Difference between 'Freezing' with Ti, and renaming to .bak with RE? - Motorola Droid 3

So now that we have root and we're all getting rid of the bloat, can someone help me understand the difference between using Titanium Backup to 'Freeze' an app, and using Root Explorer to semi-delete it by renaming it to .bak?
Which is better? They're both reversible, so does it make any difference?
Thanks!

tonyx3 said:
So now that we have root and we're all getting rid of the bloat, can someone help me understand the difference between using Titanium Backup to 'Freeze' an app, and using Root Explorer to semi-delete it by renaming it to .bak?
Which is better? They're both reversible, so does it make any difference?
Thanks!
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They both have the same effect; the file is no longer able to be executed. If those are your 2 options, I personally would prefer freezing with Titanium Backup because it's much easier to do and much easier to reverse it.
I, on the other hand, did a factory reset, immediately backed up everything to my SD card (after uninstalling Nova and that stupid Golf game), and then used Titanium Backup to Uninstall all the bloatware I did not want. I ended up uninstalling 32 apps. Freezing would've had the same outcome, but I prefer those apps to be completely gone on my phone...I despise them that much.
If an OTA is ever released, I'll simply reinstall all of them from the Titanium Backup on my external-SD and voila, phone is as it was right after a hard reset.
Hope this helps.

Don't make the same mistake I did and freeze/uninstall "Yahoo Mail Authenticator" ... it causes the contacts (when you open a particular contact) to force close.

djthread said:
Don't make the same mistake I did and freeze/uninstall "Yahoo Mail Authenticator" ... it causes the contacts (when you open a particular contact) to force close.
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Then why does this guy have no problems deleting it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16997382&postcount=8

thank you now i know what is the difference too

DoubleYouPee said:
Then why does this guy have no problems deleting it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16997382&postcount=8
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Maybe because he hasn't came across the issue yet. I had the same problem when I froze this app. Contacts would FC. Restored it and it returned to normal.
It's best to try freezing (or renaming) one or two programs at a time, test the phone, then continue. Doing them all at once makes for a big headache when trying to find the offending program.

I had same problem with contacts also. defrosted yahoo and worked done
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ckarrow2 said:
Maybe because he hasn't came across the issue yet. I had the same problem when I froze this app. Contacts would FC. Restored it and it returned to normal.
It's best to try freezing (or renaming) one or two programs at a time, test the phone, then continue. Doing them all at once makes for a big headache when trying to find the offending program.
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Okai.
Maybe we should have a list of things not to delete, rather than what we CAN delete then.

[post-root] safe to remove
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235325

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[post-root] safe to remove
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235325
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did you read my post?
edit: just saw your post in the topic..they should add that and other apps not-to-delete to the OP

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Finally figured out how to remove "facebook for lg" app

Ok so after months of trying to figure out how to get facebook and twitter for lg off of this phone, I figured it out. My revo is rooted and I have cwm with the decrapped rom from thecubed. The actual apk file is called sns.apk (short for social networking service). I backed it up, then froze the app using titanium backup. Voila! No more facebook or twitter for lg. I don't know if anyone else has figured this out, but I thought I would share
SWEETTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Most Excellent find. This should go in the list of useful apps to freeze. Great!!
Any non-rooted solutions??
tylerdurden531 said:
Ok so after months of trying to figure out how to get facebook and twitter for lg off of this phone, I figured it out. My revo is rooted and I have cwm with the decrapped rom from thecubed. The actual apk file is called sns.apk (short for social networking service). I backed it up, then froze the app using titanium backup. Voila! No more facebook or twitter for lg. I don't know if anyone else has figured this out, but I thought I would share
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I really doubt it, but is there a way to remove or freeze apps if your phone isn't rooted? Also, can't you just uninstall the apps instead freezing them? Or does that cause a problem somehow?
Thanks! I was wondering what SNS was...frozen now!
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djembeman said:
I really doubt it, but is there a way to remove or freeze apps if your phone isn't rooted? Also, can't you just uninstall the apps instead freezing them? Or does that cause a problem somehow?
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You can uninstall them.. but freezing to me is better.. if we do get the gingerbread update and you are still pretty stock with some frozen apps, you can un freeze and then do the update and you should be fine.. much easier than uninstalling the app and then having to reinstall them.
I noticed after reflashing decrapped 1.1 the facebook for lg icon came back and it also showed up as an option for sharing a pic. I looked in titanium backup and it said it was still frozen, when I hit unfreeze it said apk file not found, so I hit uninstall. That was successful, then I flashed mtmichaelsons revolt rom and since he hasnt gotten bluetooth working on it I reflashed again back to decrap 1.1. The icons came back and I went to tibu again. I hit restore and it said it was successful, but then the icons disappeared. I don't really care if this program is deleted permanently from the phone, but I am wondering why it keeps popping up like that and why it's acting like that in tibu. Not a major issue for me, just odd

