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Nook Color vs. Galaxy Tab?

Has anyone spent a good amount of time with both a rooted Nook Color and the Galaxy Tab who can write some impressions on how they compare in regular use? The $350 difference is dictating that I go Nook Color, but it's always fun to hear comparisons before buying...

BertoJG said:
I have the NC, Archos 70, and VS tablet right now, and the color is by far the best screen.
The VS device lasted all of an hour before I decided that I am returning it tomorrow, it is that bad even with custom roms. The screen is bad, the unit is heavy, and I decided the 7 inch size is my favorite.
The Archos running froyo is very buggy, only has 256mb of ram, and has wifi issues at this point and feels like I could break it by looking at it too hard.
The color is the best display, has plenty of ram, and feels very solid. We just need a good rom and it should fly!
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From the "should I get a nook color " thread.
By Bertojg. I couldn't link to the thread from my phone
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noodles12 said:
From the "should I get a nook color " thread.
By Bertojg. I couldn't link to the thread from my phone
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I was wondering more in comparison to the Samsung Galaxy Tab, but that's cool too.

Oh scrap. I can't read.
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Two of my coworkers got a Tab. It is definitely better than the Nook Color - it's running Android 2.2 out of the box, the screen is as excellent as the Nook's, and it's got 3G, gps, bluetooth, and a camera (if those things are important to you).
It's also snappier as it has a slightly faster chip. It is thicker than the Nook Color though.
The biggest difference is that you can pretty much buy 2 Nook Colors for 1 Tab.
If you want the full Android 2.2 experience and the $300+ price difference is not a factor, then yeah get a Tab.

i only tested a display and i was blown away by the experience. all the goodness of the nook (great screen,sturdy hardware, 512MB of ram) with the performance of the archos 70 (much snappier than the nook-but not as fast as the galaxy).
i'm very much considering returning both the nook and archos 70 and just getting the galaxy tab. i only need one (other) tablet anyways.

The point is, how is the potential of the NC with a custom ROM?
With a fine software many think that the NC will perform almost as good as the Tab...
Time will tell.

I think it will.... Roms do make a HUGE difference with these type of devices. Let's hope someone get one out soon.
king conan said:
The point is, how is the potential of the NC with a custom ROM?
With a fine software many think that the NC will perform almost as good as the Tab...
Time will tell.
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I wasn't too impressed with the Galaxy Tab when compared to the Nook Color. I don't need 3G, bluetooth or a camera because my phone has all of that. I've played with the Galaxy Tab in a store here in Finland and it's quite thick as well.
The Nook Color is thinner and than my iPad but with the same resolution screen and more dots per inch.
The cost is another issue. The Galaxy Tab is over 800euro over here yet the Nook Color came to under 300 euro including 23% local import tax and shipping service cost. I would have bought the Galaxy Tab if the price wasn't so ridiculous.

discourse said:
The cost is another issue. The Galaxy Tab is over 800euro over here yet the Nook Color came to under 300 euro including 23% local import tax and shipping service cost. I would have bought the Galaxy Tab if the price wasn't so ridiculous.
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800 euro... that's 1050 USD. Here you pick up the Galaxy at the store for 600 USD, some 450 Euro.
Gotta love the CHEAP US of A!

I think we need to be a bit honest with ourselves here. Let us cut to the chase, the Galaxy Tab is a better device than the NC. It is more capable out of the box because of the hardware it carries, and as good as the Nook Color is, lack of hardware features can never be made up by the best ROM in the world.
This does not mean the Nook Color is a bad device. It is a great device, in its price range.
To me, the Nook is not a competitor to the Galaxy Tab. The Tab is a BMW. The Nook Color is a sturdy Ford, both good - but two different devices that do not compete with each other.
A buyer interested in a Galaxy Tab will not consider a Nook Color (as a Android tablet) just like a Nook Color buyer will not consider a Galaxy Tab. The price differential is just too big.
There is much to like about both devices, but comparing them, IMO, is apples to oranges - and a mismatch from the get-go.

Keep in mind who makes the Tab
Like so many others I heard about the Samsung Behold 2 and how those customers got screwed but got a Samsung Vibrant anyway. And like so many others I found out the GPS is borked. And the battery life is poor. At least I didn't experience the lag problem, but I returned it.
And watched for the not-really-promised GPS fix. Which finally came and...didn't work. I really liked the screen and wanted to like the phone, but if the phone can't do what was advertised up front, forget it.
And Samsung on Android 2.3 on their S9000 series of phones (e.g. Vibrant)? Their statement sounded like "Maybe someday if we feel like it and there is a strong tailwind we might think about it but no promises". Maybe the phone is a dead end, maybe it isn't, but based on Samsung's performance so far, I wouldn't count on it. It doesn't have 2.2 yet. My phone (MT4G) came with it, my wife's (DX) got an OTA.
To me this says the Samsung Tab is absolutely out. You'd have to practically give me one to get me to take it. Same for the Nexus S.
The Nook, right now, is not fully tabletized, but that's a matter of software. It has a fabulous screen and seems reasonable in many ways. It is far cheaper than any of its competition (as a tablet). I find it stylish and I could actually imagine reading books on it (I know, what am I thinking?). And my wife is irate that I'm considering it so soon after she got me an Air.
So, is there a Plex controller that is worthwhile for Android tablets? That'd go a LONG way toward getting approval from the missus.

I agree. Samsung has never supported their devices well, and they still insist on using proprietary cables and connectors on everything. On top of that, they went ahead and did everything I dislike about apple by releasing the galaxy tab at that price. They are not even trying to compete with the Ipad, they are just assuming that everyone who wants an android tablet will shell out the big bucks to buy it, the same way apple fans will shell out the big bucks to buy anything made by apple. I'm sure it's a good device, it's gotten great reviews - I just don't like the way they went about it.

