I'm not working on it, its not free for anyone to use, so I decided I wouldn't mess with it.
Awesome! Thanks!
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So I ran into a lot of problems at the last minute...
I saw some people were interested in a Matted Blues port to KF1, I personally am not a fan of Matted Blues, but I decided to do the port anyways, for the community.
Anyways, presenting Matted Blues. Well, sorta. I went on the market to get the CM7 version of Matted Blues, and when I went to buy it, it turns out that I couldn't afford it. I am completely out of money, so I literally could not afford $2. (lol). So I went and got shoman94's port, which I didn't want to use because I remember he said he edited it a little. So this is NOT a real port, I will work on that port when I get the money (the whole 2 bucks...) and will actually start working on fixing all the bugs. So here we go!
-BUGS:
-Music controller on lockscreen is supa crazy, I've seen that on every 2.3 Touchwiz rom, I haven't figured out what the cause is for it yet though. I fixed i up the best I could, but I will eventually (hopefully) get it completely fixed.
-ITS UGLY! I don't know if its shoman94's edits to the notification panel or its just an older version, but I just find it extremely ugly. Not dissing on shoman94, everyone to their own, just saying that once I do an official exact port, it will be...well, an exact port.
-A lot of the colors are darker, I know this is due to shoman94 as that is how he edited. It doesn't look bad, but it is not the color that Matted Blues should be. It is supposed to be 73B6D6 and he changed it to 367999. Again, this will be fixed when I do the real port.
-Other misc. issues that are hardly noticeable and would just be a wasted effort to fix until I did the real port.
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Then don't use it! Don't talk **** and say it's UGLY in caps then say oh no offense. You did offend and you also didn't ask to use the work I put into it. You can take the original and make your own port. Many APK's and files are different than the Cappy. Things were made by myself and modded to my liking! I asked for permission from the author before I posted and you should do the same. I don't like you attitude here sir.
Sorry for offending you, that's not what I meant. As I said, "everyone has their own", for themes everything is opinionated. An opinion is neither right nor wrong. But regardless I did forget to put the credits up and I do see how what I said was inappropriate, and I apologize.
Basically, the situation is this......
If you want to port a theme (that someone else has created) then you need the express permission of the original creator first.
In this case, if you are to be using work by two people, you need two sets of permission.
No permission, no thread.
If you currently have not agreed this with the original creator(s) then please remove the links until you have done so.
Thanks.
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Sorry for offending you, that's not what I meant. As I said, "everyone has their own", for themes everything is opinionated. An opinion is neither right nor wrong. But regardless I did forget to put the credits up and I do see how what I said was inappropriate, and I apologize.
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I except your apology but as stated above, with me you didn't even send me a simple PM asking to use it. I can't speak for the author as I don't know if you asked him but I know he wants to be asked before it's posted. The rules here are very simple and like I had to with every port I worked on.... you need to follow the same rules.
You will find out also that all the blues are no the same hence the name mattedBlue(s) and that alot didn't match when I used that color code on my screen. All my changes were to make icons match and also prefer the deeper tones. Now I have gone through many changes since I have been working on this theme for while since Continuum 4 on froyo.
But again... if you don't like the work I did which I spent days and days on. Just don't use it at all. You don't post something saying here is this for now..... I don't like it and I'm gonna change it all later then repost it.
Opinions are fine and dandy and you have the right to it. It's just disrespectful. You should have asked to use some of it... made your changes then posted. Froili was a good example of that when he posted his version of it.
Anyways.... good luck in your port.
I remembered the rules incorrectly, sorry. The reason I used yours was because I wanted something to put up for a while before I got to the actual port, which is going to take a while. But I guess I'll just wait until I can do the actual port. And as for the Blues being the same, I really don't care, people want the theme ported so I will try to port the theme exactly how it looks. I know TW is different but that just means I'm going to have to put more work into it, which I have no problem doing...
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I remembered the rules incorrectly, sorry. The reason I used yours was because I wanted something to put up for a while before I got to the actual port, which is going to take a while. But I guess I'll just wait until I can do the actual port. And as for the Blues being the same, I really don't care, people want the theme ported so I will try to port the theme exactly how it looks. I know TW is different but that just means I'm going to have to put more work into it, which I have no problem doing...
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Its understandable as I went through the same thing. But the only thing you had to do was ask the 2 of us to use it. You also could have made changes as you went.
But things here went all askew. I personally would have asked for permission then just posted it saying here is my port of mattedblues and thanks to the author and whoever for bringing it to the cappy then just make changes as you go. Not complain about what my tastes were. It was originally made for myself then decided to share it. I posted that I made changes to it and such.
I don't want to drag this on and I'm here to share what I do because this is what android is all about. SO just respect what people do by asking permission to use it and you can make changes without cause ill feelings.
Good luck
Do you really have to ask permission to use something that is open source? I'm guessing the developers on this site haven't asked samsung for permission to use their base. I understand it is proper to give credit where it is due, but I don't think permission should be required.
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Do you really have to ask permission to use something that is open source? I'm guessing the developers on this site haven't asked samsung for permission to use their base. I understand it is proper to give credit where it is due, but I don't think permission should be required.
