Hello all!
New Nook Color owner here. Love the little thing but I'm not sure what to do next!
Ideally I'd like to root it, get the CM7 nightlies on it, and have a generally stable system. There's lots of resources and tutorials on it, but where do I start? What tweaks should I apply? What's the best nightly build so far (one with deep sleep working)? should I install on the emmc or on a class 2 sandisk?
Help would definitely be appreciated.
penars said:
Hello all!
New Nook Color owner here. Love the little thing but I'm not sure what to do next!
Ideally I'd like to root it, get the CM7 nightlies on it, and have a generally stable system. There's lots of resources and tutorials on it, but where do I start? What tweaks should I apply? What's the best nightly build so far (one with deep sleep working)? should I install on the emmc or on a class 2 sandisk?
Help would definitely be appreciated.
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Starting with the SD card install of CM7 will let you try it without any risks, so try that first. Sandisc Class 2 is fast enough for it, although be aware there will be little lags here and there, particularly in the market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
The biggest problem for some people is writing the image to the card.. If it doesn't boot into CM7, it didn't burn right, period.
I suggest you put both the CM7 nightly and the Google Apps on the SD card for the initial install and it'll install both at the same time. When you get booted and you're setting up your Google Account hit the menu button and you'll be able to connect to wifi, then continue through setup normally.
yup having the right tools is the beginning:
SD cards probably 2 or 3, 4 gb sandisk cards Class-2 or 4
If you plan to move your stock B N to a bootable sandisk card, get an 8 GB one as well.
Then either 16 or 32 gb.
All of these of course sandisk.
You'll need a reader either small one directly for those disks or use a SD adapter.
Thanks for the responses guys. Long-term, would installing to the eMMCbenefit me more than on the SD, speedwise?
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I think that if you have very little use for the stock software, which would be basically for the special ebooks that have some interactive aspects. i.e. the little elephant.
Then you might as well emmc the alternative rom.
Now, if you use the nook as a ereader a lot and have a lot of books already and some of them interactive, you have the option of dual boot, boot of the sdcard (either the alt rom, or moving the stock over to the SD card).
It really depends.
I haven't bought any books outside of the ones that came with the nook color and so, I just backed up my stock rom and nandroided it. Eventually, I came to a night where I wanted to let my kids check out elephant story, so I ended up reflashing the stock, pushing the stock over to an SD card, so if I ever need to boot up that book for them, I can do it.
Otherwise I use cm7 for everything I need.
FWIW, full instructions on installing to emmc are here. Don't bother installing Dalingrin's OC kernel though separately, as it is already included with the recent CM7 nightlies.
penars said:
Thanks for the responses guys. Long-term, would installing to the eMMCbenefit me more than on the SD, speedwise?
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I have run it from both the eMMC and uSD. I really don't notice a difference.
I run from uSD using verygreen's "size agnostic..." guide now because I really like my stock B&N experience too so I put the stock ROM back on the eMMC. This way I can return it no problems if it needs warranty work...
Btw, putting CM7 on it is not rooting it, you are completely replacing the ROM on it. Rooting means leaving the stock ROM on it, and modifying it to allow for additional apps and marketplaces.
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I hope this is the right place to ask my question.
Can the Nook 3G be dual booted?
bobgee said:
I hope this is the right place to ask my question.
Can the Nook 3G be dual booted?
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The Nook 3g? The original black and white one?
dual boot for the nc ftw
cdaters said:
I have run it from both the eMMC and uSD. I really don't notice a difference.
I run from uSD using verygreen's "size agnostic..." guide now because I really like my stock B&N experience too so I put the stock ROM back on the eMMC. This way I can return it no problems if it needs warranty work...
Btw, putting CM7 on it is not rooting it, you are completely replacing the ROM on it. Rooting means leaving the stock ROM on it, and modifying it to allow for additional apps and marketplaces.
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Wrong. CM7 is pre-rooted. Rooting means gaining SU (administrator) privileges. This is used to give you more control and functionality on ANY rom or phone.
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I bought one of those sd cards pre loaded with CM7 on eBay because I dont feel comfortable yet with the whole android modding. Other than putting in that SD Card I have done nothing to my nook, no rooting, or anything. SO, how can I put MIUI on an sd card and just pop it in like the CM7 one without any modding? Thanks!
you can boot cm7 From sd without root!?
didnt know it was Possible.