My wife told me after I got the NC that she was going to get me a Tab for Christmas. I'm glad I got the NC, I would have had to return the Tab! Too many features in the Tab that I just won't use. The only thing it has that I wish the NC had, is the slightly faster processor (800MHz vs 1GHz.)
Besides the hardware differences, it's a Samsung. They aren't known for providing updates in a timely manner and support on their devices. Sure, we don't know about the NC's status in that respect, but I also don't really care given it's price point. Whatever the development community does is fine by me!
But as was already said, you aren't comparing apples to oranges, you're comparing apples to a fruit basket. It's got more, it's different, and it's more money. I'm fine with apples.

xwint3rxmut3x said:
I agree. Samsung has never supported their devices well, and they still insist on using proprietary cables and connectors on everything. On top of that, they went ahead and did everything I dislike about apple by releasing the galaxy tab at that price. They are not even trying to compete with the Ipad, they are just assuming that everyone who wants an android tablet will shell out the big bucks to buy it, the same way apple fans will shell out the big bucks to buy anything made by apple. I'm sure it's a good device, it's gotten great reviews - I just don't like the way they went about it.
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While we're talking about Samsung's business tactics that leave a sour taste in your mouth, two things come to mind:
- apparently they turned down Google's proposal for them to name the eventual Nexus S the Nexus 2 because "we're not #2 in anything." Wow. Surely someone is making a year-end list of "biggest douchebag quotes of the year" right about now - please note this one.
- I'd sacrifice my first-born if the reason for the delay until "after the holidays" for the wifi-only Tab was because of production delays. Either the carriers threw money at them to delay it, or it's just more profitable for them to sell 3g models, so they delayed it (or both). The irony is, I'd more strongly consider a Tab if a $450 wifi model was available now.

It would be closer if the Nook Color had Bluetooth, that way you could use a Bluetooth GPS, headsets, etc...
...but someone posted in another topic that Bluetooth might be there just "hidden", maybe in a custom ROM ?

discourse said:
I wasn't too impressed with the Galaxy Tab when compared to the Nook Color. I don't need 3G, bluetooth or a camera because my phone has all of that. I've played with the Galaxy Tab in a store here in Finland and it's quite thick as well.
The Nook Color is thinner and than my iPad but with the same resolution screen and more dots per inch.
The cost is another issue. The Galaxy Tab is over 800euro over here yet the Nook Color came to under 300 euro including 23% local import tax and shipping service cost. I would have bought the Galaxy Tab if the price wasn't so ridiculous.
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Hi discourse, I see you live in Finland (Europe), and as I am thinking of getting a Nook Color myself, could you tell me from which online store did you buy yours?
Thank you..!
About the Galaxy Tab, I've played with it for about an hour. My opinion is that it is laggy and definitely doesn't worth the ~600 euros that is its price here in Greece.

webvan said:
It would be closer if the Nook Color had Bluetooth, that way you could use a Bluetooth GPS, headsets, etc...
...but someone posted in another topic that Bluetooth might be there just "hidden", maybe in a custom ROM ?
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The processor chipset (?) is supposed to include bluetooth. It's assumed it wasn't activated due to licensing costs for bluetooth, so it's there, just not used and may be "unlocked" by a rom.

I've both. NC cannot compare to the Galaxy Tab in user experience.
You just get a much better polished experience with the tab on everything. Tab's gpu is almost 10x faster in polygon count. CPU is faster (even with SetCPU set at performance on NC). Everything just works on the Tab.
That said, I am considering returning my Tab because of all the new tablets coming out in a few months, and the price. NC could hold me over for a few months.
wvcachi said:
Has anyone spent a good amount of time with both a rooted Nook Color and the Galaxy Tab who can write some impressions on how they compare in regular use? The $350 difference is dictating that I go Nook Color, but it's always fun to hear comparisons before buying...
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gigadigit said:
I've both. NC cannot compare to the Galaxy Tab in user experience.
You just get a much better polished experience with the tab on everything. Tab's gpu is almost 10x faster in polygon count. CPU is faster (even with SetCPU set at performance on NC). Everything just works on the Tab.
That said, I am considering returning my Tab because of all the new tablets coming out in a few months, and the price. NC could hold me over for a few months.
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Do you know if the hardware GPU is better than the NC or is just based on current software of Tab vs NC? I've done a lot of research into the nook color, but I admit, graphics wise it's still a bit of a mystery to me.

[Q] Should I get a Tab 1 now that 2 is 10"

Just saw the news that the Tab 2 is 10.1". I had been waiting to buy a tablet for the Tab 2 with hopes of the upgraded hardware and still a 7" screen. I don't want a 10" screen for a tab.
I guess i'm just looking to see if the hardware on the Tab 1 is good enough for most things.
Guess I'm just disappointed in a 10".

Will you be using it as a phone? If yes, I would ask to re-think it twice about 10" for a phone lol
I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.

Or you can just wait until Honeycomb will be released, at that time you will have an upgrade in your GT 7" from Samsung or from XDA.
At the moment the Hardware is capable enough to make everything you want, record video at 720, watch HD movies or play HD Games...
Personally, I would not move to a 10" Tab, as a 7" fits my needs.

I'm not moving. I don't have 1.
I was waiting to buy a tab till the 2, but it's 10". I've played with my friends Ipad, besides being locked down, I don't like how big it is. I really like the 7" size.
I don't think in NA I can use it as a phone. PLus I don't think I want a CDMA tab even tho My cell is Verizon.
I'm using it mainly as GPS, Game, email, hopefully Skype, etc. All over wifi. I travel for my job and would like to have this, and wherever I go I have wifi, and refuse to pay ~30-40/month for a data plan or w/e.
So was just looking to see if people felt I should get the 7". I mean I know it's my decisions, I guess I just want to know based on what I want to use it for, does it do it well.
I do plan on rooting it and stuff, I heard some of the ROM's actually remove a ton of the lag, and I doubt samsung will release HoneyComb so was hoping a xda developer would for the Tab, and the Tab would be powerful enough to run it.

