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i have had no problems before, i flashed a couple roms in it before, but in the end, i kept very lightly modded rom very close to OEM rom for the tilt that i got from here. all was well for months and months.. until now.
i noticed that the phone will lose signal. and not detect a sim card anymore. at first i thought it was sim. so i tried it on my other tilt (i have 2) and i determined that its the phone.
if i restart it, it works for about 1 min or less if im lucky.. then i have to to go comm. manager, turn off phone signal, and turn it back on, usually, that does the trick. but now, that wont even work anymore.
the only way to get the sim recognized again is if i slide the phone out, go to comm. manager, turn off phone and turn back on, and LEAVE the phone slided out. once i slide the phone back in, it will not detect the sim. ive tried diff. spl, different roms, and searched before i came back here.
ive had it for over a year, have broken the screen and messed up keyboard by closing hood of my car on it,
but ive fixed it. and that was long ago. maybe this new problem is because of this. if someone had similar problems, let me know what you did. or if anyone can point me into the next direction. i guess ill have to crack it open again.
I had a similiar issue where my phone would turn on ok, then lose signal and then get the no sim card error (dialer screen). What I ended up doing was taking a piece of tape and put it on the back of the sim card then slid it into the holder and locked it. (It was a thick metal tape, if you use scotch tape I recommend using a few pieces). Once I did that I havent had another problem with it. Its a pain to get the sim out of the phone because it ruins the tape but I would rather deal with that than not have my phone work correctly.
Let me know if that works for ya.
Jim
i see. so it seems that your problem was that the sim shifted out of place sometimes... i will try that. hope it works. its so odd that my sim card dissapears when i close my tilt
I just recently had a similar problem and I finally figured out it was a bad contact with the SIM card. you can either use the tape trick, or if you have a steady hand, take a thin object (such as a paper clip or glasses screwdriver) and very gently lift the contacts up underneath of where the sim card goes. they may have been pushed down due to abnormal pressure exerted on the back of your phone, I think that's what happened to mine.
thanks for your help. the sim contact issue was the first thing i suspected, AND tried. i used a needle. i raised the level of each of the 8 contacts making sure the sim will make contact with each pin. but the problem remains.
i will try this again. to double check. i will respond with the results
i tried pushing the pins up a little bit again, i still have the same problem
*but now i have an update, it seems that the sim card stops being detected right before i actually fully slide the phone back in. for examplle, before the slide-in tone is played, and before the screen tilts back.
i already took it apart for a look inside, everything seems fine. and i dnt really know wht to look for.
Hi,
was reading about ur issue, just tought on jumping into the wagon, I suspect it might be the flex cable that connects the sim to the motherboard, if there is such cable, i haven't opened my kaiser yet but my Pioneer car radio has this flex cable issue when the drive is closed the screen turns on and the whole radio but as soon as you press eject (the face will scroll and unveil the cd slot) the radio actually turns off and i have to move the face back to its original position in order to work. At the end I took the flex cable out and 1/4 of it was teared, in the end I had to order a new part
thanks so much for your help. i guess there is nothing left to do but to take it all apart. somewhat blindly. at least i know what to look for. bad cables, contacts... im clueless as to whether it can be a bad grounding issue? or a short. i dnt know. i guess i may be the first one to experience a problem like this on a tilt.
so i will do my best to get this problem resolved. and maybe include some pictures if it is intereting enough
my tilt totally stopped recognizing the sim.. it first happened when i dropped it and had to keep it open to keep contact.. then i was sitting with it open and tilted up, it fell and closed somehow and now the sim isnt there at all... i guess something is disconnected or whatever, im afraid to take it apart, but its either that or a paper weight.
New Sim
I had a similar problem. My sim card would disappear on occasion then one day I woke up and no phone. Just an annoying sim card not installed message. Checked the phone by putting in a known working sim card and it was fine. Called ATT for a new sim card and now my phone is working. Try a new SIM CARD.
