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This may be a noob question but I would like to modify/flash my phone but I have a question before I do. I have done a few searches to find an answer but came up with nothing so far.
I have been browsing the forums for different mods that you can do for the Samsung Captivate. Out of all the mods that I have seen (One Click Lag Fix, Root, Cyanogen, Leaked Froyo Build, GPS settings changes, Removal of AT&T bloatware, unlocking phone for other carriers, side loading enable, and various others), they can ALL be undone using the Odin3 One-Click Stock Rom process correct?
ttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Hoever, each captivate has unique phone identification information such as IMEI, Device ID, Wi-Fi MAC Address, etc? Are there any mods that change the unique information for each specific phone? If so, how does Odin3 One-Click Stock ROM process correct that? When Odin3 reflashes to "Stock" ROM, I just want to know how that works if each phone has specific information.
Thanks in advance!
yes they can be undone with odin one click, however once you stray from stock it is most likeley that you wont be able to update to the official 2.2 from att.
personally im going to wait and update to official 2.2 from att then root and nandroid backup and the fun will begin because I will have a backup of the official update with my unique device id to fall back on. in my opinion this is the safest way to make sure I dont screww myself and not be able to update. once that is done it wont be long untill someone builds a decent rom from scratch plus like I stated before I will have a nandroid backup of the update for my phone if I try something and dont like it.
If you still feel compelled I havent gone to the leaked 2.2 but I did have verry good results with stock 2.1 and voodoo lagfix on anather captivate. the phone was verry fast with verry few side effects well woth it if you really cant wait.. But just remember once you stray from stock I believe the only way you will get to 2.2 will be through these forums.
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But just remember once you stray from stock I believe the only way you will get to 2.2 will be through these forums.
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anyway whatever you get from these forums will be much faster and cleaner then stock versions...
anyway i got question about the topic - i had stock 2.1 (JF6), backuped it, tried some cognition 2.2 beta, then flashed with odin to stock and the restored my backuped jf6
did my IMEI, Device ID changed?
(wifi's mac address cannot be changed)
thanks in advance
I am speculating here.
I dont think it can change any hardware I.D info but software I.D is anather story it could possibly cause problems with the O.S interfaceing with other stuff like market.
someone with more knowledge please chime in
Theres a new app in the app store (as of a few days ago) that allows you to change your Android ID#. Called Android ID changer
Unfortunately, it won't figure out what your unique # is. If you install Cognition, you have the same ID# as everyone else.
I'm not sure about Odin - stock. My Odin 2.1 # is different than the Cognition one. Ends in 43b1. I'd be really interested to know if anyone else could check their Odin 2.1 eclair JF6 (all stock, not modified) android ID # and see if it ends the same as mine. If it's different, then that means you can always revert to JF6 to figure out your real #. If it's the same, then I guess that means for the time being your SOL for figuring that out for now.
You can always check it before making modifications....
Shadow; you are probably right, but at the end of the day software is all that matters...
Thanks for the responses. Judging from what I have been reading on the replies so far, nothing can bring me back to my original stock android 2.1 OS with all original software IDs my phone had even if I use the steps outlined in the
[STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY
forum post.
How do you find out what your android ID is?
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Thanks for the responses. Judging from what I have been reading on the replies so far, nothing can bring me back to my original stock android 2.1 OS with all original software IDs my phone had even if I use the steps outlined in the
[STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY
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How do you find out what your android ID is?
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Just as long as you are running any of the stock eclair 2.1 without any mods all your unique id's wil display correctly, even if you have flashed to cog 2.2 or leaked 2.2 if and when you flash back to a truly stock eclair 2.1 the id's will return correct.
The android id changer app from the market will display the current android id your phone has when you open the app - it shows the current id just above the entry field where you can change your id. So download the app open it get you id write it down, save it in a safe place, then if you flash any rom the does not populate you unique id correctly you can reinstall the android id changer and enter your correct id manually.
Is [STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY method a "truly stock eclair 2.1" as you mentioned in your post Davy? Also, are there any other IDs I should be aware of and take note before I flash/mod anything?
Thanks.
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Is [STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY method a "truly stock eclair 2.1" as you mentioned in your post Davy? Also, are there any other IDs I should be aware of and take note before I flash/mod anything?
