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[Q] New Captivate; update worth it?

I Just recieved my new captivate (sent the other one in for warranty issues) in the mail, and am wondering if it's worth it to upgrade this 100% stock captivate to JH7, or if I should wait for 2.2?

Another suggestion
Upgrade to the Cognition ROM...you get JH7 with a lot of other goodies... http://cognition.theidiotshideout.net/phpmyfaq/index.php?action=show&cat=1
The GPS issue appears to have been resolved with this ROM, and the whole phone seems quite a bit snappier.

ag4vr said:
Upgrade to the Cognition ROM...you get JH7 with a lot of other goodies... http://cognition.theidiotshideout.net/phpmyfaq/index.php?action=show&cat=1
The GPS issue appears to have been resolved with this ROM, and the whole phone seems quite a bit snappier.
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That's awesome; I'm gone for a week-ish and THIS pops up?
Major thanks.

+1 for the Cognition ROM... I have had my device 2 days now and the first thing I did on night #1 was blow away all that ATT and Samsung [email protected] and load Cog.... this ROM rocks... super fast for me. No telling when 2.2 will be baked enough on our devices for me to use it as my daily driver.... weeks maybe....

Flashed Cognition 2.1; Works wonderfully, sans GPS... This phone is turning out to be a real debbie downer in that department.

My GPS has been somewhat OK.... for the 3 times I used it, it was pretty darn close. It drifted a little when driving highway speeds, but crap, close enough for me most times. I think my phone is a late build... I waited for a while to pick one up due to the glass shortage that occurred earlier... curious, can we tell when our units left the factory, and if so, I wonder if they are coming out with different GPS chips on them?
One last thought - did you do a batt pull once your new ROM was in place? Just shooting off ideas... I hope it starts working better for you... I am really liking this phone compared to my Bold 9000.

jaxf250 said:
My GPS has been somewhat OK.... for the 3 times I used it, it was pretty darn close. It drifted a little when driving highway speeds, but crap, close enough for me most times. I think my phone is a late build... I waited for a while to pick one up due to the glass shortage that occurred earlier... curious, can we tell when our units left the factory, and if so, I wonder if they are coming out with different GPS chips on them?
One last thought - did you do a batt pull once your new ROM was in place? Just shooting off ideas... I hope it starts working better for you... I am really liking this phone compared to my Bold 9000.
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I've never gotten a lock with either of my Captivates; What do you mean by a battery pull? Just lug the battery out of the phone while it's running and put it back in? I'm curious as to how that would be beneficial to GPS. (I've done a reset, but that's about it)

snapplefish said:
I've never gotten a lock with either of my Captivates; What do you mean by a battery pull? Just lug the battery out of the phone while it's running and put it back in? I'm curious as to how that would be beneficial to GPS. (I've done a reset, but that's about it)
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Yes, exactly. Pull the battery out, wait for a minute, put it back in and reboot. In many cases, this has (for me) fixed weird little issues after ROM updates etc. I have no evidence that this would affect the GPS in your case, but I thought I'd mention any tips/methods that have helped me in the past.

Yeah a battery pull usually solves a lot of issues when upgrading roms...I've had t so that twice.
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Anyone else never had gps working?

It seems that no matter what mods/roms I tried gps has been able to get and keep a lock while using maps or navigation. Am I the only one?
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Somehow the other day I got it to lock,stay locked and navigate me for a while but it wasn't perfect.it would basically just jump back to the spot where I really was
Yay no more fc

zavier100 said:
It seems that no matter what mods/roms I tried gps has been able to get and keep a lock while using maps or navigation. Am I the only one?
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I have seriously wondered why this is,....even thought about making a post about it, but
In every rom I have ran so far I have never had an issue. I have consistently gotten 8-12 satellites and the first 8 lock within seconds. Since I got my new car mount I have been running the "GPS Test" application and just let it go while I drive. I even went as far as to get the Track Me app and traced my drive to and from work.
I only seem to see complaints about GPS but I have had nothing but a great experience. The worst performance I have had is with the "Cog 2.2 Beta1" and I still do not feel it was sub par performance.
I know this is the opposite of what you asked but I thought it might be informative. Could this be a sign that the problem is hardware and not software?

