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I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
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I have a Bell GS and on Bell it works great. Though after a firmware upgrade yesterday is is acting a bit wonky, might have to do reset.
To use it on ATT in the US you would have to buy it outright from Bell or other brick and mortar store that carry Bell phones. ie. Best Buy/FutureShop.
There is an unlock app for GS's and supposedly works on the Bell I9000, haven't tried it myself, no need atm. This will allow you to use a ATT sim card in the phone.
To update, you can use Samsung kies, supposedly what they will be using to push updates to GS, you can get that from samsungs web site. From what I have found so far you need to be in the touch wiz launcher to use kies. only matters if you use 3rd party launchers.
Not sure how the FFC will work for you. That might be dependant on ATT?
Your best bet, if you decide to get one. ROOT and make it your *****!
It would be 100% compatible on AT&T's network. In fact, it's even more compatible because Bell doesn't have a 2G network you can switch to to save battery life.
ROM updates come officially through Kies like normal, although you should also be able to flash most international i9000 ROMs you see floating around here, just make sure before doing so. Flashing a Captivate ROM just because you're on AT&T is a surefire way to brick your phone.
To buy it you will likely need to use something like eBay because even if you purchase it outright almost every store won't let you leave unless you have existing service with Bell. You can unlock it for free though with the method that I am sure is detailed on the Android Development board somewhere.
The obvious downside to buying Bell's Galaxy S is it comes at full retail price (over $500 Canadian) and in all likelihood you're probably going to get a model with the three button download/recovery modes disabled, making flashing ROMs risky. Hold out until the end of this month to see if Samsung Canada announces more about their promised fix for this.
I am using one on AT&T as well and it works fine. Best part is that AT&T doesn't force you on their limited smartphone plans and you can put it on a cheaper unlimited plan.
I got mine in a trade for a BB Torch but you can find one on eBay or maybe talk to a Canadian member here to see about picking one up for you. I would suggest you have them check for the 3 button recovery to make sure it's working before they buy it though.
The downside is warranty issues if it breaks but as long as the 3 button recovery works you should be able to recover from a bad flash and the hardware seems pretty solid so far so no worries there.
Based on the responses, I am definitely going with the Bell/Canadian Vibrant. The only trouble I have now is just finding one to purchase.
How do I post my intentions here to let people that I want one? Who is a reliable dealer here?
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GH
the bell ones got both 850 and 1900 bands?
Also does it have a bell logo on it or is it unbranded.
send me a PM if you want to buy a Bell SGS with 3 button working tested, and GPS tested before mailing it to your address of choice.
BuddyLee said:
the bell ones got both 850 and 1900 bands?
Also does it have a bell logo on it or is it unbranded.
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It is unbranded
3 button mode is enabled again with latest firmware
Epic 4G (used as 3G on Bell / Rogers)
Hello,
I am interested exactly the opposite: I want to buy an Epic from Sprint (with no contract) and to use it in Canada (on Bell or Rogers) but only with a data plan, no voice (as I will use the SIP / VOIP). If Bell or Rogers offers only data plan, should this phone (Epic) works out of the box (or with the unlocking code) on the 3G network of Bell / Rogers, simply inserting their SIM card into the phone?
catalinu said:
Hello,
I am interested exactly the opposite: I want to buy an Epic from Sprint (with no contract) and to use it in Canada (on Bell or Rogers) but only with a data plan, no voice (as I will use the SIP / VOIP). If Bell or Rogers offers only data plan, should this phone (Epic) works out of the box (or with the unlocking code) on the 3G network of Bell / Rogers, simply inserting their SIM card into the phone?
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the sprint version is CDMA, chances are it's CDMA locked to sprint
CDMA unlocking is done on the server side, is not on the phone like GSM
you need to register your CDMA IMEI number to the say... Bell or Telus, if they see it on their server it's allowed they will let you in, if they see it listed as not allowed then they wont register the phone into their (Telus/Bell) CDMA network
garyHal said:
I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
Thanks
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I use it on Rogers network and it works great. No problem so far.
AllGamer said:
the sprint version is CDMA, chances are it's CDMA locked to sprint
CDMA unlocking is done on the server side, is not on the phone like GSM
you need to register your CDMA IMEI number to the say... Bell or Telus, if they see it on their server it's allowed they will let you in, if they see it listed as not allowed then they wont register the phone into their (Telus/Bell) CDMA network
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Thanks for your answer.