Thanks.
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I believe odin 3 one click in that thread is a straight rom off a phone with samsung jf6 stock install - yes I'm fairly certain it is stock. There is another odin 3 one click for the leaked 2.2 which is obviously not stock.
If you download an app from the market named simply " ID " it still give you four of your phones id numbers for your info.
I'm pretty sure all your phones id numbers are either generated from hardware coded info or your google account - so as long as you gave properly coded software on your phone these wil always populate correct - even if you install something that messes these up of you remove the bad software replace it with good software it should then populate the id numbers correctly again.
Such as the android id in the leaked froyo that isn't being generated but simply being copied to every phone it is installed on - when you replace the froyo leak or any of the roms built off the leak with one of the stock samsung roms your phone will then generate the id correctly again.
No thread jack but i thought id ask in here.
If im rooted and ONLY rooted on 2.1 will that not allow me to update to official froyo?
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No thread jack but i thought id ask in here.
If im rooted and ONLY rooted on 2.1 will that not allow me to update to official froyo?
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maybe, maybe not. Some of the people who were rooted only (no mods) were able to update to the jh7 update. And from what I have heard mini kies has worked to update for everyone that flashed back to stock and tried to update that way - but this is all some what of a guess as we don't know exactly how att and/or samsung will role out froyo for the captivate.
You are all really funny. Your worried about getting an official OTA from AT&T so you won't mod your phones, lol. Your choice I guess but the last AT&T OTA bricked a lot of phones that had not even been rooted. The ROMS that you find on these forums are way better than any of the stock Samsung and AT&T put on them with their bloaty, buggy software. I won't do any OTA updates, I wait until the developers here fix them, remove the crap AT&T put's on them and speed them up. I give you guys credit though, staying stock sucks bad, it freaks me out to see that stock screen everytime I flash back to stock before flashing a new ROM to my phone. I only stayed stock for 2 weeks and never turned back, glad I did it too. I would've bought an I Phone 3g if I wanted to stay stock and not mod a phone. Go look around the forums and read the threads, don't just skim them or you won't learn anything. See what custom ROMS and kernels are cooking and what people are experiencing with them. We had the OTA rooted on here a few hours after the update was rolled out, you won't miss anything by not recieving it officailly from AT&T. Hell we already have some good Froyo ROMS and kernels. Keep waiting if you want but there's plenty of goodies here why wait?
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You are all really funny. Your worried about getting an official OTA from AT&T so you won't mod your phones, lol. Your choice I guess but the last AT&T OTA bricked a lot of phones that had not even been rooted. The ROMS that you find on these forums are way better than any of the stock Samsung and AT&T put on them with their bloaty, buggy software. I won't do any OTA updates, I wait until the developers here fix them, remove the crap AT&T put's on them and speed them up. I give you guys credit though, staying stock sucks bad, it freaks me out to see that stock screen everytime I flash back to stock before flashing a new ROM to my phone. I only stayed stock for 2 weeks and never turned back, glad I did it too. I would've bought an I Phone 3g if I wanted to stay stock and not mod a phone. Go look around the forums and read the threads, don't just skim them or you won't learn anything. See what custom ROMS and kernels are cooking and what people are experiencing with them. We had the OTA rooted on here a few hours after the update was rolled out, you won't miss anything by not recieving it officailly from AT&T. Hell we already have some good Froyo ROMS and kernels. Keep waiting if you want but there's plenty of goodies here why wait?
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Different strokes for different folks man, Its not like im using the tw3.0 and the blue bubble background lol ive customized stock 2.1 how i want it to look and its working PERFECT for ME, fast as hell, gps locks on quick etc. Flashing a rom is nice and all but the risk of bricking youre phone is high (theres always odin i know) and if stock is working for people then more power to them.
The way I look at it is, the phone belongs to you, do what you want with it or to it as you please.
but I do agree with one point above, I personally would not trust a samsung/att update to not mess up my phone. But that does not mean it won't work well for you or that you won't be happy with it that way.
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However, each captivate has unique phone identification information such as IMEI, Device ID, Wi-Fi MAC Address, etc? Are there any mods that change the unique information for each specific phone? If so, how does Odin3 One-Click Stock ROM process correct that? When Odin3 reflashes to "Stock" ROM, I just want to know how that works if each phone has specific information.