The glgps daemon, jupiter.xml, and you! (How to make the GPS behave better)

Hi Vibrant owners!
I made a post over in the Captivate forum about how we can configure the GLGPS daemon in our phones (this is used to control the GPS behavior)
Attached are some update.zips with a new glgps daemon pulled from the Nexus S, secgps.conf and a jupiter.xml configuration inside. The GPS chipset is common among all SGS models, so this should work for you. Please try it, feedback is appreciated!

Sweet!
Sent from the helm of the vibrant Galaxy S!

I thought the vibrant does not use the jupiter.xml
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I know at least one model of Vibrant does (Bell), not sure about the others (CDMA does not I believe)

With the vibrant froyo leaks, we now use gpsd and jupiter.xml Samsung decided to make it the same across the board. At least for the i9k, cap and vib. Not sure aboit the epic and fascinate though
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i really don't understand these "fix your gps" threads. Hasn't it already been fixed a while back with the newer 2.2 roms? Mine is just fine now.

boodies said:
i really don't understand these "fix your gps" threads. Hasn't it already been fixed a while back with the newer 2.2 roms? Mine is just fine now.
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Wow. Your like saying that people doesn't have to fix their gps if yours has been already fixed.

im saying if you've upgraded to a new rom like most here then it should have been fixed. what kind of fix are you expecting a 100/100 Sat lock the instant you turn on the GPS app?

boodies said:
im saying if you've upgraded to a new rom like most here then it should have been fixed.
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Yeah it should have been fixed, but to some it isn't. Maybe because of the hardware or other issues.
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what kind of fix are you expecting a 100/100 Sat lock the instant you turn on the GPS app?
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I'm not expecting that, we all just want it to be usable like having a better accuracy.

sorry it's getting late and my brain is not fully functional ^_^ though it is sorta confusing how the same hardware can produce different results with the newer 2.2 roms.

It's not the same though.
The antenna got revised in October 2010. See the post about the gps fix in the Vibrant general forum.
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ic... that's even more depressing lol. you would think a newer antenna would fix it.

boodies said:
ic... that's even more depressing lol. you would think a newer antenna would fix it.
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It seems the newer antenna did fix it - the older design is unreliable so "identical" hardware can have different GPS performance depending on how much the connection has worked loose.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970

if you compare to HTC model like HD2, you will see that vibrant is very slow altough gps is fixed...I once use htc hd2 with MDJ mod for android GPS is real fast, never more than one minutes from start ( case compared when u totally delete gps data) I don't know how HTC did it...just for your guy to concern

My GPS has never worked and I've tried every ROM and every fix. Sure I can get a lock on 8 of 12 satellites, and I can easily get 10 foot accuracy. As soon as I try to use Navigation, it sucks. It'll jump around by a few feet here and there, and that's enough to totally throw off the navigation. All of a sudden it thinks I'm the wrong street and its telling me to turn around.

im sorry guys, that sucks. mine has been fine for a while now. and i navigate quite a bit as I am new to Cali. Initially it truly pissed me off when I was on 2.1, telling me i'm staying on the highway when i infact took the off ramp etc... lol. I'd get a replacement.

Can anyone ever say the word GPS without sending everyone into a pissing frenzy?
BACK ON TOPIC:
OP which one do you recommend starting out on for us Vibrant owners?

I highly.. very highly recommend Sombionix' Nero 3. I've used a lot of roms and this one is very very fast. And I usually refrain from saying "fast" because most phones are initially fast when new roms are installed but this one definitely deserves it even after massive app installs and use.

I tryed out the google version and it killed my GPS it sees 12 birds but won't connect to any.

