk. If you are trying to connect to Straight Talk's CDMA service (verizon towers) it will not work. Of course you can also use your G2 on any GSM carrier, so T-mobile is also a good player here as they offer some pretty attractive plans, namely their $30/month 5GB/100minute plan. If you have a google voice number you can use Hangouts to place calls that count against data and not minutes, thus you have an Unlimited voice plan with 5GB data for $30/month.
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Er, no. "Phone cloning" was necessary for using devices on older 3G-only MVNOs, but it's no longer the case now that Verizon uses SIM cards. (as do many Verizon MVNOs, like Straight Talk, Pageplus, etc)
As long as the G2 is in good standing (IMEI/ESN not blacklisted due to non-payment/stolen phone/etc), you can use it on ST. All you need to do is request a Verizon SIM from ST CS, pop it in the phone, and go. The $45 for Unlimited/Unlimited/5GB BYOP plan works fine on Verizon. Hell, as long as you have an activated SIM card, you can even use non-Verizon-approved LTE devices on a Verizon plan as long as it has the necessary LTE bands.
Why are you reviving an old, dead topic with outdated information?
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Er, no. "Phone cloning" was necessary for using devices on older 3G-only MVNOs, but it's no longer the case now that Verizon uses SIM cards. (as do many Verizon MVNOs, like Straight Talk, Pageplus, etc)
As long as the G2 is in good standing (IMEI/ESN not blacklisted due to non-payment/stolen phone/etc), you can use it on ST. All you need to do is request a Verizon SIM from ST CS, pop it in the phone, and go. The $45 for Unlimited/Unlimited/5GB BYOP plan works fine on Verizon. Hell, as long as you have an activated SIM card, you can even use non-Verizon-approved LTE devices on a Verizon plan as long as it has the necessary LTE bands.
Why are you reviving an old, dead topic with outdated information?
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Thanks for the info, I was misinformed. Since I just canceled with Verizon and ate the ETF penalty, I still have my Verizon 4G sim. Can I use that with ST? Or do I still need to order an official ST branded sim to use with Verizon?
RunNgun42 said:
Thanks for the info, I was misinformed. Since I just canceled with Verizon and ate the ETF penalty, I still have my Verizon 4G sim. Can I use that with ST? Or do I still need to order an official ST branded sim to use with Verizon?
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ST will give you a SIM when you sign up, but be sure that it's for the Verizon network.
If you're ordering over the phone, just tell the rep that you want it for Verizon.
If you're doing it in store, make sure you're getting the ST Activation Kit for Verizon. Apparently not all Walmarts carry the ST Verizon kit, so you might have to order over the phone/on ST's website.
Once you get it, just pop it in your Verizon G2 and you're good to go.
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ST will give you a SIM when you sign up, but be sure that it's for the Verizon network.
If you're ordering over the phone, just tell the rep that you want it for Verizon.
If you're doing it in store, make sure you're getting the ST Activation Kit for Verizon. Apparently not all Walmarts carry the ST Verizon kit, so you might have to order over the phone/on ST's website.
Once you get it, just pop it in your Verizon G2 and you're good to go.
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What seems so unreal about this is that I'm paying for Verizon service for less than Verizon charges. How the hell does that work for them? Does Verizon just make most of their money roping people into contracts for new phone subsidies? Do they severely deprioritize non VZW customers to the point that ST might be miserable on their network?
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What seems so unreal about this is that I'm paying for Verizon service for less than Verizon charges. How the hell does that work for them? Does Verizon just make most of their money roping people into contracts for new phone subsidies? Do they severely deprioritize non VZW customers to the point that ST might be miserable on their network?
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There are a few of catches to ST's service, which apply to other Verizon MVNOs as well:
1) Verizon postpaid has roaming on 3rd party networks, while prepaid and MVNOs are limited to Verizon's native network only.
2) Verizon MVNOs have lower priority than Verizon-proper. On congested towers, ST and other MVNOs will have the slowest speeds.
3) Similar to the above, all Verizon MVNOs are capped at 5mbps LTE speeds. So not only do ST/MVNOs have the lowest priority, but even on uncongested towers their speeds are limited.
On the plus side, you get Verizon coverage, the largest data bucket at the $45 price point (5GB), and no additional charges/suspended data after you use your allotment (ST throttles to 64kbps after).
If priority and speeds are important, Verizon Prepaid has unlimited talk+text+2GB data (suspended after unless you pay for more) for $45. Higher priority than MVNOs and no speed restrictions.
Just got my ATT note 3
and i am looking at GO phone or h20 wireless...
Go phone which i was told works with exact service as ATT and also supports 4G LTE
$60 x unlimited talk text, 2gb data
H20 wireless
Unlimited talk , text , 5GB x $60
but does not support LTE
for what i know h20 wireless works off ATT as well but not sure if it gets the same reception as Go phone...
Main think im concern with cell reception i need to have reception even in the desert.. which one would work best
I obviously prefer having LTE service.. but Dont know what is ATT 3g speeds..