Thanks in advance!
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IMEI can never change. I don't think your device ID can change buy your Android ID can change as you've been told by those before me. If it possible to change your WiFi MAC address, only I'm not sure how to do it. If you can do it in a full version of Linux, I don't see why it's not possible on our phones. Also, before you do any mods, make sure you backup a couple files onto your computer for safe keeping. The ones I'm talking about are in the /efs directory of your phone and relate to unlocking the phone for other networks. The second you go to mod your phone, these files will be erased and replaced with ones that are harder to get your unlock code out of.
I have a stock Captivate, and am new to Android OS. My understanding is that the Captivate has Android 2.1 with Samsung's Touch Whiz "blended" into it. I'm also aware that there are many custom roms that have various versions of Android with various tweeks and what-not, and to implement any custom rom, you first have to root (unlock) you phone, which voids the warranty.
My question is: Is it possible to install a basic Android (vanilla) version (2.3?) onto my Captivate without rooting my phone, or if it has to be rooted, is it as simple as just rooting the phone, and then downloading/installing the Android 2.3 source code? Or, are the custom roms necessary because they contain drivers for the various hardware components in the Captivate? School a noob please.
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I have a stock Captivate, and am new to Android OS. My understanding is that the Captivate has Android 2.1 with Samsung's Touch Whiz "blended" into it. I'm also aware that there are many custom roms that have various versions of Android with various tweeks and what-not, and to implement any custom rom, you first have to root (unlock) you phone, which voids the warranty.
My question is: Is it possible to install a basic Android (vanilla) version (2.3?) onto my Captivate without rooting my phone, or if it has to be rooted, is it as simple as just rooting the phone, and then downloading/installing the Android 2.3 source code? Or, are the custom roms necessary because they contain drivers for the various hardware components in the Captivate? School a noob please.
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2.3 is Gingerbread not vanilla (if and when google ever makes a vanilla, it will be a long time from now). Anyays, you HAVE to root the phone then install rom manager from the market and install the rom zip through either rom manager or clockwork recovery (installed when on rom manager's first use).
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2.3 is Gingerbread not vanilla (if and when google ever makes a vanilla, it will be a long time from now).
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I get that vanilla means just stock android, whether it be 2.1, 2.3, etc. I was a little ambiguous with my question, apologies.
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Anyays, you HAVE to root the phone
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I'm assuming I would just follow the sticky directions for rooting?
When I root my phone, I understand that it voids my warranty, but would it prevent me from installing the mythical official AT&T 2.2 update?
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then install rom manager from the market and install the rom zip through either rom manager or clockwork recovery (installed when on rom manager's first use).
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So, I can use this to install stock/vanilla android 2.2 or 2.3, and it will work with the Captivate, or will some hardware not function properly?...This goes back to my original question about whether or not stock/vanilla android 2.2 or 2.3 will run on my phone without error, or if a custom rom is required to get the android OS to work with the captivate's specific hardware.
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I'm assuming I would just follow the sticky directions for rooting?
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Yes.
EVOIXGSR said:
When I root my phone, I understand that it voids my warranty, but would it prevent me from installing the mythical official AT&T 2.2 update?
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If samsung/att finds out your rooted it will void the warranty, but you can go back to stock and they won't know. You will likely have to be on stock for att ota updates to work.
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So, I can use this to install stock/vanilla android 2.2 or 2.3, and it will work with the Captivate, or will some hardware not function properly?...This goes back to my original question about whether or not stock/vanilla android 2.2 or 2.3 will run on my phone without error, or if a custom rom is required to get the android OS to work with the captivate's specific hardware.
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First of all, make sure you can get into download mode using a button combo (see the sticky), otherwise you might need a jig if things go bad. Download mode is what is used to go back to stock prior to flashing a rom.
stock has locked down features of your phone such as: usb tethering, mobile ap, 2g/3g toggle, and more; plus stock is painfully laggy (slow)
a good rom like the one I use (see sig) has all these features working and is very fast.
Edit: I misunderstood you. No you will not be able to use your phone with android that is not specific to a captivate or i9000.
