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What's the fastest your Wizard has done?

Hi guys,
With the many available overclocking tools available, I noticed that quite a lot of people like to leave their phones on 240mgh, why is this so?
Ive done 264mgh using Omapclock and its been very stable.
Im currently using Batterystatus for overclocking, and Ive done 319mgh... way cool! The camera has no more lag time! However, 319mgh proved to be a bit unstable and I almost thought I got a bricked phone after...
anyway, Ive set my Batterystatus at 260 mgh and its been quite stable.
How about you guys, what top speed have you tried, and which one seems to be "stable" enough for daily use, and what overclocker did/do you use for this? Thanks

I regularly use my Wizard at 273MHz and it's completely stable.

Mine is overclocked at 299mhz now with batterystatus. Fast as hell. I tried one step up but it locked on boot up and had to do a hard boot.

Mine is set at 260, stable - no issues

motortrend said:
Mine is overclocked at 299mhz now with batterystatus. Fast as hell. I tried one step up but it locked on boot up and had to do a hard boot.
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Wow! 299 sounds impressive. How long have you been at it? Are you on WM6.1?

for those overclocking to close to 300mhz with Battery Status: What is your temperature like?
I leave mine at 195 with cpu scaler to keep my battery lasting a little while longer.

273 is 95% stable for me.

By Previous Wizard is only stable at 247MHz, any value higher than that will cause automatic reboot when a call is arrived.

is the energy consuption much higher when overclocking?
cauze i'm not sure if i dare to loose too much precious standby/tel time.

what are the possible ill effects of overclocking your wizard to say 221mhz? I know battery drain is likely, but how much and what else could go wrong?

It doesn't seem to change the temperature too much. But it probably raises it on average a 1 degree or 2. WiFi on the other hand increases the temperature dramatically especially if i hold it in my hand for more then 15 minutes.
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for those overclocking to close to 300mhz with Battery Status: What is your temperature like?
I leave mine at 195 with cpu scaler to keep my battery lasting a little while longer.
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It's WM6. It's been at 299 for about 1.5 months now. I set batterystatus to bring it back to 195 when in suspend(off) mode and back up to 299 when it's awake. As far as battery drain I'm not too sure. Batterystatus saw a peak of 3000mw with everthing on. Not sure how accurate that is.
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Wow! 299 sounds impressive. How long have you been at it? Are you on WM6.1?
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Great Topic!
I used to use omap and batterystatus as well and keep my device at 264 and it was very stable but the roms I were using were such battery hogs...now I'm using 11.0.1.1 wwe and it's the most stable rom I've used so far....battery life is very good and so I've held off overclocking because so far it's really not slow and I dont know if overclocking will effect battery life....I'm now curious based on this thread and will run a week long test using batterystatus and post my results on friday with what ever settings I used and check to see if others have done the same so we can learn where we can comfortably overclock our devices.....

I've ran at 299mhz using BatteryStatus for at least 6 months now. Seems very stable at this speed. Although I do have the occasional soft resets which are most likely from software glitches, memory leaks and WM6.1 incompatibilities. I can also underclock as low as 95mhz and seems stable. No one has ever mentioned to me about not getting their SMS or phone calls.
The temp is reasonable at 77deg F just out of idle and around 88deg F when I'm playing a game. My battery usage seems pretty reasonable. I've always overclocked so don't have anything to compare it to. I can play games for 2-3 hours, make a couple minutes worth of phone calls throughout the day, about 20 SMSs, a quick session or two of Wifi to check emails...and still have about 30-40% remaining.

You know, I clock at 252 with omap, but when I installed batterystatus, it read at 270, even though omap still said 252. I'm confused... which is correct? and why the difference? I've since uninstalled b-status

I run my q9100 at 260mhz without any problems. I have WM6.1.

You don't have to worry about killing the battery during standby because batterystatus goes back to normal when in standby mode.

HOT battery~!

OK...so MUCH THANKS to Mr. Carlisle for gettin me all squared away with rooting my Hero and upgrading to Froyo 2.2. All back ups complete, apps downloaded and only major bug thus far is the camera...SO....why is my battery running at 105 degrees on average? What should the normal range be? I turn it on @ 6 am after charging to 100% and wiping battery stats and ten hours later recharge it to 100% (Currently @ 50%) and all day the temp has been between 103 and 105. whycome? HELP!

