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Diamond is probably the worst phone I ever used

Its slow, its buggy, the battery life is non-existent.
I haven't tried the cooked roms yet, but out of the box, with nothing installed.... its almost unusable, and I already had it for 3 weeks.
Pretty pathetic for a $800 phone.

Talk about speaking your mind
I do not own a Diamond device however i can tell you (with respect to ANY HTC device) that the ROM that it comes with is not the ROM you want to keep. Look into flashing and you should have a much more pleasing time with a vigorous device.

How odd.
I have mine for about 3 weeks now, batterylife is now about 3 days including 3G browsing, using TomTom, calling etc. (improved a lot since day 1, when it only last for 1 day)
Interface is very fast, its only slow when I close Opera after browsing for about 5 seconds, after that performs fast again.
It is running a cooked ROM though.

Very useful thread... one of many.
With some tweaks the HTC performs well. Even the battery.

kareem9nba said:
Talk about speaking your mind
I do not own a Diamond device however i can tell you (with respect to ANY HTC device) that the ROM that it comes with is not the ROM you want to keep. Look into flashing and you should have a much more pleasing time with a vigorous device.
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True, but my Prophet and Trinity were not anywhere close to the level of "suck" that this phone comes to.

bakman said:
How odd.
I have mine for about 3 weeks now, batterylife is now about 3 days including 3G browsing, using TomTom, calling etc. (improved a lot since day 1, when it only last for 1 day)
Interface is very fast, its only slow when I close Opera after browsing for about 5 seconds, after that performs fast again.
It is running a cooked ROM though.
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3 days? which rom are you running?
Im down like 40-50% battery after an hour of music....

yegor said:
Its slow, its buggy, the battery life is non-existent.
I haven't tried the cooked roms yet, but out of the box, with nothing installed.... its almost unusable, and I already had it for 3 weeks.
Pretty pathetic for a $800 phone.
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so what ? return for refund, i`ll keep mine nothing change

Im down like 40-50% battery after an hour of music....
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i though you wanted a phone (it's in the title), not a mp3 player..change the title accordingly and yes, very useful thread! never heard of battery life problem.......interesting... keep them coming!
share with us yr wisdom!

KukurikU said:
i though you wanted a phone (it's in the title), not a mp3 player..change the title accordingly and yes, very useful thread! never heard of battery life problem.......interesting... keep them coming!
share with us yr wisdom!
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Keep your elitist **** to your self, pidoras.
That was an example of the poor performance of the phone. My Trinity could do 4 hours, and it wouldn't even drain he phone that much.

It's just not performing poor.
Just installed HTC's own new 1.37 rom ... and see, it's a almost full functional device!
Fast, no lags (it's not a 3300 nokia!!) lots of usability, navigating, mailing, exchange, foto's, sound, browsing, the whole bunch in my pocket.
A lot of these topics, but I am glad i bought one

I must say battery life is very poor in music playback with set of stereo bluetooth hedphones, i get about 3 hrs max just using music and no phone calling etc. it seems to me that when the battery gets to the last 2 bars it doesnt last long at all. im on the latest rom, phone calling/sat nav and surfing via 3g doesnt seem to be that much of a problem to me battery wise. Ill be picking up the extended battery, i wouldnt swap this phone for any other though!

yegor said:
Keep your elitist **** to your self, pidoras.
That was an example of the poor performance of the phone. My Trinity could do 4 hours, and it wouldn't even drain he phone that much.
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Just had a nice time reporting you (c)
Besides, he was right.. The phone is not as bad as you said, the things you said just prove that you don't know how to use it to it's potential, that's all...
Yes, I don't own a Diamond (waiting for the Pro), but from what I can see on this forum, for each 10 whining people, there are 50 or more who love the phone after tweaking it for themselves..
The topics like this are pretty much useless, as the only thing they contain is whining, but don't actually give anything useful
My regards..
P.S. You are russian, aren't you?