For the original poster -- that fact that it works when the keyboard is in one position but not the other indicates that it is likely a bad flex cable.
Agreed
Its most likely the cable. I used a new SIM, the extra pressure trick, cleaned contact, etc on mine yesterday, but the problem remained.
I got a used Tilt from Craigsliist , reusing the SIM and case, and it works great.
i wonder if anyone has bought this item before and if it works? upon research, i think our problem comes from the sim card flex and ribbon:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-TyTN-II-P45...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories?hash=item2a05bd88c4
It definitely comes form that ...but the repair cost is more than the replacement cost..so why bother with repairing it?
Hey, I'm having the same problem, my phone just out of the blue after a year of use says no sim card. My card is fine in other phones, and no cards work in my phone. I tried the pressure thing and cleaning the pins, but no good. My next option will be a hard reset/ wipe the phone and see if that clears the problem. I'm not optimistic after reading the thread. Did any one have luck with one of those Kaiser Flex Sim Card Slot Repair Parts that loller90278 mentioned? If so, I would rather spend $16 to fix a phone that has worked well up till now, rather than spend $100 on an unknown used phone. Still I don't want to bother if it's not going to work.
Thanks
well well...i'm going to have to join this "club" of affected kaiser users
my kaiser just started misbehaving last night. i bought it brand new exactly 1 year and 11 months ago
i took good care of it, barely ever tilted the screen during my almost 2 years of use. the current behavior is that when the keyboard is closed, the sim is hardly ever detected (1 out of 10 times perhaps). when the keyboard is opened, the sim is fairly regularly detected (9 out of 10 times perhaps).
i am not going to bother with investigating the possibility of a software problem because of my observations. given all the threads i've read about this issue, i am convinced my sim flex cable is either loose and/or broken.
anyway, it seems the kaiser's flex cable is just not built to last much longer than 2 years. if i can have it repaired for up to around $50, i'll go for it...if not, HD2 here i come!
ASCIIker said:
well well...i'm going to have to join this "club" of affected kaiser users
my kaiser just started misbehaving last night. i bought it brand new exactly 1 year and 11 months ago
i took good care of it, barely ever tilted the screen during my almost 2 years of use. the current behavior is that when the keyboard is closed, the sim is hardly ever detected (1 out of 10 times perhaps). when the keyboard is opened, the sim is fairly regularly detected (9 out of 10 times perhaps).
i am not going to bother with investigating the possibility of a software problem because of my observations. given all the threads i've read about this issue, i am convinced my sim flex cable is either loose and/or broken.
anyway, it seems the kaiser's flex cable is just not built to last much longer than 2 years. if i can have it repaired for up to around $50, i'll go for it...if not, HD2 here i come!
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just wanted to follow up on my own post above.
i just got my kaiser back. its been repaired
the dude cannibalized the main flex cable and sim assembly from a tilt and transplanted it into my tytn2. BUT! there has been an interesting side effect...because the tilt does not have a front cam, my guess is that its flex cable is unable to carry the signal of the front cam in the tytn2. so now my front cam is no longer detected. the camera app shows no icon to switch to another camera. the icon is blank!
i figured i could either have a kaiser with sim problems or a working kaiser with no front cam. i chose to keep the flex cable from the tilt because there is no 3G in my region and i hardly ever used the front camera otherwise.
long story short, my kaiser is back in business!
Similar problem !!!
Hello mate, .,. the problem in you case is the connecting ribbon between the keyboard that holds the sim card beneath it and the screen. I recommend u to replace the ribbon that connects. Its around 40 USD and that should do the trick.
Cheers !!!!!
Ok guys, need some help here....
Got a HTC TyTN II.... Worked great for like 8-10 months, then started having issues with the screen.
Sometimes when brining it out of sleep, the colors are all jagged, and the screen is out of sync and staticky (kind of when you have a VGA monitor and you half pull the cable out of the connector)...
So I'm assuming its a problem with the ribbon cable coming loose (if thats how its connected).
