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I'm going to buy a 16GB microsd card from sandisk. I've been finding on Amazon and found these two products:
Sandisk 16GB Mobile Ultra MicroSD Card : £36.00
SanDisk 16GB microSDHC Memory Card : £15.99
I've also noticed they're all class 2 (can't find a class 4 or class 6 sandisk). So what is the difference between them? I'm using the card for Windows Phone 7, so which one should I buy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_Memory_Card#SDHC_cards_with_greater_than_32.C2.A0GB_capacity
as I understand it the only advantage of SDHC is an increased card storage. And im not sure if an SDHC card works in the HD2.
uxu said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SD_Memory_Card#SDHC_cards_with_greater_than_32.C2.A0GB_capacity
as I understand it the only advantage of SDHC is an increased card storage. And im not sure if an SDHC card works in the HD2.
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Both of them should be SDHC (>2GB). I'm asking about the Ultra thing.
Zell Dinch said:
Both of them should be SDHC (>2GB). I'm asking about the Ultra thing.
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Sorry, got it wrong
They're the same thing. One has an adapter however
Ultra means it has higher transfer speeds.
There's also Ultra and Extreme in the regular SDs.
Ultra=15 mb/s
Extreme=30 mb/s
So it's all about speed.
@apallohadas: they have different model number, one is SDSDQY-016G-E11M and one is SDSDQ-016G-FFP. And I suspect that just a card reader will make that difference in price.
@joooe: but they're both class 2?
I've tried several different class cards in my HD2, and regardless of advertised 'class' r/w speeds only changed noticeably if I took it out of my phone and used a card reader or adapter like shown in the "ultra" listing you have.
apallohadas said:
I've tried several different class cards in my HD2, and regardless of advertised 'class' r/w speeds only changed noticeably if I took it out of my phone and used a card reader or adapter like shown in the "ultra" listing you have.
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Hello apallohadas
can you confirm or any one without any doubt that there is no difference in R/W speed between class 2 or class 4 or class 6 inside HD2 with Windows 6.5 or Android
thanks
secoseco said:
Hello apallohadas
can you confirm or any one without any doubt that there is no difference in R/W speed between class 2 or class 4 or class 6 inside HD2 with Windows 6.5 or Android
thanks
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I don't have Winmo installed on my phone anymore, so I can't rerun that test and I didn't keep the numbers last time that I did it.
But if you'd like to try testing cards yourself, I used a program called H2test and a card adapter. My Class 2 Sandisk 32GB card gave numbers comparable to a class 6 Transcend 16GB.
Inside of the HD2 however, while on Android the tests take too long (setting read/write file sizes of 1GB+.) I've read in several places that the hardware limits performance as though they were all class 2 cards.
There are reviews where a class 4 card is superior to a class 6 card.
Sandisk cards are just great.
In the sandisk website there is no info about the class of both cards. Don't believe they have the same class.
apallohadas said:
I I've read in several places that the hardware limits performance as though they were all class 2 cards.
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thank you apallohadas for replay
I think so, hardware limitation to Class 2 with HD2 although I read in several places that there is more performance with Class 6 or 10 card in Android especially SD Android
I have Sandisk 16G class 2 and want to upgrade to 32G and I don't want to wast my money in useless class 6 or 10 with my EU HD2,
any one use Sandisk class2 then upgrade to class4 or 6 with EU HD2 and get faster performance in read and write inside HD2 not as disk drive ??
thanks
Hello
I got my Legend about 2 months ago, and I have a big problem with storage space...
What is the biggest sized SD card the Legend can use?
What is the type of SD card (micro, mini, etc...)
What is SD card class?
Thank you very much
microSD compliant with SD2.0 Standard (aka microSDHC)
The biggest size available currently is 32GB.
I don't know if even more is possible with microSDHC or if bigger cards will only be possible with SD3.0 (aka SDXC) but that question is not relevant as you can't buy any greater then 32GB yet.
The Class of the SDCard is a measurement for guaranteed minimum speed in random read/write.
The Class does not provide any information about real-world speed or max speed.
