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Problems rooting

Sorry another noob just joined the forum.
I have been researching periodically for about a month now and jumped in last week and attempted to root my phone. I believe that I rooted it after upgrading to 2.27.651.5. I could not successfully flash the recovery.img.
The program that pops up on the phone gave me an error message. Should I root the phone again from the beginning?
After this is successful all I have to do is load a ROM onto the phone and I will be set am I right? As of right now my rooted? phone is having problems connecting to the mobile network and I can only connect to the WiFi networks to get internet.
Sorry for being such a noob. I have tried searching and researching but the terms used are unintentionally geared towards people who know about this stuff unlike me.
Thanks for any help.

Just want to say you have an awesome username lol. Hopefully someone can help you out

If your phone was successfully rooted then yes all you would have to do is load a ROM and you'd be all set but it seems like your phone didn't get rooted. When you root a phone correctly it won't interfere with anything already on the phone, it will just add functionality. When I rooted my hero I had to drop from the .6 build to the .5 and after I rooted it my gps and such didn't work so it might have been the build I downloaded onto the phone or the rooting process I used was wrong. I would try to wait until a dev puts together a guide on how to root the .6 build(the latest Android 2.1 build) and then root it. I have some experience with rooting so ill keep looking for a .5 build that works properly after being rooted and if I find one ill let you know what to do and all that fun stuff. And you do have a pretty awesome user name if you have any other questions email me at [email protected]
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[Q] Boot loop after ROM Install via CWM -w/VIDEO

Hi there!
Recently I've been trying to upgrade my SGS with a custom ROM, Darky's 4.0. After installing the ROM as instructed (using CWM and copying the ROM to the internal SD card), the ROM Installs, after the 1st boot it keeps looping, see video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWrijyv-8PM (not edited, sorry for that)
Original SGS:
GT-I9000T
I9000TUBJG7
Product code: GT-I9000HKTPCW
kernel: 2.6.28
Build: eclair.ubjg5
The first upgrade I made was via Kies reg-hack to: GT-I9000HKDXEU, 'I9000XXJF3/I9000OXAJF3/I9000XXJF3/I9000XXJF3, and it installed Stock Froyo update. The SGS worked fine with exception of the radio, which didn't lock my 3G over the 850 band.
Currently:
9000M running STOCK Australian I9000UGJG8 (due to radio issues, besides the Canadian ROM, this is pretty much the only ROM which modem.bin's works properly with my network, 3G 850MHz).
FW:2.1-update1
Kernel 2.3.29 [email protected] #2
Eclair.UGJG8
I tried with the following STOCK ROMs prior to the custom ROM install: I9000XWJM1, I9000XWJG5, I9000XWJM9 and I9000UGJH2.
I have ALLWAYS made an SD unmount and format, formatted the cache and factory reset. After it loops, the only way to get it back is using downloader mode and installing a STOCK ROM via ODIN (always do a .512 pit repartition)
Any suggestions to make this SGS get the ROM? maybe the kernel is bad?
Cheers!

Have u tried to format everything (exept for sd) and flash again?
Btw i love infected
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Format everything? Using which app or program?
I've always used the recovery's wipe commands and the *2767*3855# command. Is that enough? or am I missing another cooler and invasive method ? A friend has suggested to use davlik.
Yeah! Infected rulz, that's what I listen when I'm in the bricking-mood lol

As i saw you have cwm installed... Boot in recovery and select mount and storrage and then select eveeything that contains format (boot wont work to format) and dont select format internal sd but DO select format sd-ext
Edit: if it doesnt work write again then ill upload u the kernel that fixed it for me yesterday. Its from this forum but since ive discovered it by coinsidence, i cant remember how its called. U can format everything then select mout usb storrage (in cwm) and push it on the root of sd. Its an update.zip
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shrooms90 said:
As i saw you have cwm installed... Boot in recovery and select mount and storrage and then select eveeything that contains format (boot wont work to format) and dont select format internal sd but DO select format sd-ext
Edit: if it doesnt work write again then ill upload u the kernel that fixed it for me yesterday. Its from this forum but since ive discovered it by coinsidence, i cant remember how its called. U can format everything then select mout usb storrage (in cwm) and push it on the root of sd. Its an update.zip
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I gave that a shot, still no cigar. I guess that it goes deeper than just a formatting... maybe that secret kernel u have might brick me... erhm! I mean help me
Shoot! and I'll try it.... this OEM sucky ROM aint working that good over the Australian ROM lol. now I lost access to my cam ! sucks.
Thanx!

