Lately i have been having many problems with my captivate from just normal function use and problems with trying to back it up and use roms. ive looked through countless threads followed directions, videos, but those came with no such luck.
First ill mention the recent problems i seem to have which most likely are due to me attempting to back it up, use rom manager, installing roms etc. First is the response of the unlock button which just started happening today. ill have to push the unlock button multiple times before i even get the unlock screen. when i finally do get it its usually covered in the menu you get when you hold down the lock button. while in a voicemail today i tried unlocking to click the number pad and instead my phone just randomly turned off.
Another recent problem is horrriiibbbllleee battery life. ill take my phone off the charger at 100% get ready for work eat breakfast and in that time maybe text my gf once or twice and ill be down like 10% it is impossible for me to get my phone to last a whole day without charging it in my car during my lunch break and i still go home in the red zone of battery.
Now to the problems ive been having that most likely caused this.
a few weeks ago i wanted to try to put on cog5 and cm7 to try them out. before i did anything i wanted to back up my phone so first i plugged it in and simply copied every folder from the phone and sd card to my computer just in case. then i looked up ways to do backups and rom installs and many things led me to using rom manager. (i was already rooted and have the froyo leak from last year) first i tried the backup option in rom manager, after running it it did absolutely nothing, there were no options when i would go back to it and to the restore option. i figured aww whatever ill try this anyways. i downloaded the zip files for the roms placed them in the sd folder as update.zip or w.e. would open up into the download mode or whatever only to see no option to download the file.
i also tried installing cog 4.5 which was an option through rom manager and that did nothing as well. i eventually somehow messed my phone up where when i turned it on if i would press the app drawer it would pop up the menu, only like 5 apps would display, it would bounce up and down and i couldnt back out of it or click anything. when i could get it to the main screen i also couldnt do anything. i was able to go into task killer through the dropdown menu and navigate to stuff through there. again tried to do the restore in manager but nothing. so i just wiped every file on the phone and sd card and replaced it with the files i had saved earlier and have just been using it as that.
recently i found an article saying i need to flash back to the original then flash to gingerbread before i can do anything else. well before i wanted to mess with this i wanted to try to backup. read articles on nandroid backups and watched a how to vid. the article said to boot into clockwork recovery then click back up and yada yada. if the option was not there then to click reinstall packages. however everytime i click reinstall packages my phone fails and will not do it.
all in all i just need help backing up my phone as i have some apps and games and stuff i dont feel like starting over on (tho if i have to i guess i will ha)
after the backup i would then like to install cm7 or cog5 and if anyone feels those arent stable enough for normal use then whatever anyone suggests. im really horrible at messing around with these phones, probably shouldnt have been even trying but i get bored sometimes. main problem is just none of the options any video or guide states ever work when i actually do it with my phone or those options arent even available.
thanks in advance to everyone and try to make your responses as stupid as possible
if you would read around the captivate forums, rom manager isnt of much use to us here. just boot into recovery and use CWM, then select BACKUP AND RESTORE, to make your backup.....
Delldorado said:
Lately i have been having many problems with my captivate from just normal function use and problems with trying to back it up and use roms. ive looked through countless threads followed directions, videos, but those came with no such luck.
First ill mention the recent problems i seem to have which most likely are due to me attempting to back it up, use rom manager, installing roms etc. First is the response of the unlock button which just started happening today. ill have to push the unlock button multiple times before i even get the unlock screen. when i finally do get it its usually covered in the menu you get when you hold down the lock button. while in a voicemail today i tried unlocking to click the number pad and instead my phone just randomly turned off.
Another recent problem is horrriiibbbllleee battery life. ill take my phone off the charger at 100% get ready for work eat breakfast and in that time maybe text my gf once or twice and ill be down like 10% it is impossible for me to get my phone to last a whole day without charging it in my car during my lunch break and i still go home in the red zone of battery.
Now to the problems ive been having that most likely caused this.
a few weeks ago i wanted to try to put on cog5 and cm7 to try them out. before i did anything i wanted to back up my phone so first i plugged it in and simply copied every folder from the phone and sd card to my computer just in case. then i looked up ways to do backups and rom installs and many things led me to using rom manager. (i was already rooted and have the froyo leak from last year) first i tried the backup option in rom manager, after running it it did absolutely nothing, there were no options when i would go back to it and to the restore option. i figured aww whatever ill try this anyways. i downloaded the zip files for the roms placed them in the sd folder as update.zip or w.e. would open up into the download mode or whatever only to see no option to download the file.
i also tried installing cog 4.5 which was an option through rom manager and that did nothing as well. i eventually somehow messed my phone up where when i turned it on if i would press the app drawer it would pop up the menu, only like 5 apps would display, it would bounce up and down and i couldnt back out of it or click anything. when i could get it to the main screen i also couldnt do anything. i was able to go into task killer through the dropdown menu and navigate to stuff through there. again tried to do the restore in manager but nothing. so i just wiped every file on the phone and sd card and replaced it with the files i had saved earlier and have just been using it as that.
recently i found an article saying i need to flash back to the original then flash to gingerbread before i can do anything else. well before i wanted to mess with this i wanted to try to backup. read articles on nandroid backups and watched a how to vid. the article said to boot into clockwork recovery then click back up and yada yada. if the option was not there then to click reinstall packages. however everytime i click reinstall packages my phone fails and will not do it.
all in all i just need help backing up my phone as i have some apps and games and stuff i dont feel like starting over on (tho if i have to i guess i will ha)
after the backup i would then like to install cm7 or cog5 and if anyone feels those arent stable enough for normal use then whatever anyone suggests. im really horrible at messing around with these phones, probably shouldnt have been even trying but i get bored sometimes. main problem is just none of the options any video or guide states ever work when i actually do it with my phone or those options arent even available.
thanks in advance to everyone and try to make your responses as stupid as possible
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Ok. I don't even know if you can get there from where you are now, but the first step I'd recommend if you need to keep your app data is to get Titanium Backup (it's in the market). If you can get that running, do a backup (there's directions on how to do it in the stickies if you need it), and move that to a safe place (like your pc).
