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[Think Tank] Game Emulator Controller solutions Wii or otherwise

OK, granted I don't know much but maybe this thread can group peoples Ideas on a suitable controller for the captivate.
I know the WII Controller app currently doesn't work for us, but we do see that the controller hardware does offer the opportunity to pair with the phone over bluetooth.
I guess the first step is to successfully get the pairing, is this possible somehow? would a successful password hack make it happen?
I guess second would be to have it recognize buttons in a keyboard fashion to work with most emulators.
I know the developer of the existing wii controller app has said we probably get his app working, and I don't blame hime for not trying to get every phone to work, but i feel there is enough talent here to maybe get our own solution?
Or, if anyone actually has a better solution to the hope for an external controller, please help us all!

Wait the WII app does not work for us? I was about to hit BB :-(

Unfortunately the test app didn't work for me, and the developer has the captivate on the list of phones that currently are not compatible and most likely will not be compatible in the future with his software.

Ouch :-(
Not good news but better than me buying the wiimote for nothing.
I am assume is a matter of time before someone comes up with one anyway

Has anybody tried pairing a Playstation 3 controller with the phone? PS3 + HDMI via USB cable would make a great portable gaming console for when out of town at family, etc.
I'd definately contribute cash towards getting a working driver if needed.
EDIT: Also, MSI has a bluetooth gamepad that works with the phone. Google MSI BGP100. My biggest complaint/concern is that the controller doesn't seem to be designed to accommodate a phone in landscape mode, so that's a bit of a drawn back for playing games on the go (as opposed to hooking it up to a TV or monitor, where it wouldn't be an issue).

I actually emailed the dev about future compatibility for our phones, he said it's samsungs proprietary bluetooth drivers that are incompatible with the wiimote.
If we were to flash a vanilla android rom or something, it would work just fine.
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EDIT:
"Hello,
thank you for your question.
You're right about the frequency of these kind of requests. Newer Samsung phones unfortunately use proprietary bluetooth stacks (developed by Samsung) instead of the default that is in Android, named Bluez. That proprietary stack doesn't support the type of connection that wiimotes need to connect.
So, the only way currently for you to have this app working is if you get rid of that bluetooth stack. If you want to, you can root and flash your phone with a custom ROM. "Vanilla" ROMs have had success with other non-compatible phones in the past. Vanilla just means a type of ROM that is made from code that originates directly from Google, not from Samsung. One known creator of good quality vanilla ROM is cyanogen from xda-developers.com, but I don't believe his ROMs can run on the Galaxy (yet).
A friendly word of caution: rooting and flashing probably voids your phone's warranty and you also loose all the data (like contacts, app settings, etc) so MAKE BACKUPS before doing anything.
Best regards,
Piki"

This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!

Amen brother
wakeupkeo said:
This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
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Ooohhh you guys see this?
Making a Nintendo SNES controller into bluetooth; using an MSI BGP100
If the MSI BGP100 works for us then I am going to do this!

wakeupkeo said:
This is awesome news. I am rooted and ready, and now patiently awaiting CM6 to get everything up and running! Thanks for the posts!
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Please dont hold your breath, you'll be bluer than a smurf. There is nobody working on a CM6 version for the Captivate. Only the Vibrant.

wakeupkeo said:
Ooohhh you guys see this?
Making a Nintendo SNES controller into bluetooth; using an MSI BGP100
If the MSI BGP100 works for us then I am going to do this!
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So has anybody confirmed if this works or not with the Captivate?
I'm thinking since the wiimote wont work via bluetooth, no bluetooth gamepad will work.

Has anyone ever tried interfacing a standard controller through the microUSB port? Or custom building such a device?

derek4484 said:
So has anybody confirmed if this works or not with the Captivate?
I'm thinking since the wiimote wont work via bluetooth, no bluetooth gamepad will work.
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It depends on the drivers otherwise no bluetooth device will be able to connect...at least that is how I see it.

no that the psx emulator is out and resedent evil 3 works perfectly, i would like to see some kind of gamepad, sucks theres no way to use a controller.. , is there even anyone working on getting this done???

