Apple has patented the look of the tablet, and has already won an injunction in Germany:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...-oems-from-building-tablets/14175?tag=nl.e550
Apple has successfully blocked one tablet, and their so-called patent in Spain (a crude drawing) could ban all tablets other than Apple there.
America, boycott Apple if you have a brain (or even if only half). This is what this country fought against, and all you Apple fans, get your frickin heads out!!
Apple is going for technological dictatorship at the hands of an egotistical, psychotic, megalomaniac who is pulling no stops at dirty patent tricks across the globe.
As if the global economy wasn't bad enough, Jobs has to get his grubby little fingers into the pot in a grab to try to take over and crush the entire tech industry and progress across the globe.
F Apple. F Jobs.
I will NEVER EVER buy an Apple product, as it goes against everything this country stands for. I could give a rat's patootie if it is an American company... That just makes it worse!
Well said. I too support your ideas.
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I will NEVER EVER buy an Apple product, as it goes against everything this country stands for. I could give a rat's patootie if it is an American company... That just makes it worse!
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I agree with everything you're saying except for one thing...it's exactly what this country now stands for.
But I have never bought an Apple product and I never will.
It seems like every day, A new Apple story pops up with Apple attempting to shut down world-wide industries.
I am wondering when the PC will come under fire? If the legal system throughout the world and this nation is this broken, will they find a way to ban PC selection throughout the world? Their server products have been a flop since their inception, will they go after Dell next?
Maybe I better patent this idea before Apple gets it's hands on it:
A box, with a power button on it, that has microprocessors on the inside in some sort of a configuration that allows computations to be performed, and from applied pressure from a body appendage to said button can cause power to be applied to the box resulting in a display (with potential words or graphical images on it) to activate as a result of the box interaction.
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Quick, someone draw a box with a circle on the center, and lets get this submitted to the patent office! Picture plus vague description = PROFIT!
Apple isn't doing anything differently from any other company in the world. They all guard their interests as best they can. The thing with Apple is, what they do is highly publicized. But they are far from being the number one litigator. And the attention they get is because they are an American technology company that is doing business better than the Asian businesses. That alone earns Apple a lot of hate. I will say this, though, the Asian businesses are masters at creating hate.
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Apple isn't doing anything differently from any other company in the world. They all guard their interests as best they can. The thing with Apple is, what they do is highly publicized. But they are far from being the number one litigator. And the attention they get is because they are an American technology company that is doing business better than the Asian businesses. That alone earns Apple a lot of hate. I will say this, though, the Asian businesses are masters at creating hate.
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There's no interest here, and the reason it is highly publicized is because Apple was successful in the first stage of getting every tablet removed from every country in the EU by producing a picture of an Etch-A-Sketch without knobs, and they are ACTUALLY WINNING!!
Companies protect I.P.. Apple is out to play the system for global domination using the dirtiest of patent tricks I have ever seen (aside from dirty IP companies that have been patenting everything under the sun for the past decade, but unlike Apple, they normally get shut down eventually). The worst part about this is that Jobs has made no bones about the fact that he has no intentions of licensing out his patents. His intentions are CLEARLY to eliminate the global market.
There's a big difference between protecting one's company intellectual property, and just being downright OBVIOUS about invalid and anti-competitive patents.
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Apple isn't doing anything differently from any other company in the world.
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Baseless claim and completely untrue.
too right!
I completely agree and am boycotting apple products and no longer using iTunes.
Join this Facebook group if you agree it needs as many members as it can get!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Apple/350260026008?sk=info
If they are the stupidest company in the world, then why are they number 1 in the public stock market? Why are they still getting so many sales? Why are they beating every other device out there? They know how to design and make a fast and reliable product. No other company can do what Apple can. Just because Apple is better, doesn't mean you have to hate on them.
I guess we will have to import the Tabs from Holland. I guess Amsterdam will now have one more attraction going hand in hand with smoking pot ))). Can you believe this? People will be actually "illegally" smuggling GALAXY TABS to the rest of European Union .. Fu..k APPLE
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Just because Apple is better, doesn't mean you have to hate on them.