If you can connect via USB, you can always pull the clockworkrecovery.zip out of the AIO Captivate Toolbox, move it to your internal SD card, rename it update.zip, and then try to do the reinstall packages with that.
If you can't get there, and you don't have a good nandroid backup, you may (unfortunately) be out of luck with getting your saved data back. If you can't make a good backup, and you're still in froyo/eclair land (I'm guessing you are, since I believe that cog 4.5 is not gingerbread), you would probably be best off to use the Odin One-Click to Stock to put your phone at a nice clean place to start over.
After that, do a little reading and research, and find a ROM that you think looks like it will suit you well - it's going to be a matter of personal choice, so just read up. Once you find one that looks good, just read its directions on how you can install it.
Assuming all goes well, you'll be back up and running in no time. If you're luck, and Titanium Backup worked, you'll even be able to get your apps back.
If you have more questions, just post.
alright didnt know that
although i did say that i cant do that. when i go into recovery there is no option for backup and i cant get into clockwork recovery. the thread i read said if i cant then click reinstall packages and i should be able to however reinstall packages fails. the only options i get or to boot up, reinstall, clear cache, clear "something" and then another option though i dont quite remember both nothing is displayed that your telling me to click. thanks for the prompt response
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alright didnt know that
although i did say that i cant do that. when i go into recovery there is no option for backup and i cant get into clockwork recovery. the thread i read said if i cant then click reinstall packages and i should be able to however reinstall packages fails. the only options i get or to boot up, reinstall, clear cache, clear "something" and then another option though i dont quite remember both nothing is displayed that your telling me to click. thanks for the prompt response
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What does your recovery screen look like? Does it have a little gear icon as the background, or is it the Android guy with an exclamation point in a triangle?
jmtheiss said:
Ok. I don't even know if you can get there from where you are now, but the first step I'd recommend if you need to keep your app data is to get Titanium Backup (it's in the market). If you can get that running, do a backup (there's directions on how to do it in the stickies if you need it), and move that to a safe place (like your pc).
If you can connect via USB, you can always pull the clockworkrecovery.zip out of the AIO Captivate Toolbox, move it to your internal SD card, rename it update.zip, and then try to do the reinstall packages with that.
If you can't get there, and you don't have a good nandroid backup, you may (unfortunately) be out of luck with getting your saved data back. If you can't make a good backup, and you're still in froyo/eclair land (I'm guessing you are, since I believe that cog 4.5 is not gingerbread), you would probably be best off to use the Odin One-Click to Stock to put your phone at a nice clean place to start over.
After that, do a little reading and research, and find a ROM that you think looks like it will suit you well - it's going to be a matter of personal choice, so just read up. Once you find one that looks good, just read its directions on how you can install it.
Assuming all goes well, you'll be back up and running in no time. If you're luck, and Titanium Backup worked, you'll even be able to get your apps back.
If you have more questions, just post.
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i actually already have titanium. perhaps should have mentioned that lol. i just dont know too much about how it quite works. a while back i backed up apps and such and i can still do so now. so that program then saves everything on the sd card? once flashing to stock would i reinstall titanium and then it would be able to pull from these files on the sd card. also what would one have to back up in order to save games in emulators, do those saved games store on the emulator, in game file on the sd card or elsewhere? thanks for the post and the link for stock. assumed thats what id be doing just wanted to check on backing things up
jmtheiss said:
What does your recovery screen look like? Does it have a little gear icon as the background, or is it the Android guy with an exclamation point in a triangle?
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android guy with an exclamation point in a triangle
options are reboot system now
reinstall packages
delete all user data
delete cache data
format internal sd card
Delldorado said:
i actually already have titanium. perhaps should have mentioned that lol. i just dont know too much about how it quite works. a while back i backed up apps and such and i can still do so now. so that program then saves everything on the sd card? once flashing to stock would i reinstall titanium and then it would be able to pull from these files on the sd card. also what would one have to back up in order to save games in emulators, do those saved games store on the emulator, in game file on the sd card or elsewhere? thanks for the post and the link for stock. assumed thats what id be doing just wanted to check on backing things up
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That's good to hear. When you run a "backup all user apps" operation, it creates a folder called "Titaniumbackup" on your internal SD card. If you did a backup with TiBu before all of this happened (with your apps they way they were), and you've only added a little bit since then, just do a new "backup all user apps" batch operation, then move it to a safe place.
As far as everything else, you may have to do a little digging and move those files manually (if you have emulator saves and roms, you'll probably have to find where those are saved by yourself).
The recovery screen you're seeing is the stock Android recovery screen, meaning you don't have ClockworkMod Recovery (CWM) installed. Look in the dev section for the AIO Captivate Toolbox, download it, and then follow my directions above to get CWM installed. You can make a Nandroid backup from there.
At that point, you can clean your phone up (with the one-click to stock), and start over again with flashing.
jmtheiss said:
That's good to hear. When you run a "backup all user apps" operation, it creates a folder called "Titaniumbackup" on your internal SD card. If you did a backup with TiBu before all of this happened (with your apps they way they were), and you've only added a little bit since then, just do a new "backup all user apps" batch operation, then move it to a safe place.
As far as everything else, you may have to do a little digging and move those files manually (if you have emulator saves and roms, you'll probably have to find where those are saved by yourself).
The recovery screen you're seeing is the stock Android recovery screen, meaning you don't have ClockworkMod Recovery (CWM) installed. Look in the dev section for the AIO Captivate Toolbox, download it, and then follow my directions above to get CWM installed. You can make a Nandroid backup from there.