Pauper7 said:
OK...so MUCH THANKS to Mr. Carlisle for gettin me all squared away with rooting my Hero and upgrading to Froyo 2.2. All back ups complete, apps downloaded and only major bug thus far is the camera...SO....why is my battery running at 105 degrees on average? What should the normal range be? I turn it on @ 6 am after charging to 100% and wiping battery stats and ten hours later recharge it to 100% (Currently @ 50%) and all day the temp has been between 103 and 105. whycome? HELP!
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Because on FRF91 on Cyanogen mod (which i assume you are using) is overclocked to 710 mhz, where the hero's processor runs at 528 normally. My suggestion is to download an app called overclock widget from the market, (Obviously, it's a widget and you'll have to add it to your homescreen) and set the minimum and maximum clock (processor) speed to 240mhz(min) and 518mhz [or 534, if you want to, but it won't make much difference] (max).
You can set the max (or minimum) clock speed to be more or less. Lower clock(processor) speed=More lag but better battery life, and potential to freeze your hero because the processor can't operate the system fast enough. Higher clock(processor) speed= Faster and less lag but less battery life and can damage your touch screen (It's happened to me). if you leave it at too high a clock speed for too long, and can also freeze your phone because your processor can't operate at that speed and crashes your phone.
It's up to you if you want to overclock or not, but you should keep it resonable, and if you have heavy phone usage, don't go much further than 613 mhz for your max. There is also another program called set cpu that is avalible for free for xda members, but is a paid app on the market. Using that, you can set your frequencies to the default hero processor, or of other phones. But overclocking over 710mhz could do some harm to your phone, so be careful.
If you say, "I wonder if this will damage my phone," then don't take the chance without asking around first.

If you have any more questions about overclock, pm me, and I can help you out.

That temperature range, ~40C is completely normal when charging and using at the same time (with me, anyway). I'm OC'ed to 710 and using undervolt, too. The highest I've ever seen mine go is 43C, or about 109F. I don't really know where the "danger zone" is, but if I had to guess it would be around 48C or higher.
Edit: I reread your post, and do you mean it's at 40C always, even when it's sitting doing nothing? If that's the case then follow Ryoma Echizen's advice and fine-tune your CPU speed.

[Q] Awful Battery Life - 5 Hours and 5% left. OG Droid.

So just inherited my dads OG Droid. Currently rooted and runs Steel Droid (Mod Version 9000) and 2.6.32.9_RZ Kernel.
Phone is overclocked to 1GHz (125/1000 ONDEMAND).
Like the title says, the phone gets about 5 hours and then hit's 5% and keeps asking me to charge. If I charge it overnight and unplug it when it's 100%, it'll hit 90% idling (while I sleep) about 3 hours later.
Running Programs:
DSPManager
Words Free
Facebook
3D Digital Weather Cloc
News & Weather
3G Watchdog
Videos
SoundHound
Pandora
Temp+CPU V2
Now out of all the running apps, Pandora, Soundhound, News & Weather, 3G Watchdog, Temp+CPU, 3D Digital Clock are all widgets. Temp+CPU and 3D Digital clock are the only ones that actually run, the rest are just there in case I want to use them.
These stats today are from using Pandora for about an hour over Wifi.
Any ideas? Phone runs fine most of the time but I have seen the occasional lag where you have to click something 10 times before it opens.

I used to have a pretty big problem with battery life too, but even though I think they are somewhat silly and annoying the Easy Battery Saver app helped me quite a bit.
Wifi and using the speakers are heavy on battery life. Not sure how much difference it will make but try consolidating your widgets and app shortcuts to as few screens as possible.
Also your CPU governor might be set to something that lets the phone hog through anything at the sacrifice of battery. When i set my CPU to Performance my phone runs like a boss, while setting it to battery saver I get a little more lag but more battery, obviously. Not sure how/if your ROM will let you change that but it's something to look into.