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Apple should take your advice.
Ill reword it slightly and direct it at Apple:
"Just because other products are threatening you in the market and you can't compete doesn't mean you should sue"
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If they are the stupidest company in the world, then why are they number 1 in the public stock market? Why are they still getting so many sales? Why are they beating every other device out there? They know how to design and make a fast and reliable product. No other company can do what Apple can. Just because Apple is better, doesn't mean you have to hate on them.
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Apple isn't better. People are stupid. Stupid people think that if you pay more for the same thing it makes you cool. Stupid people want to be cool, probably in hopes that other stupid people won't think they are stupid.
Apple makes nice stuff. They do. But they charge 2x too much, at least for their computers. They parlay this into a "designer" brand (Like Calvin Klein or Hilfiger etc.) and then EVERYONE "has" to have their stuff. Doesnt matter if it costs more or less or whatever. Sheeple. Listen to the bleat!
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If they are the stupidest company in the world, then why are they number 1 in the public stock market? Why are they still getting so many sales? Why are they beating every other device out there? They know how to design and make a fast and reliable product. No other company can do what Apple can. Just because Apple is better, doesn't mean you have to hate on them.
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Exactly.
But you have to understand that the production of "hate" for a successful business is the Asian companies way of competing. Instead of litigating, which they have no excuse to do because they infringe the products of non-national companies, they resort to inflammatory tactics. It takes a lot longer and is very unreliable, though.
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Exactly.
But you have to understand that the production of "hate" for a successful business is the Asian companies way of competing. Instead of litigating, which they have no excuse to do because they infringe the products of non-national companies, they resort to inflammatory tactics. It takes a lot longer and is very unreliable, though.
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You are completely bonkers, aren't ya, guy?
majorpay said:
You are completely bonkers, aren't ya, guy?
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No, I think that gives him too much credit.
Wtf at that patent
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No, I think that gives him too much credit.
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He had a thread last night that virtually equated Google to the Jesus of technology. I can't find it now.
...Weird how this was moved. I know it's not relating to "phones," but XDA has discussions on tablets as well as phones, right?
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I completely agree and am boycotting apple products and no longer using iTunes.
Join this Facebook group if you agree it needs as many members as it can get!
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United vs the fruit
As a Mod:
Normally all fruit company threads end badly, hope this one can be the exception, let´s try to keep on topic (even if off topic).
As a regular member:
I believe in fare competition but what is doing that fruit is not fare, it deserves all my hate
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As a Mod:
Normally all fruit company threads end badly, hope this one can be the exception, let´s try to keep on topic (even if off topic).
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I believe in fare competition but what is doing that fruit is not fare, it deserves all my hate
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They do seem to ignite an almost religious debate; however, Apple is deserving of a strong message.
I had once contemplated purchasing an iPad. I contemplate no longer...
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In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad
buying any of those products are just making more people suffer
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In China, Human Costs Are Built Into an iPad
buying any of those products are just making more people suffer
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Right. I will never own an Apple product, because this has been going on a long time with them. Now I know other companies outsource the same way. But Apple is the leader. Apple has the money to manufacture somewhere else, but they would rather see $97,000,000,000.00 in the bank than see people treated well. It's truly disgusting. It's also disgusting that people pay a premium for those devices. Those same people that buy inferior apple products have the money to search out something that is priced similar to apple products that both do more, and are made in a country with ethics and standards!!!
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Apple has the money to manufacture somewhere else, but they would rather see $97,000,000,000.00 in the bank than see people treated well. It's truly disgusting. It's also disgusting that people pay a premium for those devices. Those same people that buy inferior apple products have the money to search out something that is priced similar to apple products that both do more, and are made in a country with ethics and standards!!!
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If your boycotting apple what about sony microsoft nintendo toshiba etc? They use the exact same people, foxconn, but how many people would give up their games consoles or high def tvs etc?