At that point, you can clean your phone up (with the one-click to stock), and start over again with flashing.
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well its been like half a year since ive backed anything up. would i still be able to do the backup all user apps when things are going wrong with it. that only backs up those apps not any of the rom or anythin so those wouldnt corrupt the fresh phone right?
as to the second part alright sounds good ill try that out and let you know how i fail some more thanks a lot
i see no backup all app data option titanium backup. lol told you im an idiot
Delldorado said:
well its been like half a year since ive backed anything up. would i still be able to do the backup all user apps when things are going wrong with it. that only backs up those apps not any of the rom or anythin so those wouldnt corrupt the fresh phone right?
as to the second part alright sounds good ill try that out and let you know how i fail some more thanks a lot
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In my experience, when Tibu does a backup, it will add any new applications/data to your existing backup, and overwrite existing backed up data to your backup. To be safe, just keep the backup you made a year and a half ago somewhere safe, and then run the batch operation on a separate copy on your phone. That way, at least one of the backups will be able to get you to where you want to be.
It only backs up applications and their associated data (e.g. Angry Birds + its scores) as long as you do the "backup all user apps" option. If you choose the "Backup all user apps + system data", you can get into some unsafe territory when it comes time to restore them.
Ultimately, if your applications right now are at a place where you are happy with them, just run the "backup all user apps" option, then move the titaniumbackup folder to a safe place.
Delldorado said:
i see no backup all app data option titanium backup. lol told you im an idiot
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No problem. Just go into Tibu, click the "backup/restore" button at the top, then click the menu key and select the "batch" option. The next screen that comes up should have an option that said "backup all user apps" - just click the Run button next to it and let it do its thing.
Ok you're on Froyo, right? That means you have the stock 3e recovery and need to use the search button and look for modded 3e recovery in the Captivate android development section, follow those steps. Then once you have that, go to Rom manager and flash CWM at the very top. Reboot to recovery backup!
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Ok you're on Froyo, right? That means you have the stock 3e recovery and need to use the search button and look for modded 3e recovery in the Captivate android development section, follow those steps. Then once you have that, go to Rom manager and flash CWM at the very top. Reboot to recovery backup!
Sent from my plain KF1 Gingerbread Captivate using the XDA Premium App.
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Thanks for catching that - I haven't been on stock Froyo, so I keep forgetting about that.
Here's the link
jmtheiss said:
No problem. Just go into Tibu, click the "backup/restore" button at the top, then click the menu key and select the "batch" option. The next screen that comes up should have an option that said "backup all user apps" - just click the Run button next to it and let it do its thing.
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backing up now. will move the folder over elsewhere, move pictures/vids over (im assuming this doesnt back those up) and then ill restore.
ill let you know how it goes if at all interested cuz im sure ill mess up somewhere again
Delldorado said:
backing up now. will move the folder over elsewhere, move pictures/vids over (im assuming this doesnt back those up) and then ill restore.
ill let you know how it goes if at all interested cuz im sure ill mess up somewhere again
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You are correct in assuming it doesn't back those up.
Just so you know, doing all this won't erase the files on your internal sd card unless you do a master clear somewhere along the way. That being said, backing up all your important information before doing any major phone changes is always a good idea.
umm little help in flashing odin. ive downloaded it, its open, i put my phone in download mode its connected by usb, clicked start and it seems to be stuck here:
<ID:0/009> Added!!
<OSM> Enter CS for MD5..
<OSM> Check MD5.. Do not unplug the cable..
<OSM> Please wait..
<OSM> Checking MD5 finished Sucessfully..
<OSM> Leave CS..
<ID:0/009> Odin v.3 engine (ID:9)..
<ID:0/009> File analysis..
<ID:0/009> SetupConnection..
is it done? i recall a long time ago when i flashed froyo i believe it said finish. do i still wait, is it not working, do i just do reboot system?
i was trying to flash this then was goin to do the whole thign with clockwork after. tho i also saw like cog has clockwork in the rom so i was going to root then put this on afterwards, reinstall titanium then reinstall by backup.
haha now i messed up. k got it stock. then got gingerbread. then started the root. did the first part but i didnt know i needed to put the 3 button fix on. so now my phone is stuck in a boot lupe with some dumb fugu fish or w.e. and i cant access download mode. computer wont recognize my phone to do anything like add in the fix or flash back. is there anything i can do without having to make a jig or whatever?
if you flashed the gingerbread bootloaders then you need to hold volume down and power to get into download mode.
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if you flashed the gingerbread bootloaders then you need to hold volume down and power to get into download mode.
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yeah i know that however it just does the att screen then it switches to the fugu fish then reboots to the att screen then fugu fish etc and so on. down and power doesnt work. down up and power doesnt work. nothing works lol
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Right so i've done something to my phone, i added that battery circle thing for the galaxy s but i think it didn't take, and now it just loads up into the phone and keeps turning the screen on and off like its trying to load but it never does. OBVIOUSLY i've done something terribly wrong all i want to do is jsut wipe everything and start again fresh so it works! is there anyway to do this through odin or something? help would be appreciated..