Thanks man, you deff cleared up a bunch of stuff for me. I'll prob just wait for the official release then, as I'm pretty darn happy with 2.1 (coming from a tilt2 with stock 6.5pro).
I'm starting to get the feeling that there is a better chance of having a cargo jet, full of gypsy tears and unicorn blood, fall out of the sky on my car while I'm on my way home from work today, than seeing the official froyo by this spring...
Yea.. still ongoing issues with what Samsung is releasing and AT&T keeps waiting. So we keep waiting.
And a true "Google Vanilla" ROM for these phones are almost impossible. Gingerbread will be the closest thing we are going to get to having it.
Between the Touchwiz interface, the proprietary RFS file system, and the fact that Samsung has integrated so much other bloat type crap in their OS - then fails to release the Source code so the folks on XDA can fix the mess.
So I hate my Samsung Galaxy S i9000 but only because it doesn't work. IF it was working I would love it a lot. The phone is rooted and I am running Vodafone's standard version of Froyo if such a thing even exists (no custom rom).
Now I have read about Odin and different firmwares but I am still VERY lost. I don't even know if any custom firmware would do me any good.
So here are my problems:
My Galaxy S is laggy as hell even tough I have installed lag fix.
GPS doesn't work AT ALL. I have installed pretty much every silly GPS app I could find on forums and in the market. I also entered a bunch of silly numbers yet the GPS is wrong by like 500 metres. Sometimes it gets VERY accurate if I run GPS Aids but google map instantly "fixes" it in just 1 second and screws up badly again >:C
If I take pictures with the front camera they will get displayed once I reboot the phone
and so on. it's completly buggered and I don't know why.
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So will a custom rom fix this kind of stuff? will i get working gps with a custom rom or are those gps apps supposed to fix my GPS which they don't at all?
Do custom roms force a loader on me? I like TouchWiz.
Can I still use Gmail and other google apps with a custom rom?
Seriously I am pretty confused and don't know what to do since September 2010 but I never brought up the curage to ask / thought I might figure it out by studying forums but I am still terribly lost.
If your phone is playing up that much I'd think a custom or different stock rom would be the your best bet. I remember when I got my phone it was horrible in terms of stability and lag etc etc, since I've started flashing different roms I haven't looked back, of course you lose your warranty though. I think most of your problems are probably software related, though they could be hardware(gps /camera). To pick a rom your either looking at Froyo or Gingerbread, then do you want a stock(many newer stock Samsung roms are fairly good in stability and performance) or custom(modified stock roms), then you can go picking from there. Read up lots before you flash on what things are(Kernels, modems, clockworkmod, download mode, odin etc) and then if you are confident go for it. Don't hesitate to ask anything
Reading and learning are the key, as stated, my recommendation is to explore the ezbase roms and easy Odin as a great and easy start to rom flashing, and dont be afraid to ask,
GTi 9000 insanity006/glitch
thanks a lot for the help.
If I set my phone back to factory reset will it jump back to 2.1 - the OS the phone came with or will it STAY at 2.2?
to be honest I personally believe the rom won't get touched if you do a factory reset so I will be stuck at 2.2. i have called samsung and they said it would jump back to 2.1. now i don't believe a single word samsung says.
IF I can always go back to 2.1 I could try Samsung's 2.3 - see if that does me any good and if that doesn't work I will jump back to 2.1 and root it again and use a custom ROM. I have already rooted it and used a one click solution which exists for 2.1 and 2.2 (i forgot the name of it but it was some orange icon with some arrow in it).
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thanks a lot for the help.
If I set my phone back to factory reset will it jump back to 2.1 - the OS the phone came with or will it STAY at 2.2?
2.2 or whatever the current rom is .
suggest one update to Froyo 2.2.1 its the best . 2.1 is very laggy
no custom rom can fix a broken gps if it is broken
remove lagfix before flashing any rom .
Possible best fix would be to wipe phone via factory reset losing all data
Via Odin install Froyo 2.2.1 with pit 512 and repartition checked .
GPS hardware thread fix may help .