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Purple Drama Llama said:
I bought one of those sd cards pre loaded with CM7 on eBay because I dont feel comfortable yet with the whole android modding. Other than putting in that SD Card I have done nothing to my nook, no rooting, or anything. SO, how can I put MIUI on an sd card and just pop it in like the CM7 one without any modding? Thanks!
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The easiets and IMHO best method is to use this. Copy your MIUI file... rename the copy adding update-cm- to the beginning of it and use it where the instructions say CM7.
twiztedvvv said:
you can boot cm7 From sd without root!?
didnt know it was Possible.
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Yes... since the NC is hard programmed to boot uSD first, there is NO NEED for rooting stock to boot any other ROM from uSD. Several people do this to maintain warranty while using other AOSP OS's.
cool didnt Know that. boot from sd would be great on other android too. DHD is dual booting now.
I installed CM10 on a 4GB PNY SD Card and when I rebooted after installation, my HD+ got stuck on the Cyanoboot screen. I rebooted a few times but it never gets past the Cyanoboot screen. Any ideas? Thanks.
YevOmega said:
I installed CM10 on a 4GB PNY SD Card and when I rebooted after installation, my HD+ got stuck on the Cyanoboot screen. I rebooted a few times but it never gets past the Cyanoboot screen. Any ideas? Thanks.
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The problem is that PNY card. It is terrible with ROMs on SD. You need a SanDisk class 4.
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leapinlar said:
The problem is that PNY card. It is terrible with ROMs on SD. You need a SanDisk class 4.
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Ok thanks. You mean Class 4 or higher, right?
YevOmega said:
Ok thanks. You mean Class 4 or higher, right?
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No. Class 4. They work best. Higher classes do worse.
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leapinlar said:
No. Class 4. They work best. Higher classes do worse.
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That's wack. But ok.
YevOmega said:
That's wack. But ok.
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If you want to know why, read this thread. It was written for the Nook Color, but applies to these devices too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12330898
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leapinlar said:
If you want to know why, read this thread. It was written for the Nook Color, but applies to these devices too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12330898
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I C. Thanks leapinlar. And oh the excitement over Eclair. Wow how far we have come. Remember when multitasking on Android was new (Recent Apps Window in ICS)? Even that feels like it was ages ago.
Sorry for bothering.
Tried with Samsung 32GB Class 10, no go. Was that one supposed to work? Considering it's a high-class, I assume not, but I'm not sure. Gonna buy a class 4 sandisk, I guess. The thing is that I'm not sure I'm doing the installation correctly because the first option is to adb but that doesn't work when the tablet is in recovery. It should be the same thing because the adb is just pushing to the root of the card. Sorry for bothering.
YevOmega said:
Tried with Samsung 32GB Class 10, no go. Was that one supposed to work? Considering it's a high-class, I assume not, but I'm not sure. Gonna buy a class 4 sandisk, I guess. The thing is that I'm not sure I'm doing the installation correctly because the first option is to adb but that doesn't work when the tablet is in recovery. It should be the same thing because the adb is just pushing to the root of the card. Sorry for bothering.
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ADB is not working with CWM because the driver address is different. Search some of the HD+ threads for instructions how to fix this. You can also use a Mac or Linux to copy the file.
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Got a Sandisk class 4, 4GB. I still get stuck on Cyanoboot after installing CM10 zip from CWM.
YevOmega said:
Got a Sandisk class 4, 4GB. I still get stuck on Cyanoboot after installing CM10 zip from CWM.
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Describe a little more the symptoms. It just says cyanoboot forever? No eventual dimming of the logo?
The installation said completed successfully? And which version of CM10? Try going to CWM and wiping data/factory resetting.
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leapinlar said:
Describe a little more the symptoms. It just says cyanoboot forever? No eventual dimming of the logo?
The installation said completed successfully? And which version of CM10? Try going to CWM and wiping data/factory resetting.
Sent from my Nook HD running CM10.1 on Hybrid SD
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The screen dims, the logo doesn't. It says cyanoboot for as long as I leave the tablet on. The installation was successful. I'm using the "cm-10-20130120-UNOFFICIAL-ovation" zip. I still don't have adb working in CWM so I made a "CM10SDCARD" folder and put the zip in there. Then I booted into CWM and flashed it. I also tried just keeping the zip in the root of the folder.
Btw, just wondering, are we ever gonna get a full CM10 installation, on internal memory?