This is the best phone I ever used
With the reg tweaks here from the wiki the battery lasts about 2 days - I can live with that (remembering my "old" PDAs where battery lasts not a half day *ggg*). We wanted it full featured and slim - so we habe to live with this "battery issue".
But I ordered the extended battry from HTC yesterday - just in case

Cendaryn said:
This is the best phone I ever used
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/me cheers

IMO A2DP is going to drain the battery of any phone?
Whats battery life like on core player with corded headphones?

The rom that came with it (for most people) is slowwww.
A rush to get the phone out i think, but i think alot of people would have made that compramise - have the phone 3 weeks ago with a slow rom and be able to upgrade it around now.
Check the roms section you can find the official rom updates for each region there. You don't need to do any hard SPL modifications to use those, and therefore shouldnt affect your waranty. I would suggest that first.
Flaming is just pointless, and alot of people had the same thoughts at 1 point, i know i did!

I'm looking to get a Diamond and TBH find threads like this useful. I know its a Marmite kinda thing (love it or hate it) but it gives a indication of what the phone is like.
I want a Daimond and wil lsoon be getting one from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
If he said the phone was one of the best ever made you wouldn't slate him and degrade him....so why do it otherwise???
Afterall its a Forum and peoples opinions are their own! Forums wouldn't exist otherwise!

cammy3000 said:
from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
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Thats a good price. If you dont mind me asking, how are you getting it for £230 Non Contract?

I have to say this is probably the most ocvered topic for every single HTC out there, I have had almost all production releases and everytime someone always states its the worst phone ever! truely this can't be the case.
There are phones that have been much worse and this is a PDA with lots of extras that why you pay more oh and the fact you purchased it so early. give it a chance with a newer rom.

cammy3000 said:
I want a Daimond and wil lsoon be getting one from Orange (£230 NON CONTRACT!!) and want as many users feelings for the phone as possible.
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Where in the hell are you getting it for £230? Link please..

help me deside.

Hi
I have ben looking to buy the lg 2x optimus for a while. Reports of isues, the phone not working proberly, battery, bluetooth isues and so on, have ben holdning me off. And i have infact started to look for other phones, then i saw that cyanogenmod are adding support for this phone, and its getting pretty close. So i was wondering, will these isues that people are having, be resolved in cyanogenmod?
The reason i am looking for the optimus 2x, is because its only a 4", i think 4.3" is a bit to big, also if cyanogenmod is coming, and all the "isues" are solved with the phone i really thing this could be a nice phone that should be able to run icecream pretty good aswell, so it wont be outdated in ½ year.
oh, also its on sale atm.. should i strike or wait?

StarF said:
Hi
I have ben looking to buy the lg 2x optimus for a while. Reports of isues, the phone not working proberly, battery, bluetooth isues and so on, have ben holdning me off. And i have infact started to look for other phones, then i saw that cyanogenmod are adding support for this phone, and its getting pretty close. So i was wondering, will these isues that people are having, be resolved in cyanogenmod?
The reason i am looking for the optimus 2x, is because its only a 4", i think 4.3" is a bit to big, also if cyanogenmod is coming, and all the "isues" are solved with the phone i really thing this could be a nice phone that should be able to run icecream pretty good aswell, so it wont be outdated in ½ year.
oh, also its on sale atm.. should i strike or wait?
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I think most of the issues are software issues and are getting fixed piece by piece. The real hardware issue, you sent the phone for warrenty.....
So I would go for the O2X. I have it since day one, and only Issue I had since then that the phone powerd off like 3 times. 3 Times in 2/3 months is ok for me Since the update it hasn't powerd itself off yet.

xmoo said:
I think most of the issues are software issues and are getting fixed piece by piece. The real hardware issue, you sent the phone for warrenty.....
So I would go for the O2X. I have it since day one, and only Issue I had since then that the phone powerd off like 3 times. 3 Times in 2/3 months is ok for me Since the update it hasn't powerd itself off yet.
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tnx for your fast reply, i was hoping for something like that. How is it for daily use? i guess the phone is ok, once you get all that lg crapware off the phone?