I am not a tech, but the 4G/3G is also depending on CDMA? Or CDMA concerns only voice? Is it 4G/3G a standard (the same on Sprint and Bell and Rogers) that doesn't depend neither on CDMA or GSM?
we don't have 4G support yet in Canada
CDMA is for voice, but if you can not register the phone in the network for voice, you will also not get access to data
to have data you must have a voice connection
not a phone requirement but a phone network carrier requirement
Thanks.
Anyway, I checked right now with Bell and Rogers and no one offers only data plan... But what they will do with iPad and Galaxy Tab that doesn't support voice, but only data? If I will take the SIM out the gTab and put in a phone (Epic or Vibrant or Captivate), will the phone be able to work on 3G?
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Thanks.
Anyway, I checked right now with Bell and Rogers and no one offers only data plan... But what they will do with iPad and Galaxy Tab that doesn't support voice, but only data? If I will take the SIM out the gTab and put in a phone (Epic or Vibrant or Captivate), will the phone be able to work on 3G?
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Tab is a Cell phone, just gigantic! one at that LOL
you can make phone calls with Samsung Tab, just like the Apple iTab... ipad i mean
AllGamer said:
Tab is a Cell phone, just gigantic! one at that LOL
you can make phone calls with Samsung Tab, just like the Apple iTab... ipad i mean
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Yes, but if Bell already sells the dataonly plan for iPad, why they don't sell a dataonly plan also for a smartphone?
because they can claim a Tab is "not a phone" (whatever...)
and a Galaxy is a "phone"
garyHal said:
I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
Thanks
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I currently have a I9000 and am on ATT's network in southern california. I'm all but satisfied since my coverage is poor indoors and in some areas because of the lack of 850 band support.
I'm looking to move instead to the I9000M from Bell to get the added 850 3g coverage. Were you able to get a phone, root, unlock it and upgrade to froyo 2.2? Can you tell me about your experience so far including testing for 3-button boot into recovery? Where and how much you got the phone for out-the-door? Thanks.
Sorry mate, still waiting on mine, can't believe its been a month. An xda member here indicated that the stores in Canada are out of stock for awhile now.
Using TMO Tab with OC Kernel 2.1.6 (and bought a few six-packs for Alter to say TY for the great job!) and have been actively following the threads on the T-Mobile Modem.
Can't post in Dev section yet, so I am dropping this here in the hopes I can get an answer. There is a "bounty" offered on one thread for a modem.bin that will work with the T-Mo Tab, but so far no solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951930
For what it is worth, I am in for $50.00 on this, too, but I won't post for the sake of getting up to the required number to get on the Dev boards, so I am hoping the OP on this thread sees this and can add me.
Triplex76, at the end of the thread says he got this working:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13585472&postcount=182
I have downloaded the t959 (galaxy s tmobile) modem.bin Triplex recommended, but I get the same poor result Roto reported in numerous threads - seems the signal comes and goes and this is too unstable to use.
Triplex indicated you have to have the corrrect email.apk to make this work, and I figure I do, with OC's ROM.
Can anyone else who has tried this yet weigh in? Keeping fingers crossed.
I scolded him for putting that stuff up without a complete explanation. Outside of the US some members can use a T959 vibrant modem and get voice, data, and 3g speed. But in the US it is not possible, so the bounty is out there to encourage someone to work around the T-Mo restriction. In the US we can use the Roto Switch to get those features, as two separate modem flashes. Sorry.
Thank you for the insight. Near as I can tell the modem will work well in Europe (3G and Voice there vs 2G and Voice or 3G only here). I am on an upcoming working vacation in Europe in September and need data there for maps, nav, contact with tour providers, hotels, rail, etc. Net-net very data intensive. Appreciate your clarifying the distinction. Seems ironic that my only.optimal experience will be over there unless a fix for Tmous modem comes sooner.
Now I have to find a reasonable global SIM card. Or switch my eoc Verizon to a new AT&T phone and use that SIM.
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You can get T-Mobile prepaid sims in a lot of Europe. You are better off that way, to get the 3g on their unique frequency.
Question about SIM cards
Ranger -
Thanks for the advice. I just saw the latest Overcome ROM so I will be downloading and running the full install before I wrap up the night.
Meantime, I am still struggling with the SIM thing - I have a VZ phone coming off contract next month, and I am thinking of switching to an AT&T. Do you know if I can use that SIM for voice and data in the T-Mo Tab overseas (or here with the 2G Data until someone comes up with a modem )? I can get a local SIM once I am on the ground there, but I have to have access once the plane lands as I have a group of 4 of us I am responsible for managing travel for.