Messed up my phone need help!

Before I even begin, I was a nub didn't know much about rooting and did it anyways. I suppose I have learned it the hard way and now I must pay.
I rooted my phone and everything went fine.
Before knowing much about Titanium Backup Pro I instead of "freezing" application I have accidentally deleted some apps that I shouldn't have.
When I say my phone is messed up I don't mean not "operational"
I can still use it for day to day but for instant.
I deleted backup manager and now I can't even restore my backups from verizon online.
I also when I try to call somebody from my contacts list I get this error
The application Contacts Storage (process com.motorola.contacts) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.
I have random errors like that all the time.
I have unrooted and did a factory reset but to no avail.
Is there anything out there that could help get my phone back to the way it was when I received it?
I know its my fault for not learning but there must be something out there
Any help is appreciated.
When you first rooted, a backup is usually created. Go to your recovery and look for backup and restore and restore it.
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rogueone330 said:
When you first rooted, a backup is usually created. Go to your recovery and look for backup and restore and restore it.
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Thanks for that quick response, could you be more specific about "Go to your recovery and look for backup" Where do I exactly go. Went around settings but couldn't find backup
There is no backup unless you made a backup.
And there's no recovery mode on the Droid 3 yet either.
LaTropa64 said:
There is no backup unless you made a backup.
And there's no recovery mode on the Droid 3 yet either.
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So in other words you are saying I am screwed?
I requested before, but i think the thread got moved or removed to be redone in devl section... Can someone post a backup from Titanium BackUp of the stock apps that will be needed for those who have gone Delete-happy and removed some wrong stuff?
Just found this:
Javier78 said:
I've uploaded the /system/app directory to mediafire.
http://www.mediafire.com/?xntww3x2h2xow24
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geigerm said:
So in other words you are saying I am screwed?
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Nope, you aren't: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16998796&postcount=5
Thank you for the responses guys.
I have played with it but I can honestly say I have not been able to get it to work.
I have tried following the instructions, even bought Root Explorer but can still not figure it out.
I attached a picture of the error. I just can't seem to do anything to get it fixed. Also I was attempting to re-install backup manager without success.....
Anybody that can help out? Is there maybe an easier way to get back to defaults maybe somebody have an image or something of a stock operating system that could be copied? sorry I have no idea of this stuff yet still learning
geigerm said:
Thank you for the responses guys.
I have played with it but I can honestly say I have not been able to get it to work.
I have tried following the instructions, even bought Root Explorer but can still not figure it out.
I attached a picture of the error. I just can't seem to do anything to get it fixed. Also I was attempting to re-install backup manager without success.....
Anybody that can help out? Is there maybe an easier way to get back to defaults maybe somebody have an image or something of a stock operating system that could be copied? sorry I have no idea of this stuff yet still learning
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make sure when you change owner to root you change the owner on the group as well.
Seirÿu said:
make sure when you change owner to root you change the owner on the group as well.
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Ok here is what I do. Let me know if I am doing ANYTHING wrong at all.
I load up root explorer and transfer my backupmanager.apk and .odex from ex-sdcard to /system/app
then I change the permission to r/w
press and hold the file and go to permission. There I set Owner to Read/Write and Group, Others just have read privilages.
Hold the file again. Then I scroll to the bottom to change owner and group to 0 - root...
Reboot...
The program doesn't appear in my apps? Anything I did wrong?
First off, you are doing it correctly. However, I'm not sure if backup assistant is even an app you can launch from the drawer. You have to launch the "My Accounts" app. Second, you can check if it worked by going into titanium backup, and looking for the app. If the name of the app is in red, then you did it correctly.
Hey thanks for that reply! I have looked into it and like you said, it was there in red but now I can't find the my accounts app all I can find is the my verizon wireless app and our doesn't have any backup functions from what I can tell.
Let me ask you this since you seen to be pretty knowledgeable. I have all the apps on my computer from that file above! Would I be able to just copy paste them with root explorer to /system/apps and then do a system factory restore would that work? Or do I have to manually find the apps I stupidly deleted and do it one by I've like I have been?
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geigerm said:
Hey thanks for that reply! I have looked into it and like you said, it was there in red but now I can't find the my accounts app all I can find is the my verizon wireless app and our doesn't have any backup functions from what I can tell.