I got it set to On Demand which might be the issue. The kernel is a low voltage kernel. How do ultra low voltage kernels run?
I did a battery calibration, downloaded Advanced Task Killer (Battery saver didn't work well, I'd always have an issue with 3G not activating) and got rid of all my widgets. Currently charging it up completely, I'll check it out tomorrow.
So the title is incorrect, it says 5 hours and 5% left. I checked the battery info at 5%. It said 4hr 4x min. About 10 minutes later it shut off so I didn't even get 5 hours to a full charge.
I don't have high expectations but coming from an Alias 2 that had the extended battery (I'd get a week of battery with my use), this is pretty disappointing.

Well I can tell you now, ondemand is NOT good for battery, what that governor does is make it so the CPU will go from MIN to MAX speed slots depending on what the phone needs, AFAIK it doesn't scale with need, it just goes to max. So your phones CPU was running at max most the time which kills battery.
Can't say anything about your ROM, but I use simply stunning 5.6 http://www.droidforums.net/forum/chevyno1/177728-ss-5-6-2-3-7-incl-1-battery-other-goodies.html Which, with his low voltage 1ghz kernel set to the smartass governor, I get anywhere from 8-14 hours of battery life depending on use. Using ultra low voltage kernels depend on your phone, some phones have trouble overclocking to 800mhz mid-voltage (mid-voltage is considered to be the most stable, but use the most battery), others can overclock to 1.25ghz ultra-low voltage, which is very rare. I would say try out all the different voltage kernels and see which one works best with your phone.
Also task killer = MAJOR MAJOR No no! The task killer will kill the apps, and the android OS will restart them, using more CPU time and making the battery actually not last as long, I would recommend learning how to use the supercharger script http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Can't say much about the majority of programs you have running, but I've found facebook does not like to play nice with the Droid, also, why use the 3D clock when the Droid comes with a built in-clock app? Pandora uses a lot of battery, so running it w/ the ondemand governor is probably what hurt your battery there.
Not many Droid users left out there, but I was and still am an extremely avid Droid user, so if you have any more questions just shoot me a PM and I'll help as much as I can.

Thanks! I got rid of all my widgets and installed Chevy's ultra low voltage 1.1GHz kernel on smartass. I lost 20% battery pretty fast but let's see how long it runs. I've had no force close issues so far. I'm a bit tempted to go to 1.2GHz ulv.
How much does the ROM have to do with battery life? I really love this ROM and it's interface. I thought the battery life really only had to do with kernels.
I also got rid of the clock widget and put a default clock widget. What's the built in Android one? Is that the "Analog Clock"?
Sorry for all these questions, I'm pretty new to Android. Only had this for 2 days (~8-10 recharges...)

Its fine, better to question and learn then to just get mad and over it, and Roms have everything to do with battery, they are just like kernels, some work AMAZING on some phones, while others can destroy battery life.
Like my rom, I found the perfect one for my phone, I get 8- (been thinking about it more) 20 hours of battery life on mine and it has pretty amazing performance too with the occasional hiccup.
And I thought you had the clock app installed for an alarm, not for a widget, my bad. I don't use a clock widget so I wouldn't know.. Also, I've found its not very good to run many widgets on the Droid, as it has limited memory and can only handle so much.

Well I got sick of it and reflashed the entire ROM. CPU governer is set to ONDEMAND 125/1000. Only*widgets I have are a simple clock (like the iPhone lock screen) and power control. Gonna see how it goes. So far so good but I'm saying that because I didn't loose 20% overnight. If I can clear the day, I'm good.
googlelover, what CPU Governer did you find to work the best with your phone?

I have been an Android owner for a while now, with the Droid being my first. Until recently battery life had always been an issue for me. Undervolting has never had an effect over a 20% improvement. And this is only when it's in deep sleep. Otherwise, in very general terms, undervolting can require a higher current aka worse battery life if you use your phone a lot. With undervolting comes the risk of data corruption in your phones memory and SD Card. What really kills your phone is screen on time, wakelocks, CPU overclock, and signal quality.
The last you have no control of. But if you're overclocking 1GHz or higher you have to realize that's almost twice the manufactured clock speed. As far as wakelocks, this is when something keeps your phone from going into a low power state. This can happen because of a rogue app, a buggy ROM, or having too many widgets. I ran into a ROM a while ago on my Fascinate that would stay awake if you had GPS enabled. The best you can do with your display power usage is to keep your brightness down. Hope this explains a few things

have the same issue

core2kid said:
Well I got sick of it and reflashed the entire ROM. CPU governer is set to ONDEMAND 125/1000. Only*widgets I have are a simple clock (like the iPhone lock screen) and power control. Gonna see how it goes. So far so good but I'm saying that because I didn't loose 20% overnight. If I can clear the day, I'm good.
googlelover, what CPU Governer did you find to work the best with your phone?
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I already told you, the smartass governor, and like I said before, ondemand is not a good governor in my opinion. There are way to many factors in battery life to have anyone else be able to truly help you with it, all our phones are different and it really just takes time switching kernels, switching ROMs, etc to find what works with your phone