Seems like odin and download mode is my best bet but can anyone talk me through what i have to do? i dont care what i put on my phone, as long as it works. seems like a good time to update my firmware anyways.. Just help lol, s**tting bricks at the moment and the thought of having a nice expensive paper weight...
if you want to fix it with minimal work and risc you can just goto recovery and make a wipe data/factory reset.
if you want to upgrade the firmware while you are at it, read this. we can not explain the procedure for every noob user again and again! it's not that hard...if you have any specific problems, report back here.
i recommend XWJM2 or XWJM5 from here
Already tried the simple factory restore and it just does the same thing as when it was before i did. loads up and then when it starts to load the data and the status bar it stops and then screen turns off and then back on and tries again. and again and again lol. I understand that you cant explain again and again and thats why im looking for myself but thought it was worth asking anyways. I have a feeling that the uhh is it framework file? the file that does all the status bar and stuff has gone weird and that didn't didn't get restored to factory settings when i restored factory settings as each time the phone boots, it doesn't show the status bar before it retries. And since the metamorph and the super battery circle indicator mess around with it. im assuming its to do with that.
woot got the phone working with a flash of odin. weird thing is that all my original files such as my back ups and the lag fix are still there in my internal sd card but i have no idea if they're still working because my actual apps in my app drawer such as rom manager have gone. Any idea what i can do now lol? should i delete the files and such from the internal card such as the lag fix files and the backups since im on jm5 now rather than JF3 that i was on before all this happened.
i think it would have been possible to save your old "installation" but not to explain to you how
when you flash with odin, all settings and apps are deleted. what remains is the data they saved on the sdcard. you can delete it or leave it, as you wish . i don't know which of all the lag-fixes you had running but i's not "active" any more so you can delete the files made by it if you are sure you know what to delete
btw. if you did a nandroid backup you could restore it now so be sure to do one next time you try new stuff
I've been searching, and reading, and my eyes hurt. I normally don't like to post threads, but I'm left with no choice. If this topic has been covered, then I guess my searchin' skillz are stating to lack. Here is my delimna:
Rooted, Lagfix, enabled Side-loading, recently installed ClockworkMod, stock firmware. I ran a backup using ROM Manager/ClockworkMod. I was attempting to install the Mobile AP fix for WiFi Hotspotting from designgears. I downloaded the new kernel per instructions (Mobile AP ony). I first tried installing it using ROM Manager's boot option into Clockwork without renaming MobileAP.zip. Still received black screen when I open the Mobile AP settings that the new kernel was trying to fix. So I thought that the flash didn't work, so this time I renamed the kernel file to update.zip and did the standard method of flash using stock recovery mode.
Now the phone boots to the Galaxy S screen, then just a black screen. The bottom row buttons seem to be active, but nothing happens. Holding power....nothing. I have to pull the battery; however, I can boot into stock recovery.
Now here's the delimna. I can boot into recovery, but the update.zip file is NOT the one for ClockworkMod, its the modified kernel. Is there a way that I can browse the files on the phone so I can change the update.zip file? I want to put Clockwork's in place so I can restore using my backup made yesterday....It's not a huge order if I have to flashback to stock and lose everything as I usually do that everynow and again anyways (usually I'm prepared). I won't lose anything important that isn't already backed up except maybe some pictures....
BUT, I can't help but try. It's just me I like to break stuff and fix 'em. I want to try to run that backup I made. I have Odin, and I tried flashing the kernel back to stock (i had one hell of a time finding information on how to use it). As a matter of fact, I found instructions on HOW to use it, but I gave up trying to find useful information on how the program runs (like a user guide, what else can it do, that sort of thing....). I spent hours reading thread after thread........information overload I guess.
I figured someone might point me in the right direction. How can I browse/edit the contents of the phone while in Recovery or Download mode?
You could try letting the phone boot up, yes I know it's only a black screen, then plug in the usb to your PC and see if ADB works.
If so then just adb shell into it and work with command line.
I'm not sure if ADB would work in stock recovery mode but that's worth a shot too.
Excellent idea, but no luck. I can get the computer to recognize the phone in recovery mode, but ADB shows the device offline, and Windows Explorer shows 2 drives with the whole "insert disk into drive ..." message. Can't boot phone to enable "development mode", that might have something to do with it......unless I'm missing something?
swedishcancerboi said:
Excellent idea, but no luck. I can get the computer to recognize the phone in recovery mode, but ADB shows the device offline, and Windows Explorer shows 2 drives with the whole "insert disk into drive ..." message. Can't boot phone to enable "development mode", that might have something to do with it......unless I'm missing something?
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Wasn't sure if that would work or not.
So, if you turn it on and just let it sit as long as a normal boot, then try adb does anything work?
I actually let it sit for ~15 minutes. computer doesn't even register the usb being plugged in. I'm going to give it another go or two, but in about an hour I'm going to have to call it quits and just flash it with Odin. Don't want to give up yet, but I am driving out of town later this afternoon and must have my phone for the trip. Maybe I'll break it again tomorrow and play with it over the weekend!
Let me know if you have any other ideas. I'll let you know when I give up.
While on that subject (watch someone tell me to move my post after this.....), maybe I'll experiment with a new ROM. Any recommendations? (without OC, device is fast enough). I haven't read much on the different flavors available at the moment (I think I read something about a 2.2 from I9000 or something?).
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While on that subject (watch someone tell me to move my post after this.....), maybe I'll experiment with a new ROM. Any recommendations? (without OC, device is fast enough). I haven't read much on the different flavors available at the moment (I think I read something about a 2.2 from I9000 or something?).
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Hybrid from eugene is pretty fast especially if you add the voodoo kernel to it. Thats what I heard tho. Because when i tried it out it was pretty quick with out a lagfix and without autokiller. Only used it for 20 min tho as i couldn't get Titanium backup to work. I think the titanium problem is a hit or a miss.
well, I guess I'm going to have to load stock and wipe everything...oh well. Let's see how this goes. Then I'll start playing with ROMs this weekend. Thanks anyway!
swedishcancerboi said:
well, I guess I'm going to have to load stock and wipe everything...oh well. Let's see how this goes. Then I'll start playing with ROMs this weekend. Thanks anyway!
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Well, if your going to do that take an extra 2 minutes and load Eugenes Hybrid R3 while your at it. It's extremely easy to do and in my opinion the fastest thing we can put on these phones right now.
Vibrant ROM? is that safe? I mean, I know they are all Galaxy S, but is the hardware really that identical?
I don't think eugenes captivate hybrid is actually a vibrant rom. I think he just borrowed some of the better parts.