Let me ask you this since you seen to be pretty knowledgeable. I have all the apps on my computer from that file above! Would I be able to just copy paste them with root explorer and then do a system factory restore would that work? Or do I have to manually find the apps I stupidly deleted and do it one by I've like I have been?
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If you can't find the app, just go into Settings>Accounts.
As for your question: Unfortunately, it's not that easy (I would know, that's one of the first things I tried when I was fixing that contacts bug ). You would have to set the permissions and owners for every apk and odex file from the system dump. However, that contacts bug should've been fixed if you reinstalled those yahoo apps the same way you reinstalled the backup assistant.
Btw, you do know that backup assistant is pretty pointless since all of your contacts are synced with your Google account, right? People have reported no problems when removing the backup assistant app.
And thanks! I'm no android guru like many others here; just trying to help others with a similar problem that had me stumped for a good hour.
Thanks again. I've located the app but it still gives me troubles and not bein able to sync with the online server please call *811 or something like that. The only reason why I care its because I actually did backup all my contacts to the backup client but couldn't get them back on the phone now! I figured it out last night with syncing to gmail and it worked but still trying to get it back to normal. I will just have to do the rest manually haha! Appreciate it a lot!
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geigerm said:
Thanks again. I've located the app but it still gives me troubles and not bein able to sync with the online server please call *811 or something like that. The only reason why I care its because I actually did backup all my contacts to the backup client but couldn't get them back on the phone now! I figured it out last night with syncing to gmail and it worked but still trying to get it back to normal. I will just have to do the rest manually haha! Appreciate it a lot!
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I got that error message even without root with all of the system apps in place. Backup Assistant is just a poorly-coded app.
I'm pretty sure you didn't do much damage to your phone. I mean, as long as you didn't remove any other authenticators or other apps that blur needs in order for it to function, you should be fine just reinstalling the yahoo apps I told you about. After all, that looks like it's the only error you're getting.
And no problem.
Alright so now I need urgent help!
I went through the entire applications that I was missing and I gave them all permission etc. Rebooted my device and now I am stuck in this screen.
It's an endless loop because I get the error message and can't exit out of it.
Anything that can be done at all?
Haha, oh wow. I knew I wasn't the only one with that problem. Accounts loved to crash on me whenever I reset my phone. You can fix this one of two ways: hold the search button on your phone until it launches voice search. Say anything; as long as it launches the browser, you'll be fine. Once the search is performed, search for an apk for another home launcher. The accounts app basically hijacked your home button, so you'll need another launcher in order to get your home button back.
The second way involves using the desk dock. If you have one, then go into productivity mode. There should be an app drawer there. Open up the market, and install the launcher of your choice.
Once again, I had this problem even before root, so I'm not sure what the cause for this was.
Javier78 said:
Haha, oh wow. I knew I wasn't the only one with that problem. Accounts loved to crash on me whenever I reset my phone. You can fix this one of two ways: hold the search button on your phone until it launches voice search. Say anything; as long as it launches the browser, you'll be fine. Once the search is performed, search for an apk for another home launcher. The accounts app basically hijacked your home button, so you'll need another launcher in order to get your home button back.
The second way involves using the desk dock. If you have one, then go into productivity mode. There should be an app drawer there. Open up the market, and install the launcher of your choice.
Once again, I had this problem even before root, so I'm not sure what the cause for this was.
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I don't know what I would do without you lol... I was searching google like wild for droid 3 recovery but there is literally NOTHING out there.
Also let me ask you this. If I do a factory reset. Do I have to re-do the whole application proccess to give them permissions or should they be right now
Once it's a system app, it will always be a system app, even after resetting the phone. You should be fine.
Javier78 said:
Once it's a system app, it will always be a system app, even after resetting the phone. You should be fine.
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So I tried doing the factory reset. Everything went smooth and I was hoping that my phone would be back to the old phone.
I am at the Welcome to DROID 3 screen. Tap on the little green guy, get to the motorola screen from before and same damn error. Except this time, I can't even try to use the voice or search buttons, none of them work.....
What now? I feel so stupid right now

