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Just was wondering what people have been using to protect their N1s now that its been out for a while, and how has it held up. I like the look of the N1 on its own without cases, and was thinking of using the little pouch that came with the box with no other case. Is this a wise move?
I have a case on my phone and an anti-glare screen protector (don't get anti glare it ruins the screen's look and colors) the reason I don't use the pouch is it gets annoying to take the phone out of my pocket with the pouch on then have to remove the phone from the pouch.
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The slip case that came with the phone
Seidio Innocase works for me. See the XDA Nexus acessories section...
I've got an Otterbox Commuter series case that I use when I'm on "business" trips or at other times that my phone is likely to be handled roughly. That case is no joke. Actually, I would probably use that case all the time if I didn't use my car dock every time I drive. It takes a bit of time to pull the phone out of the case several times a day. I generally just use the slip case that came with the phone. Does a good job of fighting off scratches, and is still easy to remove so I can install the phone in a dock in just a moment.
Just a screen protector, I have used cases/covers etc, and always end up coming back to just nothing I like the slim feeling
I like the slim look also, thats why i think im going to stick with the little android pouch that came in the box. Just hope it doesnt cause any black marks on the sides or anything. Previous owner of the nexus said he never used a case but made sure nothing else was in his pocket and the phone looks brand new with no marks anywhere.
On one of my other N1s there are some dust particles under the screen on the bottom left. 1 of them is big enough to look like a dead pixel when the screen is on, the rest are not noticeable. Anyone have a easy fix to get rid of the dust? That one particle is starting to annoy me.
Ever since I lost the neoprene case, I have been going commando.
Case-Mate "Tough Case" and the screen protector that came with it.
Transparent polycarb hard-case from eBay. Beautiful and strong, but no docking possible.
Stealth guard and there pouch that came with it
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I've got an Otterbox Commuter series case that I use when I'm on "business" trips or at other times that my phone is likely to be handled roughly. That case is no joke. Actually, I would probably use that case all the time if I didn't use my car dock every time I drive. It takes a bit of time to pull the phone out of the case several times a day. I generally just use the slip case that came with the phone. Does a good job of fighting off scratches, and is still easy to remove so I can install the phone in a dock in just a moment.
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I do similar: when I'm traveling, I put the N1 in my Otterbox Commuter case and enable the PIN the lock. Otherwise, no case and no PIN.
A gel skin for me.
I put a screen protector on it to cut down on sweaty fingerprints during the summer, otherwise nothing. I've had mine since it came out for ATT (march?) and it's still perfect. Just keep keys and change in the other pocket.
i'm using a silicone slip on protector. i'm too scare i'll drop it without it otherwise i would go commando but i have nerve damage in my right hand so my control over parts of my hand are sub par compared to normal people
my ulnar nerve was severed by glass and repaired but i still do not have full function of the minor muscles in my hand and only have partial feeling in the pinky/ring finger and that side of my hand so thicker phones are more comfortable in my hand and the super rubber grip around the whole thing makes it very hard if not impossible for it to slip out of my hand.
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Just was wondering what people have been using to protect their N1s now that its been out for a while, and how has it held up. I like the look of the N1 on its own without cases, and was thinking of using the little pouch that came with the box with no other case. Is this a wise move?
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I use BestSkinsEver (for a fraction of the cost of an InvisibleShield) protection and a horizontal leather Case Logic pouch... I used to have a silicon protector but it was a pain in the butt because it collects dust and lint like crazy!
I am having a hard time deciding between the seidio Rugged or one of the otterbox cases. I am a contractor and need a protective case badly. I have had the incredible since launch. used the case/belt clip combo from verizon store...the one that doesn't cover the ends...dumb case imo. and ended up taking that off recently to just slide phone in pocket, as that case didn't protect the phone very much at all. but the best one available at the store at launch.
I ended up having to get a replacement phone, and recieved it today. I want to be able to protect this one better.
Physical damage and dust are both a problem durring work hours.
I wish I could find these new cases at a local store to compare in person.
Has anyone seen both of these types of cases?
which do you like better, and why?