Try any universal lagfix kernel with clockwork enabled. Since ur phone is still flashable and ur phone still has funktionality (cwm works) im pretty hopefull that it is software/sd format related. Thats one of those cases where servic centre sais a full flash is needed by now only they are able to do that:-( but till now i always found a way to work around that by trying everything in every way. I always thought my phone is bricked anyhow so it can just get better and by coincidence it worked all of a sudden
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Ihave I900T with same rom image
and am trying to upgrade to FROYO as well. Any advice on how to do so would be appreciated. Tried the various registry hacks and none have worked. I'm happy to use Odin but not sure which is the correct ROM image to use (from samfirmware). Thanks!

zevrosenthal said:
and am trying to upgrade to FROYO as well. Any advice on how to do so would be appreciated. Tried the various registry hacks and none have worked. I'm happy to use Odin but not sure which is the correct ROM image to use (from samfirmware). Thanks!
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Well, first thing is first. I've been a couple of weeks away from my SGS tweaking. I'm right know figuring a way to make a backup of my ROM (non-nandroid), in which I can extract the Kernel, Modem and CSC (I received a brand-new unit from my provider, so I will take advantage of it )
That way I can flash them back in case of a screw-up. I didn't have that much luck with modems offered in other ROMs, so I need to keep an OEM copy of my stuff.
Also make a good copy of your /efs folder in case you mess it up. It took me around 3 weeks of reading before I started making any changes to my phone, so I'll recommend doing the same; there's no "quick-start" or quickguide on how to start. You will en up with 6 different windows open reading from everywhere
The FWs from samfw are OEMs. Theres like "not much" of improvemente if you switch to those. Take special attention to the one you chose cause most likely you will lose your 3G and/or 850MHz band. I recommend using only Australian and Canadian ROMs(I9000UGJG8 and I9000UGJH2 worked for me, you might try also I9000UGJK3). Regarding custom ROMs, you will need to try and try until you get it right as our SGS model is not the most popular. This means endless flashing
Cheers.

Sgs froyo flash nam bands
Thanks for the advice. This project consumed my thanksgiving but I finally got a good working SGS in the ATT network. I bought an unlocked SGS from Negri Electronics with the USA 3G bands but it came without FROYO and didn't have the 3 button restore available. After reading and reading (your note about multiple open windows at the same time is all too true!) and trying and trying, I was finally able to get to download mode by installing all the Android SDK tools onto my PC then going in by way of ADB. Far more complicated than a simple registry hack and ODIN but it worked.
I installed the DOC BUJP8 v9 ROM with all the enhancements and AOSP Email (I tried and tried to get stock FROYO email to work with 2 exchange accounts but it was impossibly slow and didn't work) while AOSP is working fine.
It seems, because my SGS had the 850 bands to begin with, that it's working fine. I found this other post on XDA (#770041) that had some keycodes I was able to use (*#2263#) and confirm I still have the 850 band.
Needless to say, make a good backup and be prepared - as already warned - to flash several times and it was ultimately a "trial and error" process that worked.

does anyone have the original brazilian/latinamerican i9000T firmware? I flashed the SGS I got from Negri with spike speedy and it looks like I lost my 850 3G band.
I never did find out how to totally back up the SGS as in back up each PDA, PHONE, and CSC file so as to be able to truly factory default it.

[Q] foreplay with SC-02B (Japan/Docomo) : how to go further ?