StarF said:
tnx for your fast reply, i was hoping for something like that. How is it for daily use? i guess the phone is ok, once you get all that lg crapware off the phone?
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I was a HTC user. Almost all the smarthphones i've owned were from HTC.
All the HTC phones I've rooted. Not cause of custom roms or whatever.
Just some setting changes etc...
The O2X I havn't rooted yet. Why? Cause it works as it should work.
On the first stock rom I could get 1.5/2 days out of the battery. And even got 4 days (disabled internet). And now with the new rom I get one day. So that is also a software thing. But still I don't see the need of rooting the phone.
The phone works very good out of the box.

xmoo said:
I was a HTC user. Almost all the smarthphones i've owned were from HTC.
All the HTC phones I've rooted. Not cause of custom roms or whatever.
Just some setting changes etc...
The O2X I havn't rooted yet. Why? Cause it works as it should work.
On the first stock rom I could get 1.5/2 days out of the battery. And even got 4 days (disabled internet). And now with the new rom I get one day. So that is also a software thing. But still I don't see the need of rooting the phone.
The phone works very good out of the box.
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i am comming from a htc desire, that is running cyanogenmod, and tbh i wouldent be able to live with anything else, than that or a clean android experience.

For those, who are considering to buy O2X, my advice it to wait till gingerbread update is released. The phone is a promising one and I also think most of the problems described here, are software related. The UI is quite laggy sometimes, some people have reboot/battery drain/low incall quality etc. So w8 til gingerbread arrives.

kopchev said:
For those, who are considering to buy O2X, my advice it to wait till gingerbread update is released. The phone is a promising one and I also think most of the problems described here, are software related. The UI is quite laggy sometimes, some people have reboot/battery drain/low incall quality etc. So w8 til gingerbread arrives.
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it was my impresion that cyanogenmod was close, if so that would give it gingerbread?

StarF said:
it was my impresion that cyanogenmod was close, if so that would give it gingerbread?
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He means the stock gingerbread. Not Cyanogenmod.

kopchev said:
For those, who are considering to buy O2X, my advice it to wait till gingerbread update is released. The phone is a promising one and I also think most of the problems described here, are software related. The UI is quite laggy sometimes, some people have reboot/battery drain/low incall quality etc. So w8 til gingerbread arrives.
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I agree with you. Wait for Gingerbread. If this update will not resolve all the problems then its a ****y product.

tnx for the response, desided to wait it out and see.. TBH unless the cm version for it, is bad, or anything like that, i would probaly buy it. I dont plan on running a stock rom any way, i am considering it just because there is cm for it

raf2k said:
I agree with you. Wait for Gingerbread. If this update will not resolve all the problems then its a ****y product.
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TBH it's a ****ty product for now and hopefully new firmwares will fix it; for now it's a strange and very picky device. I always think back to the days I just got my HTC Hero; that device only got "fixed" due to paul 'o brien and the cyanogenmod team otherwise i had been selling it a long time ago. Still got the hero though and recently flashed one of the latest oxygen roms on it and it actually amazed me how solid and fast it was; that is one of the beauties of these kind of phones; the communities behind it fixing things.

arielext said:
TBH it's a ****ty product for now and hopefully new firmwares will fix it; for now it's a strange and very picky device. I always think back to the days I just got my HTC Hero; that device only got "fixed" due to paul 'o brien and the cyanogenmod team otherwise i had been selling it a long time ago. Still got the hero though and recently flashed one of the latest oxygen roms on it and it actually amazed me how solid and fast it was; that is one of the beauties of these kind of phones; the communities behind it fixing things.
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But as long the HW isent "bad" or there are isues with the hardware, i dont see why the phone wouldt be a good buy, as long you know, you need to root and mod it, in order to get a prober phone.
after all the tmobile version runs pretty good i am told, so its more or less software isues?