The 10" was a big downer. I dont see any real use for a tab just in the home and a 10" is to big to have with you all the time plus its heavy for the hands/wrists to use longer times.
Now when im running Rotos JMI ontop a 1,4GHz ext4 kernel i cant realy ask for much more. The tab works great and are quick in the perfect format.
Would be fun if hc get ported to the sgt. But i will never buy a 10" when they are almost completly useless in my eyes.
EDIT: And i use my sgt as phone so i have it on me all the time. It fits in my front pockets on my pants without problems, but im a big dude so i have big pockets

robertsydbrink said:
The 10" was a big downer. I dont see any real use for a tab just in the home and a 10" is to big to have with you all the time plus its heavy for the hands/wrists to use longer times.
Now when im running Rotos JMI ontop a 1,4GHz ext4 kernel i cant realy ask for much more. The tab works great and are quick in the perfect format.
Would be fun if hc get ported to the sgt. But i will never buy a 10" when they are almost completly useless in my eyes.
EDIT: And i use my sgt as phone so i have it on me all the time. It fits in my front pockets on my pants without problems, but im a big dude so i have big pockets
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I got big pockets too, the 7" fits.
I thought the tab 1 was 1GHZ not 1.4?. But you like it alot?
I don't think I can get calling in USA.

I'm glad the Tab 10.1 turned out to be a larger device. Now i can stop trying to figure out how to afford to upgrade, and stay with the Tab1 with its 7" of goodness.

dardack said:
I got big pockets too, the 7" fits.
I thought the tab 1 was 1GHZ not 1.4?. But you like it alot?
I don't think I can get calling in USA.
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He's flashed it with a custom kernel to run at 1.4.
If you buy the AT&T version, you can indeed get voice calling in the US, after you flash it with Euro firmware and insert a SIM from a voice plan device. You can also get it with the T-Mobile version, but there's a few issues with that. Good news is that both versions can use international firmware no problem, even if you don't want/use voice calling.
I'd stay the hell away from the Sprint and Verizon devices for a couple of reasons. The first is that they have less internal memory (2Gb vs 16Gb), and the other is that neither unit can use international firmware, leaving you almost entirely at the mercy of the carriers for upgrades.

Croak said:
He's flashed it with a custom kernel to run at 1.4.
If you buy the AT&T version, you can indeed get voice calling in the US, after you flash it with Euro firmware and insert a SIM from a voice plan device. You can also get it with the T-Mobile version, but there's a few issues with that. Good news is that both versions can use international firmware no problem, even if you don't want/use voice calling.
I'd stay the hell away from the Sprint and Verizon devices for a couple of reasons. The first is that they have less internal memory (2Gb vs 16Gb), and the other is that neither unit can use international firmware, leaving you almost entirely at the mercy of the carriers for upgrades.
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This is the kind of information I was looking for. TY for taking time.
What about the Best Buy / Amazon version? Yea I was staying away from Verizon/CDMA. I have verizon for my phone cause of work, and not a huge fan.
However, I won't need calling on the Tab.
Does it function OK OC"d at 1.4? It doesn't get too hot? Stability issues?
Yea I don't want to be at mercy. I want to put honeycomb on it if I do get it. I probably will now that 2 is 10, so I'll get 1. Just gonna wait and see if price comes down to like 400 or somethign hopefully.

I am 7" fan, too. Would love to see a SGT with the specs of the new 10.1" SGT 2 (or xoom), but with 7" screen. I am not big man, but "rounded in middle" (spare tire). I can fit my SGT in back pocket, nicely. It has fully replaced my Nexus 1.
For the 7" fans, the question maybe to stick with SGT 1 or maybe look at Acer a100 (http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=13010) -- appears to be 7" but with Tegra 2 (and a bump in a few other areas). The 7" form factor may have been validated with rumors about a 7" ipad (but those rumor seem unsubstantiated) -- so that might make more manufacturers take notice.
What would be really intersting, IMHO, 6", or 6.5" with SGT (or better) specs. I am not sure a 5" with 1024x600 would work..
LG has an 8.9" odd ball too.....
I think there is some more to come from MWC...maybe sammy has a refresh for the 7" sgt too?

Don't forget Dell has a 7" tablet too and it has dual core CPU (unlike our SGT 7"). The only downer is screen size is 800x480.
I don't think you could buy a SGT (no contract) lesser than $450 unless used. Streak 7" is $450 no contract.

I was in the same boat - bought my GT two weeks ago on T-Mobile, hoping that if there is an announcement about GT2, I can take a look at it before my return window closes. And at 10" no thank you. I actually had an iPad for few months (my wife wanted it more than me...) but just sold it, because it kept sitting unused, as it was too big for a book reader or to take it with me everywhere, but too small for good browsing (have a 14.1" laptop with 1680x1050 res for that).
I looked at the Dell Streak 7, but that screen just plain sucks. It looks like Dell was trying to build something nice, then just decided last minute that 7" won't work, so they found the cheapest LCD they could lay their hands on. Not to mention the battery life...
While it would be nice to have a GT with dual-core, 1Gb RAM and all that, I think the current hardware is more than capable, and will run Honeycomb just fine. My next tablet would have to be a lot more powerful, and have higher res screen.

i will stay with my 7'' tab
the best thing about the tab is it's size and the cell phone. i dont want to go back walking around with two devices in my pocket, i used to have an iphone & a big ass ipad so i know what is like to walk with two devices not cool lol.who ever makes the next 7'' tab with all the good stuff and a cell phone included i'm buying that.

quattr0 said:
Will you be using it as a phone? If yes, I would ask to re-think it twice about 10" for a phone lol
I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.
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AFAIK the tab 10.1 can't be used as a phone

quattr0 said:
I actually am thinking about letting mine go and get a Dell Streak phone (the 5"). While I love the tab but I kinda miss being able to toss it in my pocket and don't have to use bluetooth.
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Well i came to the tab from a dell streak and i'll tell ya the tab does everything way better than the streak, except fit in your pocket...... i wont be going back to the streak.