Hello people !
Since I'm living in Tokyo, I'm the happy owner of a Galaxy S, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be exactly the same like the other devices.
Anyway, since 2 days ago, I had some fun (and cold sweat also) trying to root it, unbloat it, etc... Some difficulties and questions left without answers, so if anyone has a guess, please be my guest !
My phone as I got it :
SC-02B, with OMJJ1 firmware (Froyo 2.2)
1) Rooting
The easiest thing ever.
The SuperOneClick pack did a wonderful job.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
2) Getting a "safe" firmware
Just in case anything would go wrong, I wanted to be able to flash back to an official firmware.
The ones from this post work without any problem so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10558974&postcount=134
However, problem 1 : I couldn't get Heimdall flash my device. Since I'm mainly working on Linux and OSX, that would have been of a great help.
But the "handshaking with Loke" step is always failing...
Actually, I even though I had bricked the phone, since I was stucked with a black screen (1PC and 1GSM in orange) and it took me ages to figure out how to get rid of that.
Solution : get myself a Win 7 computer at office and use Odin. No problem so far with this one.
Problem 2 :after flashing with the official update, I get complains in the recovery mode (when unpacking the apps I think), saying that /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 cannot be mounted, because it does not exist.
After searching on japanese sites, it seems that there is a 3rd partition in addition to the one for /sdcard and /data that is used (as far as I know, only for that) by an app called DioDict (japanese / english dictionary).
Not that this is a great loss, but I don't know where and why this 3rd partition was deleted. I tried to restore one, but after a while I just gave up, since I don't have any dump of the data that was there anyway...
Could anybody confirm/infirm this ???
3) Recovery 2e
Since I wanted to test to other roms, I needed to get back to the recovery 2e.
I gave a try to CF-root, which included that also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
Once again, Odin was the only one that could do the job, Heimdall still ignores me.
Problem : the update is successfully done, but for a reason I ignore, I lose my SIM card in the process.
Flashing back an official ROM makes it available again, but CF-root won't allow me to phone in Japan.
How did you people handle that ? Unfortunately I couldn't afford staying too long without a working phone, so I didn't investigate much further, but did other people have the same kind of problem ?
Conclusion :
As of now, I have a rooted device, and am pretty happy with it.
However, I wish I could give a try to the nice work I've seen around (CyanogenMod on Galaxy S seemed very yummy), while still being able to use my SIM card here.
Any feedback is welcome !

I haven't played around that much with DioDict to tell you right away how to solve this, but maybe there's some answer getting the first firmware:
SC02BOMJJ1 (10/10/13) :
http://fus.samsungmobile.com/Phone_...2BDCMJJ1_SC02BOMJJ1_SC02BOMJJ1_OM_DCM.zip.enc
BINARY_ENCRYPT_STRING 1662317

thanks a lot for this link ! just a question, where did you guys find them ??? the site itself seems very dummy
but as far as I could read on japanese threads, that seems to be some prefab settings
in my case, that third partition has been deleted, so I think I would have to recreate again beforehand.
as for the "how", I must confess I don't know... I' had somehow succeeded in running parted to create one, but for a reason I ignore couldn't assign it to the block

I could install a Cyanogen Beta3 today, and though everything is alright, still got no 3G.
SIM card is not recognized, and it seems impossible to input the appropriate APN information. Could it be that the modem embedded in the SC-02B is different from the mainstream one ?
EDIT : seems that indeed the SC-02B has a different modem. At least the firmware has a different size, hence the need of a different PIT file when you flash from an "international" ROM.
I'm starting to wonder whether I'll see the end of it someday >_<

things that seem to work
Now that we have the capability to recover after we trash our ROM what can we do.
Super Oneclick root - works
Z4Mod "because we all have the need for speed" -works after you use titanium backup to remove some of the bloat-ware from /system
Z4Control works if you use Z4Mod to patch the kernel and convert /data to ext2 first.
The UOTKitchen will work to change the battery icon and other status bar icons if after you have completed these steps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9318973&postcount=1290 you extract the framework-res.apk from the resulting zip file and use adb to push the new framework-res.apk to /system/framework/framework-res.apk followed by an adb reboot recovery command before you do anything with the phone. From the recovery menu wipe cache and then reboot now. If you don't do this last step it could lead to having to reflash the factory firmware happened to me about 6 times this weekend. DO NOT TRY THIS IF YOU HAVEN'T CLEARED ENOUGH SPACE ON /SYSTEM BECAUSE IT WILL KILL YOUR PHONE!!!!!