For your mobile phone the class is a pretty useless criterion as you don't need any guaranteed minimum speeds but good overall speeds ESPECIALLY sequential.
The guaranteed minimum speed is important for HD Video Cameras for example where you write data all the time at a given speed (resolution).
thanks.
but I DO need class with high speed because I want to use Data2Ext...
Don't pick uSD card based on class !! class tels you MB/s for sequential write only... you need a card that is overall fast, I had 16GB class 10 Kingston and data2ext was just horrible!
Now I'm with class 4 Sandisk mobile ultra and it is in fact faster in every test I ran...
So read reviews before you buy
ye but that is exactly why im asking...
well then, I recommend sandisk mobile ultra as I have it and it is OK, there are probably faster cards...just see the small files read / write speeds in reviews those are of greatest importance
i purchased a kingston 8GB class 4 which crapped out. android kept reported sdcard unexpectedly removed. tried all sorts (formatting in windows, android, quick, long, etc).
RMA replacement did exactly the same, so i'm guessing kingston class 4's are best avoided.
If I recall correctly I have a 16GB microSDHC Class 4 card. After applying data2ext with this card, my Quadrant scores hit around 1500, which is crazy.
This is where I found my card: http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-16G...P06K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1298984123&sr=8-1
I personally recommend this card.
witch is better class 4 or class 6?
r69001 said:
Hello
I got my Legend about 2 months ago, and I have a big problem with storage space...
What is the biggest sized SD card the Legend can use?
What is the type of SD card (micro, mini, etc...)
What is SD card class?
Thank you very much
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Did you by any chance go to HTC's website to read about the phone? It has the full specs listed..
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
dangal said:
witch is better class 4 or class 6?
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class 6 is better , but class 10 is even better
I've got a Sandisk Ultra Mobile 16gb SDHC which works fine in the Legend. Make sure you format it with the phone to stop it being dismounted, well known issue and the fix
Ok,there are this microSD cards with HC added on their name(SDHC) so im not sure if the s3mini gonna accept them...i will link the names of the 3 microSD cards that i can afford to buy from my local store,can you please tell me if they will work
And whats up with that class stuff either,like class 4 or class 10..i get it that it is the write/read speed,but what class s3mini gonna support?
1.Secure Digital Micro Kingston 16GB SDHC class4 w/Adapter
2.Secure Digital Micro Kingston 32GB SDHC class4 w/Adapter
3.Secure Digital Micro Verbatim 16GB SDHC High Speed Class10
That 32GB looks tempting to me(the price is ok too, 22euro)
thx
funkyboj said:
Ok,there are this microSD cards with HC added on their name(SDHC) so im not sure if the s3mini gonna accept them...i will link the names of the 3 microSD cards that i can afford to buy from my local store,can you please tell me if they will work
And whats up with that class stuff either,like class 4 or class 10..i get it that it is the write/read speed,but what class s3mini gonna support?
1.Secure Digital Micro Kingston 16GB SDHC class4 w/Adapter
2.Secure Digital Micro Kingston 32GB SDHC class4 w/Adapter
3.Secure Digital Micro Verbatim 16GB SDHC High Speed Class10
That 32GB looks tempting to me(the price is ok too, 22euro)
thx
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I use 32Gb class10, working well. Class -meaning write/read speed. Higher class sd is expencive than lower class sd. But i can't say which one class sd is enough for general usage.
I got a Samsung 32GB class 10 Samsung from eBay for £19 delivered.
danum said:
I got a Samsung 32GB class 10 Samsung from eBay for £19 delivered.
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The 64GB card works pretty good and it's only less than $60USD on Amazon.
thank you guys..i'll buy the Kingston 32GB class 10 microSDHC for now...35euro in my country,but i'll get plenty of space for my 720p series to watch when im on road or seminars across the country (walking dead,supernatural,fringe )
i hit the thanks buttons to all of you ) cheers
blackknightavalon said:
The 64GB card works pretty good and it's only less than $60USD on Amazon.