Yea I've read about the Dell 7", not getting that for sure. Screen rez alone plus battery life, no TY.
So there is another 7" Tab coming?
EDIT: That Ace 7" seems nice, plus a WIFI only version. No word on release in USA tho, only Europe.

FYI: HTC annouced the 'flyer' at MWC. This is a 7" too. 1.5ghz, 1024x600, cameras, android 2.4 (?) or honeycomb, etc. GSM voice support unknown.

fwelland said:
FYI: HTC annouced the 'flyer' at MWC. This is a 7" too. 1.5ghz, 1024x600, cameras, android 2.4 (?) or honeycomb, etc. GSM voice support unknown.
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I think i may return my GT and wait for this. I will only be buying one Tab, so I gotta make the right choice.

Here is a decent comparison matrix of the newly announced Android tablets
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/1...-lg-g-slate-vs-samsung-tab-10-1-vs-htc-flyer/
no mention of phone/voice on any of these; this is a deal breaker for some of us.

It's a deal breaker for me as i was a "one gadget man"
my main reason i go with samsung was because it can be used as a phone
if it isn't i'd go with htc already
if flyer can be used as a phone too, i might be jumping ship to htc ^^

[Q] iPad 2 vs Galaxy Tab

Did a search, didn't find a whole lot on this topic so figured i'd ask since I'm trying to decide between the two.
I currently have a Captivate and can say i love the dev community it has. Running CM7 and its awesome.
That being said, Apple's hardware has always been great but iOS is lame. I previously had a jailbroken iPhone and it was ok at best. iPad is a bit different though, if i was to get one i'd jailbreak it as soon as i can....but more interestingly its looking like OpeniBoot has support for the original iPad so it might have iPad 2 support in the furture. I'm not sure how smooth android would be on it but it would allow me to run both android/iOS on great hardware.
A big factor for me is price, from what i'm reading the new Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably be around $800 like the Xoom and thats too much for me. Both wifi verisons of iPad 2/Galaxy Tab around $500 which is the price point i'm looking for.
So which would you recommend?
Thanks

Wifi Galaxy Tab will be more like $400 max..
Would you not consider a used/new 3G Galaxy Tab.
The 7" design is great for portability and adding 3G completes the Tab imo..
If its for household use only I would say IPad..
Bear in mind I only own a Tab though not an IPad lol.

Well This is what I think:
iPad 2:
Much more secure
Closed Source
Nicer Screen
NOT PORTABLE DUE TO BIGGER SIZE.
Galaxy Tab 7
Not very secure ( Thank you you SOB's....your day will come ) but still more secure than Windows.
It is PORTABLE ( Can fit into pocket )
You can customize it/Flash it
All in all the Galaxy Tab is a winner IMHO. 7 inches is the PERFECT size ( pls no "****" jokes ) for being more portable and customisation.

Digiguest said:
Well This is what I think:
iPad 2:
Much more secure
Closed Source
Nicer Screen
NOT PORTABLE DUE TO BIGGER SIZE.
Galaxy Tab 7
Not very secure ( Thank you you SOB's....your day will come ) but still more secure than Windows.
It is PORTABLE ( Can fit into pocket )
You can customize it/Flash it
All in all the Galaxy Tab is a winner IMHO. 7 inches is the PERFECT size ( pls no "****" jokes ) for being more portable and customisation.
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Not very secure?
http://www.groovypost.com/howto/news/pwn2own-google-unhacked/

RE:
Just got the Tab on Thursday. Bought it outright.
Got the Bell Mobility model so I could put my internet keys' SIM into it.
Two things impressed me:
1.) Using Z4Root I rooted my Tab in seconds and it was simple. (Article on the forums here with the apk)
2.) The fact that I could unlock the device for free with Roto's process (also on the forums), was pretty sweet.
I put the Overcome 1.2.2 ROM on my Tab, an extra 16gb mem card, and have installed a crap ton of apps to test its limits.
Thus far, the device has not slowed down.
It's usable in all lighting conditions, and the battery life is quite impressive.
I get that everyone pushes Apple products because they're the greatest thing since a toaster(and mildly more useful. ), but with the Tab you get freedom, functionality, and portability.
I call that a win-win.

I feel that Galaxy tab is much more impressive, I am impressed by the openness of Android and how you can manipulate it with only a little effort.
Plus, iOS is a shame, with a huge portion of its apps being paid ones, go for the Tab if it gets only a bit more expensive but 800 is way pricier to be sold.

roy8846 said:
Wifi Galaxy Tab will be more like $400 max..
Would you not consider a used/new 3G Galaxy Tab.
The 7" design is great for portability and adding 3G completes the Tab imo..
If its for household use only I would say IPad..
Bear in mind I only own a Tab though not an IPad lol.
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Where can you get one for $400?
Digiguest said:
Well This is what I think:
iPad 2:
Much more secure
Closed Source
Nicer Screen
NOT PORTABLE DUE TO BIGGER SIZE.
Galaxy Tab 7
Not very secure ( Thank you you SOB's....your day will come ) but still more secure than Windows.
It is PORTABLE ( Can fit into pocket )
You can customize it/Flash it
All in all the Galaxy Tab is a winner IMHO. 7 inches is the PERFECT size ( pls no "****" jokes ) for being more portable and customisation.
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What do you mean by not very secure?
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Just got the Tab on Thursday. Bought it outright.
Got the Bell Mobility model so I could put my internet keys' SIM into it.
Two things impressed me:
1.) Using Z4Root I rooted my Tab in seconds and it was simple. (Article on the forums here with the apk)
2.) The fact that I could unlock the device for free with Roto's process (also on the forums), was pretty sweet.
I put the Overcome 1.2.2 ROM on my Tab, an extra 16gb mem card, and have
installed a crap ton of apps to test its limits.
Thus far, the device has not slowed down.
It's usable in all lighting conditions, and the battery life is quite impressive.
I get that everyone pushes Apple products because they're the greatest thing since a toaster(and mildly more useful. ), but with the Tab you get freedom, functionality, and portability.
I call that a win-win.
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I feel that Galaxy tab is much more impressive, I am impressed by the openness of Android and how you can manipulate it with only a little effort.
Plus, iOS is a shame, with a huge portion of its apps being paid ones, go for the Tab if it gets only a bit more expensive but 800 is way pricier to be sold.
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I agree with both of you about Android. I suppose one of the main reasons I was even going to consider the iPad is the possibility of putting Android on it in the future