Just for reference. The go phone network and the att network are not the same. The go phone is only about one fifth the coverage.
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I have been lied to then..LOL
I thought go phone's network was recently upgraded/allowed to use full network including LTE connection ..
I travel constantly from
Los angeles, Inland Empire ( Ontario-Redlands), San diego
AZ
LAS VEGAS
Will go phone give me any issues?
TIA
Ma$etas said:
I have been lied to then..LOL
I thought go phone's network was recently upgraded/allowed to use full network including LTE connection ..
I travel constantly from
Los angeles, Inland Empire ( Ontario-Redlands), San diego
AZ
LAS VEGAS
Will go phone give me any issues?
TIA
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crxlvr said:
Just for reference. The go phone network and the att network are not the same. The go phone is only about one fifth the coverage.
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i wouldnt necessarily say that.. ive had gophone for sometime now and my girlfriend has postpaid contract at&t. we both travel from miami and texas and me and her literally have almost always the same service, lte speed wise along with cell coverage. the GoPhone LTE speeds are even faster then when i was on Verizon LTE Postpaid service. id advise you going with Gophone as im sure at&t would give there customers first priority on towers over a third party company plus you also get LTE. Only difference i was told between gophone and postpaid is priority on towers but i can tell you being with gophone so far i havent seen any issues (i.e dropped calls, not receiving text, calls not going through) but take that with a grain of salt everyone's experience is different if you do choose gophone ask them to give you a postpaid sim card seems to work better lte wise when i was at the store
EDIT: okay so i found the "coverage" map on Coverage Map Link and it is definately not only 1/5th of the coverage lmao id say the only differences im seeing is certain unpopulated areas you dont get as good or any reception on gophone as you would on contract. remember to choose "GoPhone® Pick Your Plan" as the other gophone option is for by the minute.
dxjay said:
i wouldnt necessarily say that.. ive had gophone for sometime now and my girlfriend has postpaid contract at&t. we both travel from miami and texas and me and her literally have almost always the same service, lte speed wise along with cell coverage. the GoPhone LTE speeds are even faster then when i was on Verizon LTE Postpaid service. id advise you going with Gophone as im sure at&t would give there customers first priority on towers over a third party company plus you also get LTE. Only difference i was told between gophone and postpaid is priority on towers but i can tell you being with gophone so far i havent seen any issues (i.e dropped calls, not receiving text, calls not going through) but take that with a grain of salt everyone's experience is different if you do choose gophone ask them to give you a postpaid sim card seems to work better lte wise when i was at the store
EDIT: okay so i found the "coverage" map on Coverage Map Link and it is definately not only 1/5th of the coverage lmao id say the only differences im seeing is certain unpopulated areas you dont get as good or any reception on gophone as you would on contract. remember to choose "GoPhone® Pick Your Plan" as the other gophone option is for by the minute.
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Thanks for the reply.. and i will ask for that sim hopefully they do give me it..
Im going to connect it in about 2 weeks. will see how it goes...will post my experience..
I have been on gophone $60 plan for months. I was a post paid customer on att and did not notice a difference in service at all when I switched. For me it is just like being in a contract plan. I would go for it if I was you. You can always go back to a contract if you have a problem.
MrSub said:
I have been on gophone $60 plan for months. I was a post paid customer on att and did not notice a difference in service at all when I switched. For me it is just like being in a contract plan. I would go for it if I was you. You can always go back to a contract if you have a problem.
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Does the 2gb last a whole month?
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For me it does. I am on Wi-Fi at work and then I go home and have Wi-Fi there.
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Ma$etas said:
Just got my ATT note 3
and i am looking at GO phone or h20 wireless...
Go phone which i was told works with exact service as ATT and also supports 4G LTE
$60 x unlimited talk text, 2gb data
H20 wireless
Unlimited talk , text , 5GB x $60
but does not support LTE
for what i know h20 wireless works off ATT as well but not sure if it gets the same reception as Go phone...
Main think im concern with cell reception i need to have reception even in the desert.. which one would work best
I obviously prefer having LTE service.. but Dont know what is ATT 3g speeds..
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I am using my Note 3 on Go Phone since couple of months. Never had coverage issue. I have traveled to New York, New Jersey, Minneapolis-St Paul metro and never had coverage issue. LTE works great, just like the post-paid service I had earlier with Note 2.
And just FYI, I recharge GoPhone from ebay. $60 recharge costs me $50 with no tax.
AlwaysNoob said:
I am using my Note 3 on Go Phone since couple of months. Never had coverage issue. I have traveled to New York, New Jersey, Minneapolis-St Paul metro and never had coverage issue. LTE works great, just like the post-paid service I had earlier with Note 2.
And just FYI, I recharge GoPhone from ebay. $60 recharge costs me $50 with no tax.
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Great I am gonna go with go phone .
Thanks for the tip on eBay refill
I have a important question is sending and receiving pictures part of the 2gb? Like will it use data from it? I hope it doesn't does anyone know?
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