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When it comes to themes yes permission is required. Themes (PNG's) are not part of the open source clause.
I can tell you that I have never said no and no one has ever said no to myself when I ask. I still haven't said no..... I just haven't been asked.
Very good green theme,thanks!
So is this theme still being worked on?
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Do you really have to ask permission to use something that is open source? I'm guessing the developers on this site haven't asked samsung for permission to use their base. I understand it is proper to give credit where it is due, but I don't think permission should be required.
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That's exactly what I thought. But I have decided to forget this theme because I believe this is supposed to be an open community, open to everyone. Having a price tag on something does not make it open to everyone, so I am just not going to mess with it. Someone else can do it.
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Just because its new im guessing? I sure hope its a passing fad, its hideous and now i cant hardly find a google themed custom rom anymore. whats the deal? Theres several roms id like to try but all of this custom theming crap is just ruining my rooted experience...big time bummer wish i knew how to take off a theme...
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Just because its new im guessing? I sure hope its a passing fad, its hideous and now i cant hardly find a google themed custom rom anymore. whats the deal? Theres several roms id like to try but all of this custom theming crap is just ruining my rooted experience...big time bummer wish i knew how to take off a theme...
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I think people like the pre theme because its very well done. Personally, its not my style... but I think its nice
What rom are you trying to flash? Most devs release their roms without a theme.... in any such case, most themes don't affect performance as long as they are themed correctly.
Don't like it either. actually have got sick of all the hero themes to.
Uhm, why do people like you have the audacity to try and criticize peoples efforts. I personally like the theme but have no interest in using a theme. You shouldn't have created this thread, you make this forum look bad. Instead you should try and create a theme you like yourself, see how hard it is. Then make a constructive reply that would benefit someones efforts.
have you seen the newest theme for cyans 3.9? i like it, it flows well. but please do not hate his work.
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Just because its new im guessing? I sure hope its a passing fad, its hideous and now i cant hardly find a google themed custom rom anymore. whats the deal? Theres several roms id like to try but all of this custom theming crap is just ruining my rooted experience...big time bummer wish i knew how to take off a theme...
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Wow the fact you had the nerve to post something like this is horrible. If you dont like their work just dont flash it. I use the pretheme because its nice, clean, works with cyan3.6.8.1 and is mostly clear so that my background sets most of the theme instead of some other themes that i dont prefer (although i appreciate their work) where the stuffs color is already set.
Most Roms come looking just like your g1 should have. Maybe a custom background or clock that are easy to change or remove. So try to wipe before you install something else!
whether its looks "good" or not is based up on ur opinion, but I think a lot of people like it cause its like a theming break-through. Its something different other than just changing the colors.
Themes just provide a visual enhancement. I like it if some people look at my phone and see an awesome theme, it makes the phone look like it's got bling.
Personally, I find themes softer on the eyes and some themes are relaxing eg. Cool Blue or another one.
..&& the palm pre is a slick phone && the OS is so freshh!! omg i wish i had the full OS compatiable with my g1! i love it so much lol!! i like the OS better than the iphone
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Just because its new im guessing? I sure hope its a passing fad, its hideous and now i cant hardly find a google themed custom rom anymore. whats the deal? Theres several roms id like to try but all of this custom theming crap is just ruining my rooted experience...big time bummer wish i knew how to take off a theme...
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What was the point of this? You just made a thread to bash hours of hard that someone put in just because you don't like it. Lots of people like it, I do, you don't, big deal. It was obvious that this was going to push some buttons with absolutely no gain for you or anyone else.
I dont know how or why anybody above the age of 13 would take what I typed personally. I wasnt "bashing" the hard work of anybody in particular. Sorry if thats how it came off. Believe me I know these devs spend more time on this stuff than any of us deserve.
All I was trying to say is that themes are completely gay. no hard feelings
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I dont know how or why anybody above the age of 13 would take what I typed personally. I wasnt "bashing" the hard work of anybody in particular. Sorry if thats how it came off. Believe me I know these devs spend more time on this stuff than any of us deserve.
All I was trying to say is that themes are completely gay. no hard feelings
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yes themes are happy. people design themes because they find enjoyment in it,and thus are made happy. people flash themes because they like the theme and are happy with the theme; therefore, making them happy. thank you for such an insightful view
fair enough you guys win. I now find themes acceptable...ill stop making fun of them
There is a great area of criticism where the person who feels the need to express their opinion does so in a constructive way.
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All I was trying to say is that themes are completely gay. no hard feelings
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Must. Refrain. From. ...Commenting!! *sigh*
trolling and flaming, hardly a constructive thread.
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It happened something i don't like and i don't understand...
liamstears took all my themed apps (about 70 of them) and all my icons from framework-res.apk an com.htc.resources.apk of my Mixed_Theme and he made his new theme with name Theme Animation 3.6.0...
I don't know how i must react...
Now the 2 themes are almost the same as they have almost all the same icons...
I can't understand why he did that...
I think that every themer must have his own identity. If you see all the themers such as he_stheone64, MaxDroid, david1171, alexdiaz, vistagamer, djdarkknight96 and others i forget now, they have their own identity and their own icons in their themes.