Another thing too, the memory card slot doesn't work anymore. This just re-inserts the fact the ribbon cable or whatever for the front of the device is loose.
Does ANYONE know how to fix this? Unfortunately I tried to rip the phone appart myself and voided the warranty...
Anyone else have these problems?
Sometimes the screen works, sometimes I have to put it back to sleep, wait 5 minutes, and wiggle the front. hit the power button and it works. This has happened across 3 firmware updates so it's hardware for sure....
It does sound like a piece of hardware is loose. The fact that your mem card is not working further suggests this. I took apart my Tilt yesterday to replace the screen which no longer responded to touch, although it still worked with hardkeys. As part of the process I noticed the mem card slot was integral to the screen components. In other words, the screen and attached component, including the mem card slot is loose. For video as to how to pull apart your phone, go here. I have never done this before and this video worked beautifully. Also, search the forums for the HTC Service Manual and go through this page by page, step by step matching it against this video (if yo have dual screens even better) and you will come out fine. I did!
http://www.fonlogix.us/Video-Instructions_ep_34.html
You can buy replacement screens and the tools from the same website. Otherwise try eBay, which is what I did. Definitely get yourself a strong pry tool. The one I bought from eBay disintegrated in the first couple of minutes. Luckily there was just enough of tip of the pry tool for me to use brute force to pry open the case without damaging the phone.
thnx bud, ill be posting my results.
My milestone has led a pampered and then rough life of music gigs and festivals back and forth and decided to give up it's ghost (or give me ghost-touches if you will) due to a failing digitizer after a Dillinger Escape Plan gig (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyzQgysUOdU I'm right in the center of the mosh pit hehe).
I've since decided that I'd save a little more money and get a Galaxy Nexus, even if I'd very much prefer a Droid4 if only to have a proper QWERTY slider phone. They don't sell them here .
Anyway, being that I've had to continue using my POS (can you tell I'm pissed) phone, I decided to look for a way to disable the touch screen and see how feasible it is to control with only the keypad and a few touches.
Which led me to these 2 apps
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.argotronic.touchblocker
Screen Lock / disable touch Argotronic
I've had it set up so that I can "lock" the touchscreen via shaking the device, and unlocking the screen in the same way. Despite disabling the touchscreen, the notification pulldown still remains active, so you can still pull it down and quickly tap yourself to whatever via the Dpad if necessary.
Now, of course, what use is all this if you can't swipe to unlock your ****?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jiubang.goscreenlock
Go Locker
This, apart from still bringing up the stock lockscreen whenever you restart your phone (this goes away after 1-2 unlocks), solves that problem by allowing you to unlock your phone via long pressing the volume rocker.
I've found that it is entirely feasible to run the phone this way.
Apart from that, I bid this community a farewell as what little regular posting I used to do has already dropped tremendously the last few weeks, and much thanks to everyone who has helped me and the developers. <3 Kabaldan, get a galaxy nexus please! though I'd suppose your talents would be better suited to another poor locked up phone.
This community helped me get quickly familiar with Android, and in particular with a "difficult" phone, and I will never forget this. I'll probably get a new digitizer + keyboard and just put it on my desk as a... completely over powered clock. or something. Hey, when was the last time you said overpowered when talking about the Milestone?
Oh, and to solve the gig/festival problem so my Gnex doesn't meet a similar fate I'll be getting an Xperia Active as a secondary phone since that **** is hard as nails, waterproof, small (3") and reasonably priced.
EDIT: Reason I'm not just fixing up my Milestone to continue to use it is because I've always suspected that my mobile radio is a little faulty as I've always had trouble maintaining 3G+ connectivity/sync, I figure it'll just crap itself out eventually. It's also, and I'm sure most will agree, starting to become painfully slow hahah.