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so
1) the samsung dude told sh*t when he said it would jump to the firmware the phone came with (just as i had assumed)
2) froyo 2.2.1 is more stable and better than any build of gingerbread? i thought gingerbread was a great battery saver and overall really nice
3) so with the gps problems i have stated it sounds more like broken hardware instead of software? i could still give the phone back but from everything i have read on the net GPS is just buggered on the galaxy s.
like i have said with GPS aids it will work fine (gps aids will give me a PERFECT location) but once I jump to google maps - google maps will automatically "correct" the positing which will be way off.
4) sorry for that stupid question but i don't really understand "Via Odin install Froyo 2.2.1 with pit 512 and repartition checked". What exactly is "pit 512" and what does "repartition checked" mean?
sorry to ask
Go to ezbase thread and there you will get instructions with screenshots of how to use it, and all the stuff you need to download, and you can then flash either a slim rooted 2.2.1 or 2.3.3.
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Go to ezbase thread and there you will get instructions with screenshots of how to use it, and all the stuff you need to download, and you can then flash either a slim rooted 2.2.1 or 2.3.3.
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are we talking about this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991792
That's the one, there are two sets of 3 firmware files, one for GB, one for froyo
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There s ezbase 4 also which is jvo based I think
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I have been trying to find answers for a week now and have found a lot of info. The problem is most of the info is contradictory and I'm not really sure which is good and which is not. I currently have an AT&T Samsung Captivate, firmware ver 2.2, kernel ver. 2.6.32.9 build# FROYO.UCKB1. I believe that is the stock At&t froyo build. It is rooted, I do have SGS tools (which I don't really understand what all it can do for me) and Titanium backup (which I've not tried to use yet for fear of breaking my phone). I run 91PandaHome and a bunch of apps I like.
My problem is that the phone sometimes is just really sluggish, certain programs really kill it. For example, I have PlantVsZombies which mostly runs ok, but sometimes slows down and worse 3 out of 5 times I play will not close. I have to power/volume up reboot to get out of the game. Other programs occasionally do this to me, but not as often.
I've been reading up and see that there are lagfixes, and understand that samsung apparently chose a ****ty file system, but I don't understand android well enough to know what's safe. What I want to know is what is as of today the safest, easiest way to fix the lag. I think I am going to be told something that changes the file system to ext4 is what I want, but I really don't understand what will be safe to use for that. I thought I wanted OneClickLagFix, then I found that maybe Voodoo was what I wanted, and now it seems that neither is currently being developed. Reliability, ease of transition and ease of putting it back to stock are important factors for me.
Suggestions, links and general help will be greatly appreciated.
Try going to a custom rom where all of that is done for you. Since you are new to this, I suggest you go look up the rom Serendipity 6.4, it's very easy to install and has it's own thread in the development section.
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I have been trying to find answers for a week now and have found a lot of info. The problem is most of the info is contradictory and I'm not really sure which is good and which is not. I currently have an AT&T Samsung Captivate, firmware ver 2.2, kernel ver. 2.6.32.9 build# FROYO.UCKB1. I believe that is the stock At&t froyo build. It is rooted, I do have SGS tools (which I don't really understand what all it can do for me) and Titanium backup (which I've not tried to use yet for fear of breaking my phone). I run 91PandaHome and a bunch of apps I like.
My problem is that the phone sometimes is just really sluggish, certain programs really kill it. For example, I have PlantVsZombies which mostly runs ok, but sometimes slows down and worse 3 out of 5 times I play will not close. I have to power/volume up reboot to get out of the game. Other programs occasionally do this to me, but not as often.
I've been reading up and see that there are lagfixes, and understand that samsung apparently chose a ****ty file system, but I don't understand android well enough to know what's safe. What I want to know is what is as of today the safest, easiest way to fix the lag. I think I am going to be told something that changes the file system to ext4 is what I want, but I really don't understand what will be safe to use for that. I thought I wanted OneClickLagFix, then I found that maybe Voodoo was what I wanted, and now it seems that neither is currently being developed. Reliability, ease of transition and ease of putting it back to stock are important factors for me.
Suggestions, links and general help will be greatly appreciated.
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Just a few quick things:
Titanium backup is a good friend to have on your phone. It won't break it - it will just take snapshots (for lack of a better phrase) of your apps so that you can restore them later if you need to.