Sorry googlelover, I forgot you already said that.
So update guys. I've been going a day (so like 18 hours) of use after which it finally hits the 15% warning.
What I did:
Basically I reflashed the ROM and started from scratch. Before reflashing, I wiped the user data/cache/davick cache etc at least twice just to make sure it was really wiped.
I reflashed SteelDroid 9.0 with the default chevyno1 lv 1ghz kernel and gave it a go with just a simple clock widget. Worked well. One by one, I'm starting to install applications until I can figure out what was draining the battery fast. So far, so good. If I can get 18 hours on a 2 year old battery, I'm going to be doing fine with my extended battery.
One thing I did notice was that the phone back by the camera (where CPU is) isn't getting as hot as it used to. Makes me think that the phone was at a high clock speed in sleep. Another issue may have been my CPU temp/speed monitor. It was probably poling the CPU stats every second which made the phone increase the CPU speed because it sensed activity.
Try out the ROM I'm using. I absolutely love it. The interface is phenomenal and it runs very well.
htp://w w w . d r o i d f o r u m s . n e t /forum/steel-droid/148060-release-steel-droid-9-0-gingerbread-11-17-2011-a.html
(remove the spaces to see it, I wasn't able to post links normally because I don't have enough overall posts).
There's probably other ROMS that run better like the one googlelover is using, but I can't use the default Android interface anymore after using this.

core2kid said:
Sorry googlelover, I forgot you already said that.
So update guys. I've been going a day (so like 18 hours) of use after which it finally hits the 15% warning.
What I did:
Basically I reflashed the ROM and started from scratch. Before reflashing, I wiped the user data/cache/davick cache etc at least twice just to make sure it was really wiped.
I reflashed SteelDroid 9.0 with the default chevyno1 lv 1ghz kernel and gave it a go with just a simple clock widget. Worked well. One by one, I'm starting to install applications until I can figure out what was draining the battery fast. So far, so good. If I can get 18 hours on a 2 year old battery, I'm going to be doing fine with my extended battery.
One thing I did notice was that the phone back by the camera (where CPU is) isn't getting as hot as it used to. Makes me think that the phone was at a high clock speed in sleep. Another issue may have been my CPU temp/speed monitor. It was probably poling the CPU stats every second which made the phone increase the CPU speed because it sensed activity.
Try out the ROM I'm using. I absolutely love it. The interface is phenomenal and it runs very well.
htp://w w w . d r o i d f o r u m s . n e t /forum/steel-droid/148060-release-steel-droid-9-0-gingerbread-11-17-2011-a.html
(remove the spaces to see it, I wasn't able to post links normally because I don't have enough overall posts).
There's probably other ROMS that run better like the one googlelover is using, but I can't use the default Android interface anymore after using this.
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Don't forget not many roms have the default android interface, many have themes to completely change the look, if your happy where your phone is, great! But if you ever feel like your phone is slowing down again, I'd still recommend looking around and flashing some different roms.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I'm only using this phone for another couple months. I'll be getting the Droid 4 when it comes out. Looks like a really nice phone.

how much does the governerr really effect the battary?

im just wondering how much does the governerr effect battary life? i changed from ondemand to smartass2 and im not sure i see any diffrent...
and im scheduales which one is best for multitasking and which is for when playing games?
and should i change the governerr setting?
i also read that sleep_ideal_frequency should be 200 and not 100 beacuse 100 wastes more or something like that, is that true?
using galaxy i9000 semaphore kernal jb

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I use Performance governor all the time for 3 months now, battery life is same as on demand, smartass v2 or any other governor, except my phone lags much rarely than on any other govenor. For those that dont know, CPU of PC, your phone, calculator or anything else always works at 100% of its frequency even it has no work to do (Let's take for example your PC, even cpu usage is 5%, CPU still works at full frequency, the same works for your phone), so to me there is no point of any other governor except for Performance. If you have problem with battery life, it's mostly your screen. When I drain out my battery, my battery mostly get drained by screen (70-90%), I use about 0-30% of brightness always. Screen of 60-100% brightness will probably drain your phone's battery in 2-3 hours.