For all those who want a pit file, here I leave you a custom pit file created for the sc-02b.
I must make this clear, this PIT file was made for those who flashed their devices with a rom for some other galaxy s version and want to reflash their devices back to the original SC02BOMJJ1 rom. I cannot ensure you it will be useful or that it will work for anything else.
Also, when using this PIT file with odin, be sure to check the "Re-partition".

@shikigamild :
is this PIT file the same that came from komugi.net ?
at the same time, could you tell me how you got the stock rom file links please ?
@dejanet :
so you say that with the Z4mod you have a fully working device ?
has anyone tried the CF-root package ? after applying it I lost my SIM card, so I wonder if you experimented the same kind of inconvenient there

Oh yes went through all of the fun of trying the various kernels everyone leaves you with sim not recognized.
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Aaarghh,that sucks donkey balls...
Guess that means we won't get any, custom rom any time soon will we?

I'm new to all this stuff, so apologies for the noob questions.
I rooted my SC-02B using the tool in this thread. I was able to install and use the Barnacle Wi-Fi tethering app from the market, so I know it was a successful root. Now when I go to install and use Titanium Backup from the market, it tells me I don't have root access or don't have BusyBox installed. When I go to install BusyBox from the market it shows my phone as being rooted, but when I tap install it gives me a failed message saying my phone isn't NAND unlocked.
How do I do that? Once I get that problem solved, what are the next steps for installing the Z4Mod?

So far I've never installed BusyBox through the market. Just install it with Titanium and it should work fine (click the "Problem ?" button).
Then, I suggest that before doing ANYTHING involving a custom initramfs (like ClockWorkMod), you dump somewhere your mmcblk0p3 partition, in case you want to restore your phone exactly to the same state you got it.
If your not that paranoi, you can skip this part, but as I wrote myself a dozen times here, I forgot it and would be interested also ^^

Ok, thank you for the info. Does Z4Mod cause any problems with this phone? I read in dejanet's signature that the lagfix seems to cause problems. Z4Mod is the lagfix he's talking about right?

bnr32jason said:
Ok, thank you for the info. Does Z4Mod cause any problems with this phone? I read in dejanet's signature that the lagfix seems to cause problems. Z4Mod is the lagfix he's talking about right?
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z4mod is just a rooting app. There's no lagfix. He's probably referring to OCLF which is made by the same developer. It's obsolete now, so do not use it.
About the rom problem, can't you just flash the modem from a Docomo rom after installing the custom rom?

No, z4root is only for rooting, but z4mod is a lagfix application. As far as i know, it will convert your phone system to ext2. However, i scare it will affect the DioDict application in SC-02B, so i haven't tried it yet.

Trojan,if you fear losing diodict,you can still dump your mmcblk0p3 partition.
It is the one containing diodict data.
I would actually be very grateful for an upload of that one (^-^)/
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trojan111 said:
No, z4root is only for rooting, but z4mod is a lagfix application. As far as i know, it will convert your phone system to ext2. However, i scare it will affect the DioDict application in SC-02B, so i haven't tried it yet.
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Opps. Didn't realise there are two apps with similar names.
Still, wouldn't suggest it. EXT2 is unstable.

Hi, bebert218. Actually, i am a noob, i don't know how to do it. Can you tell me how to view the partitions in the internal memory? I suppose DioDict application contains a database file somewhere in the internal memory, but i don't know where and what the file name is. Appreciate if you could give me a hand on it. Thanks.

Custom Kernel and Roms
From reading through the forums it seems custom roms present issues with the either the sim card or modem on the sc-02b. Are custom kernels causing issues as well on this phone?

Yes it is the kernel that causes the problem. I think a couple of us have tried them all.
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disappointing Other than rooting and using Galaxy tuner to do some tweaks there isn't really much else to do. At least the upgrade to omka5 showed much improvement from 2.2

whats the safest program to use in rooting galaxy s?

hi all im new here i got a samsung galaxy s bought here in ireland. was thinking of rooting the phone is there any safest way on rooting the phone.? since its still on warranty. and does rooting the phone break your warranty?
Firmware is froyo 2.2
base ver is XXJPP
kernel is 2.6.32.9
thanks for the help everyone

I used z4root, takes bout yen minutes but its easy to do + you don't need a computer.
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do i need to unmount the sd cards? before using z4root

Super one click. Install from your pc. Rooting does void warranty but you may be able to flash back to stock or un-root if you ever need to send it back. Unless you brick it but that way they prabably wouldn't know either.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

ive never rooted my phone before and this gps aids program does not seem to work without it rooted. so i tried that z4root program.. i am trying a temp root just to be careful and for some reason everything is running super slow, hanging, phone is making short vibrates, etc.
is the galaxy s not compatible with the temp root method? im scared that something similar will happen if i do the full root and screw up my phone.
edit: now its completely frozen with a black screen. im very scared to try a full root with this program.