Just wondering if any updates have been made on any controllers working on the captivate? Still no WiiMote connectivity, havent tried to connect anything through the micro usb. If anybody knows of a way to control emulators for the Samsung Captivate, Let us all know!

Sublim3_Tilt said:
Just wondering if any updates have been made on any controllers working on the captivate? Still no WiiMote connectivity, havent tried to connect anything through the micro usb. If anybody knows of a way to control emulators for the Samsung Captivate, Let us all know!
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derek4484 said:
Please dont hold your breath, you'll be bluer than a smurf. There is nobody working on a CM6 version for the Captivate. Only the Vibrant.
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vibrant roms work with a few known and easily fixed issues with button logic. there may be other issues i cant remember but it is doable. as long as the vibrant is getting attention it should be enough.

Actually, hold your breath...
The Cog Rom has been using the original bluez stack protocol needed, and I am hopeful of compatibility soon...
Nothing seems to work still yet for the wii controller apps yet, but I haven't tried again in the last couple versions.
At least it seems we are headed in the right direction!

wakeupkeo said:
Actually, hold your breath...
The Cog Rom has been using the original bluez stack protocol needed, and I am hopeful of compatibility soon...
Nothing seems to work still yet for the wii controller apps yet, but I haven't tried again in the last couple versions.
At least it seems we are headed in the right direction!
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Wouldn't be too sure about that since he removed bluez after version 5 saying it caused more trouble than it was worth. It would seem the only hope we have now is for gdanko's aosp froyo. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815420&page=18

Indeed it seems aosp is a gamer's only hope for our beloved captivate... we need the non samsung proprietary Bluetooth stack.
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[Q] Wiimote Controller on Tab?

Please forgive my ignorance, I'm completely new to the Android world. Has anyone been able to root a tab to allow Wii controller access?
Searched multiple forums but could not find a definitive answer.
Thanks!

I've rooted mine, and actually thought about trying the wiimote app again. (I used it on my Nexus 1)
I'll give it a shot...

It doesn't work. I'm guessing for the same reason the Galaxy S phones won't work with it either, the bluetooth isn't compatible.

I confirm also that it doesn't work. I've tried 2 different wii controller apps. And my galaxy is rooted. It just won't sync.

Yeah I tried em both also. I'm sure the BT hardware is the same on the Tab and the SGS phones, and they don't work either. I was very disapointed when I couldn't use this after switching from my N1 to my Captivate.

10-4 thanks for giving it a shot.

One of the developers of one of the apps says it's to do with TouchWiz. Sounds more likely to be a software issue than a hardware blutooth issue, which means it could be fixed or hacked Hope!

similar issues on my T-Mobile tablet; I tried to connect a Wii controller to my tab and the wiimote app keeps telling me to enable bluetooth.

i can confirm it works well on archos 101 but not on tmo gtab

im hoping they patch this im looking forward to using it for gaming

kitzuki said:
im hoping they patch this im looking forward to using it for gaming
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Me to, with a hdmi out cable and a couple of wii controllers. The tab could be a neat little mini mobile gaming system. Hopefully with 2.3 or 3.0 we'll get that support. But then again I don't even know if the hardware can support a wiimote.
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Any news on this? I was really hoping to play mario on my galaxy tab? : (
Anyone know of any other controller for android?

I also still waiting on some news.
Having brought Snes,Nes,Gba, psx emulators on my tab I dieing for some news.

I thought is was do to with the bluetooth stack used by Sammy?

Yes, I believe you are right about the bluetooth stack. I think our most likely option right now is to wait for the cyanogen roms to be completed for our tabs.
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Lucky_Charms said:
Yes, I believe you are right about the bluetooth stack. I think our most likely option right now is to wait for the cyanogen roms to be completed for our tabs.
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I wonder if it's possible to change the one that's used in a stock ROM...
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Would like this to happen also.