Froze some bloat, now Contacts FC's

After rooting, froze some of the bloat, but now when I click on a contact's name in the Contacts app, it Force Closes.
I'd read in the forums that the Yahoo Mail Authenticator was the cause of this, so I did not freeze it, but I'm still getting FC's.
Anybody got any ideas, other than one by one going through them all?
Well, step one would be a list of everything you've frozen, so people don't have to guess which one of the 220 system apps you shouldn't have killed...
I was messing around with freezing too and had the same problem; I could view the list of contacts but tapping a contact for their specific information would cause a force close. I fixed it by un-freezing some of the social apps...I think they hook into the contacts app somehow.
Did you by any chance freeze "Yahoo Contacts"?
That causes contact FCs for me.
Just tried to repro the issue with the social apps and couldn't get it to break. I also froze yahoo contacts and no breaky either. Hmm... When it happened to me I just un-froze anything remotely related to contacts, restarted, and checked. Can't say for sure exactly what it was, but try that.
I ran into this problem as well. Went back into Titanium, defrosted both of the "Yahoo" .apks and it fixed the problem. Of course there are other things that could break it if you froze them so it's not necessarily an all-in-one fix.
i know for sure that the yahoo ones were part of the problem, but i also think it could be the email and other things that contacts use even if you aren't using those specific things
hey guys I'm having the same problem but I removed the apk files instead. yea I know. I figured I could restore with Titanium backup but it just locks up. is there a way to manually reinstall? I already tried copying the apks to the /system/app/ folder but TB still reports the apps uninstalled and if I manually install the apk it says install failed. TIA!
DevilDaHusky said:
hey guys I'm having the same problem but I removed the apk files instead. yea I know. I figured I could restore with Titanium backup but it just locks up. is there a way to manually reinstall? I already tried copying the apks to the /system/app/ folder but TB still reports the apps uninstalled and if I manually install the apk it says install failed. TIA!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16998796&postcount=5
Reply back with any questions.
thank you!