I am leaning toward the seido because of the two different cases that come with it. I like to slide the phone in my pocket on weekends.
thanks,
Jon
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I am having a hard time deciding between the seidio Rugged or one of the otterbox cases. I am a contractor and need a protective case badly. I have had the incredible since launch. used the case/belt clip combo from verizon store...the one that doesn't cover the ends...dumb case imo. and ended up taking that off recently to just slide phone in pocket, as that case didn't protect the phone very much at all. but the best one available at the store at launch.
I ended up having to get a replacement phone, and recieved it today. I want to be able to protect this one better.
Physical damage and dust are both a problem durring work hours.
I wish I could find these new cases at a local store to compare in person.
Has anyone seen both of these types of cases?
which do you like better, and why?
I am leaning toward the seido because of the two different cases that come with it. I like to slide the phone in my pocket on weekends.
thanks,
Jon
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Oh wow, your story is a direct parallel to mine! I am a mechanical contractor (HVAC/R) who also has the incredible since launch, I myself have been using the the belt clip and shell that resembles diamond plate sold by verizon, an ok case but just doesnt cut it in the trades.
A month ago I bought the Otterbox defender, while it covers the phone well and adds much better protection, the fit of the phone inside is poor, I broke the belt clip two weeks into owning it. Otterbox did replace the belt clip but the time it took was almost two weeks. Just a few days ago the little detent on the otterbox that holds the phone in the holster broke so now I'm back to square one.
Just yesterday I decided to ordered Seidio Rugged case from amazon, I never owned nor held one but I figured it would be money better spent rather than buying another otterbox. I just don't think the otterbox quality is quite there. I expect to have the new case on or around 1-06-2011 and after I get it and put it to use I will update you on it so you can make a better decision.
thanks for the response...
I have read about different peoples experiences with these different cases, and still wish I could see them in person before purchasing. I am really close to going ahead with the Seidio Rugged, and might order it today.
Jon
I'm also a contractor installing satellites and am very happy with the Seidio Rugged.
What sold me on the Seidio Rugged was the "Face In" design and the 3 layers of protection. Sure, the 3 layers adds mega thickness but doing all the "cell destructive" stuff I do, it's a very minor thing to deal with. In fact, the few times I've taken the case off, the phone felt too small and fragile.
On the second Seidio Rugged case simply because in a stupid moment just grabbed the phone and ripped it off my belt instead of taking the clip off. No idea what was thinking but needed a new clip so just got the whole thing again.
But yeah, if you use a tool belt, climb ladders, crawl under houses, or any of the crazy dirty stuff contractors do, get a Rugged.
landscape installer/maintainer here. go with the seidio. im hard on all my stuff. and i have had the rugged for 6 mo. and havent destroyed it yet. locking mech. and belt clip still work fine. and the 3 layers on the actual case is very protective.
got mine on amazon for under 40 shipped.
seidio rugged here also.. best case Ive used...
I ordered the Seidio rugged today.
looking forward to it getting it here...
My Seidio Rugged outer skeleton snapped yesterday. I wasn't applying any pressure, just taking it off and snap. So I ordered a Case-Mate Tough Case. I'm sure it will work just fine.
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My Seidio Rugged outer skeleton snapped yesterday. I wasn't applying any pressure, just taking it off and snap. So I ordered a Case-Mate Tough Case. I'm sure it will work just fine.
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This happened to mine as well. Seidio is good about replacing it....no real need to buy a new case. At any rate I recommend the rugged case. I have dropped my phone more times than I would care to admit and this case has saved it a few times over. I figured my exoskeleton was weakened from all the drops...and I had the tendency to take it off and put it back on for no reason when i got bored. Also it looks bad *** in my opinion...
Well as I explained in an earlier post I have been using the Otterbox Defender and while it offers more protection than other cases I have used it simply seem to lack quality and convenience. I did order the Seidio Rugged case to give it a shot and to my suprise when I came home from work today my rugged case was delivered. I wasn't expecting it until 1-06-2011.
I have to say after getting my phone in it and set up my initial feelings are it appears to be a well designed case that offers very nice protection to the phone and actually adds less bulk than the otterbox. I have not used it in the field yet but I will update after a day or two in the field. But I must say at this moment I am very pleased with my decision on the Rugged case and am kicking myself in the but for not making it my first my first choice.
received the Rugged case today....
the case was in the mailbox today.