I poked around with the Wiimote and the Tab last night and it looks like L2CAP support is needed in the kernel before this will work. I haven't built a kernel for an android device yet, so I'll leave it to the chefs to build it in.

agentdr8 said:
I poked around with the Wiimote and the Tab last night and it looks like L2CAP support is needed in the kernel before this will work. I haven't built a kernel for an android device yet, so I'll leave it to the chefs to build it in.
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Feed your research back to the clever people though.
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TheGrammarFreak said:
Feed your research back to the clever people though.
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Yes Please do!
I hope we can alter what ever needs to be altered in order to uses a WiiMote with the Samsung Tab.
Seeing that the Dell streak 7 doesn't have Hdmi out, this tablet still really is my only chance of having real Gaming emulation on the go without adding much bulk!

[Q] Netflix possible on Hero?

I'm not requesting this or anything; I'm just curious. Would it be possible to make Netflix work on our phone? Or what is it about our phones that makes it not work?
Thanks.

Whoa. Is netflix even on the android yet? Because that would be sweet.

Yeah it is, you can find the apk on XDA, but videos won't play on the Hero...you can browse the instant play queue, but that's it. I am trying a few of the widely talked about edits to spoof it into playing but no go on the Hero yet.
Tried:
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.manufacturer=HTC
and
ro.product.model=Nexus S
ro.product.manufacturer=samsung
Neither worked for me...I get to where the video will appear to be loading, then the app kicks back to the main screen.

you would need flash 10 for netflix to dont u or do they have it mobile formated now.

I believe it's mobile formatted...it plays fine on my iPod Touch...

ranger61878 said:
Yeah it is, you can find the apk on XDA, but videos won't play on the Hero...you can browse the instant play queue, but that's it. I am trying a few of the widely talked about edits to spoof it into playing but no go on the Hero yet.
Tried:
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.manufacturer=HTC
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ro.product.model=Nexus S
ro.product.manufacturer=samsung
Neither worked for me...I get to where the video will appear to be loading, then the app kicks back to the main screen.
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That's what I was thinking about trying too. I'm thinking the app itself needs to be changed somehow, but I'm a newb so it's just a guess. I don't know if it's even possible to do that.
Sent from my Hero running aosp Froyo.

just becarefull when your modding apks because everyone got into trouble for fixing angry birds awhile back my suggestion is if you get it working keep it for yourself. and dont distrebute it on xda.

anbody try: model = Nexus One?

Yeah Nexus One has been tried...not by me, but others who haven't been able to get it working.

Bierce22 said:
just becarefull when your modding apks because everyone got into trouble for fixing angry birds awhile back my suggestion is if you get it working keep it for yourself. and dont distrebute it on xda.
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I hope we won't get into trouble. I would imagine they would praise the mod since it'll allow pre-existing customers to access their paid service account.

Just tried this, didn't work. Even got rid of at least some of the heroc's.
http://androidforums.com/lg-optimus-v/334801-netflix-works-optimus-v.html#post2679220
^^^^^DOES NOT WORK^^^^^

im pretty confident it will not work on the hero ever same reason as flash, i know they said they would only be supporting new snapdragon processors due to some sort of DRM compliance
i am also pretty sure that it needs an ARMv7 processor for some sort of hardware acceleration much the same way flash does, so its going to be more than just some build prop edits
best chance of it working
drm.apk from evo
build.prop edit
alot of luck

thoughtlesskyle said:
im pretty confident it will not work on the hero ever same reason as flash, i know they said they would only be supporting new snapdragon processors due to some sort of DRM compliance
i am also pretty sure that it needs an ARMv7 processor for some sort of hardware acceleration much the same way flash does, so its going to be more than just some build prop edits
best chance of it working
drm.apk from evo
build.prop edit
alot of luck
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The Optimus S/V has it working, they have a ARMv6 like us. Also, according to someone's twitter update (just saying, it might be true) Random Google Search they got it working on the HTC Hero.