Comments like these where only apple is singled out are simply biased and unfair because ALL those using these people are equally wrong.
I don't like apple at all but I think ignoring the other companies involved, including some android phone makers such as sony ericsson, is letting them off and letting one company a lot of us dislike be our mythical evil bad guy when in reality they are all as bad as each other.
Dave
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If your boycotting apple what about sony microsoft nintendo toshiba etc? They use the exact same people, foxconn, but how many people would give up their games consoles or high def tvs etc?
Comments like these where only apple is singled out are simply biased and unfair because ALL those using these people are equally wrong.
I don't like apple at all but I think ignoring the other companies involved, including some android phone makers such as sony ericsson, is letting them off and letting one company a lot of us dislike be our mythical evil bad guy when in reality they are all as bad as each other.
Dave
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This is what I call a fair judgement.
You can't blame apple as a company.
Foxconn is the one mistreating its people. And apple uses foxconn because it is cheap.
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i don't like nor own Microsoft products, i go Linux
i don't own any consoles, the only console i ever had was the Intellivision, which doesn't even exist anymore, except as Emulators
for my games fix i got the PC/Android/Web games
phones i'll only buy Korea made original Samsung products
only the Foxconn China factories have poor human rights, the other ones in other countries follow adequate guidelines, you can blame that in the lack of China's own respect for humans quality of living
i don't like sony devices, they don't live up to my expectations, now even Nokia fell into that category after joining with Microsoft
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I don't like apple at all but I think ignoring the other companies involved, including some android phone makers such as sony ericsson, is letting them off and letting one company a lot of us dislike be our mythical evil bad guy when in reality they are all as bad as each other.
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there's actually a facebook boycotting club for foxconn, but no clue what they are saying since most of the stuff on the wall is not in english
they are overpriced
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"yet, another reason why you should not buy iPhones, iPads, other mobile phones, Playstation, Nintendo products, computers and let's not forget everything we wear on our bodies."
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i don't like nor own Microsoft products, i go Linux
i don't own any consoles, the only console i ever had was the Intellivision, which doesn't even exist anymore, except as Emulators
for my games fix i got the PC/Android/Web games
phones i'll only buy Korea made original Samsung products
only the Foxconn China factories have poor human rights, the other ones in other countries follow adequate guidelines, you can blame that in the lack of China's own respect for humans quality of living
i don't like sony devices, they don't live up to my expectations, now even Nokia fell into that category after joining with Microsoft
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I wasn't intending my reply to be meant personally about you, just the argument in general that some people make of only apple being the one responsible, which was what I thought you were saying, so apologies if it was taken the wrong way.
As for Samsung, foxconn assemble some of their phones too, and have done since about 2008 / 2009, so there is no way to know if a particular samsung model is a foxconn one or not unfortunately.
Foxconns android customers include Asus, Lenovo, Motorola, Samsung and Sony Ericsson which I mention simply because as an Android fan I worry when its only apple people notice doing these as I think they are all as bad as each other, and I'm in no way trying to pick on anyone using Foxconn products as I myself have a Sony product and an Asus, and they are very good, but they could well have been produced by the same people.
The problem is that many companies outsource to the cheapest source which will always be one where workers are paid a pittance and their rights are unimportant because the more rights a worker has, and the better their wages etcetera, the higher the cost of production becomes which is why big companies like apple, microsoft and sony etcetera won't build them in say America or Europe.
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If your boycotting apple what about sony microsoft nintendo toshiba etc? They use the exact same people, foxconn, but how many people would give up their games consoles or high def tvs etc?
Comments like these where only apple is singled out are simply biased and unfair because ALL those using these people are equally wrong.
I don't like apple at all but I think ignoring the other companies involved, including some android phone makers such as sony ericsson, is letting them off and letting one company a lot of us dislike be our mythical evil bad guy when in reality they are all as bad as each other.