Which do I install? I have a Tmobile Vibrant. You have 3 files listed. Thanks.

thoughts on roms

Ok a rewrite
Monster rom 1.1i is what I've been on all day and there is an update to 1.1j that just came out so my thought are of the 1.1I
Theme of the rom is very little at this time its still very new. The notification bar is a metallic black with white symbols and a battery meter that shows 1%. Very nice. The dialer is also themed with a metallic look.
The rom is I would say looks like an OASP rom even though its not. I like the look and feel of the launcher.
I think that its faster then stock. Feels snappier do to the adrenaline shot that he gave it. I don't know what that does but I like it. No lag or slow downs of any kind.
There is a bloated and a debloaded rom as well.
Also the free ram has been really good. Every time I look I have at least 200 to 230mb of free ram all the time. Can't beat that. The battery has also been good for me as well, as of 12 hour of moderate use I still have 50% left. That's good for me.
I've had no issues with it as of now so im really liking it and im looking forward to more updates. He updates it every couple of days wich I ike. They are not big updates but good ones.
Rom is by 05gsxrk5 and BenLand150
Im sorry if i left someone out.
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I like the idea of rom reviews.. but no disrespect I think you should put more detail maybe pros and cons in each to you, other specifics and structure your paragraphs better.
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I read it back and you are right. When I do the next one I will add more I was pressed for time I had somewhere to go so it was a fast reveiw. I am far from a good writer and was never great in english class either I think a teacher said the same thing to me once its why I got a c in that class. I think the next one I will make a paragraph for each specific thing. I think that way we can get a better idea of the pros and cons. Thanks for the insight
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Monster ROM is by 05gsxrk5. I'm just supporting it on Droidforums so people know about. The first post gives credit to him, too. Just pointing that out.

Yes thank you for doing that. I did not think about the other people involved with the rom.
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I rerwrote it. A little better now
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Monster Rom is not AOSP, it just doesn't use Blur launcher.

I know that its not it just looks that way I will update my post
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Is this thread meant for anyone to chime in? I like that idea too. If you ever want to read reviews without searching through what will end up probably being 100+ pages of questions/comments in the actual respective ROMs threads u could just come here search for the name and read up.

Please chime in. I think its great to here from people who are using these rims. I like one place where we can go to read what people are saying about the rims. As of now im on 1.1k just came out last night. So far I like the changes. Later im going to steel DROID and try out 3.0 that just came out.
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Ok time for steel DROID 3.0
Ive been running this for a full day now and
It very snappy. Opening apps is ferry fast it just kinda snaps open very quick. I have not ran into any slow downs or lag. Been very happy with the speed. It also has the adrenaline shot along with some ram tweaks. This rom is the only one out that I've seen with tweaks that I think are done to make a faster rom.
It is also themed a little bit. It has a 1% battery meter on top a black notification bar. The wifi and bars are changed to a blue and look like ice theme. I do like the look
It is running on the blur launcher as of now.
I've ran into no problems that I needs to be fixed with away. There were a few issues but since have been fixed. He also has some addons that you can put back onto the phone if you need certain Apps that he took off. It is debloated rom, I also think there is a bloated rom as well.
The free ram is not as high as the monster rom but still better then stock. Im usually at 120 to 180mb of free ram.
With every update it gets better and better.
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Actually, dpwhitty is doing the poll on his themed rom
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Ya I got my rom switched up. Thank you for that im updating my post.
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bump let's hear more reviews
I just put Liberty on my phone last night and I like it even better than Monster. It's heavily debloated imo which made me nervous, but Titanium made it easy to restore apps I needed and now i probably have a more refined list of back ups geared towards how I use the phone, so not a bad thing all in all. It moves quicker on my phone than Monster, the way i measure it is hit home on the homescreen of LauncherPro and it no longer glitches when the screens zoom out into formation.
The only bug i've noticed is I can't dial *228. I was able to still call voicemail so I'm wondering if this says anything to the effect of it needing to be provisioned like what I used to have to do in WinMo, but unless I see a problem surface I doubt i'll investigate into that too much. Not really a big deal for me. A lot of people said they had bugs like front facing camera force closing but I haven't had those problems. I used the blur camera as well as the blur calendar/email in the customization options and it all works well.