chrisz5z said:
Where can you get one for $400?
I agree with both of you about Android. I suppose one of the main reasons I was even going to consider the iPad is the possibility of putting Android on it in the future
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Wait, what? Why spend all that money on an ipad if you are just going to jailbreak it and put android OS on it anyway?

vamp6x6x6x said:
Wait, what? Why spend all that money on an ipad if you are just going to jailbreak it and put android OS on it anyway?
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Better quality hardware, bigger screen, and the prices are basically the same. Also openiboot dual boots iOS and android

Galaxy tab 10.1 is the same size screen as the ipad. And where is the documentation saying the ipad has better specs...
On most threads in all the blogs I've read, Galaxy tab beat the ipad hands down... Most threads say the ipad and tabs specs are pretty close with the main difference being screen size (also ipad has bigger battery with a bit better life, 10 hours versus 8). Nowhere did it say the ipad has better hardware...
Personally Apple hype up everything, had the ipod/iphone reps to expand their market with. They aren't any better than anything else out there, in fact I get the dirts with how limiting IOS really is.
If you want something that seems to be developed with the speed of continental drift go with the Ipad, if you want something thats open and can be altered, changed and played with then the Android Galaxy Tab is the go...
When Galaxy Tab 10.1 is released then Apple are REALLY gonna have a battle on their hands, there's a reason Android is liked and IOS isn't.

ultramag69 said:
Galaxy tab 10.1 is the same size screen as the ipad. And where is the documentation saying the ipad has better specs...
On most threads in all the blogs I've read, Galaxy tab beat the ipad hands down... Most threads say the ipad and tabs specs are pretty close with the main difference being screen size (also ipad has bigger battery with a bit better life, 10 hours versus 8). Nowhere did it say the ipad has better hardware...
Personally Apple hype up everything, had the ipod/iphone reps to expand their market with. They aren't any better than anything else out there, in fact I get the dirts with how limiting IOS really is.
If you want something that seems to be developed with the speed of continental drift go with the Ipad, if you want something thats open and can be altered, changed and played with then the Android Galaxy Tab is the go...
When Galaxy Tab 10.1 is released then Apple are REALLY gonna have a battle on their hands, there's a reason Android is liked and IOS isn't.
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i haven't been comparing the Tab 10.1 with the iPad, I'm referring to the 7" that has been out for a while. And by hardware I'm talking about the materials its made from, i.e. look/feel/build quality...i already know what the specs are

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i haven't been comparing the Tab 10.1 with the iPad, I'm referring to the 7" that has been out for a while. And by hardware I'm talking about the materials its made from, i.e. look/feel/build quality...i already know what the specs are
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I also assumed you were comparing the iPad 2 to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I think that's a fairer comparison, for the original 7" Tab it's better to compare to the original iPad.
Between the Tab 10.1 and iPad 2 - I'm not sure, still deciding. But between the 7" Tab and the iPad - I went for the iPad, mostly for the bigger screen. If you go the way of the original iPad I'm sure you can pick up a mint condition one for a good price off eBay.

i think it all comes down to what kind of user you are. If you're the type that buys a Mac or any other decent pre build desktop computer and don't want to think about (read:don't understand) what goes on inside it, get the iPad/iPad2. If you're into building the desktop computer from scratch get the galaxy tab/android .

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I also assumed you were comparing the iPad 2 to the Galaxy Tab 10.1 - I think that's a fairer comparison, for the original 7" Tab it's better to compare to the original iPad.
Between the Tab 10.1 and iPad 2 - I'm not sure, still deciding. But between the 7" Tab and the iPad - I went for the iPad, mostly for the bigger screen. If you go the way of the original iPad I'm sure you can pick up a mint condition one for a good price off eBay.
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Well my main thing is price. I've been reading that the 10.1 Tab could be around $800, i dont' wanna spend that much. I've seen the 7" Tab for around $500, and the iPad 2 is $500 for the wifi version.
Hmm idk, i think it'd be wise to wait for the 10.1 Tab's official price. If its around $500 then i'll get that, if not then i'll just try n find a cheap used 7" Tab or iPad
I appreciate everybody's input

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i think it all comes down to what kind of user you are. If you're the type that buys a Mac or any other decent pre build desktop computer and don't want to think about (read:don't understand) what goes on inside it, get the iPad/iPad2. If you're into building the desktop computer from scratch get the galaxy tab/android .
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Not so!
I used to put my own PCs together, but simply can't be bothered any more, so now I own Dells and Macs. However, I choose Android for my phones and tablets mostly because I dislike the control Apple exerts over its mobile platform.
Regards,
Dave

I have the galaxy tab, but the ipad 2 is better.
- dual core
- nicer screen
- netflix
- more RAM (i think)
- apple's market
- smoother and more refined

for me basically it lies on the OS itself
yeah sure, iPad looks / screen is better, but in term of hardware u can't possibly say that iPad 2 hardware is superior coz AFAIK, the chip is manufactured by samsung, and the storage drive is toshiba's
the fast that you saw based solely on the simplicity of the OS itself
you're doomed, not being able to do / mod anything like you wanted to, but in the bright side, you get stability and speed
same iPad hardware but running android wouldnt feel the same way i think, only my opinion though
how hard the process needs to be to provide square beside square beside square and that it opens up when you touch?
my suggestion is go for what you need, and make your own +/-, coz in the end you'll be the one using it ^^