StarF said:
But as long the HW isent "bad" or there are isues with the hardware, i dont see why the phone wouldt be a good buy, as long you know, you need to root and mod it, in order to get a prober phone.
after all the tmobile version runs pretty good i am told, so its more or less software isues?
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The stock android experience on the tmobile version still has some of the quirks we experience in the rest of the world, but even with the LG crapware software layer it can be an awesome phone but just don't treat it as a normal android phone; leave the LG crap in place and build on top of it or your phone will reboot/hang/go black (in my experience)

arielext said:
The stock android experience on the tmobile version still has some of the quirks we experience in the rest of the world, but even with the LG crapware software layer it can be an awesome phone but just don't treat it as a normal android phone; leave the LG crap in place and build on top of it or your phone will reboot/hang/go black (in my experience)
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so just to be clear, if i remove all the lg crapware, the phone will run badly ?i thought it was the other way around.

As things stand OP, I just wouldn't bother with this phone...
Had it nearly a month now.. fantastic hardware but the software sucks big time. Super slow and battery life sucks (probably due to software).
Thoughts of waiting for Gingerbread are all well, but LG managed to screw up the current software so well that I have complete faith that they will also screw up that too.
In a couple of months the Galaxy S2 will be out followed a bit later by the Atrix.. I dare say they won't be perfect but I don't think they can be as bad as LG's "effort"..
I really wish I had a HTC Desire, a 2 year old phone over my O2X...
Don't get me wrong, I love Android to pieces, but IMHO if Google can't sort out the mess that too many manufacturers are making of their OS by sticking their own crap on top and making it awful... it'll just push people towards Apple (who I hate). The man in the street just wants a phone that works and doesn't want to be messing around with custom roms etc.

This phone needs a lot of work to make it useable. Out of the box, this phone was crap, battery died within 10 hours, hanged 2-3 times when charging and browsing and needed to take out the battery.
I have some spare time this weekend and finally tried the vanilla rom from paul. It works perfect! No lg crapware, just pure google.
I'm using opera for my browser, listen to music for 4-5 hours with poweramp, downloaded some apps, play samurai 2, and the battery finally died after 30 hours!

Hello,
I have been reading this forum in the past few days but I still can not decide what smartphone should I buy for my birthday which is in about 2 weeks.
To be honest I have never owned a smartphone before, so when I decided to get one recently, I thought it might be better start off with a medium category Samsung Galaxy Ace for about 135 EUR (discounted price as a loyal sub-er).
However, after some further readings I realised it might be better to get a premium category O2X for about 270 EUR (with the same discount), since it will not outdate as fast as SGA, so probably I can use it for 2-3 years while SGA has already lesser apps and its slower processor will be outdated relatively soon. I do not intend to buy any new phone for 2-3 years after I get one now.
Also as a newbie, I think it will take me some time to get familiar with android features so waiting for updates should not be an issue for me (having the freezes and Gingerbread in mind).
As it stands now, O2X seems to be a better investment for me for the long term, but as I have no experience wiht smartphones at all I would like to hear your opinion as well - thanks in advance.

topanyel said:
Hello,
I have been reading this forum in the past few days but I still can not decide what smartphone should I buy for my birthday which is in about 2 weeks.
To be honest I have never owned a smartphone before, so when I decided to get one recently, I thought it might be better start off with a medium category Samsung Galaxy Ace for about 135 EUR (discounted price as a loyal sub-er).
However, after some further readings I realised it might be better to get a premium category O2X for about 270 EUR (with the same discount), since it will not outdate as fast as SGA, so probably I can use it for 2-3 years while SGA has already lesser apps and its slower processor will be outdated relatively soon. I do not intend to buy any new phone for 2-3 years after I get one now.
Also as a newbie, I think it will take me some time to get familiar with android features so waiting for updates should not be an issue for me (having the freezes and Gingerbread in mind).
As it stands now, O2X seems to be a better investment for me for the long term, but as I have no experience wiht smartphones at all I would like to hear your opinion as well - thanks in advance.
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those here that can cope with the o2x know what we've been talking about. How does a fresh one fit in?
- need 2x day on a battery?
don't go near android (but it can be done)
- need an ios like expeience?
the o2x is a no go; you're better of with a high end htc phone
- cutting edge?
the o2x could be it; for now the nexus 1 and nexus S are a better choice
- UX
sense -> go htc! or maybe Sony/Eric
- the most powerfull phone
hey this could be it, for 4 months