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im jelly of you americans,you always get the cheapest hardware ) no heart feelings m8 :silly:
funkyboj said:
im jelly of you americans,you always get the cheapest hardware ) no heart feelings m8 :silly:
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Search for it. I'm sure you can get a deal.
Sent from Spaceball One.
I was reading this forum post which claimed that a class 4 card is actually faster than a class 10 card for Cyanogenmod on the microsd card. Is that true? I currently have the 64GB san disk class 10 card (the red/grey one) as my card. It does tend to lag a bit if i'm swiping from one home screen to another. Would a class 4 card give me smoother performance?
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=34988392&postcount=30
If it's a Sandisk class 10, it's probably fine.
What the problem is that Sandisk's class 4 cards often perform better than the class 10 cards from other manufactures like Patriot. I have a class 4 Sandisk and a class 10 Patriot and the Sandisk is superior at 4k performance. But the class 10 Sandisk is probably fine (assuming it's a real Sandisk and not a counterfeit).
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If it's a Sandisk class 10, it's probably fine.
What the problem is that Sandisk's class 4 cards often perform better than the class 10 cards from other manufactures like Patriot. I have a class 4 Sandisk and a class 10 Patriot and the Sandisk is superior at 4k performance. But the class 10 Sandisk is probably fine (assuming it's a real Sandisk and not a counterfeit).
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Thanks, oh you're Ravynmagi from that same thread eh? Hahaha
Class 10 cards are best for long r/w for large files or a video camera. Most of what the tablet or phones do are shorter r/w and a class 6 or 4 will do fine or even be superior. This is particularly true for cards that are used for part of the operating system. This info was gleaned from experience with Android, NativeSD roms. If you search nativesd + hd2 there much info.
Many of the class 10 labeled cards are mislabeled anyway. A name brand like Sandisk will be more quality tested and properly labeled.
Hello guys, this is my first post here. Instead of starting a new thread, I thought it'll be appropriate to post in a thread about sd cards. I'm planning to buy microsd cards for my new Nook HD+, which is on the way. Does UHS-1 micreosd cards work with Nook HD+? I want to dual boot with cynagen mod on sd card. Which class'll be the best for running android from the sdcard? Also I want to make a back up of my Nook HD+ stock version, what size card is enough for that?
The card that I have in mind is a Strontium 16GB UHS-1 MicroSDHC Card. In its product description it says "Compatible with SDHC and SDXC host devices; not compatible with standard SD-enabled devices/readers" and "Compliant with the new UHS-I specification for ultra-high speed interfaces for SD specifications. Can only be used in UHS-I mode in UHS-I compatible devices." (I can't post link since it's my first post)
I got confused after reading that highest class won't give optimal performance. I hope some one here will help me in this. Thank you.
mashac said:
Hello guys, this is my first post here. Instead of starting a new thread, I thought it'll be appropriate to post in a thread about sd cards. I'm planning to buy microsd cards for my new Nook HD+, which is on the way. Does UHS-1 micreosd cards work with Nook HD+? I want to dual boot with cynagen mod on sd card. Which class'll be the best for running android from the sdcard? Also I want to make a back up of my Nook HD+ stock version, what size card is enough for that?
The card that I have in mind is a Strontium 16GB UHS-1 MicroSDHC Card. In its product description it says "Compatible with SDHC and SDXC host devices; not compatible with standard SD-enabled devices/readers" and "Compliant with the new UHS-I specification for ultra-high speed interfaces for SD specifications. Can only be used in UHS-I mode in UHS-I compatible devices." (I can't post link since it's my first post)
I got confused after reading that highest class won't give optimal performance. I hope some one here will help me in this. Thank you.
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SanDisk class 4 are the best to use for everything on the HD/HD+. The device does not work reliably with faster cards.
You need about 1.5GB to do a stock backup, so a 2GB is enough.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
leapinlar said:
SanDisk class 4 are the best to use for everything on the HD/HD+. The device does not work reliably with faster cards.
You need about 1.5GB to do a stock backup, so a 2GB is enough.
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Thanks leapinlar for that quick reply. So, a 16 or 32GB class 4 sandisk card for the dual boot and another 2GB card for the stock backup is all I need. Thanks again.