I am impressed with the case. and will feel a lot better about the protection for my Incredible phone when on the job site. When all of the case components are on the phone, it definitely adds quite a bit of bulk. That will be something for me to get use to, for sure. But, I feel that it will not be a problem.
I can totally understand how some people have accidently torn the rubber access piece off that covers the micro usb port. I hope I don't tear it off, but realistically feel that it is just a matter of time, as it is a very small piece of rubber that keeps it attached...
I really like the fact that the innocase II is the base layer. I expect that it will be my weekend case.
I thought about not applying the screen protector, due to the problems i have had in the past applying screen protectors (ie...bubbles that won't go away, dust particles, etc.)...but, decided to try it. Well, it applied better than I ever could have hoped for. I started by aligning it at the top around the ear speaker, and just smoothed it out as I let it apply itself to the screen. It fits well for the most part, but could have been just a hair longer from top to bottom.
I am excited to have this case. I only wish I had not waited this long to make myself spend the money on it.
Hopefully i will be this happy with it in the coming days and weeks...
Jon
jon1029 said:
I can totally understand how some people have accidently torn the rubber access piece off that covers the micro usb port. I hope I don't tear it off, but realistically feel that it is just a matter of time, as it is a very small piece of rubber that keeps it attached...
Jon
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I tore the rubber camera protector flap off my rugged maybe 2 months ago now, I contacted Seidio and they had a replacement outer rubber to me within a week. They are good about replacements.
(Note I was also only a week outside of the warranty period)
Seidio Rugged is a Wonderful Case
I have had the Seidio Rugged case for about two weeks now and it's wonderful! I don't find myself using the holster much, only when I go on a run do I attach it to an armband and slip the phone in the case so I can track my runs with Cardio Trainer.
I really like the feel of the case. It makes me feel like I'm holding a more powerful phone in my hands, whereas without the case, I feel like it's just too light to perform as well as it does. lol. However, size doesn't matter as some say, and is always a personal preference.
I would definitely say get the case if you want more protection and are willing to make the phone a few millimeters thicker. I definitely worry less about my phone breaking now. My only gripe is the camera cover tends not to stay pinned back in the little restraint Seidio made for it. Beyond that, wonderful case all around and I'd recommend getting it.
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My only gripe is the camera cover tends not to stay pinned back in the little restraint Seidio made for it.
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Bloody hell!!!!
Have had this case for months and have FOUGHT that damn flap every time!! Never even noticed that little hole.... Use the flash light app every day almost to see behind peoples TV's and audio equipment and have always had to hold the flap down....
Thank you VERY MUCH for your post. Feel like an idiot, but happy to know it now.
As a construction worker, I was about to buy an Otterbox before stumbling upon this thread. Did some research, looked at a few videos, and I think I'm gonna settle for the Seidio now. Either way, both look like great cases and I couldn't go wrong with either. The Seidio on the other hand converts to a normal case when not on the job site, so that's where it wins IMO. Also, the belt clip looks better designed. Thanks XDA! You guys rule!
Cannot say I have ANY complaints about the rugged. Think about it this way: when you need it protected, you have 3 layers + a holster. If you want simple, but cased, you got the Innocase II underneath which still can hold its own as a case not to mention that it looks nice and slim also. The thing that sold me though was the holster. It comes with a lock switch which means that this baby aint never falling off. I can remove, unlock, lock, attach the phone all with my index and thumb. So easy, yet so secure.
However, I did have one gripe about this phone, and that was the covers for the USB port and the Headphone jack. It has no notches to pull out easily and it tends to get lost in the groove that it fits in to. At first, I was extremely aggravated that this happened and was worried I would ruin the rubber. BUT I found that when I pinch the sides of the case (which I totally forgot was rubber), the flaps would pop out like nothing.
So yes, the one thing that would have held me back was solved, and I am happy to report that this thing is a beast. Of course if you don't want a big thing to lug around, then don't get this, but I gotta say... it feels like a tank, and I feel secure taking this thing everywhere with me now. =D
I've had the rugged for quite a while...just to have it really. Being a social worker doesn't really but my dinc at risk. I do enjoy the feel of having it in the case when I do though, although it seems that sometimes the holster seems to catch the rubber a bit more than I'd like. I'm glad to see it seems to be a step above the otterbox.
i'm been using the ottorbox commuter and i've had no problem, i love it cause its not as bulky as other cases.