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Got it! I used the one click stock down loader to get the phone to boot. I then noticed that many of my files were still there, music, zips.....so I thought....maybe my backup is still there.
Instead of using my original root, I decided to try Unleash the Beast.applied it so I could load Rom Manager.i opened Rom manager and it showed my backup!
I tried restoring then without success (no update.zip) and had to flash clockwork (even though it showed it already loaded, guess it needed to be refreshed, makes sense since it is a fresh firmware), selected my restore and it ran like a charm.
I am just surprised. I thought the act of flashing the Rom would wipe everything. Apparently not if you never do the "master clear."
Thankfully I had just installed Rom Manager the day before and had a fresh backup. Looks liked I'm gonna have to start shelling out more beer money to the devs!
Now I can prepare to break it again and again. Let the fun begin!
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Nice. Yeah, stuff you have stored on your "internal SD" is safe between flashes. Of course apps, contacts, etc get wiped, but that's an easy fix.
"the more you know," eh? Ha!
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After waiting for the official AT&T froyo release with the captivate, I decided to just go ahead and flash a froyo ROM. I've decided to flash the axura ROM first since i heard good things about it.
So while I'm finishing charging my phone before the flashing, is there anything I need to keep note of before flashing so that I can prevent bricking my phone? I've read up on the forums and watched the video from connexion2005 from the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867153.
Its pretty scary since I'm not much of a tech savy guy and this is my first android phone. Any help and suggestions will be appreciated.
agegsg said:
After waiting for the official AT&T froyo release with the captivate, I decided to just go ahead and flash a froyo ROM. I've decided to flash the axura ROM first since i heard good things about it.
So while I'm finishing charging my phone before the flashing, is there anything I need to keep note of before flashing so that I can prevent bricking my phone? I've read up on the forums and watched the video from connexion2005 from the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867153.
Its pretty scary since I'm not much of a tech savy guy and this is my first android phone. Any help and suggestions will be appreciated.
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Backup all your apps and data with Titanium Backup. Make sure your battery is fully charged, and removing your sim and SD cards are good practice.
Have fun! You won't go back.
- Backup all your files and make a nandroid backup!
- Get Odin3 One-Click and drivers to get your phone back to stock in case you brick it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
- There may be additional precautions you can take, so read through related threads on xda.
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After waiting for the official AT&T froyo release with the captivate, I decided to just go ahead and flash a froyo ROM. I've decided to flash the axura ROM first since i heard good things about it.
So while I'm finishing charging my phone before the flashing, is there anything I need to keep note of before flashing so that I can prevent bricking my phone? I've read up on the forums and watched the video from connexion2005 from the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867153.
Its pretty scary since I'm not much of a tech savy guy and this is my first android phone. Any help and suggestions will be appreciated.
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If you've read as much as you claim to have read, then you're probably in good shape. It's really not an unsafe process as long as you have some idea of what you're doing. I was very nervous about it myself the first time, but since then I've probably flashed 20 roms without a problem.
A couple of things that I would tell you, if you aren't already aware:
1. MAKE SURE that BEFORE you flash, you can get into download mode from the phone being off using one of the methods. I'm sure you've seen the one-click flash back to JF6 (stock) that was posted - download that if you haven't. For me, removing the battery, sim, and ext sd, replacing the battery, and holding down both volume buttons while plugging in the USB works really well - just make sure Odin is running before you do that. If you do manage to brick it, you will want to be able to get to download mode and flash back to stock.
2. After moving to a custom rom, it is best to always flash back to stock before flashing a different rom; you can avoid a lot of potential problems this way.
3. After rooting your phone, backup the update.zip in /sdcard/ on your computer. Any time you flash back to stock, you can reinstall CWM really easily by just putting that update.zip back in /sdcard/ and choosing "reinstall packages" from the recovery menu again. Sometimes you may have to do it twice before it enters CWM.
4. OCLF in the market is, to me, the easiest and quickest way to root your phone, but the one click root method isn't much worse. Just a matter of preference, I guess.
Good luck! Come back if you have any problems.
EDIT: apparently two people replied while I was typing my response lol! But what they said is very good as well.
Thank you for all your help. One quick question though, do I need the android ID changer?
the biggest mistake people make is not making sure they have the button combinations to enter recovery or download. (download = hold both volume buttons own and plugging usb cable in; recovery = hold volume buttons down, then holding power until AT&T screen pops up, letting go of power but still holding both volume buttons) if either of these don't work, you must, before doing ANYTHING else, flash the stock odin one click with the button fixes; it is posted somewhere in the development forum. and no you shouldn't need the android id changer unless you want to keep the android id that your phone came with. then open the changer and click save id and flash your rom of choice. most custom roms have a script to automatically load a saved id or randomly generate one if there wasn't a saved one. good luck in all your flashing endeavors!
edit: also as bodaciousdrake mentioned previously about cwm recovery, you should always keep the update.zip that contains cwm recovery on your sd card and you'll never need to change that to something else because using cwm recovery you can flash any .zip file that you want and it does not need to be named update.zip.
Take out the external SD card before you accidently delete 10 GB of music you had just perfected the selection of. (not that I accidently did that... lol)
mindbullet said:
Take out the external SD card before you accidently delete 10 GB of music you had just perfected the selection of. (not that I accidently did that... lol)
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lol oops! Did that happen with a master clear, or when you flashed the rom? I have forgotten to take out the sim/ext sd once or twice but I have never had a problem...yet.
agegsg said:
Thank you for all your help. One quick question though, do I need the android ID changer?
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Yes, you need it. Download it from the market, while on 2.1, and save your id onto your sd card. After you are on 2.2, choose Load id and it will automatically reboot.
majinzen said:
Yes, you need it. Download it from the market, while on 2.1, and save your id onto your sd card. After you are on 2.2, choose Load id and it will automatically reboot.