But with much disappointment, i realise that liamstears took almost all the icons from my Mixed_Theme, than making his own work.
I understand that to make an original theme by your own and from beggining neads much, much, much, much and much work. But it totally UNFAIR to take all icons ready made and finished from others themes.... It's tottally UNFAIR and HUGE mistake...
So in my opinion, liamstears didn't respect at all the Noumerous Hours that I spent to give to other users my viewpoint of how can their Desire HD, look like...
So to prove all these things i am saying If you see his old .zip files he had about 10 themed apps in system/app and now he has 70 apps all themed by ME... Also If you open his new theme (i mean all the .apks from his new theme) and also open all the .apks from my Mixed_Theme you will see that he has used almost all my icons...
In the beggining i didn't give much attention, but as i opened all the .apks he has in his new theme calling Theme Animation 3.6.0, everywhere there were MY icons...
The only sure thing is that we both like colorful themes. And to prove that you can see in my signature that i have made Mixed_Theme for my Milestone too, about 6-7 months ago and it was also colorful...But the BIG difference here is that we both like colorful themes doesn't mean that we must the same icons too...
How can now the users, of Desire HD section, decide what theme to use, if there are 2 theme almost the same???
I honestly admire the work of every themer here in xda, including liamstears and i also honestly admire liamstears for his several MODs (like Browser MOD which removes the limit of 5 opened tabs) and in description of my Mixed_Theme i mentioned him for that MOD, but i can not seat here and just watch things happening... and as i explain in P.S. in bottom, the MODs are different and to take all .pngs are different...
I was very tired to make my Mixed_Theme, as all themers who makes original themes by their own. We are talking about 2000 icons and about 3 weeks of work with 6-7 hours/day and i made all icons ONE by ONE from begging...
I can say more things but i am so tired and disappointed... So i stop here...
So here is the right thing that in my opinion can be done:
Conclusions are yours, but as you can understand if liamstears doesn't delete his new theme and try to give you his own theme and make his own icons from beggining, i must delete mine.... as there is no point for users to have 2 same themes with very little differences... So i will wait 1 day...
P.S. All themers, including me, take several MODs from Developers (brightness, PowerControlBar in notification bar, Modded apps like Black HtcDialer, etc). For example to include the Black HTCDialer.apk in my Mixed_Theme, i first asked he_stheone64 (as he is the developer of Black HTCDialer.apk) and after he gave me the permission, i included in my Mixed_Theme.... So to take several MODs, with the permission of developer who maded, it's completly different thing, of taking of one theme all the icons and to put them in your theme... And that is because 1)users will have 2 same themes and most important 2)you don't respect the work and the spended hours of the themer you took the icons.
The whole thing about Android is openess, but if someone's work is being used without permission or without credit being given then that's not good etiquette.
It's not for me to take sides here as I haven't used either theme but I hope you guys manage to sort things out
CitizenLee said:
The whole thing about Android is openess, but if someone's work is being used without permission or without credit being given then that's not good etiquette.
It's not for me to take sides here as I haven't used either theme but I hope you guys manage to sort things out
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I totally agree with you. If someone wants to use others hard worked resources, he should definitely rely on owner's decision. I have worked on CM 6.1.3 themes and know exactly how painful task it is. Respect others hard work and bring your own ideas instead of using someone's and giving credit to yourself (without even asking him!).
If this is a formal complaint .....PM at your earliest convenience.
Cheers,
M_T_M
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If this is a formal complaint .....PM at your earliest convenience.
Cheers,
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So i saw right now you are our Moderator here in Desire HD section...
So what is your suggestion for all these???
All i am saying can be easely proved...
CitizenLee said:
The whole thing about Android is openess, but if someone's work is being used without permission or without credit being given then that's not good etiquette.
It's not for me to take sides here as I haven't used either theme but I hope you guys manage to sort things out
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I agree, but that's different from open source idea...
If all of you have 2 themes almost the same, what's the point???
Every themer must have his own viewpoint on how your phones could be look like...
And every themer must have the guts to work hard to present to the users something different...
I understand where your irritation is coming from. I've had two of my large scale themes taken by a particular user and then passed off as completely his own work with him asking for donations for all his hard work. The same user is still using various fragments of my work and claiming it as his own (some people will never learn).
While is annoying and irritating, I don't think it is big enough reason to stop what you are doing. There are always going to be people that will take your work and use it or pass it off as their own. I don't think you should delete your thread/theme and stop releasing it to people as long as you still enjoy doing it.
I don't care if people ask me if they can use my work (and if someone doesn't credit me, as long as they aren't trying to pass it off all of it off as his/her own work and/or asking donations for it). In my threads, I put up a file with all my images and xml files so people don't have to rip all the images out of the various apk's, and they will only have the images from the apk's that I have themed and not the stock images in there as well.
Edit1: I was looking at the last page of your thread, and it appears that you have some users that really like your theme and enjoy using it.
Think of it this way, if people are taking your work, then you're doing something right.
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I understand where your irritation is coming from. I've had two of my large scale themes taken by a particular user and then passed off as completely his own work with him asking for donations for all his hard work. The same user is still using various fragments of my work and claiming it as his own (some people will never learn).