Ya definitely going with the seidio rugged case setup. I can do without the belt clip attachment though. I can see that breaking off within a week at work with me. But the rest of the case(s) are just what I'm looking for.
Thanks for the thoughts, I am in the same boat as you guys.
Its an accessories related question and i hope its ok to ask here. I just received my Nexus 7 32GB and loving it! As what i would do usually, I immediately started looking for back cases / covers / pouches for this lovely device and then I tought, does it really need one? The material at the back doesnt look like the one that could easily be scratched. But then I see so many cases around and people using them. Maybe to better protect the device when/if it falls? I dont like folio cases anyway and only buying a back case looks like a waste.
Any suggestions?
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It can get scratched. I have mine in a case almost all the time and I found a scratch on mine somehow
While it's not essential, I'd still go with a case, because you just never know what may befall your new shiny tablet. Since a lot of cases on the market appear to be cheap and ugly, buy something that is well built and from quality materials. This may set you back $50 or more, but trust me, it's well worth it. The tablet will just feel better in your hand, more secure, and you won't have to worry about the screen being scratched or it getting dinged on the side.
Ever since I got my Norever leather case I like the way my N7 feels way more than it does without it.
If you're only interested in a "back case" then I would consider the Incipio Feather. Here's my review. The Feather did come with a screen protector, but I'm with the others in this thread and I would just go with a full case to protect the whole thing.
FULL DISCLOSURE: The Feather was provided to me by Incipio for the purpose of review. I do not receive any compensation for my reviews.
Protection required
I would have to agree that i enjoy having my nexus out of a case . I like the feel of the back and for me it would not get scratched as im careful.. But I use it while im out and about all the time.. I have almost dropped it a few times.I think if you drop this device and it hits the edge of bezel The screen will crack.So i recommend having a nice case . For me i have the bobjgear silicone case . It does add bulk and the nice look of the device . But it provices alot of protection.
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I am thinking of a simple plain matte black slim tpu case. Let's see if I can find one.
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Well, having dropped my N7 twice, I can attest to getting a case for the Nexus lol. Both drops were from at least 3 feet and the first one went down rolling to the sidewalk from my truck in my Treegloo case. The N7 came unscathed but the Treegloo had an indentation that could barely notice. The second fall was in the garage cement floor. This time the fall was straight down back side down and went SPLAT. I freaked!:silly: and immediately took it out and found it turned on fine and the glass was uncracked. So I went inside and put the N7 down but noticed the cover didn't sit flush like it normally did, so I took the N7 out of the case and saw the backing corners were coming undone and I had to press down to re-snap them back into the corners again.
Now the treelgoo has been semi-retired now that I have the Seidio Active case on. It works because I now also use the Kropsson Aero modded universal car mount and using the treegloo wouldn't work in that case.
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as in the title yes, I have had a couple of small falls and one or two larger ones, and having the stock official ASUS ones may have saved it a lot of times, so getting any that will have some bump protection is a definite go ahead
call it insurance
I like the naked feel of the N7 in my hand. It's just right. The options available are all over the map. Those folding contraptions remind me of the old paper maps that I could never get right. The armored ones look like two handers and you are going to drop test it because it's a job just to handle all that bulk. I'm going with a leather YooMee pouch [correction: they call it a sleeve] for transport purposes and working the N7 raw.
Noticed Otterbox just announced the Defender series for the N7.
I like Otterbox but $70 is too expensive for a plastic case. Hell, you get a hand made leather Noreve case for $72.
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I like the naked feel of the N7 in my hand. It's just right. The options available are all over the map. Those folding contraptions remind me of the old paper maps that I could never get right. The armored ones look like two handers and you are going to drop test it because it's a job just to handle all that bulk. I'm going with a leather YooMee pouch for transport purposes and working the N7 raw.
Noticed Otterbox just announced the Defender series for the N7.