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What exactly is the point in saving the phone id? Sorry I'm kinda a noobie at this and looking up things about phone id, it seems like it just is an identifier for the phone but doesn't really provide anything.
Also, how do I get out of download mode? I've put it in download mode to make sure it works and it seem I can't get out of it... I've done the 2 volume bottons with the usb cord.
there's another thread in this forum that answers that question perfectly. also to exit download mode you need to pull the battery out.
slifer315 said:
there's another thread in this forum that answers that question perfectly. also to exit download mode you need to pull the battery out.
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Really? just take the battery out?
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What exactly is the point in saving the phone id? Sorry I'm kinda a noobie at this and looking up things about phone id, it seems like it just is an identifier for the phone but doesn't really provide anything.
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Basically, a lot of 2.2 Roms come with the same android id, 977blah... If you don't want market issues later I would suggest that you put in your original 2.1 android id. You can always search more if that answer isn't sufficient. And yes, do a battery pull to get out of download mode.
I've master cleared but can't seem to root. Every time I try with the one click root, and I go to recovery, it said it can't find the update.zip from the /sdcard/
yep, just pull the battery. also you don't need to root to flash roms. just grab the update.zip containing clockwordmod recovery from the thread in the development forum, put it on your sd card, boot to recovery and select reinstall pacakges. after that, reboot the phone (you might have to reinstall packages again) then you'll be ib clockwordmod recovery and you'll be able to flash any rom you want without having to change the filename.
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I've master cleared but can't seem to root. Every time I try with the one click root, and I go to recovery, it said it can't find the update.zip from the /sdcard/
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For some reason I got this too the first few times I tried to root. I then noticed that in the cmd prompt, for a split second it said failed to push update.zip or something due to privileges.
How I fixed it was ran the one-click root on windows in admin mode. It worked after that.
Thanks guys for all your help. I got it to flash the ROM and it seems I haven't bricked my phone
Thanks again
Before you tell me to 'Google it' (which I have, and leads me to 1000 posts of people telling other people with the same problem to 'Google it'), please read.
I will PayPal anyone $20 with working instructions of how to resolve this
Phone: HTC Hero w/ chin
Carrier: Alltel
Story:
Switched from WM6 Palm Treo Pro to HTC Hero. Came with 2.1 and needed apps2sd. Want CM7 stable.
-Rooted using AndRoot.
-Installed SuperUser and Root Checker. Root Checker said I was good to go. SuperUser would not show any apps in the list this whole time.
-Installed Titanium Backup which said I needed BusyBox, but it would fail to install. Tried to install busybox and it said I was not rooted. Alright...
-Installed ClockworkMod and flashed recovery. Tried to reboot into clockwork recovery, but when I clicked it, it did nothing. When I clicked rom from sd card, and clicked the CM7, it said 'going to reboot now' but again, nothing happened.
I booted into recovery manually, but it was still in Android system recovery. Apparently there was some sort of rooting problem, so I tried z4root. Permanent root was stuck on 'rebooting', and temporary root said successful, but something was still wrong as BusyBox installer would say I was not rooted, and SuperUser app didn't show any programs to allow permissions.
I turned the phone off, and back on. It goes to the white 'HTC' screen, reboots, and then comes to a black page with a picture of a Hero and a red triangle and exclamation mark. I hold home and hit power, and it takes me into the Android system recovery. I wiped data and cleared cache, rebooted, and it does the same thing.
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Now i've done many hours of research, and found nothing to help me. I guess i'm a bit confused on what the SDK does and how to use it, because it won't connect to my phone since I can't even boot my phone into the OS. I tried to download the RUU and rename it update.zip, but it says signature verification failed or not found in android recovery. I've done the clear data method by holding home, back, and power, but still nothing.
I need a clearcut answer for getting back to a stock Alltel 2.1 OS on my phone. I am more advanced than a basic user, and have flashed many roms on Windows Mobile, but remember I might not exactly understand everything.
I'm a silent browser on these forums but now I come to you guys for help. I hope to grow into a dev and hopefully help someone in the future in my position.
I read somewhere to wipe EXT2, but still confused on that process as it seems I don't know how to get into adb command line on my computer.
Try reflashing the cwm recovery. Sounds like you have no recovery image.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
Dumb question...did you flash a ROM? Maybe I missed it in your post, but I see you installed Clockwork, SuperUser and all that, but don't see that you flashed a ROM. *EDIT* I see you did...
So...worst case scenario, if you can't even boot your phone, just start over from scratch...
Download the original AllTel ROM from here.
If you don't have HTC Sync set up and can't restore from your computer, use this method to flash it...your phone should now boot...
Then try to reroot, using this (preferred) or this.
Download ROM Manager from the Market and install ClockworkMod Recovery
Boot to recovery (hold home and power at the same time).
Once in recovery, wipe cache, system, data and boot (make sure you don't wipe your sd card! Do it twice for good measure)
Select install .zip from SD card, select zip and you should be good to go with a rooted phone and a new ROM.
I think that should cover it...
Ok, on your first link to flash my phone, the step says:
"With phone powered on, do "adb reboot bootloader" to enter fastboot."
How do I get the command prompt on my computer to communicate with the phone? That was my biggest problem when reading other people's posts. I guess i'm a bit lost. I installed the r10 android sdk which I believe is the first step? And when my phone is connected to the computer to enter these commands, is it okay if it is sitting at that screen with the red triangle?
Thanks for your help btw your steps sound simple, and simple is nice. One step closer!
Do you have HTC Sync set up? If you do, you should be able to restore from that to get you back to official AllTel...That's going to be the easiest way to get you back to stock I think.
And...I am on a Mac So, helping someone on a PC is not my forte with ADB
I'd try setting up HTC Sync and get yourself back to stock that way.