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but in term of hardware u can't possibly say that iPad 2 hardware is superior coz AFAIK, the chip is manufactured by samsung, and the storage drive is toshiba's
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That's a strawman argument. Samsung don't even make the Tegra 2 chips that will power the Tab 10.1. They have a processor, the Exynos (which I suspect is very similar to the A5), but they are using the Tegra 2 because (a) it's the Honeycomb reference platform, and (b) chances are that they don't have sufficient production capacity to satisfy both A5 and Exynos demand.
Just because Apple don't make every single component in their devices (they don't even "manufacture" their own devices anyway), doesn't mean that they don't produce superior hardware (in most cases).
A product's hardware is almost always more than the sum of its parts - it's also how well it is designed and put together. The only time when this is generally not the case, is cheap Chinese clones, which are often less than the sum of their parts!
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Dave

I think you wouldn't go wrong with either.
However, given you already have your apps in your android phone, you could stick with android, so you don't have to buy them all over, by getting into IOS.
Do you need microSD slot? Then get galaxy tab. Why not get Xoom?
Do you need a large screen? Then get Ipad.
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I think you wouldn't go wrong with either.
However, given you already have your apps in your android phone, you could stick with android, so you don't have to buy them all over, by getting into IOS.
Do you need microSD slot? Then get galaxy tab. Why not get Xoom?
Do you need a large screen? Then get Ipad.
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Thats the thing. I love android, but to be honest am leaning towards the ipad2 because the Xoom doesn't seem appealing to me and from the looks of it the gTab 10.1 is going to be a xoom with better speaker placement and lack of a sd card slot.

Would you still buy the Galaxy Tab 8.9?

Hi,
I have been thinking about buying a Android tablet for some time. I don't really need a tablet, but would like to give it a try anyhow. I would probably use it mostly for surfing the web, reading new sites and watching movies when on the train. I might play some games from time to time. I would also like to use it for Skype voice and video chat. I'm also prepared to root the device and flash custom roms for better performance.
At the moment the Galaxy Tab 8.9 (Wifi) is on sale for about $ 220 here in Switzerland. It seems like a good deal for this tablet and within the amound of money I am prepared to spend for something "unnessecary", but would you still buy it given that the hardware is somewhat dated? How well does Skype work?
Any advice is greately appreciated!
Cheers
TiredHornet

To my opinion, the Galaxy Tab 8.9 has a unique form factor and weight (approx 420g), that make it still very desirable to my eyes. The screen is very good. ICS with an alternative launcher like 'Nova' or 'Apex' makes it lovely to use on a daily basis (I don't appreciate the Touchwiz one much).
I learned to live without any sd card expansion slot. I bought a 32gb model to compensate for the lack of memory extension, but finally I don't use the internal storage at all, except of course for apps. If I had to buy it again, I would simply stick with the 16Gb version...
The only complain I have is the outdated Tegra 2 processor, that's why I use to overclock a little bit (1.2Ghz). Works like a charm.
PS: I tested Skype a little bit and seemed good enough to me and to the people at the other end.

Yes, definitely. sgauge points out some great benefits of the 8.9, the form factor is just right. I'm still using 3.2 Overcome Rom also OC'd to 1.2 and really it runs super smooth. I also have the 16gb and that's plenty of space. I bought the usb dongle which can read off a usb stick so no need to carry movies on the tablet itself. It's really replaced my laptop for internet browsing, following live sports streams online and casual emailing. Just an extra aside, but I also invested in the official external keyboard and dock (amazon uk had them at rock bottom prices a few weeks back) and they are classy add-ons making the tablet a real smart package. And with ICS seemingly here, perhaps I'll think of upgrading my rom too!
Update: Skype works great, impressed with video/sound quality and stability!

Hmm, $220 for a 8.9 is practically a steal
It helps to know what you want it for, but I use it on train commute, and a lot of casual browsing on the couch. Basically, I could use my phone for that, but the tablet has more comfort and battery.
I find the 16gb not enough, if you take it on holiday and want some movies. I got the usb reader for $3 dollars shipped from China (ebay), much better value than €30 local shop.
I dislike the weight and size of a 10.1, to the point that I think 8.0 to 8.5 should be ideal size.
Good luck

Thx for all the advice! I think I'm going to go the shop right now and have a look at the tablet. I had it in my hands some month ago and found the size really good. And with the official ICS release starting to roll out, it is probably a even better deal at $220.

I bought it in Ch (living in Constance) and absolutely love it.
Had an Acer Iconia A500 before, the difference in weight and quality is huuuge.
After Installing JB it works like a charm!
If your local M.Electronics is out of stock, you can just place a reservation. I waited for 1 day

In fact, I did just buy a Tab 8.9 -- Cowboom had a bunch of preowned ones for sale. I snagged a Condition 7 (looks brand new, came with all accessories other than headphones) for $170 shipped. I love the size. Every 10" tablet I looked at was too big for comfortable reading, but the 7" tablets just felt...cramped.

Go for it
$220 is a real steal! And with ICS now it will be just awesome!

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$220 is a real steal! And with ICS now it will be just awesome!
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Agreed. Having seen the difference in how my 8.9 ran on Honeycomb and now on ICS, it's like a different tablet! If you can pick up one of these tablets for less than $200 then jump on it.