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The screen dims, the logo doesn't. It says cyanoboot for as long as I leave the tablet on. The installation was successful. I'm using the "cm-10-20130120-UNOFFICIAL-ovation" zip. I still don't have adb working in CWM so I made a "CM10SDCARD" folder and put the zip in there. Then I booted into CWM and flashed it. I also tried just keeping the zip in the root of the folder.
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You made a CM10sdcard folder where? On the boot partition? And you were able to find it with CWM to flash? I'm concerned that you did not really flash it. You did use verygreen's CWM, not mine, right?
Edit: Now that I think about it, I know that is what you did, you used my CWM. That explains everything, the symptoms. Otherwise you could not have found that zip on the boot partition with CWM. And my CWM does not partition the SD for putting a ROM on it. The installation zip would install the boot files to my CWM but since the rest of the SD is not partitioned, not the CM10 files. So when cyanoboot comes up, there is no CM10 to load. So start over burning his CWM.
And don't get in a hurry for CM10 on emmc. It won't happen soon, if ever. Remember emmc has a locked bootloader.
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leapinlar said:
You made a CM10sdcard folder where? On the boot partition? And you were able to find it with CWM to flash? I'm concerned that you did not really flash it. You did use verygreen's CWM, not mine, right?
Edit: Now that I think about it, I know that is what you did, you used my CWM. That explains everything, the symptoms. Otherwise you could not have found that zip on the boot partition with CWM. And my CWM does not partition the SD for putting a ROM on it. The installation zip would install the boot files to my CWM but since the rest of the SD is not partitioned, not the CM10 files. So when cyanoboot comes up, there is no CM10 to load. So start over burning his CWM.
And don't get in a hurry for CM10 on emmc. It won't happen soon, if ever. Remember emmc has a locked bootloader.
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Thanks leapinlar. I'll try today. Yeah, I know the bootloader is locked. I wish CM would pick up the HD+ and HD, but that's not gonna happen. Both are absolutely solid devices. WE NEED MORE DEVS! That's not to say that you're not awesome. Do you think a newer release of CM10 than the one I plan on flashing is satisfactorily stable?
YevOmega said:
Thanks leapinlar. I'll try today. Yeah, I know the bootloader is locked. I wish CM would pick up the HD+ and HD, but that's not gonna happen. Both are absolutely solid devices. WE NEED MORE DEVS! That's not to say that you're not awesome. Do you think a newer release of CM10 than the one I plan on flashing is satisfactorily stable?
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I use 01-08. It is very stable. I get an occasional reboot, but the newer builds reboot a lot for me.
And remember, if CM picks up the devices, they still need a local dev to maintain the device specific needs. So you are no better off than you are now. The only difference is automatic nightlies, which are now weeklies now for CM10.
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leapinlar said:
I use 01-08. It is very stable. I get an occasional reboot, but the newer builds reboot a lot for me.
And remember, if CM picks up the devices, they still need a local dev to maintain the device specific needs. So you are no better off than you are now. The only difference is automatic nightlies, which are now weeklies now for CM10.
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I would be better off because there would be relatively stable code. Btw, I tried using verygreen's CWM. I inserted my SD Card into my HD+ and then put it back in my computer. CWM booted, but I can't put CM10 on the card because there are only 109 MB free. It partitioned that way. HELP!
YevOmega said:
I would be better off because there would be relatively stable code. Btw, I tried using verygreen's CWM. I inserted my SD Card into my HD+ and then put it back in my computer. CWM booted, but I can't put CM10 on the card because there are only 109 MB free. It partitioned that way. HELP!
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That is what I meant when I said earlier that you could not have been putting that CM rom on the boot partition. That is why you need ADB. Either that or Linux. They are both hard to do. Look in verygreen's thread over the last few weeks. There are instruction there by users. His instructions are not very good.
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leapinlar said:
That is what I meant when I said earlier that you could not have been putting that CM rom on the boot partition. That is why you need ADB. Either that or Linux. They are both hard to do. Look in verygreen's thread over the last few weeks. There are instruction there by users. His instructions are not very good.
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Can't find how to set up ADB to work with CWM. I looked everywhere.
YevOmega said:
Can't find how to set up ADB to work with CWM. I looked everywhere.