Nilxchaos said:
The Optimus S/V has it working, they have a ARMv6 like us. Also, according to someone's twitter update (just saying, it might be true) Random Google Search they got it working on the HTC Hero.
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Did you try following their method?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n8mnzbgjOM
That's what I've gotten so far. I only used the method in the description, and I posted above.
It just uploaded, so I don't know if it's public yet.

i almost wonder if it has something to do with it not really having a GPU thats all excuses though i honestly thought it was cause by what i posted so this is awesome proof of concept guys keep up the good work

Trying the Optimus' way now. Hopefully it'll work. I'd love to have this on my phone, even though it will overheat the heck out of my battery .
By the way, I'm on AOSPCMOD 4/29, and it worked with AOSP's other ROM for the Optimus V. But then again, they have a working screen on-off animation, and we don't .

That I am pretty sure is because of the gpu esp for how choppy they were when they do work
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It sounds like *some* evo owners on GB can't get it either, since they are still officially on froyo... They are a supported device.

il Duce said:
It sounds like *some* evo owners on GB can't get it either, since they are still officially on froyo... They are a supported device.
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For me it doesn't show in the market but if I install the apk it works fine
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PS3 Controller for Android Devices

I know XDA has a handful of threads in other parts of the forums talking about this app. Just letting everyone know that I works for me (I am running AOSPTheory/CM7). I do not know if it works with other roms, so if you try it, let us know!
First Link is the DEVS website
Second Link is to the marketplace, it's a compatibility checker
Third Link is the actual app that you need to pair your phone and controller.
http://www.dancingpixelstudios.com/sixaxiscontroller/tool.html
https://market.android.com/details?...xiscompatibilitychecker&feature=search_result
https://market.android.com/details?...udios.sixaxiscontroller&feature=search_result
Again, if you aren't running CM7/AospTheory, let us know if it's compatible with your rom!
EDIT: Seems like it is NOT working with sense roms!

No go on SkyRaider Zeus Preview
Just letting you know it doesn't work right now on the new Gingerbread SkyRaider Zeus Preview. Can't wait for it to be supported. Looks pretty sweet!

Working on Cyanogenmod 7 for ThunderBolt via BootManager.
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PS, anyone with an Asus Eee Pad Transformer, it works with that too

Tangentially related, but anyone running AOSP / CM7 been able to use their phone as a text entry device for PS3? Seems like they don't like to talk to each other over bluetooth - I make the phone discoverable for 5 minutes, and my PS3 just sits there scanning for devices 'till the cows come home

AOSP Bluetooth stack will work. Sense will not. Samsung tablets will not. It would require someone porting the bluetooth stack and considering no one has done it, I would guess it would be hard.

SP1986 said:
Tangentially related, but anyone running AOSP / CM7 been able to use their phone as a text entry device for PS3? Seems like they don't like to talk to each other over bluetooth - I make the phone discoverable for 5 minutes, and my PS3 just sits there scanning for devices 'till the cows come home
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Works with Blueput Droid and any android device I have used running an AOSP rom.

Morkai Almandragon said:
Works with Blueput Droid and any android device I have used running an AOSP rom.
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That is the app I am trying as well. Wondering if I should back up my save games and just do a factory reset. I may have tried it once in the past and aborted the process for some reason and it caused it to hiccup and not be able to pair up again.

Thunderbolt running Gingeritis 1.2.1
Does not work on Gingeritis 1.2.1 ROM.

Hmm seems as if it doesn't work with sense roms yet. Ill edit my op to list this

How does Android (CM9) run on this tablet?

I am looking at buying a refurbished HP touchpad (16GB version)...what doesn't work if I put Android on it? I saw a reference to the Mic, but that wouldn't be a big deal to me. Does most everything else work on this unit? Thanks!
mm0
P.S. I did do some reading, but wasn't finding a lot of info...

muzicman0 said:
I am looking at buying a refurbished HP touchpad (16GB version)...what doesn't work if I put Android on it? I saw a reference to the Mic, but that wouldn't be a big deal to me. Does most everything else work on this unit? Thanks!
mm0
P.S. I did do some reading, but wasn't finding a lot of info...
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A little more reading should help you make up your mind.
In the mean time, CM9, which is what I am running, runs beautifully on TP. Other than the camera and the mike issue you mentioned, everything else works fine. There are a few people with sporadic wifi issues but I am not complaining with my TP's performance.