I use CF-Root from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
So far it's great. Phone works very well, no force closes, no reboots, nothing. Every time a program needs super user privileges, a pop-up screen appears.
For the GPS, I used fasterfix.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Worked for me. Also for 2.2.1 JPX/JPY (used v1.5.5 in this case, now there is v1.7).

No you don't need to unmount the cards, it should work fine
sent from my rooted captivate

[Q] help updating rom / pre flight checks

Hi all,
Had my GS a few weeks now but am in a bit of a predicament. When I received this phone I thought that Three had announced the availability of Gingerbread. However, I had not realised that to update the phone with Kies would require that I had a landline broadband connection as I use the phone with usb tethering for my internet use. This being the case I contacted Three who told me I could take the phone into a certain Car Phone Warehouse that has a service center. I had to leave my phone with them the whole day and when I collected it, they had flashed a rom which is not one of Three's and also took me back from 2.2.1 to 2.2. I also no longer have an option in Settings>About phone, for Check for updates.
I have since used super one click and managed to root it (my first time rooting) and done a backup of /efs as I read that is good as it contains IMEI info etc. Also now have Titanium Backup Pro and done a batch backup of all user apps & system data.
Phone has become quite laggy but reading info on using a different kernel it didn't seem to make sense to do that until after updating the rom.
Is there anything here to explain what the rom file name convention means please? I found the following link on here to the stock firmwares but don't know how to differentiate between the rom names? i.e. how do the following two differ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102881
XXJVQ/XXJVQ/OXAJVQ/Sbl (MultiCSC)
XXJVP/XXJVP/OXAJVP/Sbl (MultiCSC)
Is it possible to root gingerbread 2.3.4 after flashing to one of the above?
As I rely on the phone as my only way to connect to the internet should I also do a Nandroid backup? I've only heard a little of this, my understand is, this is a way of creating an image of the phone as it is now so that it can be re-imaged from this somehow if something goes wrong? Any guides on creating a Nandroid backup please? This isn't the name of an App is it, rather a term or something to do with using terminal?
Am guessing I need to move my Titanium Backup files from /mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup somewhere else before flashing or does that not wipe this area?
I've downloaded odin from the thread above so I have v1.82 along with the 3 .pit file versions.
Is there anything else I should do or need before proceeding?
Thanks in advance for any assistance with my understanding of this.
Currently my phone info reads;
Firmware version: 2.2
Baseband version: I9000NEJP2
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #1
Build number: FROYO.NEJP5

Lol.amazing i was.in the same predicament like u two days bak hahahaha but instead my fne was brand new lol....
Anyway i got gingerbread astock now runnin on me fne so do this as.i.did.it like this
Download the JVQ file of 2.3.4 and then extract it... Use odin to flash ure fone... Im pretty sure on that thread it shows how.to use.odin and flash but here goes
First open odin and go into download mode with ure fne( by switching ure fne off then wait til it vibrates...then preaa.altogether the volume down key ure home key and power key.... Then plug in usb then flash yhe rom like.how.it is.sed on that thread which u founf the firmware on.... Hope this helpa
..::XDA RocK::..

Sorry for spelling mistakes lol still gettin used to the virtual keyboard lol
..::XDA RocK::..

Nandroid backup is a name of app which you can use for complete ROM backup useful in times of complete crash.
Just be careful when flashing. Normally it shouldn't screw up your phone but you need to be careful and ALWAYS read the Instructions in full. I have seen people ruining their phones just because they never read the what they were supposed to BEFORE starting.
All the best!