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I think this would be good. I am not too worried about dropping it but more want to protect it from scratches. A nice leather pouch is what I need. Thanks! Off to eBay
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I only use a case outside of my house, otherwise for reading and such I go caseless. I have carpet everywhere and even with a couple drops it's not damaged. It's pretty solid.
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I like Otterbox but $70 is too expensive for a plastic case. Hell, you get a hand made leather Noreve case for $72.
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You're right about that. I figure once things settle down they'll run in the $50 neighborhood. Still, as much as I love Otterbox, I'm afraid it will add too much bulk and that's entirely too much for a stand.
I've had all sorts of adventures with my nexus 7, and to be honest back plate is as good as new, the silver border however is a different story.
I went with a Cruzerlite TPU case $19 doesn't add any bulk really comes in all colors with cool design on the back (they are the androids)
Hello all
I'm looking for a soft material (leather, fake leather, canvas what ever) belt clip holster for a Note 5 that is in a Otterbox defender as well.
Hopefully the holster would host most of the device but still be easy to slip out and also would have a magnetic closing clip.
Basically I need to the Otterbox due to my environment, and tried it yesterday for the first time and it was great, but the clip on holster for it that comes with that I can see is not going to work.
For the one smartphone I had before it was considerably smaller but I had a holster for that, and in using both, I know that is what I need.
So does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks greatly for any help.
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Hello all
I'm looking for a soft material (leather, fake leather, canvas what ever) belt clip holster for a Note 5 that is in a Otterbox defender as well.
Hopefully the holster would host most of the device but still be easy to slip out and also would have a magnetic closing clip.
Basically I need to the Otterbox due to my environment, and tried it yesterday for the first time and it was great, but the clip on holster for it that comes with that I can see is not going to work.
For the one smartphone I had before it was considerably smaller but I had a holster for that, and in using both, I know that is what I need.
So does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks greatly for any help.
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I use one of these, I picked up when getting an oil filter for my car, holds my note 5 in an otterbox symmetry, as well as a nexus 6 in a slim case, at the same time. should be plenty for the note in a defender
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/d...yword=phone&pt=N1687&ppt=C0107#itemDetailTab_
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CNWNTHO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Use this with my Note 5 and spigen case. Used this when I had a note 4 and commuter case as well.
Hey guys.
Been a while since I made this post so I kinda forgot about it, but thought I would post what I did end up getting.
Got this off ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/371557478974?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Given its price as you can expect its not top shelf quality in materials and construction.
Basically for this unit I actually found one of some other brand that had a dif imprint on the front, but it was completely the same in every other way. So I guess point is, there is probably some cheap maker who sells to a few resellers.
Again the quality is not great and for both they had some bad assembly quality and in actually in completely dif areas. So guess my point is, is kinda a crap shoot as to what issues is might have.
But if its just a little off at first, funny things with these is they do tend to stretch and eventually mold to your phone. But will say the one I am using now even had the center part for the clip a bit off the 0-180 mark, so its already getting worn out an loose.
But probably the biggest thing I would say is that while the phone and with the otter box cover fit into the sleeve part nice, the front cover really did not close right at first.
Basic problem is that as it uses a magnet, the phone with the otter box was a little to tall an so the cover could not wrap around the top enough to meet its counterpart contact inline.
So basically the cover would just sit flapped open a bit.
For this though it actually was not that far away, so what I did was spend sometime with a heat gun and the phone in the case and just heated the outside and pulled on it till I stretched it enough that it made good contact.
Thankfully I was able to do this without doing and physical damage to the material either.
In the end the case is pretty good for me, was nice and cheap which if you're in a harsh environment like me is good as any is going to get destroyed, so at least I am not doing that to a more costly case.
Fit is good enough and while in need of a little work when I got it, after now is fine.
Down sides is I am sure given the quality it will only last a year or two, but hey who keeps any device longer then that. Also its a gamble to what ever defects it might have when it comes and perhaps if bad enough, may not be usable at all.
Hope that is help to others.
I'm a little late to the game, but I wanted to put my 2 cents out there about this case.
I bought this case outright - no discounts for doing a review, no freebee for doing a review, just straight up cash out of my pocket, and no, I'm not affiliated with the manufacturer or any of it's retailers.