On an aside, I was hoping the Gingerbread release would offer some better modem options but it now seems there may never be a fix, which is too bad, because I would infinitely rather have just one device (my Tab!).
Thanks infinitely for your help and enjoy the new ROM!
@Ranger - Can you help me out again please?
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You can get T-Mobile prepaid sims in a lot of Europe. You are better off that way, to get the 3g on their unique frequency.
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I flashed Hermes, then Icarus, and the Tab Experience gets better each time! I am now able to use the modem switcher (and by changing the line to "reboot normal" in gscript, it still reboots - not bad for a noob, huh? ), but I want to use this as my primary phone, so T-Mo seems to be out.
Can I buy either the AT&T or the International TAB if I want 3G+Data and am willing to get a 3rd Party pay-go SIM (like Tru)? Thank you again for all your help!
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I flashed Hermes, then Icarus, and the Tab Experience gets better each time! I am now able to use the modem switcher (and by changing the line to "reboot normal" in gscript, it still reboots - not bad for a noob, huh? ), but I want to use this as my primary phone, so T-Mo seems to be out.
Can I buy either the AT&T or the International TAB if I want 3G+Data and am willing to get a 3rd Party pay-go SIM (like Tru)? Thank you again for all your help!
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In the US, the at&t tab is the best "everything" experience. Friends in Spain and Isreal have done what you thought - they bought a local sim equivelent to t-mobile (2100 band, without the 1700 band) and the Roto 2g modem gave them voice and 3g data with their t-mobile tab! I have not verified this, so perhaps a few members can confirm this for you.
Bottom line -- at&t tab will do everything everywhere you are traveling. T-mobile, with the switch, -- might do most of what you want. The international tab is mostly like at&t tab, it will work voice and 3g everywhere.
I have a t-mobile galaxy tab that I am now using on Att, I installed the newest overcome rom, have been trying different modems but so far cannot seem to be able to get 3g to work. To clarify I am using att sim card in a att 3g area. Is there a specific modem to achieve this or some settings I need to set?
My t-mobile vibrant that is unlocked, works perfectly fine with the same att sim and I get 3g, can make calls and use data simultaneously.
Have you gone through your vpn settings?
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I have checked the APN settings and everything looks the same as what is set on my vibrant that is getting 3g.
I understand there ARE hardware differences between AT&T and T-Mo versions. As a result....only Edge on T-Mo network with AT&T tab....and only Edge on AT&T network with T-Mo tab.
I know...sux!
Oh, I was hoping that the hardware was just the same and the software was different on each carrier, like each one only enabled certain frequencies. Especially since the Vibrant is able to get 3g with At&t.
Big differences in the radios. They are compatible on each others voice frequencies, but they don't have the correct data frequencies.
what are your apn settings to make the att sim work and get data??
I flashed overcome v2.0.0 gold on my tmobile tab and flashed the jk3 modem for att... is that the modem I need to flash to work with at&t? I only get voice and 2G only. Someone said maybe I need to flash jpz modem? would that get 3g data on my tmobile tab with at&t sim?
I give up. What's the point of posting accurate information if people won't read it?
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I give up. What's the point of posting accurate information if people won't read it?
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Standing right beside you Captain.
I feel sad Cap, the crush on galaxy tab made me buy a Tmo TAB and I am a ATT user. I just want to sell my current one and get a ATT to enable 3G data...damn...
I have two tabs: the t-mobile tab I first bought, and the at&t tab I bought after I learned.
Verizon is killing me on my D2 so I was wondering if I flash my tmo gt7 with Hermes and purchased a tmo pay to use sim, would I be able to make calls and data from my tab?
Thanks
You cant use your Verizon on Tmo, ypu can however tether from the other device to your galaxy tab.
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dave52355 said:
Verizon is killing me on my D2 so I was wondering if I flash my tmo gt7 with Hermes and purchased a tmo pay to use sim, would I be able to make calls and data from my tab?
Thanks
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The pay as you go is for broadband (data) only. So with that sim card, 3g but no voice.
galexandr said:
You cant use your Verizon on Tmo, ypu can however tether from the other device to your galaxy tab.
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No I want to get away from Verizon, Just wondered if a tmo pay to go voice/sim and a flash of my tmo gt7 would make the tablet useful for both voice/data?
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Yes, you can do that. The voice pay as you go isn't too pricey, but the data part is really bad (expensive).
I tried SimpleMobile, and I was satisfied with the coverage. The unlimited voice and data was $70 pay as you go, and works everywhere t-mobile works.