Next phone or tablet is a nexus for sure
im done with samsung

- Form factor is just perfect.
- the ics runs great so no tensions for some time to come.
- 10.1 is too big, 7 is too small.
- 7.7 is close but too pricey.
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My tf101 just broke now using as a Google TV and my tab is galaxy 8.9 and I bought it for $150
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TiredHornet said:
Thx for all the advice! I think I'm going to go the shop right now and have a look at the tablet. I had it in my hands some month ago and found the size really good. And with the official ICS release starting to roll out, it is probably a even better deal at $220.
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Have fun with it. I doubt you will regret.

I bought the 8.9 so that when my partner and I went camping we could watch movies that we had, ahem, aquired.
It was perfect for just that reason with the desktop dock and the SD / USB adapters.
Now that we are back from holidays, it's perfect for general surfing and stuff like solving arguments where powering up the PC would take too long to Google something and the phone screen would bee too small / fiddly.
8.9 was the best form facto for my needs and I do not see any need to change to a bigger screen, if I wanted a bigger screen - Netbook / Laptop yet I would have to wait for it to boot up, so, long story short, I love the 8.9 and would definately buy it.
Hope this helps!

I like the form factor, the screen and the build quality seems solid. I hate the proprietary plug in on the bottom. Afraid I'm going to lose the cord and be unable to charge the thing till I get another one from Samsung. It should be the mini USB everyone,minus Apple and Sammy, uses. Charge times are completely ridiculous, taking hours upon hours to get to full but the drain times are pretty good. Hopefull the ICS update fixes charge times, or at least makes it bearable. And no SD card slot sucks, plain and simple. Other than that it's pretty good....

Personally, I love it. I bought mine for about 400 dollars and didn't regret it ever since. For 220$, this is an absolute must. The size is optimal and the overall feel of the tablet is just...perfect. Go for it, champ!

Well I have to say out of all the tablets I have (most samsung ones, asus, nexus7, ipads etc) the galaxy tab 8.9 is probably the best feel for a semi-mobile tablet... However after looking at the samsung support and release cycle across the devices I have, I doubt I will ever buy samsung again tbh. Just an opinion...

I love the hardware, don't like the Samsung software. Waiting for the rom hackers to put the official ICS to use and build a full featured JB rom and then it'll probably beat the Nexus 7 as my favorite device.
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Looking to buy an 8.9. Anybody know where I can find one in the US?? Thanks

I just bought an 8.9 3G 32Gb for £250, which I think is a real bargain. Vodafone 3G SIM is very fast in my area, and I soon as I can work out how to get an official version of ICS or JB onto it, I will be laughing! 8.9" form factor is ideal for me, and Skype works great... and I find i'm using Skype alot more than I do on my laptop.... it's pretty sweet all around. Go for it! Touchwiz and all the Bloatware suck, so if you work out how to remove them, let me know!

What would you buy to replace your 8.4 Tab S ?

Love my Tab S but thinking on upgrading in the near future. What do you guys think is a honorable replacement?

Nothing.
There does not exist a comparable replacement. The Android tablet market made about three steps back since the Tab S series were released. Seriously.

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Nothing.
There does not exist a comparable replacement. The Android tablet market made about three steps back since the Tab S series were released. Seriously.
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Totally agree!! Tab s 8.4 is my tablet for years now. I am bothered that I can't find a perfect rom for it to flash (some things do not work on each rom) but no matter how ofter I search for a replacement, I always go back to my conclusion: There is no tablet like this! And sometimes I wonder why Samsung made such a GREAT table THAT early. Even the next ones (Tab S2, S3 etc) are not THAT much of a leap forward. Either poor battery, or lower screen quality, or no IR etc etc... So currently I stick with my beloved Tab S 8.4.
Now...to find a new rom......

artocube said:
Totally agree!! Tab s 8.4 is my tablet for years now. I am bothered that I can't find a perfect rom for it to flash (some things do not work on each rom) but no matter how ofter I search for a replacement, I always go back to my conclusion: There is no tablet like this! And sometimes I wonder why Samsung made such a GREAT table THAT early. Even the next ones (Tab S2, S3 etc) are not THAT much of a leap forward. Either poor battery, or lower screen quality, or no IR etc etc... So currently I stick with my beloved Tab S 8.4.
Now...to find a new rom......
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Well, S3 was a big leap forward in terms of SoC, but with its 600 dollar MSRP, what a poor value it was. And the S4 was good, but pricing completely mad. For that much money I can buy an entry level business class ultrabook. Tablet is great for media consumption, reading, and entertainment, but let's admit it's kind of a toy, it's not a business tool, and for what they offered the successive Tab S-line models were ridiculously overpriced. My Tab S 8.4 does feel kind of slow and I guess I could replace it when I see a tablet for better specs that's priced right, perhaps a heavily discounted Tab S4 during the holidays.

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Well, S3 was a big leap forward in terms of SoC, but with its 600 dollar MSRP, what a poor value it was. And the S4 was good, but pricing completely mad. For that much money I can buy an entry level business class ultrabook. Tablet is great for media consumption, reading, and entertainment, but let's admit it's kind of a toy, it's not a business tool, and for what they offered the successive Tab S-line models were ridiculously overpriced. My Tab S 8.4 does feel kind of slow and I guess I could replace it when I see a tablet for better specs that's priced right, perhaps a heavily discounted Tab S4 during the holidays.
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Well, for me a tablet IS a business tool as I use it twice a week (or more) for talks and presentations. And furthermore I like the 8.4" size and am not fond of bigger screens. Unfortunately Samsung doesn't release any decent small-sized tablets anymore. All the good stuff (RAM, CPU etc) exist on the bigger S3, S4, S5. The 8-inch-sized S and S2 were the only ones that did the trick for me. And currently upgrading to an S2 is not a good idea I believe. My (older) S 8.4 has better screen resolution, bigger battery, IR support... So yeah, I stick with it, for a little while at least. I really hope Samsung releases a smaller Tab S5 or (future) S6 (If that is even a thing) on a 8" form factor. I would really like to upgrade this sometime. Until then, it is the best table I ever had. Not gonna change it.

artocube said:
Well, for me a tablet IS a business tool as I use it twice a week (or more) for talks and presentations. And furthermore I like the 8.4" size and am not fond of bigger screens. Unfortunately Samsung doesn't release any decent small-sized tablets anymore. All the good stuff (RAM, CPU etc) exist on the bigger S3, S4, S5. The 8-inch-sized S and S2 were the only ones that did the trick for me. And currently upgrading to an S2 is not a good idea I believe. My (older) S 8.4 has better screen resolution, bigger battery, IR support... So yeah, I stick with it, for a little while at least. I really hope Samsung releases a smaller Tab S5 or (future) S6 (If that is even a thing) on a 8" form factor. I would really like to upgrade this sometime. Until then, it is the best table I ever had. Not gonna change it.
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Huawei is still making nice high end tablet with 8 inch screen (Mediapad M6), but sadly because of trade war, we're not going to see it on our shores.