While is annoying and irritating, I don't think it is big enough reason to stop what you are doing. There are always going to be people that will take your work and use it or pass it off as their own. I don't think you should delete your thread/theme and stop releasing it to people as long as you still enjoy doing it.
I don't care if people ask me if they can use my work (and if someone doesn't credit me, as long as they aren't trying to pass it off all of it off as his/her own work and/or asking donations for it). In my threads, I put up a file with all my images and xml files so people don't have to rip all the images out of the various apk's, and they will only have the images from the apk's that I have themed and not the stock images in there as well.
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Look mate, i have done such much work (as you did also) that i have changed almost ALL icons in ALL apps in /system/app. So there are not many icons left to be changed...
And the hole point for me is saperated in 2 things:
1) what's the point to be out there 2 same themes???
2) As i respect the work of all other developers-themers i demand the others to respect mine....
By the way i like colorful themes and you like minimalistics.... So users have 2 different choices... that's how the things should be.... Every themer to deposit his clear opinion.... And as i said both me and liamstears like the colorful themes... So the right thing would be for him to seat infront of his computer and search and port different colorful icons to users...
But that takes much much time, so the ready icons are sweeter....
Whilst I totally understand your point I guess you should consider this: if your work is good enough to be "copied" or "used" by someone other and claimed as his/her own, then it's good work really!
That not asking is totally lacking finesse and etiquette is another consideration of course...
I assume you contacted the thief?
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Whilst I totally understand your point I guess you should consider this: if your work is good enough to be "copied" or "used" by someone other and claimed as his/her own, then it's good work really!
That not asking is totally lacking finesse and etiquette is another consideration of course...
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I see the point of you, but in my opinion in the same section there is no reason all you to have 2 same themes....
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I assume you contacted the thief?
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I don't like to use such words...
Of course i contacted him, and after i did that he put my name in the bottom of his first post...
But i haven't realise from beggining what excatlly he have done... After i downloaded his new theme and i opened every single apk i realise the HUGE mistake of his....
In every .apk has almost all my icons...
And when i realise what was going on, i decided to make this thread and of course i didn't notify him...
I am confused now also
You seemed fine when we talked in private but now you are trying to humilate me and make me look stupid? Why? What is the point of this?
At the end of the day BOTH of us have spent days/weeks/hours on each of our themes, BOTH of us have done lots of work and BOTH of us deserve the praise for the work we have done.
Yes I have used quite a few icons from your theme but why is that different to you using multiple amounts of mods and ideas from other people?
Our themes are different and are ment for different people, the most important icons in out themes are different, a couple of icons I released in that theme of yours were a quick release why I make some of my own as I had lots of requests and just wanted to fill them requests asap.
We both have our own tastes and both want to do our own thing so why cant we just get on with it in a civilised manor?
And if our themes are so similar then why did you release yours in the first place? Knowing that mine is already there which is what yours was going to be anyway?
At the end of the day your crying because someone is using icons from your theme but hey wait a minute, If I look into your theme oh wait a minute you didnt make all of it! You have used many mods from other people and even used icons from other people! I see 1 of your icons you even got from me! I know because I say there with photoshop when I didnt like 1 icon and now you have it exactly the same!
Android OS = Open source!
Everything you release is released knowing that anyone can do what they want with it basically.
I have mentioned you in my thread and thanked you for icons but that is all thats needed, this thread isnt.
You should continue to make your theme but really you should loose the attitude.
You didn't use few of my icons, you used almost ALL my icons... and you took over about 60 apps themed by Me in system/app...
And in the morning we talked I haven't realised exactly what you did...
I don't want to humiliate you, I wrote that I admire you for you MODs like the Browser MOD you did...
But now I am telling this for 1000time...
THERE ARE 2 SAME THEMES OUT THERE...
So if you don't delete your theme and try to make it from begging to show your viewpoint you will force me to delete Mine Theme...
And in you last theme obviously you didn't spend much time...
In previous themes yes I agree you have done good work, but not in your last one, as you used almost ALL my icons and not just FEW...
And I DIDN'T take a single icon from anybody that's for sure...
And if you think I'm crying what can I say???
I agree Android=Open Source but you tell me what's the point to exist 2 same THEMES out there for the users????
P.S Read few post above to see the opinion of another themer here and try to realise that it's nothing wrong with my attitude but with yours...
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Liamstears, there's a difference between open source and being polite. It's fine if you're modifying Kalagas work, and use it for yourself, but repack it as your own and release it is just wrong.
Now, just say that you're sorry, and that's it. And next time, i hope you'll ask before you release other peoples work without permission.
Liamstears, copyright still exists in open source. You can never claim the work as your own, unless explicitly given that right by the copyright holder.
My most important point here is that if one themer takes almost all icons from another themer, then the users will be confused and they will not be able to select a theme for their phone... That's why I insist that every one of the themers must have their unique identity...
And unfortunately the identity of a theme is made by how it's be looking, that means by the icons...
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Liamstears, copyright still exists in open source. You can never claim the work as your own, unless explicitly given that right by the copyright holder.