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This too hard to explain to you. I hate explaining to people how to make it work. I spent weeks explaining and re-explaining how to do ADB. Everyone's system requires different steps. I recommend you look on the web on how to make an Ubuntu live CD. You just make that CD and put it in the CD drive and it boots to Ubuntu. Put your card in the card reader and it sees the partition it needs to be copied too.
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Just wanting some opinions here.
I was wondering what the consensus is on running ROMs on Nook HD+ is. I heard SD cards were unstable (I have a Kingston Class 4 32GB), and I wasn't sure how easy it is to go back to stock from a ROM.
Any recommendations? Thanks in advance!
Edit: I should add that I do not have any real problems with the stock ROM except weird issues (ie: SoundCloud's app/webpage won't play the songs I uploaded to it).
I just took the plunge and did the full wipe and installed on internal memory. I tried the Sd method first and was not having good luck on a Sandisk 32Gb Class 4 card. So far everything is working great.
EndemicTruth said:
Just wanting some opinions here.
I was wondering what the consensus is on running ROMs on Nook HD+ is. I heard SD cards were unstable (I have a Kingston Class 4 32GB), and I wasn't sure how easy it is to go back to stock from a ROM.
Any recommendations? Thanks in advance!
Edit: I should add that I do not have any real problems with the stock ROM except weird issues (ie: SoundCloud's app/webpage won't play the songs I uploaded to it).
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just back up your stock ROM with CWM, and you should be fine :fingers-crossed:
omigosh said:
just back up your stock ROM with CWM, and you should be fine :fingers-crossed:
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Hehe just decided to take the plunge and do it. Keep getting an error while backing up though.
"Error while making a backup image of /system!"
Using a 32GB Kingston Class 4 SD card. :crying:
I was going to do the SD card thing but couldn't get it to work so I just did the emmc and I like it. I have no experience with other android tablets so my opinion is sort of meaningless but this seems to be pretty rad. Especially for the price!
I say just do it without the SD card. I think I've seen the stock ROM around here somewhere if you really miss it.
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Hehe just decided to take the plunge and do it. Keep getting an error while backing up though.
"Error while making a backup image of /system!"
Using a 32GB Kingston Class 4 SD card. :crying:
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The error was because you were using verygreen's small 1GB image, there is not room enough there for a backup. If you followed the 'Dummies Guide' it would tell you to use my 4GB image so you had room on the SD to do a backup of stock first.
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EndemicTruth said:
Just wanting some opinions here.
I was wondering what the consensus is on running ROMs on Nook HD+ is. I heard SD cards were unstable (I have a Kingston Class 4 32GB), and I wasn't sure how easy it is to go back to stock from a ROM.
Any recommendations? Thanks in advance!
Edit: I should add that I do not have any real problems with the stock ROM except weird issues (ie: SoundCloud's app/webpage won't play the songs I uploaded to it).
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For the benefit of those who might read this thread in the future and are less sure of what they want to do:
In my opinion, whether you should keep the stock firmware around depends mainly upon how much you enjoy the stock Nook app(s). The Nook shopping/reading app for Android which can be found on the Play Store is inferior, and is so in some ways that are important to me. If you use it, you lose the capacity for multi-color highlights, and the UI is generally clunkier. This may improve, though, and if it does, I'd wholeheartedly endorse always going straight for a native CM install. In general, it's vastly superior.
I've tried to read as much as I can about rooting the Nook HD+ here, but I have some questions before my attempts. It sounds like some Nook HD+ taking rooting fine while others do not. Through some of the reading I've done here, it sounds like you can dual boot if you have CWM/CM installed on an SD card. Before attempting anything, can you leave the stock Nook ICS on the internal memory and have CWM/CM installed on an external SD Card? I would feel more comfortable about that because it sounds like this is really hit and miss. If rooting does not take I can pull out the SD card and boot like normal to stock Nook ICS
I've never had a problem with rooting any devices that I've owned. This is the first time I've been hesitant about rooting. I just bought it today. I don't want to brick it. I liked how easy it was to root the Galaxy S3 with odin. I would feel more comfortable if there was something more automated in this case. It looked like there was a lot of different links to files for root. Which one is the current? Sorry if this is asked a lot. Thanks in advance for the help
Richard
I think I found the answers. I should have read a little more. I guess there is no way to do this without removing the stock firmware. That is fine with me, but I'm still nervous because the reports of Nooks boot looping seem to be frequent compared to other devices. I know this can obviously happen with any device. It looks like I can leave the stock firmware/ bootloader untouched if I understand this post correctly? I can install a bootloader and CM 10.1 to an external SD without affecting the Nook bootloader and firmware? Thanks again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
Well, first off I am very frustrated how so many users get confused about "rooting". Rooting is just the process of giving an operating system 'root' access. You can 'root' stock by flashing a zip with CWM. It is still stock but has root access.