Akopps said:
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I replaced my T-800 with the Tab S4 when Best Buy was blowing them out at $260 or less this past Christmas.
While my Tab S was very sexy and I had the Logitech Type S keyboard I loved it very much it was a no brainer upgrading at that point.
Here is my thread explaining the $260 sale:
https://slickdeals.net/f/13607677-s...-s4-64gb-tablet-wi-fi-black-260-in-store-ymmv
I would expect the S6 is about to go on deep discount soon so I would be on the look out if you're in the market for a new Samsung Tab.
I just sold off my T-800 in perfect shape, I do plan to hold onto my T-700 as Samsung just does not make sexiness like that any longer.

Hi guys I recently tried to understand whether it was possible to replace my Tab S 8.4 LTE and... I'm astonished. Android tablets are dead. I paid 350€ for this tablet at launch so taking into account 6 years of technological development I was expecting to find at the same price the following specs: 64-128gb of storage, 8gb of ram, same screen since oled technology had some troubles advancing, modern high end processor, a camera with not necessarily more pixels but with less noise and more details, no IR because we don't use TVs anymore.
What I found instead was: crappy low end overpriced tablets, with barely any ram, and no advancements whatsoever in productivity applications. The obvious choice would be to go for an x86 Windows tablet... But I don't dare to run Windows with less than 16gb of ram (any browser uses 5-6gb of ram to begin with with my usage scenario) and onestly those tablets have poor battery life and there are no small tablets to begin with. This leaves only the ipad mini... Which I had terrible experience with (ipad mini 2 was dropped from support and update very quickly and became slow as hell with the last updates it received).
Do you guys have any suggestion? Huaway is out of the question... I don't want to be caught in a stupid useless war.

There is no suitable replacement. I use mine as a phone and there is just nothing with as large a display that has an earpiece that you can hold up to your face and make calls with. I now own 3, 2 working, so I have spare parts as bits break.

Actually that is a usage scenario that happened a couple of times. My phone was temporarily down (anything from a bricked rom to a simply drained battery) and I always simply took the sim out of it, stuck into the tablet and continued my day with no problems whatsoever. Before buying this tablet I was super into the Asus transformer line. A phone that you insert in a screen that becomes a tablet with additional battery life, then you attach the keyboard and bump in terms of productivity. They where unreasonably costly to begin with had bad software support, and super died probably because the company got more money selling separate devices. I tried to create my own version of it with a raspberry pi but it was obviously very clunky.

hi you all!
i have been researching about this subejct and found this thread...
i was also looking into replacing my 8 inch tab S tablet but havent found anything good out there... and i thought tablets were getting better and better each release... like cellhphones...
seems like the 8 inchers are forgotten by the manufacturers... its sad...
my tablet works, sometimes i think it is slow... i guess i keep on comparing to my cell galaxy s10e...
i have the ORIGINAL keyboard that locks into the tablet... i loved this keyboard since it came out! such an awesome design...
anyway... i was thinking above the Huawei MediaPad M6 8 inch... but cant decide...

iPostNak3d said:
hi you all!
i have been researching about this subject and found this thread...
i was also looking into replacing my 8 inch tab S tablet but haven't found anything good out there... and i thought tablets were getting better and better each release... like cellphones...
seems like the 8 inches are forgotten by the manufacturers... its sad...
my tablet works, sometimes i think it is slow... i guess i keep on comparing to my cell galaxy s10e...
i have the ORIGINAL keyboard that locks into the tablet... i loved this keyboard since it came out! such an awesome design...
anyway... i was thinking above the Huawei MediaPad M6 8 inch... but cant decide...
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Hi There is no replacement to our beloved tablet except for the Huawei Mediapad. Chuwi does make a very compelling android tablet with keyboard... but it is way bigger than the Tab S 8.4.
If you don't mind a slightly shorter screen-on time with your current battery you can change the CPU governor to something more performing. That coupled with a thermal mod gave a totally new life to my tablet (I was close to trashing it before these 2 things together). Now its running so great that I'm tempted to buy a new battery ( or 2 batteries hacked up together) and go on with it for a couple more years.

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Hi There is no replacement to our beloved tablet except for the Huawei Mediapad. Chuwi does make a very compelling android tablet with keyboard... but it is way bigger than the Tab S 8.4.
If you don't mind a slightly shorter screen-on time with your current battery you can change the CPU governor to something more performing. That coupled with a thermal mod gave a totally new life to my tablet (I was close to trashing it before these 2 things together). Now its running so great that I'm tempted to buy a new battery ( or 2 batteries hacked up together) and go on with it for a couple more years.
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Are you using a custom rom?

Tab S 10.1

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Are you using a custom rom?
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Hi yes I'm using the latest Lineage OS Deathly (android 7.1). The rom is probably close to its EOL since there is much less activity and updates. ROM. I've undervolted the tab and put an aluminium bar on the SOC to stop it from overheating... I would not describe the experience as high end but it's way better than before. The same developer made roms also for the WIFi only model and for the 2 bigger models.