EDIT - To get it to communicate, you need to set up ADB and all that. Then just use command prompts...Try this thread for help/instructions.
I actually got it to load that rom with vol down + power but eventually got to 'CID incorrect! Update fail!', so i'll try connecting to sync.
damienisxcore said:
I actually got it to load that rom with vol down + power but eventually got to 'CID incorrect! Update fail!', so i'll try connecting to sync.
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What ROM? The AllTel one?
I have to take off until about 8:30 or so...get yourself set up with HTC Sync and get the USB drivers and all that set up, first thing you need to do is get your computer to talk to your phone...download the official AllTel RUU and restore to stock. That's task 1
Then we'll get ya rooted
I think I found a rom that worked. Currently rebooting. I can follow the rest and if I need anymore help, I'll give you a hollar. I should have had it right the first time, but I was following about 5 sets of different directions and mixing them around to avoid certain programs. I like yours though.
Send me a PM with your paypal e-mail and I can send it over. Least I could do.
OP, glad you got it. What rom?
Ranger, nice!
sent from a series of tubes.
il Duce said:
OP, glad you got it. What rom?
Ranger, nice!
sent from a series of tubes.
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He flashed CM7. Gotta get him on aospCMod
damienisxcore said:
I think I found a rom that worked. Currently rebooting. I can follow the rest and if I need anymore help, I'll give you a hollar. I should have had it right the first time, but I was following about 5 sets of different directions and mixing them around to avoid certain programs. I like yours though.
Send me a PM with your paypal e-mail and I can send it over. Least I could do.
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It's tough sometimes to follow things...and as much as we always tell people to search, ya know, the search kinda sucks I searched for all the threads I linked for you, but I knew what I was looking for. If you don't know what to look for, searching is kinda tough. Glad you got it!
Now...if you want a real ROM, I'll just toss this one out there In all actuality, CM7 and aospCMod are quite similar, I am just partial to aosp's builds.
Let me know if you need any more help.
Coming from an iPhone I'm used to connecting the phone to iTunes via USB, downloading a fresh version of the OS and restoring the phone. Then I have the option of setting up as new or restoring a backup.
I would like to know if there's a way to do something like that with my Note 8. I realize I can reset everything from within the settings app but I would like to wipe it clean and install a fresh copy of Nougat 7.1.1.
Is this possible? Also just in case it comes up I'm not interested in rooting at this point in time.
Thanks!!
rocknblogger said:
Coming from an iPhone I'm used to connecting the phone to iTunes via USB, downloading a fresh version of the OS and restoring the phone. Then I have the option of setting up as new or restoring a backup.
I would like to know if there's a way to do something like that with my Note 8. I realize I can reset everything from within the settings app but I would like to wipe it clean and install a fresh copy of Nougat 7.1.1.
Is this possible? Also just in case it comes up I'm not interested in rooting at this point in time.
Thanks!!
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Pretty sure there is a ton of posts on here discussing Odin and what it is used for, as well if you look under guides I have posted the stock firmware and links to odin.
Go here for that stuff: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sp...stock-restore-odin-recovery-software-t3668888
Basics : Odin is like ITunes , you select the firmware to install to the device and push it to phone, it wipes phone and installs the software selected.
There are only a few limitations of ODIN, that being that if the firmware is set to Anti-Rollback you can not go back to any version older then the 1st revision of that rollback version.
Example : N950USQU1AQI5 This is the latest version for sprint currently there are 3 parts of this explained below.
The QI5 is the version identifier.
N950U is the variant the software is designed to be used with.
The number 5 spots from the end determines the bootloader revison and will be the Anti-rollback version. All versions matching that number can be flashed without bias, so any version labeled ( 1 ) can be flashed to the note.
Now hypothetically if this was the software that comes next: N950USQU2AQL9
Once you were to install this version you could NEVER flash anything lower then ( 2 ) to the device, the bootloader on the phone will refuse it and tell you the version is older and will not install.
Thank you for the detailed reply. Your right in that I've seen a lot about Odin. What I'm somewhat concerned about is that whatever I've managed to find and read about doing this is that it will void the warranty? Is this accurate or am I misunderstood something?
Also, the reason I wanted to do this is because something screwed things up after I moved apps to the SD card. And yes I moved them using the built-in settings app. So obviously I was only able to move apps that the OS allowed me to. Basically even though it showed that the apps were on the external storage they just disappeared. If I tried to reinstall Google Play would immediately crash.
So my thought was that if I did a clean install it would wipe out any crud that might be left behind by doing a hard reset built into the phone. Am I completely wrong about this or is it possible some stuff might be left behind?
Thanks again for taking the time to post your reply.
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Thank you for the detailed reply. Your right in that I've seen a lot about Odin. What I'm somewhat concerned about is that whatever I've managed to find and read about doing this is that it will void the warranty? Is this accurate or am I misunderstood something?
Also, the reason I wanted to do this is because something screwed things up after I moved apps to the SD card. And yes I moved them using the built-in settings app. So obviously I was only able to move apps that the OS allowed me to. Basically even though it showed that the apps were on the external storage they just disappeared. If I tried to reinstall Google Play would immediately crash.
So my thought was that if I did a clean install it would wipe out any crud that might be left behind by doing a hard reset built into the phone. Am I completely wrong about this or is it possible some stuff might be left behind?
Thanks again for taking the time to post your reply.
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Odin does NOT effect the warranty bit, even with the new root method the Knox warranty status does not get effected.
I actually had mine rooted, some pixels in my screen were messed up ( not related to root ) used ODIN to go back to stock and sent it in to Samsung for a warranty repair and it was approved, fixed and sent back for free so no fret.
The warranty status shows up when you put your phone into Download mode ( Holding Bixby + Volume Down and power button together during a boot up ) It shows warranty bit 00x00
If it were to effect it the status would go to 00X01 and so on as you continue to modify things. The status only changes if the phone is compromised with custom boot files witch we do not have access to due to having the bootloader locked.