The "class' rating is only a measure of large sequential write performance, as in using it for an HD video camera. The class rating has no bearing at all on random access speeds or small reads and writes. Many sandisk class 4's have faster small random read/write performance than many class 10 cards, but its worthwhile to look at benchmarks for a card you're looking at or a list of top cards for tablet/phone usage that keys on small random read/write performance for optimal performance.
In fact, the sd card market is loaded with class 10 cards that stink at pretty much every other measure than large sequential writes.
SD cards 16G and larger are only made as class 10 devices. Properly formatting the SD card will improve it's performance.
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SD cards 16G and larger are only made as class 10 devices. Properly formatting the SD card will improve it's performance.
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No they are not. Here is a 32GB class 4 SanDisk available http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC/SanDisk/SanDisk-32GB-Micro-SD-(SDHC)-Card---Class-4
artesea said:
No they are not. Here is a 32GB class 4 SanDisk available http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC/SanDisk/SanDisk-32GB-Micro-SD-(SDHC)-Card---Class-4
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To be more specific - SD cards 16G and greater are manufactured to meet class 10 standards. To get the most money from their products the production line is optimized to make the fastest and most expensive product. Products that miss the QC marks for "A" grade (class 10) will/should easily pass "B" grade (class 4) specifications. The class 10 data bus can run at faster speeds than a class 4. It can also
r u n s l o w e r, meeting fully the class 4 specifications. Often manufacturers will mark their perfectly good class 10 products as class 4 to fulfill market demands. Think making money.
Onageric said:
Often manufacturers will mark their perfectly good class 10 products as class 4 to fulfill market demands. Think making money.
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It's seems to be true. Bought "Exployd 4 class micro SD" and it's running at 10 class speed at read/write (always over 12Mb).
See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633 for extensive discussions of comparative performance of different vendor/model SD-cards. For the purpose of running ROMs, look out for cards with high throughput in randomized read/write access, not in sequential read/write access.
FWIW, I am using exclusively Sandisk class 4, having had terrible results (lots of Wait & Force-Close) with class 10 and 6 cards from a mix of vendors.
Best & Fastest Micro SD Card :
if you know any with Faster speeds Please do post links
Best -
SanDisk Extreme PRO microSDXC UHS-II Card 128gb
Read Speed: up to 275MB/s
Write Speed: up to 100MB/s
Lexar® Professional 1800x microSDHC™/microSDXC™ UHS-II cards 128gb
read transfer speed up to 1800x (270MB/s)1
Lexar® Professional 1000x microSDHC™/microSDXC™ UHS-II Cards 128gb
read transfer speed up to 1000x (150MB/s)¹
Good -
Samsung Micro SD PRO+ 128GB Memory Card w/ Adapter 128gb
Up to 95MB/s Read and 90MB/s Write speed with Class 10 and U3 compatibility
Lexar® High-Performance 633x microSDHC™/microSDXC™ UHS-I cards 128gb
transfer speed up to 633x (95MB/s)*
Delkin Micro SD Card 128gb
Read / Write Speeds up to 90 / 80MB/s*
SanDisk Ultra® micro SDHC™/micro SDXC™ UHS-I Card 200gb
Read Speed: up to 90MB/s
SanDisk Ultra® micro SDHC™/micro SDXC™ UHS-I Card for Cameras 128gb
Read Speed: up to 80MB/S1
Has anyone tested a UHS-II card in the S7?
geccco said:
Has anyone tested a UHS-II card in the S7?
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I'm wondering the same thing, I want to know if it's really worth it to get the SanDisk extreme pro.
It would be nice to have a real benchmarks for each cards inside the S7E as well.
These are already covered (complete with benchmarks in the phone itself) in the existing thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/accessories/suggestions-microsd-t3321569
Search 1st b4 post !
Why starting this thread, while there's already a thread about SD-cards started 24 feb 16?
You know, this forum has a SEARCH-function too, @ilordvader ?
Suggestions for microSD
There's already a thread for this guys
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/accessories/suggestions-microsd-t3321569