You should buy it, cuz it hasent locked bootloader and it very easy phone for the developers, so there will be very good roms, and btw. CM7 is on the way :=)

arielext said:
those here that can cope with the o2x know what we've been talking about. How does a fresh one fit in?
- need 2x day on a battery?
don't go near android (but it can be done)
- need an ios like expeience?
the o2x is a no go; you're better of with a high end htc phone
- cutting edge?
the o2x could be it; for now the nexus 1 and nexus S are a better choice
- UX
sense -> go htc! or maybe Sony/Eric
- the most powerfull phone
hey this could be it, for 4 months
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Thanks for feedback.
The problem is that my provider currently sells 3 types of HTC: Wildfire, Desire and Desire HD. HTC DHD would cost 430 EUR which seems too much for me, normal desire would cost nearly as much as O2X.
Also nexus phones are not avaliable at my provider and there are only 3 types of Xperias avaliable from S/E which I dont really like.
I am kinda bound to my current provider so I do not think I have too many possibilities..

[Q] Getting an IS tomorrow or on monday...

But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )

Splux said:
But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.

You should easily get 24 + hours if all you do is text mainly. Just remember to turn data off. It will help make your battery last longer.
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sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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Well, my current phone dies pretty quickly when texting a lot. Today it went from 60% down to 5%, and I woke for 11hours ago and have been texting ppl since then.
And I'm buying a new phone since my 4 touch-buttons on this one is getting really weird, they only work sometimes and yesterday they all died so I was stuck in a conversation and had to reboot to get out of it.
And sending texts and stuff is what I mainly do, of course I browse the Internet, play games and everything. During school and such I only text people, and a lot. So I pretty much needs the phone to make more than 24hours without charging it, even though I text a lot and listen to music.
@NardVa;
Won't be a problem. Already thought of that
Thanks for the replies

sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing

swatsor said:
I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I've made up my mind now, I'll use the official GB ROM for a couple of days/weeks/months (basically untill I'm tired of Sense 2.1) and then flash a Sense 3.0 ROM and hopefully I can understand which one of all those RUU's that's made for Europe too when I'm bored of Sense 2.1
You don't happen to know how it is with bricking this phone? Can you always reset it to stock, or can you actually brick it for real so it's 100% unusable?

[Q] Final verdict . To buy or not 2X ?

Well guys im going to buy my first android on 18 July .! n im really confused by the comments n going through all the treads about the reboot related problems of this phone .! n now im really scared to buy this phone also i want a future proof phone as this will be my last phone from parents n i can buy my next phone after 3-4 yrs only ..! So guys plz help me weather to buy this phone or not .! Even if i get a defective piece will the problem be corrected in future updates or i will have to keep a defective phone for the next 4 years .! Also as in from india does India getting too much defective pieces ? or its just with some people when it comes to India ..
waiting for your suggestion ..!

Based on *my* experience I would not buy this phone again. It's unstable (over 60 recorded reboots since I bought the phone on April 18) and lacks proper support from LG (why does this not surprise me?). In my opinion, LG, again, fails to deliver on it's promises and keeps on spreading lies on whether or not an "update" fixes the reboot problem. I don't see this phone last for more than 2 years of intensive use, let alone 4 years. In that case, go for another brand although I won't start suggesting specific models.
FYI: I'm an experienced Android and used nearly every ROM available to remedy the problems I experienced.