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Liamstears, there's a difference between open source and being polite. It's fine if you're modifying Kalagas work, and use it for yourself, but repack it as your own and release it is just wrong.
Now, just say that you're sorry, and that's it. And next time, i hope you'll ask before you release other peoples work without permission.
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I agree with both of you and that is why he is mentioned in my thread and thanked for his icons but what I dont get it why he was ok with it and then decided to open this thread?
Also im sorry if hes p***** off I didnt mean to but I dont see why hes going to the extent of saying he will delete his theme theres no need for that. He does good work and should keep it up, people like his theme and mine for different reasons and people choose 1 or the other and people like the choice, you shouldnt take it down.
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My most important point here is that if one themer takes almost all icons from another themer, then the users will be confused and they will not be able to select a theme for their phone... That's why I insist that every one of the themers must have their unique identity...
And unfortunately the identity of a theme is made by how it's be looking, that means by the icons...
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Mine is designed to use 1 of my 2 skins and when skins are used the themes look completely different
They were a lot users that liked your previous releases too...
Now all users that liked my theme, they find it also in your latest release...
I'm not extent it cause I am bad guy or anything else, I just say that there is no reason to exist 2 same THEMES in the same section...
That's all...
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They were a lot that liked your previous releases too...
Now all users that liked my theme, they find it also in your latest release...
I'm not extent it cause I am bad guy or anything else, I just say that there is on season to exist 2 same THEMES in the same section...
That's all...
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Yes I understand and agree BUT I think themes are different, I have had people say they prefer your theme to mine and people say they prefer mine to yours after my 3.6.0 release, both themes should exist
But how can be different themes if both use almost the same icons in all apps in system/app and almost the same icons in framework-res.apk and in com.HTC. resources.apk
There are no other icons inside the phone...
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What happened to the honeybunches thread? What was the reason it was deleted??
OP requested that his thread be deleted.
Huh okay, thanks.
Was a reason given? Is he working on a newer version? I donated money and although I understand that a donation is giving someone money without precondition, an explanation would be the polite thing to do.
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Was a reason given? Is he working on a newer version? I donated money and although I understand that a donation is giving someone money without precondition, an explanation would be the polite thing to do.
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You donated money to someone for a small tweak on the Honeycomb SDK port that deeper-blue had created... Your loss.
Not really, I appreciated his work. And since I cannot contribute to the community with expertise, I choose to do so with money since I am generally a fan of the work put out by others on this board. Trust me, if blue had a donate link I would be one of the first to kick in some cash. But he hasn't and despite being a "minor tweak" the build was still quite good.
I DENIED ALL DONATIONS... NO MONEY WAS TAKEN. I didnt want any legal issues with google. I saw in deepers q&a about the market.
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Not really, I appreciated his work. And since I cannot contribute to the community with expertise, I choose to do so with money since I am generally a fan of the work put out by others on this board. Trust me, if blue had a donate link I would be one of the first to kick in some cash. But he hasn't and despite being a "minor tweak" Mr. ____ build was still quite good.
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Just a personal thing... Can you please remove my name from your post? Thanks.
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sorry guys
All is good Marcusant! Your work was/is very much appreciated and I look forward to seeing what you do with this in the future. Maybe an EMMC build in coordination with DB? hehe
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Just a personal thing... Can you please remove my name from your post? Thanks.
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Not a problem, I apologize if I stepped on your privacy.
He deleted his post because it was becoming quite apparent that he was blatantly copying someone else's work. Taking a "picture" (diskimage) of a working version of someone else's work with a couple of apks added to it does not make it "your custom rom". He had no business giving advice on technicalities of Honeycomb that he had no understanding of, and it's no wonder that Blue wouldn't give this kid the time of day and "work together" on future builds...I'm really surprised no one called him on it earlier than now...
I do believe the reason for the OP deleting was merely the fact that you aren't meant to include GApps (Market, Gmail, Maps etc..) inside ROMS or devices that aren't licensed by Google. That's why you don't see cheap Android tablets with the Android Market on - Google hasn't licensed them too. Same applies to ROMS.
Actually Marcusant wasn't just adding "a few apks." He tweaked DB's release to make an image that would fit a 2gb card for those that didn't have access to bigger cards.
Yep--makes it even shadier-- Here is his math, in base form:
(Deep Blue's build) + (Google's Gapps) + (LauncherPro) = ("MY CUSTOM ROM" WOOT?)
It was wrong on every level.
Zeroing out space and using a partition tool still leaves you with someone elses exact work underneath. Not an excuse. Fine (IMO) to post as a image of DB's build, but NOT as 'my custom rom'. Anyone else agree?
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I do believe the reason for the OP deleting was merely the fact that you aren't meant to include GApps (Market, Gmail, Maps etc..) inside ROMS or devices that aren't licensed by Google. That's why you don't see cheap Android tablets with the Android Market on - Google hasn't licensed them too. Same applies to ROMS.
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Do you think that Google would sue the guy over a rom on his nook color he was using for personal use? I don't. I could see it if he was selling the rom or selling nooks he rooted and put the market on. If Google were going to sue it probably would have started a long time ago with all of the devices that have been rooted and the market was put on. Or it would have started when the nc was first rooted and the market was put on it.