I got the case a few days before a long road trip to Gloucester, Mass and Philadelphia , Penn from Melbourne , Florida and decided to bring just this case with me. After a 12 day trip, here's my impressions.
Why did I buy it?
It has a very utilitarian look about it, which I like! The case isn't meant to be pretty, it's meant to protect your phone - which is the exact reason why I buy cases! But for those of you who like color, there are some color options available (all of which were too bright for my tastes) . Plus it comes with a belt holster, which in my line of work I need because my pockets are always fulled with work-related stuff that can easily scratch a screen , and when not at work I always have my concealed carry pistol in my front right pocket , which is where I would otherwise put my phone! Plus it keeps the phone out of the way when I am out fishing. One other thing that caught my eye - many reviews have said that they were able to use a curved tempered-glass screen protector with this case without breaking the edges of the protector - BONUS! I haven't bought a tempered glass protector yet, but it's on my list!
What did I like about it?
It fits the phone like a glove. No wiggle room, no flex, no bending - it fits and that's all there is to it! Many cases available today , while they look and feel great in the hand, have a bit of flex to them and will come off if you bump them right or snag them right going in/out of your pocket. It makes the phone feel like a tank instead of a fragile glass Christmas ornament that was handed down over the years from your great-great-great-great grandmother who brought it over from Germany before WWI , but while at the same time doesn't add a lot of bulk or extraneous weight. Yes - it does add bulk, and yes it adds weight, but we're not talking to the same extent that an Otterbox would! Although Supcase only references "Hulk without the bulk" on it's ads for the S7 Active cases, I feel it's fitting for this case as well! Unlike the vast majority of Supcase's other cases, the S7 Edge model does NOT come with an integrated screen protector (which is also the case with Otterbox's Defender offering for the S7 Edge). This is a plus for me, because with any integrated screen protector, I tend to rip them off and throw them away before the case ever makes it onto my phone. The holster isn't one of the cheap pieces of trash that comes with a lot of low-priced cases. it gives the impression that it will last for a long time, or at the very least, for the life of the phone. The belt clip on the holster is very firm without being overly rigid. The phone snaps into the case with the good solid CLICK, but doesn't require you to have to take the holster off of your belt to get the phone out. For the occasion that I want to pocket my phone, it slides in and out without snagging or pulling lint out of the pocket on the phone.
What didn't I like about it?
While I personally can't complaint about anything, these are what I feel someone might comment about negatively: The holster doesn't have a kick-stand function to it like Otterbox's , however, even if it did, the phone won't go into the holster with the screen facing out! For me - I don't use kickstands, and I'd never have a reason to put the phone into the holster with the screen facing out.
What are my "wish-list" items for the product?
I wish I could find some type of spray-paint to make this case a nice subdued militaristic color, or maybe multiple colors. If anyone can suggest a brand, let me know!
I wish that I would have tried this case sooner - while other cases I've tried were pretty, they just didn't do the job that I feel this one will protecting from an impact or fall.
I wish SupCase would expand their product line just a little further - would love to have one of these Unicorn Beetle cases for my LG tablet!
Where can you get one?
I personally got mine from eBay, but you can also get it on Amazon as well as from Supcase at http://www.supcase.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-cases.html
Been eying this case for the last few days and I think I might take the plunge. I have a Cover-Ups wood back explorer case that looks very nice but offers minimal drop protection. I'm thinking that this will be a nice addition for day-to-day use and my wood back case for when I want something that looks a little nicer.
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Been eying this case for the last few days and I think I might take the plunge. I have a Cover-Ups wood back explorer case that looks very nice but offers minimal drop protection. I'm thinking that this will be a nice addition for day-to-day use and my wood back case for when I want something that looks a little nicer.
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I have a Caseology Envoy for just such an occasion, but unfortunately it's one of those that I had mentioned slips off if it hit it just right.
This review is right on target. This is the second and only case I'll buy for this phone. Got the phone on impulse and needed a case asap but ordered this one right away. I've always got the Beetle PRO cases with whatever phone I had at the time and they've always been exceptional!
Straight black is the only way to go! I was wondering when someone was going to do a review on it
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Straight black is the only way to go!
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You got that right! :good: