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Hi folks. Yes, I'm another newb but not quite an idiot, and I would love your advice. We've got a new NC for a teenager who loves books but would also appreciate videos and some applications. It's just out of shrink wrap.
From my preliminary reading it sounds as if (a) only NookieFroyo provides Flash support including Flash video, and (b) B&N may be pushing Froyo shortly as stock ROM.
1. Is there any likelihood that B&N will or could in some way use this update (or any update) to prevent subsequent rooting or other hacks?
2. Are all the various mods reversible? Our concern is being able to, at worst case, revert to stock in order to have all original Nook functionality restored, including brick-and-mortar store compatibility (e.g., in-store borrowing) and especially warranty service.
3. Regarding the B&N store, the AutoNooter threads recommend registering with B&N before beginning any changes. Is this necessary, and/or absolutely required, and why? If you register and then root, will that allow you to purchase books, whereas you would not otherwise have been able to?
4. Is there a substantive difference (look, feel, or function) between the process of buying books on the original stock NC versus installing the Nook app for Android on a rooted or modded NC?
5. If one "merely" roots the device and doesn't install CM or NookieFroyo or other ROMs, can one still install apps at will? I'd be fine with sideloading if no Market app were functional.
6. My impression is that the stock NC supports very few applications but that with the upcoming upgrade B&N may be featuring a store. Is it accurate to say that in its stock form the NC is not (yet) much more than a book reader?
7. Regarding AutoNooter, it seems to have forked based on the 1.1 B&N update. Is it better to start at 1.0.1 with the original AutoNooter or to allow the 1.1 upgrade and use the GMPower fork?
8. Is an AutoNooter or other rooting procedure required before CM is applied? I assume so, but only ask because the CM procedure at Cyanogenmod.com (I can't post links yet) doesn't have a rooting step. Maybe it's the case that AutoNooter is for rooting the existing B&N image but that other ROMs can be independently booted from SD? (Told ya I'm a newb.)
9. What, if any, of the stock device's capabilities are lost (reversibly or irreversibly) by rooting and/or modding? (One I wonder about is in-store "free" reading at B&N locations.)
Obviously I'm all over the map, and I apologize. Just trying to figure out the best approach to make the kid happy (e-reading, Youtube, and web browsing would probably suffice) and not end up with a funked out device that can't be used or supported for its original purpose.
Thanks very much in advance.
1. Is there any likelihood that B&N will or could in some way use this update (or any update) to prevent subsequent rooting or other hacks?
To be honest, maybe. But, once you autonooter or install a custom rom B&N cannot OTA update your nook.
2. Are all the various mods reversible? Our concern is being able to, at worst case, revert to stock in order to have all original Nook functionality restored, including brick-and-mortar store compatibility (e.g., in-store borrowing) and especially warranty service.
Yes, there are flashable images that will revert the nook back to out-of-the-box state. look through the Dev forum.
3. Regarding the B&N store, the AutoNooter threads recommend registering with B&N before beginning any changes. Is this necessary, and/or absolutely required, and why? If you register and then root, will that allow you to purchase books, whereas you would not otherwise have been able to?
I think it's something to do with being able to connect to google's services. yes it's necessary when you stay with eclaire, not wirh froyo/CM7/honeycomb. yes, the store works with rooted eclaire.
4. Is there a substantive difference (look, feel, or function) between the process of buying books on the original stock NC versus installing the Nook app for Android on a rooted or modded NC?
you use the store the same way on a rooted-stock nook as you would on a stock one. I don't know how the look feel or function is for the b&n app, I have an original nook for reading.
5. If one "merely" roots the device and doesn't install CM or NookieFroyo or other ROMs, can one still install apps at will? I'd be fine with sideloading if no Market app were functional.
The market works with rooted-stock, but you'll eventually want to install CM7 or Honeycomb, trust me.
6. My impression is that the stock NC supports very few applications but that with the upcoming upgrade B&N may be featuring a store. Is it accurate to say that in its stock form the NC is not (yet) much more than a book reader?
A stock NC is pretty useless for anything other than reading/web surfing
7. Regarding AutoNooter, it seems to have forked based on the 1.1 B&N update. Is it better to start at 1.0.1 with the original AutoNooter or to allow the 1.1 upgrade and use the GMPower fork?
Auto-nooter 3 works just fine for 1.1.0 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942424
8. Is an AutoNooter or other rooting procedure required before CM is applied? I assume so, but only ask because the CM procedure at Cyanogenmod.com (I can't post links yet) doesn't have a rooting step. Maybe it's the case that AutoNooter is for rooting the existing B&N image but that other ROMs can be independently booted from SD? (Told ya I'm a newb.)
No, you do not need to root to install Froyo/CM7/HC. The nook is hard wired to boot the SD-card first if able. You can go straight from stock to CM7 with one flashed micro SD-card.
9. What, if any, of the stock device's capabilities are lost (reversibly or irreversibly) by rooting and/or modding? (One I wonder about is in-store "free" reading at B&N locations.)
This I don't know. I don't use the NC as a reader at all. My Original nook takes care of that.
Hope this helps. Happy modding.
I think all of your questions are easily answered by the FroYo SD card image. You can keep the Nook stock for reading books and warranty purposes and if you want the extras, stick the SD card in. Basically, if you haven't come across this one yet, the NC will boot off of the SD card first, then internal second. So if there's an SD card with a bootable image, you're up and running in froyo. If no SD card you're booting stock. It's a beautiful thing I tell you
So it really is that easy? It will just boot off the SD card out without any modification? Amazing.
That's the kind of thing I'd be worried about them changing or locking (vis a vis my question #1 above). My anxiety is whether to hack NOW to prevent future lockdown, or try to hack LATER after the authorized Froyo push.
Obviously the hacker community has made the NC a very hot item, but if the history of every other repurposed device (video games, DVRs, etc.) is any precedent B&N may not see it as valuable to encourage or allow it to continue.
Edit: But I'm also seeing reports that you do need to root the device in order to boot off the SD?
Thank you for the feedback, woot1524 and devis.
Running any version of android off of an sd card is EXTREMELY slow. You can reverse any hack root or mod made to the nook.. as long as the mod isnt physical ie. You scratch your name into the back of the nook no teenager will want to wait for the time it will take to run it off the sd card.. theyll just get frustrated and give up.
Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 (zoom2)/Tapatalk Pro
woot1524 said:
1. Is there any likelihood that B&N will or could in some way use this update (or any update) to prevent subsequent rooting or other hacks?
To be honest, maybe. But, once you autonooter or install a custom rom B&N cannot OTA update your nook.
2. Are all the various mods reversible? Our concern is being able to, at worst case, revert to stock in order to have all original Nook functionality restored, including brick-and-mortar store compatibility (e.g., in-store borrowing) and especially warranty service.
Yes, there are flashable images that will revert the nook back to out-of-the-box state. look through the Dev forum.
3. Regarding the B&N store, the AutoNooter threads recommend registering with B&N before beginning any changes. Is this necessary, and/or absolutely required, and why? If you register and then root, will that allow you to purchase books, whereas you would not otherwise have been able to?
I think it's something to do with being able to connect to google's services. yes it's necessary when you stay with eclaire, not wirh froyo/CM7/honeycomb. yes, the store works with rooted eclaire.
4. Is there a substantive difference (look, feel, or function) between the process of buying books on the original stock NC versus installing the Nook app for Android on a rooted or modded NC?
you use the store the same way on a rooted-stock nook as you would on a stock one. I don't know how the look feel or function is for the b&n app, I have an original nook for reading.
5. If one "merely" roots the device and doesn't install CM or NookieFroyo or other ROMs, can one still install apps at will? I'd be fine with sideloading if no Market app were functional.
The market works with rooted-stock, but you'll eventually want to install CM7 or Honeycomb, trust me.
6. My impression is that the stock NC supports very few applications but that with the upcoming upgrade B&N may be featuring a store. Is it accurate to say that in its stock form the NC is not (yet) much more than a book reader?
A stock NC is pretty useless for anything other than reading/web surfing
7. Regarding AutoNooter, it seems to have forked based on the 1.1 B&N update. Is it better to start at 1.0.1 with the original AutoNooter or to allow the 1.1 upgrade and use the GMPower fork?
Auto-nooter 3 works just fine for 1.1.0 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942424
8. Is an AutoNooter or other rooting procedure required before CM is applied? I assume so, but only ask because the CM procedure at Cyanogenmod.com (I can't post links yet) doesn't have a rooting step. Maybe it's the case that AutoNooter is for rooting the existing B&N image but that other ROMs can be independently booted from SD? (Told ya I'm a newb.)
No, you do not need to root to install Froyo/CM7/HC. The nook is hard wired to boot the SD-card first if able. You can go straight from stock to CM7 with one flashed micro SD-card.
9. What, if any, of the stock device's capabilities are lost (reversibly or irreversibly) by rooting and/or modding? (One I wonder about is in-store "free" reading at B&N locations.)
This I don't know. I don't use the NC as a reader at all. My Original nook takes care of that.
Hope this helps. Happy modding.
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Your answer for number 1 and 8 apply to each other. Since the Nook is hardwired to boot from uSD, there will almost surely be rooted ROMS for it. Hope that helps clarify this point.
Oh yea, and as far as what to do for a teen...
I would go with Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 eMMC. Download and have the image to return to stock ready to go, just in case. And then be patient for when CM7 is finally cooked.
Be prepared to do most of the tinkering with NF to get it right BEFORE you give it to your teen. Once you get everything working(market, youtube, etc), then it should be ready for him/her. I have been using NF for a bit now, and once I got everything working it is great. read the forums here for a bit and you will get an idea of just how good these babies can be.
be prepared for the usual ....it's not the Xoom, an ipad, etc arguments and complaints...it's a teen you are dealing with(basing from my experiences only, with my daughter...aren't they great?).
luciferii said:
Running any version of android off of an sd card is EXTREMELY slow. You can reverse any hack root or mod made to the nook.. as long as the mod isnt physical ie. You scratch your name into the back of the nook no teenager will want to wait for the time it will take to run it off the sd card.. theyll just get frustrated and give up.
Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 (zoom2)/Tapatalk Pro
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Not for me. I find it quite fast and very usable. No issues whatsoever with it being slow.
One thing to do is to install LCD Density and change the screen density to 200 or 220 for added smoothness. It doesnt change the resolution, just the size of items on the screen to bigger and everything flows together very nicely.
The SD card 0.6.8 is my daily driver lately, I use it for work and personal email, news, reading, games, Slingbox watching... it's great. not sure what is this slowness you're talking about.
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So it really is that easy? It will just boot off the SD card out without any modification? Amazing.
That's the kind of thing I'd be worried about them changing or locking (vis a vis my question #1 above). My anxiety is whether to hack NOW to prevent future lockdown, or try to hack LATER after the authorized Froyo push.
Obviously the hacker community has made the NC a very hot item, but if the history of every other repurposed device (video games, DVRs, etc.) is any precedent B&N may not see it as valuable to encourage or allow it to continue.
Edit: But I'm also seeing reports that you do need to root the device in order to boot off the SD?
Thank you for the feedback, woot1524 and devis.
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No need to root to run it off of SD. Just pop it in and go.
devis said:
Not for me. I find it quite fast and very usable. No issues whatsoever with it being slow.
One thing to do is to install LCD Density and change the screen density to 200 or 220 for added smoothness. It doesnt change the resolution, just the size of items on the screen to bigger and everything flows together very nicely.
The SD card 0.6.8 is my daily driver lately, I use it for work and personal email, news, reading, games, Slingbox watching... it's great. not sure what is this slowness you're talking about.[/QUOTE
You don't have issues with the sleep of death and wifidisconnects?
That is what turned me off of froyo for Nook
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i would just root it and leave it stock.
if the teen wants to learn how to flash let 'em have at it. you can't brick a nook
xdabr said:
Hi folks. Yes, I'm another newb but not quite an idiot, and I would love your advice. We've got a new NC for a teenager who loves books but would also appreciate videos and some applications. It's just out of shrink wrap.
From my preliminary reading it sounds as if (a) only NookieFroyo provides Flash support including Flash video, and (b) B&N may be pushing Froyo shortly as stock ROM.
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well im a teenager and i can tell you that if said teen wants full video support said teen should stick on stock nook OS but rooted but if said teen wants something that runs well but with an amazing UI i recommend HC
as a teen i dont really need flash to much but it is nice to have but pretty much i used flash for youtube on the web but now that youtube streams in HTML5 on their mobile site i feel like i didnt need it as much
Beat them with it.
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devis said:
Not for me. I find it quite fast and very usable. No issues whatsoever with it being slow.
One thing to do is to install LCD Density and change the screen density to 200 or 220 for added smoothness. It doesnt change the resolution, just the size of items on the screen to bigger and everything flows together very nicely.
The SD card 0.6.8 is my daily driver lately, I use it for work and personal email, news, reading, games, Slingbox watching... it's great. not sure what is this slowness you're talking about.[/QUOTE
You don't have issues with the sleep of death and wifidisconnects?
That is what turned me off of froyo for Nook
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SOD nope... not at all. Have yet to experience it. WIFI disconnects, yes... well, mostly the WIFI dance when it switches itself from off to on and to off and back to on again. But a reboot fixes it, so no biggie. There is actually a fix for it but me being the lazy bum that I am haven't gotten around to fixing it. And i'm reluctant to change to the newer image because this one runs so well why fix what ain't broke.
to OP... if you still dont know what to do with it, give it to me
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Btw, not all sd cards are alike. The ones who are complaining about Froyo running slowly off the sd card are probably not using a fast enough sd card. I suggest getting the Transcend 8 gb class 6 microSDHC card. I'm getting 13 MB/s write and 15 MB/s read speeds which is above class 10 specs.
I'm still in slight shock that you can dual boot without making ANY changes at all to the device, without so much as a BIOS tweak.
So it sounds as if you could even grab the display model or a friend's device, boot it off your SD to use Android for a while, and then just hand it back COMPLETELY unchanged, with all original functionality and data intact. That's just too easy!
The gist I'm getting is that even if B&N root locks the internal storage's OS in future updates, it's unlikely the SD card boot option will go away?
Thanks to everyone for all the feedback. (I ran out of Thanks credit.)
Forgive me for the intrusion, but I have a question for you all. Looking at the various threads and screen shots, it appears that most are using a rooted nook rather than honeycomb or froyo; is this accurate?
My story:
I was in Best-buy the other day shopping tablets (Xoom, Galaxy, iPad, etc) and someone was walking by and said "Hey, save money, get a NC." Of course I was like, what? I'm no stranger to Linux, servers, and basic programming but tablets and android is uncharted territory for me. So, after this guy did some basic explaining I was like "half price, and near limitless customization? Yeah thats for me!"
So here I am, been browsing this website for a few days trying to decide how I should go about 'unlocking' my NC. Do I use some sort of root kit to just unlock the 'stock' system? Do I use 'Froyo' on a SD card? What about this honeycomb thing, should I use that?
Like I said, it appears from screenshots most people are still using the basic NC system, that has maybe just been rooted to run apps and such from the market? I'm sorry for sounding dumb, I'm really not, just not sure what route is best for me, or the best choice. I am a fast learner, I just don't want to spend weeks learning something only to realize I was learning the wrong thing for what I need.
What I've gathered so far:
Stock rooted NC - will do fine for most users. Launcher Pro, Pandora, YouTube, browsing, games, gmail, etc. What about GPS? Google Maps?
Froyo - Same as above, some cosmetic differences, bells and whistles only advantage?
Honeycomb - Culmination of the previous two lists?
Insight welcome please?
Signed,
Work in progress.
It may be a little over half the price... But the Nook color is half the speed of the Motorola Xoom. So if you really have the money, I would return the nook color and just get a xoom, you'll be happier with it. If you're looking for just something to surf the net, and play a few games or programs, then the NC is a decent choice.
I use CM7 nightlys. CM7 is in my opinion the best rom, it allows bluetooth support and flash. It can be overclocked to 1190mhz. And has a lot of options for customizations.
HC is limited to a preview sdk build until google decides to let others have the final source, which could be a while... (Motorola Xoom comes with it installed)
Froyo is limited in a lot of regards, and CM7 is far better and offers a lot more support for programs and hardware. That said... Some people feel Froyo is better than CM7, but they're essentially the same underlining OS.
Individuals requirements vary, but since you asked I will give my two cents:
CyanogenMod 7
While it is currently not released as "stable" but only nightly builds, the nightlies are extremely good. Phiremod is based on the nightlies and adds some nice stuff, but is also slightly behind since the nightly has to be released before it can be customized.
The latest is CM7 nightly 32 right now (http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=nightly&device=encore) but it changes almost every day.
A Video Test build was just released that has YouTube working in all its glory (? Did I really type that?) so the video issues should be a thing of the past in a few days. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960537
The same dev has an overclock kernel which gets the cpu up to 1100mhz and adds the interactive governor- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451
And another guy took a great idea and ran with it: adding Tablet Tweaks to CM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002000
I generally run the latest nightly with an oc kernel but now that the Tablet Tweaks has made so much progress, my routine is like this:
Flash latest nightly
Flash Tablet Tweaks
Flash OC kernel
Don't let the "nightly" status of CM7 put you off too much- the CyanogenMod team are perfectionists and won't call a rom Stable until it is PERFECT.
Right now the nightlies are better than any fresh install of Windows I have ever seen, for example....
I wouldn't go to honeycomb as a permanent solution now - it is reasonably good but still experimental with problems running full tablet applications.
I'm using Froyo but will switch over to CM7 shortly. At one point, froyo was more stable (two weeks back - things change fast) with working video and flash. CM7 has come along quickly and its time to move on. Having said that - both of these require some fiddling to get working properly. This is not a no-frustration experience - if you are comfortable with sorting out linux-like issues it won't be too bad. Fun if you like tinkering with gadgets.
Rooted stock is stable, adds the open android market to the the stock B&N experience which includes a very nice reader. If you upgrade beyond stock you will lose the reader which has some desireable features like "borrowing a book" in the store, magazines and newspapers. Not working on froyo, cm7, or hc.
I'd agree that cm7 is probably the best compromise at this point - at least for me. You will still be flashing gapps and wondering where certain apps or wallpapers are in the market.
Xoom or galaxy tab actually work (largely) without customization today. Closer to an ipad experience in that it works out of the box. Nook color can largely replicate those functions but you'll do a little work setting it up.
Peter
I would not trade the NC for the Xoom just because the Xoom is so ridiculously overpriced IMO. Personally, I would go with stock rooted. If you find that you are wanting to do something with it that you cannot do on stock rooted, then look for something else like Nookie Froyo or Honeycomb (which is still a little half baked on the NC IMO).
Wonderful advice and well said. Thank you much for everyone's time, I above anyone else know how precious every second is.
'Sorting out linux and tinkering' is exactly on point, I've been doing that very thing for about 12 years now. I like to consider myself an avid enthusiast rather than full throttle geek. Anyway, I think I'll study the route of stock rooted and further my knowledge on full flash before taking that plunge.
That being said, one more question and I'll let you all get back to more important things. I should be right in assuming just follow the steps in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872490 or the v3.* thread to fully root the stock NC and have google apps, market, etc up and running? From what I've read, this auto-nooter has pretty much all of it built in already; Gmail, Market, root-kit etc.
PS: Wonderful site, very informative.
Signed,
Work in Progress.
LarcenQ said:
Stock rooted NC - will do fine for most users. Launcher Pro, Pandora, YouTube, browsing, games, gmail, etc. What about GPS? Google Maps?
Froyo - Same as above, some cosmetic differences, bells and whistles only advantage?
Honeycomb - Culmination of the previous two lists?
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I'm in your same boat (I recently started with Nookie Froyo on SD so I can leave the Nook alone, but am just learning what else needs to be done to fix some buggy behavior.)
One thing to understand is that there are multiple versions of Android. The Nook Color still ships with Android 2.1 (Eclair). They are supposed to be pushing out 2.2 (Froyo) in a few days. The Cyanogenmod (CM7) people are using 2.3 (Gingerbread). And the NookieFroyo folks are of course using 2.2. I have no idea what Phiremod is. As expected, the later versions of Android tend to have more features/work better.
The 3.0 version of Android, Honeycomb, is still the most experimental and apparently doesn't work that well with the Nook Color yet. Worse, Google has decided to hold back the latest source code of this "open source" project for now, meaning that only the Xoom can run the thing. But it's the only Android version with true tablet support.
As to GPS,the Nook Color does NOT have a GPS chip, so regardless of Android version you can get GPS coordinates only by rough calculation based on a WiFi database or by tethering to a GPS device or GPS-equipped cell phone.
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I have no idea what Phiremod is.
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Phiremod is based on CM7 nightlies with some very nice customizations.
Yup -- Xoom overpriced. Unless you've a burning desire to be on the cutting edge, I'd go with the Nook Color and wait out the pricing on Android tablets. They are bound to come down.
Also, a couple of key points:
Barnes & Noble is theoretically going to push an upgrade sometime in April that will include Flash capability and some sort of Market. No details on the market. However if they're smart there will be a host of apps available that we all know will run on the Nook (because we've rooted and downloaded them). This new stock configuration may be all that a lot of people want or need.
If you are determined, however, remember that this forum is like a big toy store and can be confusing. You can run stock internally and dual boot into a fast SD card to run virtually any other configuration. Or, you can flash the internal rom and run most of these variation on the OS internally.
Here's the relevant point: When booting, the Nook Color looks first at the SD drive. That's very cool, because it allows us to do a whole bunch of fun stuff.
I'm currently running rooted stock internally and CM7 (the version with working Bluetooth) off a SD card. Truth be told I typically boot into CM7 because it works so well -- even for reading B&N Nook books. I use a little variation that allows hard key dual booting. There is a brandy new release of CM7 that resolves some video issues and I'll update to that.
However, the CM7 releases do not include the Google stuff, including the Market, so you have to load those via ADB (Android Development Bridge) which means setting up your computer with an Android development environment -- something very doable and free, but it takes some time to get it all working right.
The holy grail is probably Honeycomb, the Android version specifically designed with tablets in mind. There is a development version of Honeycomb that actually works pretty well, but it's not fully fleshed out just yet. I've got it running on a separate SD and it's very cool, but lacks some functionality. Once it's fully developed that will be my daily OS for sure.
One of my wants and needs is to be able to use an external folding keyboard. The only version floating around right now that supports the Nook's built-in Bluetooth (unused by B&N) is a release of CM7 -- and it works. I can use the nifty Freedom Pro keyboard and it's really pretty good -- no excessive lag.
Hopefully that's enough to get you going. I'd say -- given the overwhelming wealth of information on this forum -- keep your Nook stock until after B&N pushes the update. In the meantime, get a good fast SD card and use that to mess with your pick of Android versions offered here. Pick just one and than tunnel down into the forum to work with it at first.
Happy Nooking!
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I'm currently running rooted stock internally and CM7 (the version with working Bluetooth) off a SD card.
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Thank you! I wanted to try this CM7 tonight when I got home, however, I do not want to wipe/tamper with my onboard nook, and everything I've read about CM7 you have to install on internal memory. Is there a link to the instructions on booting CM7 from the sd card?
Thanks in advance!
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Getting somewhere.
Yup -- I'll track it down. Stay tuned.
Here's a thread that sets up a SD card to run CM7 with working Bluetooth. Read the whole thread before you start (some good simple instructions are in there):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
Be aware that Google stuff and the Market are not included -- you'll have to install those via ADB (and there are full instructions on how to set up and do that on this forum.
Or -- a newer option that looks pretty cool (and avoids having to use ADB to get the Market):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
I think I'll try this on a spare SD card and see how it all works out.
There are hardware differences to consider too.
NC is 7 inch screen, vs 10 inch for XOOM and some other tablet.
Then size and weight.
Also NC doesn't have cameras, the others may have one or two...
And NC doesn't have mic, although bluetooth headset may work.
I am happy with my NC for its price and what I need.
robedney said:
Here's a thread that sets up a SD card to run CM7 with working Bluetooth. Read the whole thread before you start (some good simple instructions are in there):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
Be aware that Google stuff and the Market are not included -- you'll have to install those via ADB (and there are full instructions on how to set up and do that on this forum.
Or -- a newer option that looks pretty cool (and avoids having to use ADB to get the Market):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1000957
I think I'll try this on a spare SD card and see how it all works out.
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Much obliged! I'll give this a try tonight once I get home from work. God I love mature people instead of 'scr3w yu n00b!'.
Signed,
Getting there.
Just make your of which Stock ROM you have (1.0.0, 1.0.1, 1.1.0). Each Nooter is made specifically for each ROM.
Also, as far as Gapps is concerned, there is no need to use ADB. All of it can be installed easily via ClockworkRecovery. ADB stuff is fun, but not needed to get full blown CM7 w/gapps and everything else.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1000957.html
just used this for a SD bootable CM7. I'm running rooted 2.1 for daily use and testing out the different options via SD bootable builds. fyi, this also allows the install of google apps without ADB.
HI,
One question for you:
What do you want to use the Nook for mainly?
Toy/Playing/learning/Android Apps/Web/eBooks... CM7 (Nightlies)
eBook reader mainly... Perhaps stock rooted.
Lots of video/Flash? Not sure which, perhaps Froyo. CM7 soon.
Require bluetooth? CM7
One immediate advantage for rooting is access to other eBook reader
applications, such as Kindle.
Don't forget to look at/select a soft button approach that you like,
Android is expecting more than the one button at the bottom. I like
Button Savior from the market, but there are a variety of other solutions.
It is handy to have a bunch of SDcards on hand too, I never seem to have
enough of them. Don't forget that when you move to an internal memory
version of, say, Cyanogenmod7, that you need a SD card for data too.
Good luck, the NC is a fun toy!
Peter
envygreen said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1000957.html
just used this for a SD bootable CM7. I'm running rooted 2.1 for daily use and testing out the different options via SD bootable builds. fyi, this also allows the install of google apps without ADB.
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We're in dire need of a single (maintained) collection of all these pre-built SD card images -- is there such a posting?
Hunting through the forum is not as much fun as it seems.
EDIT: Looks like there's a list of ROMs at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872003
DOH!
Read post carefully BEFORE replying!
lol
Alright so I have a Nook color and desperatley would like to try the Android OS on it. But I have never really toyed around with it on anything before....but it really intrigues me.
What kernel works best?? I saw another thread about wi-fi issues is this prevelant??
Thanks so much!
Well, you are running Android -- that's what Barnes and Noble uses. The downside is that they've limited it, so you can't do things like get apps from the Android Market.
The easiest first step is to root your NC using the latest version of Autonooter (search the forum). Prior to doing that, you need to make sure your Nook Color is running the latest official update from B&N (check the B&N website under Nook Color/Support). Autonooter (with a big thanks to those who contribute to it) is a quick and simple way to get going.
That will give you full access to the version of Android on the Nook (2.1 if I recall), as well as the Market apps. Play with that for awhile, then start exploring the other Android versions -- which you can run off of a SD card as a separate OS to make sure they work for you (then flash to rom is you want to).
Right now I'd vote for CM7 with working Bluetooth as the most useful OS available on this forum. The latest version also fixes video issues. Another version of CM7 is Phiremod, nicely packaged with some additions (CM7 is still in development -- so Phiremod won't typically use the latest CM7 version, which is OK).
Most of all, learn to use the search function on this forum -- it will save you lots of time!
As far as performance...is the Nook comparable to many tablets?
I agree that autonooter is the best first step. Use a launcher to get a 'feel" for android and if you're happy don't go any further. If you feel you want the "full" experience, than I also agree that CM7 is the way to go. Also, installing CM7 is pretty easy if you follow the guild on the Nook Color wiki via http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/nook-color
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As far as performance...is the Nook comparable to many tablets?
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This isn't an easy question to answer because it's about half the performance of the Xoom and new Galaxy Tabs that are coming out, but there is nothing that pushes the hardware yet. For an early adopter of android tablets, I think the nook is perfect because it preforms great and the price tag cannot be beat!
Compared to other non-official tablets, it out preforms them in some ways, specifically the screen. THe nook uses the best (I think?) type of touch screen and offers a great viewing angle.
Autonooter 3 -- something is definitely wrong.
Used auto-nooter 3 on our 1.1 NC. Computer runs slackware. md5sum was correct. Burned it to a Patriot class 10 8GB microSD card. Inserted the card, plugged in the USB. After the android showed up NOTHING happened as described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942424.
There was no "sign in" at the Android welcome screen to skip.
No "location services"
Wandered around logging into youtube and gmail. Youtube has both a user name and a user gmail account. Tried both.
Gmail account(s) refused to sync.
Market opened, and we attempted to download several free apps --
Got some sort of 'downloading' message, but nothing ever did. Progress meter, if that's what it was, showed no movement at all.
More...
Restored it and tried again. Twice. Slightly different results, but NEVER able to download from the Market.
It's obvious that SOMETHING is wrong, I just have no idea what it might be.
I'm ready, willing and able to follow instructions, but when what I see bears no relationship to the instructions given I have problems.
I hope it's obvious to somebody what I'm doing wrong, because I'm stumped.
Bev999 said:
Used auto-nooter 3 on our 1.1 NC.
I hope it's obvious to somebody what I'm doing wrong, because I'm stumped.
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I used Autonooter 3.0 and it worked for me. Check your wifi. If it shows connecting/disconnecting, it's a wifi problem - especially if the download progessing bar is not moving. See my note in wifi http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11458921&postcount=1
Hi all,
My wife just got a Nook Color for Christmas and I'm itching to root it. Both of our OG evos are rooted and I'm fairly competent with customizing the ever living crap out of them (I'm running MIUI and love it).
I'm looking for suggestions for a cool but most importantly STABLE setup for her nook color. I see there aren't as many options as the Evo, and the rooting process seems a bit more involved, but I'm sure I can figure that part out.
I already ran the 1.41 update and read all of the basic steps for root. She doesn't want to lose the B&N functionality (not sure why), so is my best bet just to root it with a bootable SD without loading CWM recovery? Using manualnooter that would just leave her with the B&N functions but would also install an alternate launcher and allow her to install android market and 3rd party apps, correct?
I've done quite a bit of reading up but I just want to get some opinions...she's afraid I'm going to "mess it up" like I've done to my evo quite a few times, but its never been anything a clean wipe can't fix so I don't see the issue haha.
Thanks everyone!
Your best bet is CM7.1 on a SD card. Just make sure that's an SanDisk Class 4 card, otherwise the performance will be quite miserable. Just grep the CM7.1 zip, the latest gapps-gb zip and greens sd installer and do it. You will be done in 15 min and you will never go back. I got my NC also for x-mas and used CM7.1 on a SD card for 2 days before I installed it on the internal memory (emmc).
ss12108 said:
[...] I already ran the 1.41 update and read all of the basic steps for root. She doesn't want to lose the B&N functionality (not sure why), so is my best bet just to root it with a bootable SD without loading CWM recovery?
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I've rooted 1.4.1 on my Nook Color and blocked further updates. It's provides what I refer to as the "B&N Walled Garden (with a gate)". It's straight B&N in terms of functionality, and all the B&N functions (subscriptions, Conde Nast mags and enhanced books,free read-in-store) work fine. If she intends to use any of the B&N content, it's a nice experience. If she doesn't, then, frankly, you can do a lot more a lot more easily with Cyanogenmod loaded on it.
Using manualnooter that would just leave her with the B&N functions but would also install an alternate launcher and allow her to install android market and 3rd party apps, correct?
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If you root the B&N software, yes.
Alternately, you could load Cyanogenmod either internally on eMMC (replacing B&N), or externally, in a dual-boot SD configuration, which would let you leave the BN setup stock or rooted. The two remain completely separate from each other.
I've done quite a bit of reading up but I just want to get some opinions...she's afraid I'm going to "mess it up" like I've done to my evo quite a few times, but its never been anything a clean wipe can't fix so I don't see the issue haha.
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The NC is pretty bullet-proof. If you decide to root B&N firmware, be sure to block automatic OTA updates, or it will self-destruct when they push an update, and it will be your fault, buster!
I've rooted my wife's new Nook Tablet, and she's quite enamored with it. Adding functionality from the Market has been a big plus, and I've got her music synchronized with our Google TV setup as well.
Thanks both of you. I went the route of booting CM7 from the SD card and it was actually really easy and runs pretty flawlessly. Unfortunately my wife is a pain and doesn't seem to appreciate how much better it is so she just sticks with the stock stuff 99% of the time haha. I might have to get my own now just out of principle!
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You can always add a few Market apps to her mostly-stock setup with the Nook Color App Manager. I used it to add a few apps to my wife's rooted Nook Tablet. If I hadn't told her, she'd have thought those were stock apps.
But yeah, definitely get your own!
bobstro said:
I've rooted 1.4.1 on my Nook Color and blocked further updates.
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How did you block updates? I've seen several mentions about doing this but nothing definitive. Thanks!
zogg44 said:
How did you block updates? I've seen several mentions about doing this but nothing definitive. Thanks!
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I edited devicemanager.db using SQLite. Open devicemanager.db and change registry->com.bn.device.fota.mode from "auto" to "manual".
That's all I've done, and no further OTA updates. There are more involved methods, but this seems to work.
I have done my NC and a couple of others, here are the steps I am using for IMHO the ultimate NC setup, FYI. This guide is adapted from the guide posted for installing CM7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227 with many of my own extra steps. I recommend reading the original guide first.
I get an average of >12 hours battery life with very stable performance with these settings on my NC.
In short, this is how I think the Nook Color should have been done from the beginning. I have attempted to balance some goals that are pretty common to other users. This guide walks you through steps that will accomplish all of these goals, but you may decide to keep some and skip others.
Here is what this will do:
Root your Nook Color and put a variant of CM7 ROM on it. This is an "AOSP", or "generic Android" installation. Nook Color comes standard with Android under the covers of B&N's launcher and suite of apps. Many of the tweaks and advantages in this guide cannot be had without first abandoning B&N's standard OS in favor of CM7.
Enhance performance by overclocking. The Nook Color is 800MHz max clock rate from the factory, and this guide will allow it to run at 1.2GHz (50% faster), along with tweaking the governor settings to ensure you do not sacrifice battery life.
Improve battery life. My goal was to have a device that I can use on flights between Austin, TX and Europe to read books or watch movies without access to a power outlet. I believe I have achieved that goal.
Enhance stability. While many ROMs (such as the new ICS work) may favor bells & whistles and tinkering over stability, I want my device to be rock solid and never, ever crash. The goal here is a device that *just works*, much like Apple devices are known to *just work*.
Smooth and responsive UI. One common complaint of Android devices vs. Apple stuff is on smoothness and responsiveness of the UI, in particular scrolling, screen switching, etc. Glitchy or erratic movements, abrupt or stuttery scrolling, etc. all gives a feeling of poor quality or lack of "polish" IMHO, and I have made an effort to fix this flaw in Android on the NC, mostly because the hacky feel distracts from my enjoyment of the device.
Flexibility and efficient use of storage. My guide will swap the /emmc and /sdcard mountpoints as well as repartition the internal memory of the NC, with the goal of efficiently utilizing the internal storage space, and allowing the SD card to be used in a more portable fashion, not required for operation but interchangeable. Mostly this is because for me, I have a LOT of music and limited space on my 32GB SD card for other media. But on long trips, I may want to bring along movies to watch and they are far more portable when put on tiny microSD cards. So I want to be able to change SD cards and change the media content on my NC, without having to reboot or lose access to some apps.
NOTE
These instructions will root your device and install a variant of CM7 onto your Nook Color in the internal memory, EMMC. This will destroy the original (stock) Operating System and you will lose whatever you had in your Nook Color before the install. It is destructive and likely difficult to reverse. If you have reservations about changing it or wish to change back, don't use these instructions. Try someone else's less-permanent means of doing so. You may screw up a step or I may have missed something, or your NC may not respond like I expect, so if you brick your Nook, then you are on your own. There is no warranty included with these instructions.
These instructions are for those of you who want a smooth, fast and stable NC Android experience, with exceptional battery life as well as efficient usage of internal and external storage. IMHO, this is how they should have done it from the factory. Someone else likely figured out a better way, but this is my way, and it works for me. You do this at your own risk.
This is not for those of you who want the Barnes & Noble experience. And this is certainly not for those of you who are on the fence about whether to re-flash. As far as I know, there is no going back, or if there is, it probably is hard to do. I don't know, because I never considered it.
There. Now you're on your own
Also NOTE
I am not the developer of the ROMs, image files, tools for repartitioning, or any of the other stuff mentioned here. I simply am noting my method for doing the installation and settings. Full credit and thanks are due to all of the original developers of this content.
mr72's setup guide:
Power up your brand new Nook Color and register the device. Note: I have seen a few refurb NCs that needed to be returned... don't skip registering it! Might save you some heartache.
You will need two SD cards: the "boot SD", which will be used to install clockworkmod, the OS, and google apps; a "data SD" which will be used to install the repartitioning scripts and then can be used for data storage. You can use the same SD card for both, but you may want to reformat it after using it to install the OS. IMHO, 1G and 2G microSD cards are cheap and it makes sense to make the "boot SD" on one of these and keep it around for recovery, using a much larger microSD (16GB or 32GB) for data storage later.
Use Win32DiskImager to write the 1gb_clockwork-3.2.0.1-eyeballer.zip image to the boot SD. You must run Win32DiskImager as administrator!
Copy the following files to the "boot SD" which you prepared with Win32DiskImager (Note: do not unzip them.):
A. The CM7.20 Stable ROM
B. gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
Copy the following files to the "data SD" card (Note: don't unzip these either.):
reformatData-v1.zip
repartition2GBdata-v1.zip
Power off your Nook. Put the "boot SD" card in (the one with the 1gb_clockwork image), and then power it back on. It should boot into ClockworkMod Recovery ("CWM").
Navigate in CWM using the volume up/down keys to go up and down, N button to accept, power button to go back.
Optional: Now is a good time to back up the factory OS. Use "Backup" from the ClockworkMod menu.
Go back and navigate to "Install .zip from sdcard", then "Choose .zip"
Flash the files in this order:
1. update-cm-7.1.0-encore-signed.zip
2. gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
Once you've flashed the files, in the ClockworkMod main menu select "wipe data/factory reset"
Go back to the main menu, remove the "boot SD" card and put in your data SD card. Choose "Reboot system now", which should boot into CyanogenMod (CM7). Note, it requires an SD card to boot at this time.
Once you boot into CM7, you must add your Google account, which will require wifi access. You can set up wifi by using the menu on the status bar. It may be kind of tricky to set up the wifi and get through the wizard. But it will eventually work.
Go to the market and search for "ROM Manager", and install the latest version.
Then just open up Rom Manager from the app drawer and hit "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" and choose "Nook Color". It's on the list, even though the list may not be in any discernible order.
Optional: While in the market, you probably want "ES File Explorer", makes life easier when trying to navigate files.
Reboot into recovery, and back up the current ROM. Seriously, now make a backup. This is a basic starting point before you add apps and do a lot of tricky stuff, so this is an excellent place to make a backup that may save you later.
Install the reformat/repartition using precise instructions in this thread
Follow the instructions to use custom 1.96GB "/data", 4+GB "/media" partitioning to the precise detail.
This process is destructive and may feel quite risky. I suppose it is! So be careful and don't make a mistake here. It is worth it. By repartitioning you will wind up with 2GB of space for apps (vs. 1GB stock) and the other 4GB is usable as temp storage (like an SD card). This will also allow you to run your Nook Color with no SD card installed, plus hot-swap SD cards with no effect on running apps.
Now, back to Menu -> Settings -> CyanogenMod Settings
Application
- uncheck "Allow application moving"
- Install location: "Internal"
- check "Use internal storage"
- uncheck "Permission management"Note: This will cause the SD card to be mounted at /emmc and the internal 4G partition will be mounted at /sdcard. The result of this is your actual SD card does not have to be installed in order for the NC to work, apps that require /sdcard for storage will use the internal memory. This also means your SD card can be "clean", with only media on it, and interchangeable so you can have more than one SD card with content. The 2GB partition will be used for apps. You will have a hard time running out of application storage space with 2GB.
If you didn't repartition, then you will have 5GB for apps and only 1GB will be used for /sdcard stuff, which IMHO, is too little space for the /sdcard temp/settings storage, and way more than you can ever use for apps (certainly if your apps require sdcard space). So the repartition is IMHO necessary to make the sd/emmc swap feasible.
Install the V6 Supercharger script, update 8. Download it and use ES File Explorer or other tool to move it to the root level of the SD card partition (/mnt/sdcard). You will have to run the script in Terminal Emulator with the following commands:
su
cd /mnt/sdcard
sh V*
0
9
16 Note: this changes the way apps' memory is managed and results in more available memory for the active app more often. This makes things faster. However, you may find that it winds up killing background apps more frequently, so there is a tradeoff. So if you pause your Angry Birds game and go do web surfing for a couple of hours, Angry Birds may have to restart when you return to it rather than staying in memory the whole time. FYI.
Also Note: There are some other tweaks floating around that are said to improve performance; in my observation, they do not really improve it, and they are not necessarily persistent across boots. The V6 Supercharger does the trick, and doesn't require anything else to get the job done, IMHO.
Some performance tweaks, if you want iPad-like scrolling and smoothness and 12+ hours of battery:
Menu -> Settings -> CyanogenMod Settings
Performance (say OK to the "Dragons ahead" warning)
- CPU Settings
- Governor: InteractiveX, min 300, max 1200, set on boot checked. Note: the Conservative governor may result in better battery life, InteractiveX will result in a more responsive device. I switch between the two depending on whether I need long battery life, such as on a long flight where I plan to read or watch movies. - Use JIT - checked
- Enable surface dithering - checked
- Use 16bit transparency - checked
- Allow purging of assets - checked
- Lock home in memory - checked
- Lock messaging app in memory - unchecked (there is no messaging on a NC) You will have to reboot for these to take effect.
Undervolt/Frequency settings (this improves battery):
Run the Nook Tweaks app
CPU Settings
Clock Settings
CPU Stepping 1: 350mhz
CPU Stepping 2: 600mhz
CPU Stepping 3: 800mhz
CPU Stepping 4: 1000mhz
CPU Stepping 5: 1200mhz
Set on boot: Checked Voltage Settings
Stepping 1: 0.925v
Stepping 2: 1.05v
Stepping 3: 1.2v
Stepping 4: 1.275v
Stepping 5: 1.325v
Note: you can set the CPU minimum to 300 MHz to eek out a tiny bit more battery but when I do this, I get occasional SOD that are alleviated completely by using 350 MHz min.
I continue to update this whenever I have something meaningful to report. The truth is that for months now I have just basically been using my Nook Color regularly with no problems whatsoever, so this doesn't really require regular attention. Once ICS is fully-baked, I am sure I will come up with an alternative using ICS. For now, this setup appears to be rocking.
With this setup, with wifi disabled I achieved over 17 hours of battery life while reading ebooks with Moon+ Reader and the screen on (not night mode, this is white background, black text, and brightness about 10%). I also got about 10 hours of battery while watching movies. I think this is pretty great battery performance.
UPDATES CM10!
I have completed my experiments with CM10 and CM10.1 and (drum roll!)... they are not good choices IMHO for NC.
Battery life was about 1/2 on CM10 or CM10.1 what it was with CM7.20 and performance was very sluggish. Web browsing in particular is almost useless. I found I ONLY used my NC for reading books (since Moon+ Reader worked just fine) and I seriously hated having to use it for anything else.
The battery would not last throughout one overseas flight just reading books.
Just not nearly enough battery and performance for me, and while I like some of the UI enhancements (and particularly the ability to use Chrome browser) with CM10/10.1, they were in no way worth the extreme tradeoff in performance.
In the meantime I also dropped my NC and crunched the corner on it, so while it works, it does need to be replaced.
So, back to CM7.20 for me on the NC. I'm actually following my own guide right now to get it rebuilt the way it was. I'll be shopping for a new tablet to get maybe this summer that will run CM10+ with performance like I was getting from my lowly NC. Long live CM7.20 on NC!
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It's very detail but some miss
If you put all 4 .zip files into ONE bootable CwMR uSD, step 9 you remove the uSD, insert the new one in, assuming it is blank then jump to step 14, you wont have the format file if you not re-insert the first usd back.
Also, flashing CwM into eMMC very convenience, yes, but it is a pain if you want to go back to stock ROM. I always preferred boot into CwM R via a bootable uSD card.
Your note in step 15, I personally do not believe it is 100% true. In my case, without an external uSD card plugged in, Aldiko Reader won't work. And yes, my system set up is like what you said.
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Thanks, I updated it. Maybe didn't catch everything.
Also, flashing CwM into eMMC very convenience, yes, but it is a pain if you want to go back to stock ROM.
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IMHO, if you have reservations and think you might want to go back to the stock ROM, then my instructions above are not for you.
Your note in step 15, I personally do not believe it is 100% true. In my case, without an external uSD card plugged in, Aldiko Reader won't work. And yes, my system set up is like what you said.
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I have not tried Aldiko but I have probably 100 other apps and none of them require the SD to be installed. IIRC Aldiko does require you to tell it where the library is located; maybe this is the problem? I don't remember.
I switched to Moon+ Reader for my books, which I wholeheartedly recommend over Aldiko. I found Aldiko was crashing and causing my whole NC to crash/spontaneously reboot, etc., when you leave it running in the background for a long time. I think Aldiko likely has a memory leak.