Why would they sue? As long as people are using it like they should then google is just MAKING MORE MONEY by us having the market on another device to buy apps with.
Marcusant did google ask you to take your thread down?
Just to clarify, deeper-blue was fine with my work...
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Yep--makes it even shadier-- Here is his math, in base form:
(Deep Blue's build) + (Google's Gapps) + (LauncherPro) = ("MY CUSTOM ROM" WOOT?)
It was wrong on every level.
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By your assessment, Deep Blue is just copying someone else's work too (i.e. Google). I thought the point of this forum is for people to find ways of making our devices work better, or making it easier to make our devices work better?
The only real issue, that I can see here, is that he included the Market. He also made several tweaks (tweaks Deep Blue did not make), including raising the DPI and making it fit on a 2GB card.
This is not supposed to be a site about egos or who's copying who. He gave credit to Deep Blue and this is all that is necessary. He never claimed to have created the whole thing himself.
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Just to clarify, deeper-blue was fine with my work...
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Really???? Maybe you should rethink that statement. There is no record whatsoever of deeperblue ever responding to one of your posts, or questions needing help from him on Xda. Having to communicate with someone that is 'fine with your work' by posting "DEEPER BLUE PLEEEASE READ" messages in their thread should be all the evidence you need. You might want to actually talk to him before making these claims.
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Okay so first of all, let me just say, I have no idea when it comes to creating a theme for any platform, so nothing I post up here will never be created because I just don't 1, have the time to learn how-to and 2, I don't want to learn how to, excuse my ignorance.
However, I do know my way around photoshop, so with a spare hour at work today, I started to create this.
By all means, if someone with the knowledge wants to take a shot at converting this, go for it, just let me know before you do .
*Few more icons added!
*What the homescreen could/might look like.
It's very simple and eye attractive, looks good. i can't do anything though, same as you in that department.
Clearly this isn't going to go anywhere, worth a try though.
Sadly, I do not have any practical experience in this subject, but this topic does have a tutorial on what you need to do http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8504851&postcount=2(the topic currently says that the tutorial is 'temporarily down..' so just keep checking it, I would assume he is modifying the tutorial to make it work with gingerbread roms) To create the battery and the white app slider background, you would need to modify the Framework.res.apk
I think this theme looks great, although I do not know the limitations of themeing in sense 2.1 roms; so may need to ask an experienced themer on which method to take, flashable.zip or Skin Chooser theme.. My best advice is to ask the guy who made the thread I linked to you, as he has converted many themes, if he has the time; and you can supply the images, you'll have a working theme in no time
I already cooked the frameword-res.apk last night, it looks odd because the kitchen doesn't theme the recent apps section so that has got the carbon black look that Sense has, I think the theme would be really nice and clean, and could be done in a variety of colours to treat each persons needs. Simple and effective!
If anyone would like the cooked framework let me know, like I said, it's far from done. We'll call it Version 0.0.0.1
Looks really nice, clean and minimal
Would like to se it finished and in some darker color - greyish
That's what I was just saying, in a variety of colours so each user could choose their own from a selection. Like I said, I'd happily finish creating this but only if it's going to go somewhere.
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That's what I was just saying, in a variety of colours so each user could choose their own from a selection. Like I said, I'd happily finish creating this but only if it's going to go somewhere.
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LOL writing while you posting
Maybe you could pm he_stheone64 about help to do this, he knows his way around theming with the new gingerbread framework. As I understand a few things has changed from the old 2.1 to the new 2.3 release.
Hope this will succeed for you
I don't WANT to approach anyone, if someone has some spare time on their hands and wants something to do, I'm sure someone will say they would like to convert this for us. All I want to know is whether or not I should finish the PSD's, VOYE VOTE VOTE
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I don't WANT to approach anyone, if someone has some spare time on their hands and wants something to do, I'm sure someone will say they would like to convert this for us. All I want to know is whether or not I should finish the PSD's, VOYE VOTE VOTE
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Ohh you misunderstood me I didn't mean that should approach him for him to do this theme, just as a heads up for you to get help on how to theme. My bad I misread your first post
Nah it's cool, don't worry about it lol, if enough people want this finishing, I probably wil contact someone to see if they would like to collaborate on it.
it cool dude it looks facebooky
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it cool dude it looks facebooky
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Hence the 'Inspired' in the title
THEME GUIDE:
(this is just a redirection for those who did not know)
THEMES:
Those using cm7 or roms with the t-mobile theme engine, you might want to take a look at this thread. It contains over 170 themes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056292
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=527
APPLICATIONS:
Those wanting to test new applications by members of xda
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=530
There are a lot of applications being submitted daily and there are a lot of applications which are normally paid on the market but distributed freely to xda members by their authors. check it out
UOT MODS
This is a reminder of the theme kitchen for you guys who want battery mods,custom notification bar, sliders,fonts....
the site is here:
http://uot.dakra.lt/
all u have know what to do is pull your framework and systemUI apks' from your phone and upload it.
from a terminal:
1)connect your phone (usb debugging on)
2)adb remount
3)adb pull /system/framework/framework-res.apk /''directory where you want it''
4)adb pull /system/app/SystemUI.apk /''directory where you want it''
or you could just copy it using root explorer within your phone and past itin ur sdcard.