Dave
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I honestly don't own anything made, that I know of, in a foxcon factory. The only exception might be this phone, but to be honest, all my other htc phones were not from China. My wife's nokia is from Mexico. And so we're her previous blackberries. My computers are gateways from 2005. And I don't own a tv or video recorder made in the last decade. Let's see. My DVR is made in Mexico, and my Atari jaguar is made in USA can you believe it? My pioneer receiver is Indonesia. My hand tools are all made in USA, and I buy DeWalt 18v cordless tools because they are the only ones not made in China, they are made in Mexico, and their batteries are made in Japan.My work cloths I usually get at a thrift store, so where they are made is mostly irrelevant, but my work boots are Redwings, and I make sure they are the ones made in the USA. My tennis shoes are new balance, also made in the usa.So I actually am boycotting them all. I'm so glad I did not get an xbox360 when I wanted one now that I know they are made in a foxconn factory. I know there are things you can't help buying that are made there, but you can at least try.
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masondoctorjt said:
I honestly don't own anything made, that I know of, in a foxcon factory. The only exception might be this phone, but to be honest, all my other htc phones were not from China. My wife's nokia is from Mexico. And so we're her previous blackberries. My computers are gateways from 2005. And I don't own a tv or video recorder made in the last decade. Let's see. My DVR is made in Mexico, and my Atari jaguar is made in USA can you believe it? My pioneer receiver is Indonesia. My hand tools are all made in USA, and I buy DeWalt 18v cordless tools because they are the only ones not made in China, they are made in Mexico, and their batteries are made in Japan.My work cloths I usually get at a thrift store, so where they are made is mostly irrelevant, but my work boots are Redwings, and I make sure they are the ones made in the USA. My tennis shoes are new balance, also made in the usa.So I actually am boycotting them all. I'm so glad I did not get an xbox360 when I wanted one now that I know they are made in a foxconn factory. I know there are things you can't help buying that are made there, but you can at least try.
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why? do you believe that foxconn is the only company that does that? how are you so sure that in such big factories all over the world it doesnt happen? ever been there?
the only way to be sure that you arent taking advantage of anyone is to do it yourself, but i dont see you making your own motherboard, car or clothes...
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If your boycotting apple what about sony microsoft nintendo toshiba etc? They use the exact same people, foxconn, but how many people would give up their games consoles or high def tvs etc?
Comments like these where only apple is singled out are simply biased and unfair because ALL those using these people are equally wrong.
I don't like apple at all but I think ignoring the other companies involved, including some android phone makers such as sony ericsson, is letting them off and letting one company a lot of us dislike be our mythical evil bad guy when in reality they are all as bad as each other.
Dave
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Eh, Microsoft is largely a software company, and 360 plants actually have outstanding work conditions.
SO MANY things are made in China that you could use that argument for almost anything.
The real argument is that iOS is restricting, closed source and steals allot of their ideas from other OS and companies. It's the distortion field that makes everyone believe their implementation is cool. Also, iOS is dumbed down for the masses and it's pretty (the only slightly,redeeming quality IMHO).
Not using Apple devices because they are made in China is a superfluous reason. There are MANY better reasons,not to use/buy (from) Apple (devices)
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Welcome to overpopulation and under-education. Sad, but true fact is that for most of those "poor" workers, its pennies at those factories or starvation (and US pennies, are basically full chinese dollars, that buy food and clothing and pay the rent, even if you live in a box).
Easy for you guys to talk the talk, but you wouldn't survive an hour that those people do 24/7. And let me get to the real kicker- you wouldn't even dare to care to try losing the comfort of your own shoes, let alone home or anything more significant than that. Just be happy where you ended up in the pyramid and if you make it rich, try to help those masses.
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why? do you believe that foxconn is the only company that does that? how are you so sure that in such big factories all over the world it doesnt happen? ever been there?
the only way to be sure that you arent taking advantage of anyone is to do it yourself, but i dont see you making your own motherboard, car or clothes...