Nowadays just camera and mic don't work. Wifi can be buggy at times but its been getting better in the latest nightlies, I don't really have issues anymore.

Even with the wifi issue, most people have had success switching their routers not to use high channels, keeping them on 6 and under.
Another thing to note is that the speakers dont work so well if the screen is turned off, having a bit of a garbled sound to them. So dont plan on listening to music on it with the screen off.

Jotokun said:
Even with the wifi issue, most people have had success switching their routers not to use high channels, keeping them on 6 and under.
Another thing to note is that the speakers dont work so well if the screen is turned off, having a bit of a garbled sound to them. So dont plan on listening to music on it with the screen off.
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for the issue with speaker dont work (or fart) when screen is off...classicnerd's dev has found the fix and it works perfectly....but they are still working on HD fix...

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for the issue with speaker dont work (or fart) when screen is off...classicnerd's dev has found the fix and it works perfectly....but they are still working on HD fix...
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Is this sound fix available anywhere? Or do we just have to wait until the next release?

sitlet said:
Is this sound fix available anywhere? Or do we just have to wait until the next release?
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the rom with the sound fix is released on thier website...see the latest version..

and maybe some games don't work (gameloft, riptide, ea games) but everything else works for me.

ace9988 said:
and maybe some games don't work (gameloft, riptide, ea games) but everything else works for me.
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Riptide works just fine. Most gameloft games work if you spoof another device in build.prop. Some EA games can be made to work with Chainfire 3D.

I got it delivered yesterday...so far cm9 works great...I had one issue with wifi, but changing the channel to 3 seems to have fixed it...pretty happy so far.

there is also software at google play that will help with the wifi issues. look up wifi fixer, free and does the trick
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Jotokun said:
Riptide works just fine. Most gameloft games work if you spoof another device in build.prop. Some EA games can be made to work with Chainfire 3D.
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thats why i said maybe, cuz right now i'm too lazy to edit the build.prop or work with chainfire 3d, i am aware of it though thanks anyways
apart from that i can't think of much else wrong with cm9 android on the touchpad

It is honestly the most stable alpha I have ever used on any device, using it for a month and not a single fc/freeze.

if you can afford a tablet that comes with android, your better off with that
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It's perfect. Best Android ROM on any device I've had. No mic and camera, but minor, minor details.

I've just had battery 'issues' with CM9. Not really an issue, but my battery just seems to drain more rapidly than CM7 does. IE: When reading on CM9 with Aldiko for an hour, in airplane mode, it seems to drain about 20%. I guess that's normal?

CM9 works great for me on the touchpad. Only issue I personally had was not being able to hide the status bar for certain games I'd prefer fullscreen, but there are apps out there that can get rid of it.
Overall best android experience for me so far, I've got cm9 running on my Atrix as well, but that's still a bit buggy compared to this!

the magnetometer/compass doesnt work. it worked wonderful in webos, but it gets no love in android.

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Overall best android experience for me so far, I've got cm9 running on my Atrix as well, but that's still a bit buggy compared to this!
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Sorry to veer off topic, but what do you like better in CM9 on the Atrix, compared to the current stock Gingerbread?
Back on topic, I thought that Alpha 0.6 was pretty good, then I thought Alpha 2 was awesome, and now with a recent nightly build, I think it's damn near perfect. The front camera would be nice at some point, but I don't need it right now.

awesome
I've been using android since the CM7 alpha 1 and playing around with different roms along the way since then.
I recently switched to OAT's light and tasty from the forums (CM9 based) and my TP now works just as well you'd would expect any fancy android tablet to work (without a mic or camera). Since this finally fixed my wifi issues, the tablet is now super smooth and flawless to use. Plus it has faster community updates than even the high end android tablets.
to the dude above me who's getting 2 hours of battery life, that is not normal, I can read books on aldiko for much longer than that, you should try making a backup and installing one of the most up to date releases.