You will have to do an extra step, installing the Rotohammer modem switch to have voice and data on a US t-mobile tab.
Sounds like what I am looking for. Will the SimplyMobile SIM roam like T-mobile does? We actually live in a " dead " T-mobile area. T-mobile has an agreement with the local GSM provider but not for Data on tablets. However, T-mobile voice/data phones works fine.
Thanks
SimpleMobile uses/rents t-mobile's bands/towers. So, same coverage area.
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
As strange as it may sound I want to use a Galaxy Note as an internet only device.
Is there a way that I can use one of the AT&T data only options (Data Connect Plan) on this device?
I currently have the AT&T version of the Galaxy Note. AT&T has confirmed to me that there is no way to have a data only plan for it. I simply to not want to dump $40 dollars a month on a phone service I will not use just to get the right to pay them $30 for data.
So, I am trying to explore if the international version is the answer.
What is important to me is the size and features of the Galaxy Note.
What is not important to me is 4g or phone service.
Any help or definitive answer would be appreciated.
I would imagine it should. ATT won't have a record of your IMEI number so they really don't know what the device is. Other people have been using the non- smartphone data plan on ATT, but the occasionally get booted up to the smartphone plan with so much data usage. Just tell them you have a 3g tablet you want to hook up. I'd buy a new sim card just to make sure you don't have issues with your old account. Not definitive, but just the fact that people are using international notes on dumbphone data says a lot.
AT&T and T Mobile
Hi, I have a unlocked N7000 that I picked up in India earlier this year. I live in the UK and works very well over her on Vodafone. I was in the US last week. I tried AT&T and was told by the techie that it will not work on the 4G network. Then went to T Mobile where I was told it would work only on 2G - Landed up buying a SIM card from them to see that my pre-paid balance dropped drastically and they were very unhelpful when I went back to them - they guy in the store told me that he can not access my use. I did not make any international calls on it at all. I landed up buying a SIMPLE Mobile sim card and it worked well between 3G and 2G. It even worked when I was at Hoover Dam. The Samsung website does give all the platforms it works on and I cant see why it would should not work on AT&T.
Also read the customer reviews of the Samsung Galaxy Note N7000 16GB Unlocked Android Smartphone - Dark Blue on the Amazon US website. One of the users has written up on it. As I am a new user I am not able to put the link on this reply.
Hope it's helpful. Good Luck.
Thanks for the input so far, but...
Well, what I am looking for is the "data only" type of service. This is for USB (Mobile) Modem, tablets, iPad's, etc. AT&T callis it data connect. I currently have the pre-paid version of it for for a 7in. tablet. And it (the service) work just perfect on that device.
I have read lots of posts talking about data, but when you focus in it normally is the other way around, a phone service option where they can't get the data to work correctly.
Again, all I want is data, I don't want phone service. If anyone has done this with their Note, I would appreciate a heads up on how it worked out.
I'm currently using my Note with my ATT ipad sim. Been using that sim in my mifi, a couple of laptops with 3G, an iphone and now my note. Been using it that way since the 3G Ipad first came out 3 years ago. I believe that all the data sims use the same apn. Just enter broadband as the APN. I have seen speeds from 1.9Mbps to 8.2Mbps, usually around 4 until lately...been getting 6.5. I consistently get 1Mbps up. The connection is has been very stable, Skype voice has been working very well.
Your data sim and note will work without modification, just enter the APN. In my case, I made an adapter since the ipad is a micro sim, the store bought adapter I had was too thick for the note. Be very careful when using micro sims, it can be a PTA to get them out. For removal I usually slide plastic or cardboard between the sim and the contact pins so the adapter does not get caught on the pins and then work the sim out with an exacto blade.
If you want ipad service, just go into an ATT and tell them you lost your ipad sim and you left your ipad at home. Who remembers your their data phone number? They will sell you a replacement. Then just barrow someone's 3g ipad, insert your sim, go into settings and create your account with your credit card #. Remove your sim and your done. The other person can put their sim, sign in and that's it. Once a month you get an email saying ATT billed your account and it shows up on your statement.
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I just looked at ATT's site, guess it does not matter anymore, they made Data cost the same across the board. Does not matter if it's pre paid, post paid or ipad, it's all the same now.
Just the news I was looking for, THANKS!
Great news. Thanks for taking the time to share that with me.
For any future readers, just to confirm:
A DATA ONLY plan with a 3G sim from AT&T worked fine in the gt-n7000, international version of the galaxy note.
If anyone has information to the contrary please feel free to update this thread.