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That's why I said try. If you buy from places that have some form of regulation, than at least you are trying. Sounds like you are saying, "well I don't know for sure, so I'm not even going to try" well to each his own, but at least I feel better for trying, even though I might not have as much money in my pocket because of it.
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Eh, Microsoft is largely a software company, and 360 plants actually have outstanding work conditions.
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If you read news reports microsoft specifically have been singled out in some. For example http://m.kotaku.com/5875359/xbox-fa...regular-production-adjustments-says-microsoft
360 plants from foxconn are not outstanding at all and if they had such conditions you would not have had ten suicides two years ago nor the recent suicide threats by people building the xbox.
Maybe you believe ms are great employers outside america but they are not.
Dave
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In talking about the ruling for Apple against HTC (thread was closed), there was a statement made to the effect that Steve Job's mission was to destroy Android...and it was questioned. Yes he said it. Its in Biography Book
~Steve Jobs said:
"I will spend my last dying breath if I need to, and I will spend every penny of Apple's $40 billion in the bank, to right this wrong, I'm going to destroy Android, because it's a stolen product. I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this."
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On Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Steve-Jobs-Walter-Isaacson/dp/1451648537
Nearly every tech blog covered this quote as soon as the book was released. It's controversial and sure to stir up arguments. To be honest, I think the quote is misleading and is taken out of context.
If you read the rest of his bio, it mentions that Steve lives in his own reality distortion field.
There are 2 sides to this. On the positive side, he was able to will his product designs into existence. Eg, when he asked Woz to come up with a game within a few days, Woz said that it was impossible and that it would take at least weeks. Steve insisted it was possible and an inspired Woz achieved the unthinkable.
On the negative side, he chose to simply not acknowledge anything that he didn't like. A perfect example would be his own illness. He delayed the required medical treatment because he thought that his own treatment plan would work (despite going against medical advice). If he wasn't that stubborn, he would probably still be here today.
It could very well be that he thinks Android is a stolen product. But that's just his own distorted mindset.
I know the context of the quote...wont get into that. Just answering a question about if he actually said that....
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Rolling my eyes,
To Steve, anything with with a rectangular shape and a touch screen is stolen from Apple. Their lawsuits are proof of that.
Hahaha
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and Apple still got defeated.... LOL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22279510
mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/18/2808281/apple-investigate-Motorola-eu-frand-abuse
Apple yet again have asked the eu to start another antitrust investigation into another android rival. This time its against Motorola.
Is this apples new tactic...when you sue and lose, get the eu to do your dirty work for you?
Seems apple have really sunk to a new low.
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It's complete bulls*** because android is taking over almost 80% of the market for mobile phone sales by the end of this year. They're trying to do anything to slow down the process but they can't stop android no matter what they do. They go after the dumb corporations who don't have that many android builds, I don't see anyone going after Samsung until just recently over the Nexus... It's so ridiculous because Apple is losing money over these sales.. then more money over court? The only reason why Apple, IMO, is doing the suing is because they want to say "Hey you do know Apple still exists right?"
Apple OS is lightyears from Android in my opinion in the simple fact that the community creates builds and anyone with almost no knowledge can learn and become a developer... Whereas Apple also expects $100 for an app? Just... give up.. jeez. I hate Apple. They only corner the App marketplace sales.
Unfortunately, when you have as much money as Apple, it begins to be cheaper to fight rivals in the courts rather than in the marketplace.
money.cnn.com/2012/01/24/technology/apple_earnings/index.htm
It makes manufacturers nervous that their phone will be blocked from sale, customers nervous that they wont' be able to get support, and which veers them to other offerings (like an iphone coincidentally). Apple will need to feel public backlash and a big drop in sales before they will stop using this tactic.
It also doesn't help that someone keeps issuing apple these ridiculous patents.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/02/nokia-claims-nexus-7-treads-on-its-wifi-patents/
Let's hope this doesn't cause any delays eh?
Hahaha
Nokia trying to be relevant.