While I am talking about app recommendations, I also suggested Go Launcher EX, which I really like. It feels faster and is more configurable in ways that improve responsiveness for my tastes compared to ADW. I have some theme preferences that I could share, which I think are optimal for the NC given the screen size, but I have found that most other people I know who are over 30 tend to think my settings for screen sizes of icons and controls are too small, so I didn't bother. Normal Tablet Tweaks and the default CM7 setup may be ok for you. I do prefer Dolphin HD browser over the stock browser, and I also tried Maxthon, Firefox Mobile, and Opera Mobile as well as Opera Mini. I like features of all of them, but on balance Dolphin HD is the winner.
votinh said:
Also, flashing CwM into eMMC very convenience, yes, but it is a pain if you want to go back to stock ROM. I always preferred boot into CwM R via a bootable uSD card.
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I've tried a few of the new posts about returning to stock ROM and found it was really easy myself. YMMV
Thanks for the guide mr72.
The one thing I'd recommend to people who haven't done the cpu frequency / voltage tweaks before is to set it and test it out for a while without making it set on boot. The frequency settings are quite safe / standard, but the voltage settings vary a little more from person to person. If you've used it that way for a few hours without issue, then make it set on reboot.
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Thanks for the guide mr72.
The one thing I'd recommend to people who haven't done the cpu frequency / voltage tweaks before is to set it and test it out for a while without making it set on boot. The frequency settings are quite safe / standard, but the voltage settings vary a little more from person to person. If you've used it that way for a few hours without issue, then make it set on reboot.
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Good point.
Also note, my settings are quite conservative. I have run them much lower and the NC was still stable, for at least a few hours. However, I figured I'd err on the side of stability.
Also note the impact screen brightness will have on battery life. While it may be second nature for some of us to turn down the brightness we might want to point out that it is the single biggest drain on the battery,
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Nice work! I just updated Nook Tweaks with those settings. I updated to the SKANG RC-2 Mirage and so far the Nook is much speedier than stock CM7 RC1.
Will post back after I test these settings a bit.
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Also note the impact screen brightness will have on battery life.
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That's true. Mine is normally about 40%. However, in my e-reader app (Moon+) I tend to adjust it to about 15-20% when reading with the lights on, and about 6% when reading in the dark. But the whole screen is mostly white so this is really a worst-case battery drain app for screen usage.
I managed to watch HD movies with wifi enabled but not streaming for 7 hours and the battery was maybe 30% afterward. So I think it has 10 hours of movies in it. With wifi disabled, it is better.
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I have not tried Aldiko but I have probably 100 other apps and none of them require the SD to be installed. IIRC Aldiko does require you to tell it where the library is located; maybe this is the problem? I don't remember.
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Back to your "previously step 15", which probably a step 17 now, external uSD related. I just glanced through one of my previous post that talking about the requirement of an external uSD.
Can you do a quick test? Remove uSD off your NC, then capture the screenshot using the built-in feature (press and hold power button to bring up the menu).
See if it let you save the image or not.
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Back to your "previously step 15", which probably a step 17 now, external uSD related. I just glanced through one of my previous post that talking about the requirement of an external uSD.
Can you do a quick test? Remove uSD off your NC, then capture the screenshot using the built-in feature (press and hold power button to bring up the menu).
See if it let you save the image or not.
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Next time I have my SD card removed, I can try that. I'm not going to do it today. But trust me, it works just fine. The Android OS doesn't know there is no physical SD. You just have to make sure the internal partition is mounted at /sdcard. No part of Android OS can write to the partition without going through that mountpoint.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
Nice re-iteration of eyeballers thread..
Although I didn't use this post to setup my nook. It confirms some things. Also it said in the op and even links to eyeballers thread that this is how mr72's setup went and how he used settings to optimize his nook. I kinda like having the changes in one place.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
Nice re-iteration of eyeballers thread..
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Sent from my NookColor
I've seen votinh talk about not wanting to install CWR to emmc, and have wondered why. I kinda just assumed it was some ethical dilemma concerning the warranty. It is pretty easy to wipe, in my experience at least.
One note to mr72. The V6 supercharger script is used to change the minfree values, and locking home in memory can conflict with its operation and cause lag. If you run the script in a terminal you can see it explained right beneath the script’s 17 option menu.
Just a note.
mateorod said:
I've seen votinh talk about not wanting to install CWR to emmc, and have wondered why. I kinda just assumed it was some ethical dilemma concerning the warranty. It is pretty easy to wipe, in my experience at least.
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Maybe because I'm a bit of paranoid but since joining the forum and helping others, the most itchy issue that I've seen so far is restoring back to stock and a lot of people suffering the hiccup due to CwMR flashed into eMMC using ROM Manager.
In order to get out of it, they have to perform 8-boot ??? or whatever it is.
While w/o CwMR installed in eMMC, restore back to stock is just simply as re-flash a ROM.
Again, NOT ALL people hit the head-scratching issue but some did.
hhmm ... I wonder how this setup would work on ICS?
Once we get fully-functional, stable builds of ICS then I am sure I will do the same kinds of experiments as I have with CM7+ and wind up with a similar set of recommended tweaks and settings, if I have success running ICS and don't go back.
FYI, regarding battery life:
I got a PM asking for a little more detail. I am getting >12 hours of battery with the screen on while reading ebooks. This was on a series of flights overseas wherein I used the NC with Moon+ Reader, and wifi disabled.
I just got finished watching a movie for pretty much right at an hour, with wifi enabled, here at my house. MX Video Player, a DVD-rip of a movie, with the brightness on about "3" (set on MX Player). Battery went from 91% when I started to 80%. If it is linear, that's 9 hours of battery watching movies.
IMHO, this is pretty great. And it matches my rough experience from the previous experience watching movies.
Of note:
in MX Player, XviD movies play far better and consume less battery than x264. I got more like 15% per hour with x264 (BRrip, 720p) and frequently had to resync the audio and video. And also I have switched to the InteractiveX frequency scheduling, using the "SW Fast" decoder for MX Video Player, as an experiment to see if it improves video playback (it doesn't). But it doesn't seem to adversely affect battery life.
@mr72
I've been using Go Lancher EX on my CM7.2 NC (and Galaxy S2) and prefer it to AWD EX's features and performance. You mentioned earlier that you had some GO-specific tweaks that you'd be willing to share. I'd love to see how they compare with mine if you're still willing.
Thanks!
I just installed to and am running CM 7.2 from an SD card. Last night I full charged and today I noticed that my battery says that its at 15%, but the voltage is at 3693 mV. I know the max charge is around ~4200 mV, so the percentage seems very low considering the voltage value. Anyone help?