If you are willing to take a little risk, after taking out battery, SIM card and microSD card, worm up your phone by putting it in the oven over a towel or on a blow heater (yeah, for real) for a few minutes. Then, you will need to put it in a dry place (like drawer or something) during the night. Turn it up in the morning and it shall work.. it worked for me anyway, I was sure my phone was dead and the digitizer was damn busted.. it must have been moist from the inside, so I used to have very annoying ghost screen..
good luck mate..
oshosh said:
If you are willing to take a little risk, after taking out battery, SIM card and microSD card, worm up your phone by putting it in the oven over a towel or on a blow heater (yeah, for real) for a few minutes. Then, you will need to put it in a dry place (like drawer or something) during the night. Turn it up in the morning and it shall work.. it worked for me anyway, I was sure my phone was dead and the digitizer was damn busted.. it must have been moist from the inside, so I used to have very annoying ghost screen..
good luck mate..
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Hmm, I completely forgot about this!
I had done some drying with a hairdryer, I had originally noticed that the ghost-touches would get more severe if it spent an hour or two in my pocket, but completely forgot about trying it to dry it a different way. I'll put in a bag of rice tonight!
Thanks
Putting your device in the oven could really fix your problem. I've heard of this before in a different context (fixing gaming consoles..). What it does is fixing soldering points by melting them. Connections between cables and the board are then (hopefully) fixed again.
There are several methods including the oven, microwave, hairdryer and so on..
moe6 thank you for you post
will try the screen lock app
i have no need for the go locker, with cm7 you can unlock the phone by sliding the keyboard.
i have two questions
how can i answer/end a call easily without the screen?
is there any way to have a back button routed to the key board?
i use "search+z" to start(swich) back to my launcher
i guess i will try the oven trick but i really concerned if i will break the milestone completely. should survive a few week.
that poor old thing
UnitedOceanic said:
moe6 thank you for you post
will try the screen lock app
i have no need for the go locker, with cm7 you can unlock the phone by sliding the keyboard.
i have two questions
how can i answer/end a call easily without the screen?
is there any way to have a back button routed to the key board?
i use "search+z" to start(swich) back to my launcher
i guess i will try the oven trick but i really concerned if i will break the milestone completely. should survive a few week.
that poor old thing
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Good thing you thanked the top post, I would've missed your post otherwise .
Yeah I know you can unlock via keyboard slide but I have my phone caseless and its always in my pocket and it tends to slide open just enough to unlock it occasionally .
I answered calls by using the d-pad on the keyboard. Just tap it once and it should begin highlighting buttons on the screen, press d-pad center button to select. Unfortunately for you, my back button did still work as the "dead" part of my digitizer was on the right side of the phone where Home and Search is.
I think the drying tricks help mostly with ghost touches since I'd assume that the ghost touches are from small amounts of water/sweat/liquid. After drying it with a hairdryer, short bit in the oven and then stuck in a bag of rice, my ghost touches stopped 80% from what they were before. The digitizer is still dead on one side though.
Now all I need is a Droid/Milestone dock and a new digitizer so my old Milestone can live its life out as a very complicated desk clock
You can actually make it work real good without much issue. You'll need a CM ROM so you can enable the Menu to unlock option and then use v6 Supercharger Bulletproof Apps to lock the screen disabling software into memory so it doesn't crash and it doesn't run bad at all. Also, there is a really good app to remote control your phone from your computer so if you have adb and a data cable, you can get it working good.
Do you know what that app is called?
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Do you know what that app is called?
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I personally use AirDroid, it's amazing.
So here's my situation
While crawling across a rapids I slipped, dipped my phone in the river, and thought all was lost.
I pulled the case and back shell off immediately and it seemed all was well once I dried the G2 with rice for 12 hours. BUT, the sim card no longer would read. After getting back home from my trip I pulled the entire phone apart and discovered the reader looked a bit rough and the slot was probably shot from the water hitting it. SIM card works fine in my S3 mind you.
So where I am at is I have a new SIM reader on its way here to install in a day or so which I THINK should solve the issue. Im curious if anyone else has installed this component before?. Appears to be 6 solder points that hold it in and thats about it. Hell of a thing that the entire phone works flawlessly but the SIM reader shat itself. Never seen anything like it.