Most lagfixes are cooked into kernels, so using lagfix will most likely go hand-in-hand with flashing to a custom rom. Not that you can't lagfix stock, but statistically speaking, lagfix will be done with a new kernel via the Clockworkmod Recovery Menu.
As for general fixing of lagginess... (READ UP FIRST) Flash a custom Rom (READ MORE). Most of the problems you're experiencing (ARE YOU READING UP ON FLASHING?) should be fixed by flashing (DO MORE READING) a custom rom. Do some research on roms and pick one that you think you'll like. (Note - don't post questions asking which one to do, it tends to be a bit of a touchy subject on the forum.) If you're wanting to be cautious, it would be safer to stay with a Froyo-based rom, as they're more tested and there's less danger involved (specifically, you don't have to flash bootloaders, which is the area where you can get a real brick).
Oh, and (shameless self plug) if you need to know what different terminology and items on the forum mean, just click the link in my signature.
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Just a few quick things:
Titanium backup is a good friend to have on your phone. It won't break it -
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Actually, it CAN break your phone if you don't know how to use it. Backing up is safe, but never, ever restore system data with TiBu when changing ROMs and only restore app data you know is safe.
I would recommend staying away from any Gingerbread-based ROMs until you have a better understanding of the phone and the process. Andromeda 3 is a good choice for a Froyo-based ROM and is very easy to flash, but do your research on the process before you attempt it. Almost any custom ROM will have a lagfix in the kernel and performance will be noticeably better than stock. You will likely have to redo your root after installing a new ROM, so read up on that process, too.
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As for general fixing of lagginess... (READ UP FIRST) Flash a custom Rom (READ MORE). Most of the problems you're experiencing (ARE YOU READING UP ON FLASHING?) should be fixed by flashing (DO MORE READING) a custom rom.
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I lol'd at the "()" parts
To build on jmtheiss post. For "reliability" look for a KB1 based ROM as this is what your phone is currently running, and is the newest version of firmware written specifically for the AT&T captivate. You won't come across any major issues that make the phone unusable, nor any "annoying" bugs. Then if your feeling more adventurous, and have gotten a solid understanding of the process of flashing ROMs, look to I9000 based 2.2.x ROMs, and lastly 2.3.x based ROMs.
For "ease of transition" start by getting the SGS Kernel Flasher or Heimdall to change the kernel. From there you can get past 3e recovery and you'll be free to make other changes.
For "ease of putting it back to stock" first find out what is your stock. Since this phone technically has 3 different "stock" firmwares. Then get a copy of that firmware (and steps on how to flash it) and keep it on your computer, in a location you'll be able to find easily in case of problems. Depending on how far "to the dark side" you go, will effect just how much of the "stock" files you'll need to keep as backups.
Personally I'd suggest this ROM as it's whats currently on my phone. Many have started off with Cognition and it's still a crowd fav. Both are KB1 based ROMs
Hi everyone,
I have a Galaxy S that is rooted, but runs on stock Froyo.
In the last couple of weeks/months it has been slugging to a slow halt though... when I start it up, it can take tens of minutes to be ready to use. And when I use it, it sometimes shows black screens for minutes at a time.
Using this 'high-end' phone has become a very, very painful process for me.
So I started looking for answers. And I found them. A LOT of them.
So much, I am not sure where to start.
The last few days I have been casually reading and taking in data from this forum, but I have yet failed to form me a proper view of what to do... Kernels, ROMs, speed fixes, modems... help?
I am sorry if I am breaking any rules; I did search, and I did read. However, no thread I found has a proper and up-to-date guide regarding the best way to get my phone to be a powerhouse, not a snail.
(Could I keep my current apps installed?)
I would very much appreciate anyone who is willing to donate some time to get me going. I know some programming and am the families 'go-to-guy' when it comes to computers, so I should be ok once I get some pointers on what to look for.
Thank you for reading (and responding?),
MM
I dunno if this will help you anyway i'll post it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939752
I did read that; thanks for the suggestion though.
It doesn't really go into kernels/roms/modems etc. which my main confusion is about.
I just downloaded darky's ROM... Reading their site, but I am afraid of losing my apps, not going to 2.3, having it interfere with my lagfix etc. =/
If you are afraid of loosing apps you can use titanium backup. You can download it from the market. I can't tell you anymore because that thread explains very well what you have to do. But i can say that after some time it will be very easy and you will not be afraid to flash a kernel or a rom. I post this too but i think you have read this too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
I did read that... I missed the 2.2 / 2.3 part however.