Lavoslav said:
I use Performance governor all the time for 3 months now, battery life is same as on demand, smartass v2 or any other governor, except my phone lags much rarely than on any other govenor. For those that dont know, CPU of PC, your phone, calculator or anything else always works at 100% of its frequency even it has no work to do (Let's take for example your PC, even cpu usage is 5%, CPU still works at full frequency, the same works for your phone), so to me there is no point of any other governor except for Performance. If you have problem with battery life, it's mostly your screen. When I drain out my battery, my battery mostly get drained by screen (70-90%), I use about 0-30% of brightness always. Screen of 60-100% brightness will probably drain your phone's battery in 2-3 hours.
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This is so wrong its a pain to read.:banghead: Why do we have the max and min frequency options in the semaphore app? Why do we have "Max Performance" and "Max Battery" power settings on laptops?
Sent from my GT-I9000

There was a thread some while ago that concluded in OnDemand and Performance being to two to give longest battery life and best performance.
I don't have specifics or even a link, but the thread was about schedulers and governors and which went together for best performance and battery life. I'm sure it's google'able
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium

i found that thread but im just wondering how much battary life is wasted if i prefer preformence?
lets say i use smarassv2 since its faster will my phone drain lets say insted 20%\hour - 22%\hour? or is it more then that?

itzikd1 said:
i found that thread but im just wondering how much battary life is wasted if i prefer preformence?
lets say i use smarassv2 since its faster will my phone drain lets say insted 20%\hour - 22%\hour? or is it more then that?
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maybe you can try and tell us

There should be a significant impact regarding battery life when using Performance for example. But it also depends on what you are used to. If you play games all the time or do heavy tasks, the governor will kick the CPU to 100% all the time anyway. But if you mostly surf on the Internet or read texts there's no need to let the CPU go rampage.
Oh and Btw: Modern CPUs in notebooks or computers in general clock themselves down as well when they're idle.
Sent from my Gameboy Color

BlueFlame4 said:
There should be a significant impact regarding battery life when using Performance for example. But it also depends on what you are used to. If you play games all the time or do heavy tasks, the governor will kick the CPU to 100% all the time anyway. But if you mostly surf on the Internet or read texts there's no need to let the CPU go rampage.
Oh and Btw: Modern CPUs in notebooks or computers in general clock themselves down as well when they're idle.
Sent from my Gameboy Color
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I do use internet mostly so what will be the most effective governerr any idea?

itzikd1 said:
I do use internet mostly so what will be the most effective governerr any idea?
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Try OnDemand or SmartAssV2.

Get more battery life (CM 10.1)

Hi all guys, I have got stock rom with a custom kernel for a lot of time. But with Cm 10.1 I can't get the same battery life and I don't understand why. All people here say the have more than 3 hours of screen-on time. But I can't say the same and I don't understand why.
I have optimous prime kernel and cm10.1 and I set every time these CPU frequency:
Min 102 MHz
Max 1.2 GHz
Interactive Scheduler
I don't have any strange app that cause drop of battery. I was wondering if Facebook app can drop it, but I have setted Facebook to don't synchronize.

LoKKeR said:
Hi all guys, I have got stock rom with a custom kernel for a lot of time. But with Cm 10.1 I can't get the same battery life and I don't understand why. All people here say the have more than 3 hours of screen-on time. But I can't say the same and I don't understand why.
I have optimous prime kernel and cm10.1 and I set every time these CPU frequency:
Min 102 MHz
Max 1.2 GHz
Interactive Scheduler
I don't have any strange app that cause drop of battery. I was wondering if Facebook app can drop it, but I have setted Facebook to don't synchronize.
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Install better battery Stats or any other app that measures the sleep time of your phone, and see what's keeping your battery drain and / or keeping it from going into deep sleep

he is right. some app must drain your battery otherwise the battery is dying. also i can say that 1.2 is really low. mine is 1.7 and is running like a lion for around 3 hours too.