Thanks for the info.
I've found this guide now to Nandroid, which says the easiest way to get it onto the phone is to install ClockworkMod Rom Manager from the Android Market. I'd previously been looking for Nandroid in the Market.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
Trouble is when auto detecting my model it gives a couple that could relate to my model and I don't know what the difference is...
Galaxy S i9000
Galaxy S i9000 (MTD)
Does anyone know what the significance of the MTD is please?

Use the one without mtd as that is the originak international version....
..::XDA RocK::..

Hi
Thanks, I did some googling and came to the same conclusion, I think the MTD has something to with Cyanogen.
Anyways, am stuck at the moment at the next snag now in that I appear to have the more recent version of recovery i.e. the 3e instead of 2e needed.
This guide says I need to flash a custom rooted kernel (a CF-Root one) but my Menu > Settings > About Phone, ‘Build Number’ says ‘FROYO.NEJP5’ and I can't see which is the corresponding CF-Root kernel.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-install-clockworkmod-recovery-on-samsung-galaxy-s-i9000/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
Besides I am still on the original file system also and would prefer to be on ext4 to fix lag.
More rethinking required.

You dont nid root to flash a new firmware such as the jvq gingerbread.... If u flashed that u cn hav both ext4 and root support for ure fne so why dnt u flash ure fne to 2.3.4 first then root then ext 4 it.... Step by step i guess
..::XDA RocK::..

Prior to this thread I had read the following advice that before you do anything, you should back up your /efs folder containing not least your IMEI info.
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s-a...d-19-18-pm-est-apr-08-2011-major-cleanup.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859914&highlight=restore+imei
To do that requires root as I understand and whilst the above suggests that on 2.2 you should use z4root, I actually used super one click which worked and has an unroot option too.
I also wanted to be rooted because I already lost my user apps and data when it was flashed to 2.2 by the service center and concluded that the only decent back up apps all required root.
I wish I had rooted while I had the carrier version of 2.2.1 on my phone and made a Nandroid backup of that so I could return the phone to that state in case of warranty issues. I never foresaw that the service center would flash a non carrier branded type rom onto it.
Although I'm not overly keen on 2.2 or the lag issue, it works and therefore I think the prudent thing to do is do a Nandroid backup of this so I can at least get back to this if something ever goes wrong. However, I think I have read somewhere that Nandroid requires the ext4 file system too, so I think I need a kernel that does this as well as one that has recovery 2e and all for my existing 2.2 rom.
I don't know how already being rooted or that busybox is already installed (think either super one click did that or titanium backup) affects flashing a new kernel?
Since reading some other threads of people who have flashed up to 2.3.x this was prior to it being officially released in the UK and I see some now wanting to get back to 2.2.x so they can update to the official release.
So it might be better to get things to a state where I can upgrade to that via Kies in an internet cafe or something.
Anyways have a bit of a headache now so not doing any more today.
Completely rom'd, kernel'd and flashed out.

Just a quick update as I had to give up on Kies in the end.
However, I did discover, for others like me without a separate broadband connection, enabling the Mobile AP and connecting the phone in Kies mode was possible, whereas the usb tethering is not. This allowed Kies to recognise that an update was available and also downloaded it. I had to use an app from the Market Place called Spoof FW prior to connecting the phone to the laptop which allowed me to choose my carrier so that Kies offered the correct download.
I then had a problem that the phone wouldn't flip modes from Kies to the download mode but instead would hang in the Kies preparing firmware process. I deleted a couple of thumbnail picture files that had long file name extensions and did a factory reset and then kies was able to change the phone into download mode. However, at this point, perhaps because the laptop I was using is old and only has the old usb ports it would then report that it didn't recognise the usb device or crash device manager.
Anyway for now I have given up on the carrier rom option and opted for an Odin flash of JVQ and CF-Root 3.7.
Phone is now a lot faster than Froyo 2.2 and next on the agenda is to use the CF-Root addon for converting to ext4. The only downside I've found so far with JVQ is the usb tethering is flawed, either doesn't recognise that the usb is connected or seems to freeze net comms over the usb service after only a short time. Mobile AP seems to work so I have a pci wireless card coming to upgrade the desktop PC.
Hope the usb tethering gets fixed in the next Android release but hopefully for now I can manage.