Personally I think this phone is great. I hardly get any reboots or problems.
Install CM7, Paul's Modaco rom or the latest stock release and you'll be fine.
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Bebob_NL said:
Based on *my* experience I would not buy this phone again. It's unstable (over 60 recorded reboots since I bought the phone on April 18) and lacks proper support from LG (why does this not surprise me?). In my opinion, LG, again, fails to deliver on it's promises and keeps on spreading lies on whether or not an "update" fixes the reboot problem. I don't see this phone last for more than 2 years of intensive use, let alone 4 years. In that case, go for another brand although I won't start suggesting specific models.
FYI: I'm an experienced Android and used nearly every ROM available to remedy the problems I experienced.
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Well ok thnx

Mason. said:
Personally I think this phone is great. I hardly get any reboots or problems.
Install CM7, Paul's Modaco rom or the latest stock release and you'll be fine.
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So mate u haven't got any problem like this before ? i mean the phone is all ok for ya ? rit ?

I'm also a happy owner of the 2x, that is however because I was able to buy it at less than half the retail price from the company I work at. As a lot of people already have mentioned the phones hardware is really good and by flashing custom ROM's like cm7 or Modace the phone becomes "ok" for everyday usage. However for a smartphone valued over 500€ it is way to buggy to stand up among its competitors in the same price range. Seriously; I simple cannot understand why anybody would buy this phone instead of, for example, the SII or the HTC Sensation. The 2x is a nice phone, no doubt about that, but I would seriosly save a couple of bucks and buy one of the other phones I mentioned = better hardware and working software + working customer support. (btw the camera is also lousy compared to the SII and Sensation - even with the HD mods...)
I'm not a LG hater, and I'm really happy with my 2x - seriously most people are still pretty much amazed by my phone when I'm toying aroung with it running cm7 with SPB Shell 3D, [email protected] 1,5ghz, dsp manager etc. but yeah It seriously cannot be compared to a Sensation or SII

I haven'd hat any reboot both with stock rom and custom roms. In my opinion stock rom was quite well usable except the battery drain. But Paul fixed it quite good, which makes it possible to charge the phone every second day with reasonable constant usage
kind regards

I cant compare to a Sensation or a SII since I haven't touched them but for me at this stage the LG is SUPER. Hope you made a good choice and that you are happy with it!

you buy't
I am a new user of this wonderfull phone. i have waiting a lot of time this phone because is like samsung s2 on the performance but on a price much afordable. On this phone you pay only the hardware and software of the amazing android but on the HTC and Samsung a 10% you pay the logo, the brand. good luck and from my experience i recomend't

I´m very satisfied whit my LG and haven´t had any problems whit it

Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

pmcguire said:
Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
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What do u mean .!!

SpikeNansid said:
I cant compare to a Sensation or a SII since I haven't touched them but for me at this stage the LG is SUPER. Hope you made a good choice and that you are happy with it!
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Ohk thnx mate btw how is the gaming on this phone ?

N0r0 said:
I haven'd hat any reboot both with stock rom and custom roms. In my opinion stock rom was quite well usable except the battery drain. But Paul fixed it quite good, which makes it possible to charge the phone every second day with reasonable constant usage
kind regards
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ohh thats nice to hear thnx for replying

vladutz9 said:
I am a new user of this wonderfull phone. i have waiting a lot of time this phone because is like samsung s2 on the performance but on a price much afordable. On this phone you pay only the hardware and software of the amazing android but on the HTC and Samsung a 10% you pay the logo, the brand. good luck and from my experience i recomend't
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ohh thnx man u know the reboot problem always scared me allot

zebbe77 said:
I´m very satisfied whit my LG and haven´t had any problems whit it
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Wow u seemed to be proud of it lol
also bro have u ever felt like running out of ram ? while gaming browsing or multi tasking ?
u know i was really scred after reading the reboot problems of this phone now im happy that im getting +ve views too
also can u tell me how ti multi quote as im unable to do so

anshmiester78900 said:
What do u mean .!!
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http://www.idiomdictionary.com/definition/wouldnt-touch-something-with-a-bargepole.html

zebbe77 said:
I´m very satisfied whit my LG and haven´t had any problems whit it
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same here.. great quality and "open" like a google dev phone haha

I have it from the early begining and used only with MoDaCo ROMs , had no problems. Would buy it again.
Actualy I believe that most of the problems other have is because of basebands version incompatibility with instaled RIL...