Just to keep it up.
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hi deeren,
there's already a thread about UOT kitchen in general android themes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=990829
btw it's good to remind it once more,as this kitchen is really awesome
This actually works now for Nexus S? I tried it over and over a few months ago and had no success.
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This actually works now for Nexus S? I tried it over and over a few months ago and had no success.
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yes.provided you upload the framework-res and systemui apk from the rom you are using.
Why don't ypu post this to all theme section, for ex. Htc desire hd theme section, experia arc theme section, etc. So that you hundress thread started as your name.
And you can open a courses for how to make a themes. That will give u a good money as the lecture. LOL
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Why don't ypu post this to all theme section, for ex. Htc desire hd theme section, experia arc theme section, etc. So that you hundress thread started as your name.
And you can open a courses for how to make a themes. That will give u a good money as the lecture. LOL
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Dude I am not interested in starting an immature rant with you. But since you started it , let me tell you something.
The reason i started this thread was to inform people what they could do or not and uncover wise people like you ; unlike you, opening 2 threads with a powerwidget one and a battery mod, both of which you did in the UOT and calling it your mod and for roms you didnt even use (how pathetic is that). Probably if i didnt comment on your thread at that time, by now, you would have had tens of threads with all different combinations of mods from the UOT ( of course for every rom you would find here) and that is probably why you are taking this rant here. lolz.
So please spare me of your useless comments cause you do know what you have done!
I want to give you a heads up ! I think that there are many people that do not know the existence of uot and how easy it is to change a lot of things, like batteryicon, statusbar etc . So i think it was a good idea to point people to uot .. People tend to look no further then the section of their own device.
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Dude I am not interested in starting an immature rant with you. But since you started it , let me tell you something.
The reason i started this thread was to inform people what they could do or not and uncover wise people like you ; unlike you, opening 2 threads with a powerwidget one and a battery mod, both of which you did in the UOT and calling it your mod and for roms you didnt even use (how pathetic is that). Probably if i didnt comment on your thread at that time, by now, you would have had tens of threads with all different combinations of mods from the UOT ( of course for every rom you would find here) and that is probably why you are taking this rant here. lolz.
So please spare me of your useless comments cause you do know what you have done!
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WTF
Hey... remember u started spamming on my thread not me.
And sooo whaattt.... if I made hundress of thread like that? Did I cost u something? Did I ask for your help? The answer is nooo.... and so u can mind ur own business.
And I believe there are mods who can lock useless thread without calling me a noob.
U think I'm an idiot will make hundreds of threads for something that I don't use.
I am pretty busy fot waisting my time to do batremod for every single rom.
Im Not like u that made 1 themes and make yourself on top of everybody else.
Gosh... there are plenty ns users still have problem of installing SDK so that they can root their ns, not to mention they still have to spent hours or maybe days to root their device. And also spent more couple days to able use adb commands. I just tryin to make it simple. But I never call them a noob.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129398
And u can read that thread that people fighting, just because of simply pointing them to uot.
And go here and u can call him a noob becoz posting UOT themes, on DeLL Streaks themes section.
And u can stop calling me a noob and cheater, i am 31 years old man with a bunch of expertise, On Blackberry , iphone mod , and also symbian MOD.
Can u Jailbreak an iphone 4? Can u unlock iphone 4 with baseband 1.59 with IOS 4.1 or 4.2.1 or 4.3.1 ?
Can u delete an OS on blackberry? can u fix a boot loop on blackberry? can u fix nooked blackberry?
Can u make screen animation on symbian? can u Hacked a symbian?
And u already make yourselve the greatest on top of everybody else just because your "Green elegance Theme for oxygen", and under estimate me as a noob and cheater. There are skies above the Sky.
Not even Netarchy or odgobers or morfic or supercurio and others ROM developers will act like you.
But i never under estimate people, and never show off what i've. And also never spamming on anybody threads and post negative comments ( if i dont like with what their have posted)
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WTF
Hey... remember u started spamming on my thread not me.
And sooo whaattt.... if I made hundress of thread like that? Did I cost u something? Did I ask for your help? The answer is nooo.... and so u can mind ur own business.
And I believe there are mods who can lock useless thread without calling me a noob.
U think I'm an idiot will make hundreds of threads for something that I don't use.
I am pretty busy fot waisting my time to do batremod for every single rom.
Im Not like u that made 1 themes and make yourself on top of everybody else.
Gosh... there are plenty ns users still have problem of installing SDK so that they can root their ns, not to mention they still have to spent hours or maybe days to root their device. And also spent more couple days to able use adb commands. I just tryin to make it simple. But I never call them a noob.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129398
And u can read that thread that people fighting, just because of simply pointing them to uot.
And go here and u can call him a noob becoz posting UOT themes, on DeLL Streaks themes section.
And u can stop calling me a noob and cheater, i am 31 years old man with a bunch of expertise, On Blackberry , iphone mod , and also symbian MOD.