Liberty is as good as always and will only get better. After Hashcode is done with this new version of safestrap: http://goo.gl/FDYlE I will be dual booting this and CM7 indefinitely.

Possible AOIP battery life issue???

OK, I know the battery life issue for 4.2 ROMs has been beat to death, but I've got something weird happening with AOIP on my phone that doesn't happen with other ROMs.
Basically, when I'm at work, the battery graph (from Battery Monitor Widget Pro) looks like in the AOIPbattery image attached below.
As you can see, it ate all but 3% of the battery in about 11 hours. At times Battery Monitor Widget Pro indicated it was using the battery at 11%/hr or more! This is while I'm at work, and the phone is not doing anything, just sitting on the desk with the screen off, connected to a wifi network but not doing anything with that either.
After a few days of that, I decided I needed to try something else. Originally was going to go back to my "old reliable" backup of 4.1 Rootbox, then thought instead that I'd try the last build of 4.2 Slimbean I still had as a backup. Restored that and got all my current data for the apps reloaded, seemed to be working fine (though still had the stuttering and dumping of apps issues, which was why I wuit using it). Thing is, it's using battery not much faster than the Rootbox one did. See the SlimbeanBattery image to see how it did at work. Same scenario (sitting on the desk, connected to wifi, screen off almost all day). The little bit of high usage was while I was at lunch, reading some web pages and rss feeds, so the screen was on for about a half hour.
So, I'm wondering what the heck is making it use batter so fast on AOIP? I tried several things before switching to Slimbean. Airplane mode made no difference. Used Wakelock Detector to see what was using it up, and it was some part of Android OS making AlarmManager go nuts with wakelocks.
I even backed everything up, factory wiped it a couple times, then loaded the base AOIP 6/3 ROM and loaded GAPPS to see if it still did it.
Nothing seemed to make any difference.
In one sense, I'm hoping the new build that keeps getting hinted at might correct some of this, but I kinda doubt it considering how everyone who brings up battery issues usually gets treated.

That's normal for 4.2 Roms
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I see your point, why does one 4.2 room use that much more battery life then the other, it makes no sense to me. Maybe camcory can shed some light in this issue
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That's how my battery life has been on all 4.2 Roms. If aoip is worse for you then most obviously you need to switch Roms.
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I really was hoping that you would see that there might be something wrong with AOIP and take a look at it at least, and not throw out the same tired response. While I do appreciate the work put into AOIP, forum thanks have not happened due to the refusal to notice the glaring issue that everyone else does.
I would really like to know if you even read my post, Smartguy? Seems not or you would have noticed that AOIP in that scenario eats battery three times faster than another 4.2 ROM. Why?
I'm not trying to upset anyone, just trying to hopefully get this resolved in an amicable manner.

Some people don't have battery drain issues that bad with AOIP. You should keep in mind that this phone was never intended to run anything above gingerbread. Every one of these phones handles issues differently, which is unfortunate, but if a Dev doesn't have the same issue it is hard to address. Its just how it is.
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Yes I read your post I wouldn't respond if I didn't. I have ran all the 4.2 Roms and with all of them I might get 10-11 hours of life. So no I don't see a problem with the ROM and if you do use another one.
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smartguy044 said:
Yes I read your post I wouldn't respond if I didn't. I have ran all the 4.2 Roms and with all of them I might get 10-11 hours of life. So no I don't see a problem with the ROM and if you do use another one.
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Wow hard to believe (well not really) this horse has been beat to death more times than a cat has lives! I'm pretty happy with battery life for the performance and OS I'm getting with AOIP. No hiccups and I have access to all the latest android features. The phone has a small battery anyway so if you want better battery life, time for a new phone or switch to a Gingerbread OS. I charge the phone once a day typically so that's hardly an inconvenience.