This is a routine process to recover the phone if it wouldn't boot,
furthermore you can essentially do the same procedure using Samsung smart switch on desktop, but i'm not fluent with using it as ODIN is a better method and more robust and less dumb ware.
as for moving apps to sd, you could also try deleting them off the sd, or possible that the sd card is messing up and not fast enough for the device to read and run those apps so if you redo and it happens again id avoid putting them on sd if you can.
hope this helps. No fret on using odin, just take your time and pay attention to the options you use. Do not confuse NAND ERASE ALL ( that is the same has a hard reset) with ERASE EFS ( this deletes the serial number and should never be done! )
Again, thank you so much for the detailed reply. Just one more thing. Can you please supply me a link to the correct stock ROM. I apologise for all the noob questions but it's been more than 7 years since I've messed with Android. Some of the links I found took me to download did where I had to pay or else the fire was too big for free.
I believe this is the exact one I need for my Sprint Note 8
N950USQU1AQI5. This is what I have on my phone now.
As for the SD card issue there were just a few apps I found. The others just seemed to disappear. In any case I bought a new 256GB U3 card by Samsung so there should be no questions now on whether it's too slow or bad. I moved a couple apps and so far so good.
Thanks again and best regards!!
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Again, thank you so much for the detailed reply. Just one more thing. Can you please supply me a link to the correct stock ROM. I apologise for all the noob questions but it's been more than 7 years since I've messed with Android. Some of the links I found took me to download did where I had to pay or else the fire was too big for free.
I believe this is the exact one I need for my Sprint Note 8
N950USQU1AQI5. This is what I have on my phone now.
As for the SD card issue there were just a few apps I found. The others just seemed to disappear. In any case I bought a new 256GB U3 card by Samsung so there should be no questions now on whether it's too slow or bad. I moved a couple apps and so far so good.
Thanks again and best regards!!
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The 1st link I sent you at top is the link to find most current firmware for the Sprint note 8. QI5 is the latest as of today. The one you posted is the correct one. The post also has Odin available to dl as well.
But here is the direct link to QI5: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745849072291677290
Pretty much with Odin
Take the firmware zip and unzip it.
Then put phone into dl mode as explained above holding power, volm down and bixby. Once on green screen click up to start dl mode and it's ready.
Side note:
That key combo is also soft reset. Holding vol up instead would bring you to recovery where you can do a full hard reset as well. If you accidentaly get into dl mode trying to soft reset because phone got frozen just soft reset out of it and you'll be back to booting up as normal.
Plug phone in and open Odin.
Odin should show the phone and it's com port once driver on pc have installed.
Click each box ( bl, ap, cp, csc) and select the matching files.
The csc you'll use is the one with OYN in it's name.
Under options have f.reset time.. auto reboot and nand erase all checked. Nothing else. Again I say nand erase all.. remember what I said about the efs one and never checking it....
Once each loads up.. ( ap will take forever it will act like it has gotten stuck and may show it's not responding ) this is normal just wait it out as it's a huge package being loaded...
Click start and drink a coffee..
Once done, it will auto reboot, wipe and then boot up
Re setup and test. Just be aware all data on device will be gone.
Otherwise you will be good to go!
I added to generic photos of what it looks like when phone is connected and com port is showing up. As well what options are to be selected. I put a big pointing finger to the correct erase all option as well lol
Thank you for all the detailed replies!!! You rock dude. Things are slowly coming back to me. The EVO 4G was the last Android phone I had before jumping to iPhone. I used to install different ROMs almost weekly and tried all sorts of stuff back then. Had no fear
I guess after being away for so long it just takes time and reading through all the different threads.
Thanks again!!!
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Plug phone in and open Odin.
Odin should show the phone and it's com port once driver on pc have installed.
Click each box ( bl, ap, cp, csc) and select the matching files.
The csc you'll use is the one with OYN in it's name.
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Okay so I was all set to do this but when I unzipped the firmware.zip and there are more files in there that I'm not sure what to do with.
First there are 2 CSC files and both have OYN in the name.
First one is : CSC_OYN_N950UOYN1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
Second is: HOME_CSC_OYN_N950UOYN1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
There's also a file called USERDATA_SPR_N950USQU1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
Is there anything I need to do with this particular file?
Also all the files are xxx.tar.MD5. Am I right in guessing that Odin with verify the MD5 checksum?
Thanks again!!!
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Okay so I was all set to do this but when I unzipped the firmware.zip and there are more files in there that I'm not sure what to do with.
First there are 2 CSC files and both have OYN in the name.
First one is : CSC_OYN_N950UOYN1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
Second is: HOME_CSC_OYN_N950UOYN1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
There's also a file called USERDATA_SPR_N950USQU1AQI5_CL12173876_QB14907525_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar
Is there anything I need to do with this particular file?
Also all the files are xxx.tar.MD5. Am I right in guessing that Odin with verify the MD5 checksum?
Thanks again!!!
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use the CSY OYN, i touched this in a earlier response, and dont worry about the user data one and yes they are verified by md5 before a push occurs, this can be turned off in odin if you wanted and skip md5 verification.
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use the CSY OYN, i touched this in a earlier response, and dont worry about the user data one and yes they are verified by md5 before a push occurs, this can be turned off in odin if you wanted and skip md5 verification.
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Once again...thank you!!!
If you don't mind I have a question about restoring from backup. If I backup to Samsung cloud then it will restore the apps that I currently have installed, is that correct?
If I backup to Google and then restore from Google backup it will only restore data and if I install an app that I had prior to the wipe/restore it will then restore the data for that particular app. Is that correct?
Also is it possible to choose which apps to restore if I restore from Samsung backup?
Thanks again!!