That's adorable.
lol this is brilliant, Google should ban Nokia as well as apple from YouTube and Google, funny how all these patents suddenly are used when they might loose customers cause there products might not be as good.
Unlike Apple, Nokia is not out to destroy their competitors. I think they will be happy with royalties.
Everybody wants a piece of the Google pie.
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Nokia claims Nexus 7 treads on its WiFi patents, wants a little dough for that Jelly Bean
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/02/nokia-claims-nexus-7-treads-on-its-wifi-patents/
Let's hope this doesn't cause any delays eh?
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Nokia is still around? They used to make good phones and then they teamed up with certain company in Redmond. Still cannot digest they didn't chose Android
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Nokia is still around? They used to make good phones and then they teamed up with certain company in Redmond. Still cannot digest they didn't chose Android
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Has anyone actually cared about Nokia since the days when everyone and their granddad had a 3390? haha
Everyone is paying royalties to Nokia, even Apple. This time Google is bad boy, they will have to pay.
What exactly are the "patents" Google's using, anyway? The article never mentions the actual patents.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with getting money for legitimate patents, which these are likely to be (patenting an actual invention, like a wifi component, as opposed to mere ideas like so many of Apple's "patents"). And in fact, shame on Google and ASUS if they didn't dot all the i's and cross all the t's here.
Not a big deal, though, because they'll just agree to reasonable royalties and move on. As some have mentioned, that's perfectly reasonable and how it should work in general. It's also why I'm not nearly as bothered by Microsoft's approach, which has been to get licensing fees from Android makers and otherwise get out of the way.
Title says it all. What do you think? Should I get rid of my Mate 10? What information is being taken? Are there ways to mitigate eavesdropping or security breaches?
http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/14/technology/huawei-intelligence-chiefs/index.html
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Title says it all. What do you think? Should I get rid of my Mate 10? What information is being taken? Are there ways to mitigate eavesdropping or security breaches?
http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/14/technology/huawei-intelligence-chiefs/index.html
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They have any proves, i don't see any?! Personally, i don't care what they say, is like thiefs shouting on thiefs! [emoji16]
Pretoriano80 said:
They have any proves, i don't see any?! Personally, i don't care what they say, is like thiefs shouting on thiefs! [emoji16]
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Trump told them so it must be true :angel:
It's U.S protectionism .. Huawei handsets and infrastructure equipment are everywhere (except in the U.S.), and to think the company would risk losing it all by spying, really? Why hasn't there been any proof of these allegations? It truly is BS and leaves the American market relegated to Apple, Samsung, and remaining few. And the hypocrisy, where are iPhones manufactured .. hint, it's not in the U.S.
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And the hypocrisy, where are iPhones manufactured .. hint, it's not in the U.S
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What?! You mean they're not actually made in California?!?!?!
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What?! You mean they're not actually made in California?!?!?!
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Yeah, in Califoxxnia! [emoji23]
What makes you think you phones are not breached by CIA already ?
From point of security breach and eaves dropping, its all the same. However if your interest is in giving the US intelligence an advantage by having a better hand at breaching than the Chinese government, than maybe you can stop buying Chinese phones.
Same with trade wars, if your interest is in giving US an advantage in trade wars than so be it. As a non-American, i have no such trade war concerns.
I used to say I have nothing to hide. Now I say I have nothing left to hide!
I just happen to find this which makes me worry.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/...l?smid=nytcore-ipad-share&smprod=nytcore-ipad
I also remember folks complaining, in a Mate 9 thread on XDA, about the app WPS Office perhaps providing a back door.
Everybody collects data on you. Seems like more aggressive advertising now due to google.
Data collection probably not limited to shopping interests.
Also very worried about backdoors on hardware.
It seems hopeless.
Don't get me wrong. I love My Mate 10.
Would just like a balance between security and privacy.
It would be good for the U.S government to provide PROOF, EVIDENCE and not only conjecture.