Thing is there is something major different in AOIP, as I can typically get just over 24 hours out of this battery in anything other than AOIP, including while I'm at work where the battery usage is a little higher than at home in every ROM I've tried (4.1 and 4.2 based included).
AOIP for some reason eats battery at more than 10% per hour only when I'm at work (less than 3% per hour at home) even when I haven't loaded any apps.
Every time I look at what is using it, it is either "cell standby" or "android os" that is using the most with the other of those two second and the screen usage following in a distant third.
I've tried to figure out what specific item in those two are the source, but it always comes back to some generic service or component in the os that is used by almost everything.
Really any advice to try and improve this, other than "use another ROM", would be appreciated.

Try putting your phone in airplane mode while at work and turn on WiFi. That might help with eating the battery. Especially if where you work had a poor cell reception
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get a new battery. i dont know what else to tell you. if you are getting 24 hours out of every other 4.2 rom youll be the only one. as i stated i get 10-11 tops on ANY 4.2 rom. so you have 2 choices new battery or different rom

Best thing to to is kill background data turn off Bluetooth WiFi sync and locations when not using your phone for a couple of hours. But your best bet would spring for an 2900mh battery.

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Try putting your phone in airplane mode while at work and turn on WiFi. That might help with eating the battery. Especially if where you work had a poor cell reception
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That was the first thing I thought, but it acts the same.
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im going to vote you get a new battery if its that big a deal....:good:

go back to gingerbread OS. we gave you suggestions already. 1) new battery. 2) gingerbread OS. simple as that

I just don't understand this. Why is it that everyone refuses to see that there might be something wrong with AOIP compared to other _4.2_ ROMs?
I wasn't complaining about battery life on 4.2 ROMs, just noting that ONLY AOIP has this issue that I saw.
All other 4.2 ROMs used less than half the percent per hour as AOIP.
Telling me to just buy a larger battery when I don't have the money for it is not an acceptable answer. Neither is telling me to go back to the crapload called "gingerbread", whose only advantage is battery life, at the drawback of making everything else run like crap.
Guess I shouldn't have bothered, since it seems the developers may be able to code, but sure could learn a thing or two about listening to others with valid issues they should be addressing in their code.
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I just don't understand this. Why is it that everyone refuses to see that there might be something wrong with AOIP compared to other _4.2_ ROMs?
I wasn't complaining about battery life on 4.2 ROMs, just noting that ONLY AOIP has this issue that I saw.
All other 4.2 ROMs used less than half the percent per hour as AOIP.
Telling me to just buy a larger battery when I don't have the money for it is not an acceptable answer. Neither is telling me to go back to the crapload called "gingerbread", whose only advantage is battery life, at the drawback of making everything else run like crap.
Guess I shouldn't have bothered, since it seems the developers may be able to code, but sure could learn a thing or two about listening to others with valid issues they should be addressing in their code.
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sorry dude, i think your the one refusing to see. you seem to understand your way around, you sure your not doing something goofy on the install ?

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since it seems the developers may be able to code, but sure could learn a thing or two about listening to others with valid issues they should be addressing in their code.
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maybe you can code in a "battery fix" and share it with all of us.

Just use a different ROM. Jesus Christ!

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sorry dude, i think your the one refusing to see. you seem to understand your way around, you sure your not doing something goofy on the install ?
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It didn't matter what I installed or didn't install. Once I got the phone at work with AOIP on it, it ate the battery three times faster than any other 4.2 ROM. One time, to rule out anything I was setting or loading, I loaded AOIP, gapps, then put in my account info and disabled auto updates with nothing else changed. It still did it.
As QA software tester, I know how to identify software issues and bugs. The only explanation for what I have happening is there is something going on with AOIP itself to cause this. Like I've already demonstrated other 4.2 ROMs only use the battery a little faster than RootBox 4.1 (RB about 0.6%/hr vs slimbean 4.2 using 1.1 to 1.5 %/hr) with that screenshot in my OP. AOIP uses about 2.5 %/hr at home but over 10%/hr at work.
In any case, it's quite apparent now that this little group of ostriches with their heads still stuck in the sand isn't interested in hearing the truth, so consider this a closed thread.
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