Any and all input or ideas are welcome.
Cheers
Mrdobin said:
So here's my situation
While crawling across a rapids I slipped, dipped my phone in the river, and thought all was lost.
I pulled the case and back shell off immediately and it seemed all was well once I dried the G2 with rice for 12 hours. BUT, the sim card no longer would read. After getting back home from my trip I pulled the entire phone apart and discovered the reader looked a bit rough and the slot was probably shot from the water hitting it. SIM card works fine in my S3 mind you.
So where I am at is I have a new SIM reader on its way here to install in a day or so which I THINK should solve the issue. Im curious if anyone else has installed this component before?. Appears to be 6 solder points that hold it in and thats about it. Hell of a thing that the entire phone works flawlessly but the SIM reader shat itself. Never seen anything like it.
Any and all input or ideas are welcome.
Cheers
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Did you end up installing it?
My sim reader always gave out and I'm thinking of ordering the part but haven't been able to find a tutorial for the replacement.
I too would like to know the result...
Conclusion
rustypie said:
I too would like to know the result...
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I did end up installing the tray. However, as I removed the contacts that were placed on the board itself and so when I soldered in the new tray there was two points which would not adhere. I ended up replacing the whole board in order to remedy things.
But, most importantly I confirm the board install isnt too hard and will work if you just make sure to properly remove the old tray and dont just pry it off. The prying will rip the contacts from the board and then the solder wont hold.
As we all know, the phone is pretty darn well put together and surprisingly durable. But, unfortunately, it is not invincible. About a month and a half ago I cracked my screen. The phone had a case, but it wasn't anything hefty (the HTC Double Dip case). The phone was still completely usable, but I like the phone and wanted to keep it nice so I decided to replace the screen. I ordered the screen + framework assembly and it was about $55. In the past when I have replaced screens on a few iPhones and an ASUS tablet the parts were quite a bit cheaper, but whatever. My phone is the black model, but I decided to try something different and ordered the new part with red speaker grills. Most guides and such said that the M7 is a pretty hard phone to repair, but I have worked on a couple other phones before, so I gave it a go. After many, many hours of carefully prying apart the phone and transplanting the logic boards to the new screen framework I put it all back together and powered it up. To my surprise the phone powered up and the screen worked fine. (And let me tell you the red and black looks damn good). The first thing I noticed was that vibration didn't work. A bit annoying, but the phone looked good enough that I could get past that. Next I tested the speakers and noticed that at full volume the speakers sound a little bit messed up. Again, a little annoying, but I'm not a professional so I wasn't overly disappointed. Then came the real problem...
THE REAL PROBLEM:
When I put the SIM card in the phone didn't detect it. After a reboot it still didn't detect it. After a factory restore it still didn't detect it. Perhaps the ribbon cable connecting the SIM reader to the board was not all the way secured? After how hard it was to take the phone apart the first time I was not a fan of the idea of doing it again. But alas, the next day I opened the phone back up super carefully so not to damage the new parts. It was thankfully a little bit easier the second time. I made sure the SIM reader was all the way connected, but the phone still wouldn't read the SIM. I pulled the old SIM reader out from the old screen framework assembly and plugged it into the board, but the SIM was still not detected, indicating that the new screen did not come with a bad SIM reader. Has this problem happened to anyone else? What steps should I take? I now have really nice looking M7 that is essentially useless.
So does anyone have input on this?
Pr.TOSHIBA said:
So does anyone have input on this?
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Same thing happened to me. Also swapped out the old reader without any luck.... Any update on this?
Does it detect it at all? Like ask for the pin code if you use that?
Do you have to disconnect the battery when replacing the screen on this phone? I know on some phones I repaired I had to manually set the current time and date (resets to year 1970 or something like that if you disconnect the battery) to get a signal.
Otherwise I have no idea