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It would be good for the U.S government to provide PROOF, EVIDENCE and not only conjecture.
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Yes, that would be good. They claim there is evidence of past breaches but chances are many would probably not believe it anyway. Best is to take steps to improve own security.
I think nearly all, if not absolutely all, cell phones are manufactured/assembled in China... not to mention nearly all the parts no matter who the "maker" is are made in China also. Doesn't matter if their headquarters are located somewhere else. I have had my Mate 10 (non-pro) for a few days now and it is quite possibly the best phone I have ever owned. My backup phone is a ZTE Axon 7 which was possibly the best right before the Mate. So I guess the Chinese have been reading my email's and text messages for years now. If you think this is only happening (if it even is) on Chinese Owned company phones then you are as delusional as Trump, and that boggles the mind!
Wow, such paranoia. So you're all happy to be spied on by your own government but get tin hat crazy when agencies tell you to not use Chinese phones? Seriously? As previous poster said, where do you think most off your devices are made anyway? Sheesh
When the N.K. "gonna nuke us anytime now" propaganda doesn't work, start blaming Russia.
When blaming Russia doesn't work, blame Kaspersky.
When Kaspersky doesn't work, tell the people to not buy Huawei or Xaiomi etc. devices.
It's gonna be hard to drop Huawei's telecom equipment since a lot of network infrastructure uses their equipment these days. Funny innit?
There probably having trouble finding a back door to Huawei and ZTE phones. Besides, FBI, CIA etc are as subtle as a cockroach on a white rug. Whatever they don't want you to buy, run quick and buy it!
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Was there in the past - 2015/2016 not something similar with the gay phones where the FBI could not crack them and get access to and asked the "fruit company" to provide the software to get access to locked/encrypted phones. They used the excuse that it was important that they had the ability to crack phones used by terrorists...
I believe it could be well that they struggle to find a backdoor on Huawei and ZTE produced phones.
I am sure that the governments have the ability to spy on everybody and if its not the government it will be google or microshaft...
The alternatives are the apple product programmed to slow down as the battery ages and or Samsung products which over time will slow down and or fail due to a mainboard failure, and here I have experience out of 1st hand on my old S3, Note 2 and Note 4 where the mainboards failed due to a eMMC chip failure. Apple and Samsung can keep their crap phones imo.
Yea because the NSA etc can't get in them, no back door etc
First of all, the news shows that the agencies are not really worried about your privacy as a citizen, rather that those phones may be a passive method to learn about telecom infrastructure of the U.S, or even possibly use them as an attack gateway in case of a cyber WWIII.
Now about your privacy:
Huawei, Samsung, HTC, LG, ZTE whatever, all are running Android. Depends on whom you're concerned that will breach your privacy, if you're concerned about the governments, your privacy was breached with the very first smartphone you bought, why? Well, Android is Google and they obviously have backdoors for themselves at least and Google does cooperate with the NSA when they need, so does Apple, so that's one thing. The other concern may specifically be "foreign" governments, which yeah it's possible given how China uses for example WeChat as a way to spy on it's citizens
In short, Huawei or Samsung or Apple, they all are cooperating with some government (May not be directly but through Google).
MONEY!!!!
i would think its more of a breach in the green area, its all about money.....
there is only one thing going on here and that is America being scarred of Chinese corporations...shengzen will overtook every pice of techonlogy in the future. ...and saying that some company is spying on them while "they"(American goverment) does exactly that HAHAHAHA.... what a ****ty claim for them with no proof or whatsoever...well thats how human behaves when gets scarred...u throw every amunition u have at there faces and whis for the best LMAO peace guys
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i would think its more of a breach in the green area, its all about money.....
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Totall agree, and anyone who believes otherwise should have their head examined. Qualcomm, Apple, Samsung .. they all have a lot to lose by allowing Huawei/ZTE access to the U.S consumer market. AT&T cancelling the launch of the M10Pro one day before CES stinks of Government coercion, which I'm sure was induced by lobby pressure.