[Q] removing system apps

so like always I get my phone from verizon and there are just LOADS of apps that I don't want and will never use. the first thing I usually do is download my browser of choice (xscope) and then I will go into an application and click a link or an ad. you are prompted with a dialogue of which of the browsers you want to use to open I chose xscope and tick the box that says use this as default. I am then safe to un install the stock browser and not run into any problems. I also took out the ones I knew wouldn't interfere with anything like netflix, blockbuster, pre loaded game demos.
my question is , is it safe to remove these moto blur applications, I never use facebook on my phone, I don't twitter...they're wasting space and I'd rather just get rid of them, but my last phone was the moto droid 1 and it didn't have any of this blur bull****.
so are there any complications if I remove my facebook or twitter apps then I click someones facebook link and my phone explodes because it cant find the moto blur app? Also can I get rid of the backup stuff...and Im not sure why...but Gallery has been replaced with 'my pictures' and it has that ****ing red thing on the top which indicates it will upload these to my verizon account....uhhh no thank you....do I have to keep this or can I just install an old gallery and make that default?
I wouldn't remove them, just freeze them. Titanium backup pro is a great tool and really worth the money. There's a lot of apps that can be frozen and not cause issues, check the Android development for the Droid 4, there's a thread about which apps you can freeze. Removing them can cause instability with the phone, and no sbf files have been released
dewhashish said:
I wouldn't remove them, just freeze them. Titanium backup pro is a great tool and really worth the money. There's a lot of apps that can be frozen and not cause issues, check the Android development for the Droid 4, there's a thread about which apps you can freeze. Removing them can cause instability with the phone, and no sbf files have been released
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yeep I ****ed up. I only uninstalled bloat bs like blur youtube facebook twitter, everything was seemingly working fine then I just tried to call my friend and my dialer force closes. I made backups of everything ... I was using system app remover and it has a option to backup or to disable . I backed up ..it pushed the odex files too but when I go to the folder in root explorer and install it will go through the process and then say file not installed....advice?
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yeep I ****ed up. I only uninstalled bloat bs like blur youtube facebook twitter, everything was seemingly working fine then I just tried to call my friend and my dialer force closes. I made backups of everything ... I was using system app remover and it has a option to backup or to disable . I backed up ..it pushed the odex files too but when I go to the folder in root explorer and install it will go through the process and then say file not installed....advice?
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scratch that I did a factory reset and the problem still persists. called up verizon they said they were going to give me a new phone since I just picked it up yesterday. only thing tho...can I unroot my phone and how? should I just un-install superuser? I doubt anyone at the store is going to know its rooted if I just un install that.
Please don't return your phone. You root you pay!
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Here's the list of apps I froze on my Droid 4. My battery life is amazing now. I was at over 50% after 20 hours on battery yesterday.
djdarkside1983 said:
Please don't return your phone. You root you pay!
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Can't I just unroot it? I know none of the retards at the store will be able to tell the difference...but I figured I would use the Droid 4 Utilities seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492843 and just unroot it and give it back? you think it will work?

[Q]Deleting Sony Stock apk's

Hi, i wanted to delete the stock apk's off of my sony XZ. I wanted ti get rid of the walkman,unlimted video service play now, etc. would this screw up my phone? Thanks!
Teknohtc said:
Hi, i wanted to delete the stock apk's off of my sony XZ. I wanted ti get rid of the walkman,unlimted video service play now, etc. would this screw up my phone? Thanks!
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i uninstalled play now and another apps i cannot remember
but i like walkman and media apps of sony
Teknohtc said:
Hi, i wanted to delete the stock apk's off of my sony XZ. I wanted ti get rid of the walkman,unlimted video service play now, etc. would this screw up my phone? Thanks!
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Normally it shouldn't but....
Edit: Someone created a topic before, can't find it, he deleted the Playstore APK and Playstore stopped working, so if you're going to delete the stock apk's do it 1 by 1 and test if the app still works after you deleted the apk.
This is why I prefer freezing apps instead of deleting them, using titanium backup. (This does require root.)
Pulls the frozen apps from the menu, but you can unfreeze then on the go and use them again.
Ofcourse also prevents them from automatically starting, hate it when apps run that I do not use.
Kind regards, Stefan.
Thaevil0ne said:
This is why I prefer freezing apps instead of deleting them, using titanium backup. (This does require root.)
Pulls the frozen apps from the menu, but you can unfreeze then on the go and use them again.
Ofcourse also prevents them from automatically starting, hate it when apps run that I do not use.
Kind regards, Stefan.
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Totally agree
Also titanium backup colour apps based on there importance, system app, user app
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I forgot about the titanium option i will do that! I hate when these services start up ramdomly and start running! Maps is one of them!

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