I planned on using Darky's ROM but that link says its a Froyo ROM.
Which one is better, currently; Cyanogen (Gingerbread) or Darky's (Froyo)?
Edit: also, while that post lists a lot of options, it in no way goes into which is the best option for which people...
Increasing the confusion a little bit more, so to speak.
Try cyanogenmod and darkyy rom and decide which is the best. I can't recommend anything you have to decide. But i suggest to upgrade to gingerbread. Your phone will get smoother. (darky's 10.2 is based on jvq a 2.3.4 gingerbread firmware). Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061946 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091. Remember: with cyanogenmod you have to use different kernels
Mad Maniak said:
The last few days I have been casually reading and taking in data from this forum, but I have yet failed to form me a proper view of what to do... Kernels, ROMs, speed fixes, modems... help?
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I'm a noob but I'll try to clear out few things for you.
From what I understand ROMs are like operating systems you use on PC.you currently have a froyo ROM running and flashing a gingerbread ROM will be like going from windows XP to windows 7.
when you download a ROM and unrar it you'll see 3 files.
PDA is the main one. PDA is Android and the apps that come with it. MODEM is the firmware of the wireless chipset of the device, it controls WiFi, Bluetooth and 3G/2G/GSM connections. The CSC holds connection data for the broadband networks as well as apps that are only available in certain languages/intended for a specific area or operator.
A kernel is like the heart of the operating system.It manages the system resources and acts as bridge between the software and hardware.
Now there are stock kernels and custom kernels. when you flash(install) a stock ROM all the necessary things are installed along with the stock kernel.
But if you wish you can flash custom kernels over stock kernels.
The speed/lag fix things you have read are basically conversion of file systems to enhance the I/O performance of your phone. You should know of the NTFS,FAT32 file systems in windows, similarly you android phone can have RFS,EXT4 file system. when you flash a stock rom RFS is default file system that gets installed.Many say that this RFS is to blame for the lag,slowness in our phone so what we do? we convert to EXT4. but to convert to EXT4 you need to be running a custom kernel.
So let me tell you this go on and flash a stock gingerbread rom, Im using the latest stock 2.3.4 XXJVR and you should try it. then you flash the voodoo kernel for XXJVR. it'll root your phone,convert the file system to EXT4.
reply if you have confusions.
cheers
Now you are on froyo. If you want to upgrade to gingerbread you should loose your application. Because if you backup your application using titanium backup or any other software from froyo. Its not advisable to restore in gingerbread. It will give always problem. So better way is download Drakys v10.2RE and do a fresh install.
http://samsung-sgs.blogspot.com/2011/08/how-to-flash-darkys-rom-v102-re.html
This happened to me once, when I was already on Froyo, lagfix activated, etc.
Took forever to boot, and was slow as hell.
Reason: faulty microsd card. The phone kept trying to read from it, and was unable to. I tried taking out the card and... voilá!
You could be still on Éclair and no lag fix activated, the phone would never behave like that. Try taking out the microsd card.
(Couldn't even read the card in the computer, so you see).
Hi guys, a small update:
I got Darky's 10.2, which is VERY smooth.
I reformatted my external microSD and put my stuff (music) back on it. Clean install on the internal SD.
It is a very enjoyable device once again. Two issues:
-It sometimes hangs on a black screen which I can't get out of with the home button. It seems only a battery in-and-out fixes this. (This issue worries me; is the internal SD corrupted?)
-The external microSD sometimes needs to be ejected and re-inserted to work.
Any solutions regarding that? Should I get a new microSD, or even contact Samsung to ask for a new phone (especially the first issue worries me... a lot).
Again, thanks a lot for the very extensive answers.
Especially marib; your post was very informative, and I'll be keeping a bookmark of it for future reference... thanks!
I think you could search for this issues in the darky's thread and if not found post the issue there to get a promt solution.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814091
Yeah, figured as much.
Will be tackeling these issues in the weekend.
Just thought of posting them in this here thread too. Might have gotten lucky, and the thread was here anywho.
Again, thanks.