I like my LG 2X. To me it has the best spec for the price range and good ROM from Paul and CM7. But if money is not a problem, get galaxy S2.

[Q] Should I get this phone as an upgrade?

Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.

darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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1GB is more than enough in most phones, I've never had RAM management problems with this one.
However, my answer is a big NO.
Let me elaborate;
>Battery life
With proper greenifying, wakelock detecting, and no more than 2% per 12h of battery discharge, it has a decent battery life, but it seems the screen and the tegra 3 chip draw a lot of power from it. An extended battery does fix that though, but don't expect more than 3h of screentime on a normal usage day and 60-70% brightness, on a normal battery.
>Stock ROM
Looks great, feels great, kernel is easily updated (if you got the bootloader unlocked, flash another one), and then works great too. This phone, in my opinion is meant to be the LG Optimus G's younger brother. I've tried a lot of custom roms, but stock is the one that takes it away from me, after properly kdz flashed (without the bloat apps and stuff).
>Heating issues
10 mins of playing, well, pretty much anything that's 3D makes the phone really hot, no thermal throttling though, but don't expect this phone to last if you play an hour of gaming or more. Even Subway Surf kills the battery.
>Tegra 3 incompatibility/unoptimized apps
Most games are made with Adreno in mind, needless to say, Adreno is not better than the T3, just has more optimizations done for it. Also some apps aren't available via the Play Store on this phone, but that can vary depending on your region.
In my opinion, I'd always go with an SGS3, even with stock touch wiz and bloat, because
a) it gets proper software updates, unlike LG and all of their devices, not just the 4X HD.
b) better modding support/community
c) apparently heats up a lot less and lasts a lot more, that also means given its support there's bound to be more extended batteries, cases, stands, cradles, docks, and equipment for it.
The only thing the 4X HD has going for it is the price, I've paid 180e for it, and it was a huge step up from an even worse phone than yours (Samsung Galaxy Mini, s5570), but so far, I'm not a happy camper.
And the screen has a dead pixel on it, which irks me a lot.
Oh and apparently someone took the KDZ repository on that one site down. Dunno what the deal with that is too.

darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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i would buy it, since it has good specs, and with custom roms you will have support for quite some time in future, i hope
1 GB of ram for me is enough, i don't play games on it, and after greenify hibernates apps, i got around 400 - 450 mb free, rom is latest vanir rom 4.3.1. dated 26.10.2013., and i am also using killjoy script
phone works really good, only little problem is with baseband_xmm_power wakelock, but devs are working on that and slow but surely this problem is getting reduced
camera is good for taking pictures, at least for me
i would only like that lock key is on the right side, current position is little awkward, but you get used to it
that's it from me

Thanks for the replies guys.
Hmm.... really now debating which to get 4X HD or S3 really a tough decision. I would want the 4X HD as I'm just a little bored of Samsung, but the S3 looks like will get better dev support. Its hard.
More replies please.

Its showing its age, esp since its an lg device. Wait for nexus 5?

Flying_Bear said:
Its showing its age, esp since its an lg device. Wait for nexus 5?
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Would love to have one, but they're pretty expensive for me.
After some 'extensive' research, I have finally found the Xperia ZR. Maybe I might get it once the price drops (next year perhaps). Had earlier found the Optimus G to my liking, but I just dislike the glass back and front . Well, both have CM support which is a good thing for me
Sent from my GT-I8150

Do not buy this phone. I repeat DO NOT!
Battery life sucks, and it gets hot. It is a fricking smart frying pan. Seriously you can cook an egg on it. And it lags oh boy it lags like hell.
A good phone shouldn't need this much optimization to work better. I tried every CM, kernel etc but either you get good battery life and ****ty gaming performance or you get good performance and horrible battery life (like 2-3 hours max).
Get Optimus G or S3 but don't get this.

darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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If you can get it for a good price and are willing to root and customize it, it's probably the best bang for a buck you can get at the moment.
The IPS screen is simply gorgeous. It's even more pleasing to the eye than my HTC One LCD screen if you ask me my honest opinion. Yes, it tends to drain the battery heavily, but with the right configuration you can get over 3 and even 4 hours of screen time easily. Oh, and I can't seem to get any scratches on it. Impressive since I don't use a case or any kind of screen protection and carry it around in my pocket all day. Only downside: fingerprints!
I like it's design and build quality. Even though it's all plastic, it neither feels nor looks (too) cheap. More important: all the buttons are in the right place for me. The ridged back provides some extra grip and looks quite OK (from a distance ) and so does the fake metal finish on the sides. It has to be the best fake metal in the business because it's still intact after dropping on my bathroom floor twice.
My biggest issue with this phone (besides being ignored by LG) has to be the sound quality. The silly speaker on the back is nearly useless when the phone is laying down. Picking it up doesn't improve anything.
I can't really comment on this phone's gaming capabilities. I don't really use my phone for that, sorry.
The only alternative I would consider in your position would be the Nexus 4. You should be able to pick it up for a fair price once Google releases the Nexus 5.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

Tough call
darthbii said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
Hmm.... really now debating which to get 4X HD or S3 really a tough decision. I would want the 4X HD as I'm just a little bored of Samsung, but the S3 looks like will get better dev support. Its hard.
More replies please.
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The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.

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frankie_p said:
The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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If you don't mind me asking what GPS tweaks have you done?
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just hit the thanks button
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Sorry about the double post the xda app isn't playing well with my phone
sent from my Optimus 4x
just hit the thanks button

Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325033
I got this link from this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886999
I suggest you read all of the posts, make a nandroid backup and test. The one I ended installing was the agps.patch.google.build.nossl.v3.1 as suggested in the tread, and it did improve the GPS performance of my device.

frankie_p said:
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325033
I got this link from this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886999
I suggest you read all of the posts, make a nandroid backup and test. The one I ended installing was the agps.patch.google.build.nossl.v3.1 as suggested in the tread, and it did improve the GPS performance of my device.
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Oh I already did this a while back and now use topNTP from the play store to install it lol. I asked because even with thid I can only get about 4-6 satellites in about 15 mins
Sent from my OptimusX4HD using xda app-developers app

frankie_p said:
The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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lol this is disaster mine is just fine. the real disadvantage of this phone is only the low bitrate and framerate of the camera , but thats just how the lg made it. we cant change the hardware. besides that my phone works fine

So you are saying that:
- 3rd party cameras with autofocus and flash are working fine using a custom ROM as in CM based ROM? Which one please? so I can try it.
- No wakelocks at all? What kernel are you using and how do you use your phone? Gaming?, Internet (WIFI/3G) on all the time? FB/Tweeter/G+ on with auto updates all the time?
- Connecting to a car's BT to stream music works ALL the time?
- You can syncronize more than 10GB's in one go to the external microSD with no issues ALL the time?
You must be using either a stock ROM or one based on a stock ROM.

I also am thinking about buying this phone...
I own a Desire HD and i think that it would be a huge upgrade anyways.
The battery is not a problem i think:
1)U can root and install custom roms and it would be better as almost every phone
2)It's removable so you can always get a extended one
What i would like to ask you and have your opinion guys is it would be a bit wiser to get the L9 II instead of this one

N4R4Y4N said:
I also am thinking about buying this phone...
I own a Desire HD and i think that it would be a huge upgrade anyways.
The battery is not a problem i think:
1)U can root and install custom roms and it would be better as almost every phone
2)It's removable so you can always get a extended one
What i would like to ask you and have your opinion guys is it would be a bit wiser to get the L9 II instead of this one
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this forum is for optimux 4x so i can only say about that one. the camera is bad. the bitrate and fps are low. so have in mind that and choose. about other phones u can check them in their forum. the reason is... because we dont own them all xD