Or you can replace stock with a totally different operating system (like CM). CM comes already rooted and unfortunately many users call installing CM rooting. It is not. It is installing a new operating system that just also happens to be already rooted.
Ok, off my soapbox.
If you are worried about messing up your stock then you should install CM to an SD. That leaves stock unmodified and allows CM to run independently. Just remove the SD and it will boot next time to stock. There are instructions to install to SD in the development threads.
All HD/HD+'s will have no trouble with rooting stock or installing CM. It is the actual ability to boot using a bootable SD that is sometimes troublesome. And you must be able to boot to an SD to either root stock or install CM. And of course if you want CM on SD, that must be able to boot also.
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Sorry, I should have been a little more clear. I was worried about putting CWM on the internal storage. I use the term rooting to broadly here. I saw people had trouble with CWM on internal storage and some not. I have plenty of experience. I'm not worried I would make mistake. Seems like this device has had recent history of problems with making any chances to the stock firmware. Most of the post I read were from people who bought the Nook recently. That is what made me thing before making a change.. The last thing anyone wants is to brick a new device. That's why I liked the idea of using external storage first. Thanks for clearing that up.
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riche1 said:
Sorry, I should have been a little more clear. I was worried about putting CWM on the internal storage. I use the term rooting to broadly here. I saw people had trouble with CWM on internal storage and some not. I have plenty of experience. I'm not worried I would make mistake. Seems like this device has had recent history of problems with making any chances to the stock firmware. Most of the post I read were from people who bought the Nook recently. That is what made me thing before making a change.. The last thing anyone wants is to brick a new device. That's why I liked the idea of using external storage first. Thanks for clearing that up.
Richard
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Well putting CM on internal is very easy and reliable once you get the SD to boot. And that thread you referenced is the right one to be following if you want it on internal.
However if you want CM on SD follow a different thread.
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leapinlar said:
Well putting CM on internal is very easy and reliable once you get the SD to boot. And that thread you referenced is the right one to be following if you want it on internal.
However if you want CM on SD follow a different thread.
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Which one would that be? I thought it was all on that one linj. Thanks for pointing that out.
I'm sure this all works fine on internal storage, like you said. Normally I would go for it, but this is the first time I have been a little nervous.
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Which one would that be? I thought it was all on that one linj. Thanks for pointing that out.
I'm sure this all works fine on internal storage, like you said. Normally I would go for it, but this is the first time I have been a little nervous.
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I would suggest this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087988
That puts CM10.1 on it and it is very stable. There are other threads for CM10.2 and for the SGT7 modified CM10.1 and CM10.2 on SD, but I think the one above would be your best bet.
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Hey guys, I'm new to this device. My 3 boys all have the Nook HD, and I would like to be able to sideload apps for them, i.e. AdAway, but keep the stock ROM as they are comfortable with it.
I see that the current methods are quite simple and refined, which is awesome, but I have one problem - I can't seem to find a microSD anywhere. Could have sworn I had one kicking around. However, I've got ADB working; do I need to go buy a microSD for sure, or can I use ADB to flash custom recovery to the internal memory and proceed? (Yes, I am that cheap :silly
mrage said:
Hey guys, I'm new to this device. My 3 boys all have the Nook HD, and I would like to be able to sideload apps for them, i.e. AdAway, but keep the stock ROM as they are comfortable with it.
I see that the current methods are quite simple and refined, which is awesome, but I have one problem - I can't seem to find a microSD anywhere. Could have sworn I had one kicking around. However, I've got ADB working; do I need to go buy a microSD for sure, or can I use ADB to flash custom recovery to the internal memory and proceed? (Yes, I am that cheap :silly
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You need a micro SD. You cannot do anything like flash recovery with ADB without being rooted. And you cannot root without an SD.
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leapinlar said:
You need a micro SD. You cannot do anything like flash recovery with ADB without being rooted. And you cannot root without an SD.
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Thanks for the quick response! That makes sense, I hadn't considered that I had to be rooted to flash recovery. D'oh.
Sandisk 8gb microSD cards are available on EBay for less than $5.
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