Can u Jailbreak an iphone 4? Can u unlock iphone 4 with baseband 1.59 with IOS 4.1 or 4.2.1 or 4.3.1 ?
Can u delete an OS on blackberry? can u fix a boot loop on blackberry? can u fix nooked blackberry?
Can u make screen animation on symbian? can u Hacked a symbian?
And u already make yourselve the greatest on top of everybody else just because your "Green elegance Theme for oxygen", and under estimate me as a noob and cheater. There are skies above the Sky.
Not even Netarchy or odgobers or morfic or supercurio and others ROM developers will act like you.
But i never under estimate people, and never show off what i've. And also never spamming on anybody threads and post negative comments ( if i dont like with what their have posted)
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Clearly you must have meditated a lot before writing this post. Anyway, just point out where did i ever call you noob and i will apologize immediately.
i never called you noob and never doubted you; my only response was why did u open 2 threads for UOT mods and claim something which wasnt yours. that was the only thing i said!
You might be a know-it-all in symbian,apple or whatsoever but things here should be this way imho: when you take something somebody else has worked and developed, you cannot simply call it my mod and even if you do so, you should always give credit to the author!! (which you didnt and that was the whole point).
Clearly my post has affected you deeply and you have been doing your homework very well going through my previous posts and threads and insulting on a personal basis. Unlike you, i wont go that far.Strict on topic, i have said what i thought. Some will disagree with me some wont. Final words.
Can we please just squash the fighting. We have had a pretty good forum, let's keep it that way. This really does not do any good for any of us or our section of the forums. That's just my opinion, but please give it some thought. Thanks.
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Can we please just squash the fighting. We have had a pretty good forum, let's keep it that way. This really does not do any good for any of us or our section of the forums. That's just my opinion, but please give it some thought. Thanks.
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Amen to that sir!
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Can we please just squash the fighting. We have had a pretty good forum, let's keep it that way. This really does not do any good for any of us or our section of the forums. That's just my opinion, but please give it some thought. Thanks.
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I agree 100% on that!
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Clearly you must have meditated a lot before writing this post. Anyway, just point out where did i ever call you noob and i will apologize immediately.
i never called you noob and never doubted you; my only response was why did u open 2 threads for UOT mods and claim something which wasnt yours. that was the only thing i said!
You might be a know-it-all in symbian,apple or whatsoever but things here should be this way imho: when you take something somebody else has worked and developed, you cannot simply call it my mod and even if you do so, you should always give credit to the author!! (which you didnt and that was the whole point).
Clearly my post has affected you deeply and you have been doing your homework very well going through my previous posts and threads and insulting on a personal basis. Unlike you, i wont go that far.Strict on topic, i have said what i thought. Some will disagree with me some wont. Final words.
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Credit goes to the guys who did it. the reason for me opening this thread is just for the newbies and those who do not know of it; cause i have been requested lately for battery mods/transparent pulldowns... and i guess some of u didnt know.
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Your statement there for the newbies , undirectly call me noob(newbies). People who use UOT are newbies right?
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to be honest ,this is just cheating the entire community and the actual mods from UOT. Instead of just selecting icons from the UOT and calling it your mod for a rom you dont even use; if ever you wanted to help the ppl here, you should have posted the link directly to the kitchen available online where everybody could create their owns.
You already did it once with the power widgets, now with the battery icons. why dont you create 20 types of styles for all the different roms here and creating 20 threads here. LOL
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And that statement point me like an idiot by asking me making 20 thread for 20 differ styles.
That was useless sentences just for under estimates people and insults people.
You can advice me or make suggestion if i did wrong by making useless threads, not by directly insults me. i wouldn't be so mad if u did that at the begining. Show some respects to others would 1.000.000 times better than underestimates people.
Maybe you should relax a bit and take a deep breath .. You are taking this way to personal and judging by your posts English isn't your native language (it also isn't my native language), that can easily lead to misunderstandings .. As far as I can read it, he isn't calling you a newbie ( which is not extacly the same as a noob anyway) and he is not calling anybody using uot a newbie .. Newbie in this case is referring to what it means literally , people who are new to the scene and may not know the existence of uot ..no more no less ..
so breath in, breath out , breath in breath out ...
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Maybe you should relax a bit and take a deep breath .. You are taking this way to personal and judging by your posts English isn't your native language (it also isn't my native language), that can easily lead to misunderstandings .. As far as I can read it, he isn't calling you a newbie ( which is not extacly the same as a noob anyway) and he is not calling anybody using uot a newbie .. Newbie in this case is referring to what it means literally , people who are new to the scene and may not know the existence of uot ..no more no less ..
so breath in, breath out , breath in breath out ...
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Yap. I am chilled out. I just tryin to tell dareen no need to give negative comment.
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Yap. I am chilled out. I just tryin to tell dareen no need to give negative comment.
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@Bandis710
thanks for clarifying it out.
@rejanmanis
The comment with the 20 threads.... was a little sarcastic(i agree) but it was meant as a joke but in no way an insult. If you look at it, i clearly put a 'LOL' in the sentense at the end. I didnt mean to insult you. No hard feelings held, please let's move on.
Updated 1st post to turn it into a more concrete thread.