So after rooting I froze a bunch of bloat with Titanium Backup, including DLNA and the DLNA service.
Just noticed this morning that DLNA was still running in the background, about 10 reboots after freezing it. Ti still showed it frozen, but it was definitely active and running. I unfroze it and used root explorer to rename it to dlna.bak, and it immediately FC'd, and I rebooted, and now it's not running, and all is good.
But how is it possible for a frozen app to run itself??
tonyx3 said:
So after rooting I froze a bunch of bloat with Titanium Backup, including DLNA and the DLNA service.
Just noticed this morning that DLNA was still running in the background, about 10 reboots after freezing it. Ti still showed it frozen, but it was definitely active and running. I unfroze it and used root explorer to rename it to dlna.bak, and it immediately FC'd, and I rebooted, and now it's not running, and all is good.
But how is it possible for a frozen app to run itself??
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It's being invoked as a library from other processes. I've mentioned this a bunch of times before, but there's lots of processes that are acting this way... Task Manager, World Clock, etc.
I have a bloat removal (and restore) script here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472
It will rename the packages to .bak and then rename back when you undo. Has prompts so you can choose what to keep and what not to keep, etc. I recommend using it to remove bloat instead of trying to freeze.
I'm seeing a general concensus that renaming the apps instead of freezing them is the way to go. I've had luck with this as well with psouza4's script.
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I'm seeing a general concensus that renaming the apps instead of freezing them is the way to go. I've had luck with this as well with psouza4's script.
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Yeah I used psouza4s script im on the leaked ota 5.6.890 and the best way is to rename them to.bak
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Was running Phoenix Ultimate rom. Switched to Mosaic III Diet. Restored my apps using Titanium Backup Pro; however, some of the apps did not get installed. When I look at them in TiBu, those apps have a line drawn through them. The legend states this means the app was not installed. Were they not installed because they will not run in GingerBread?
retnuh said:
Was running Phoenix Ultimate rom. Switched to Mosaic III Diet. Restored my apps using Titanium Backup Pro; however, some of the apps did not get installed. When I look at them in TiBu, those apps have a line drawn through them. The legend states this means the app was not installed. Were they not installed because they will not run in GingerBread?
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more than likely they are apps that were once in /system/app/ in your old rom or specific for that rom/build
name an example of some of the apps.
Pirateghost said:
more than likely they are apps that were once in /system/app/ in your old rom or specific for that rom/build
name an example of some of the apps.
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Sound Player 1.0
TeleNav GPS Navigator 6.2.6201038
ThinkFree Office 2.0.1011,01
Speed Test 2.0.3
Thanks
Sound Player is a system app, cant reinstall that with TiBu
TeleNav is part of the ATT BLOAT
ThinkFree Office is system app
dont know about speed test
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Sound Player is a system app, cant reinstall that with TiBu
TeleNav is part of the ATT BLOAT
ThinkFree Office is system app
dont know about speed test
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Actually, TeleNav was a separate app that I had downloaded from the market. Liked it a lot more that the Google navigation. I have read other posts where other people are also trying to re-install the app and can no longer find it. One post stated that AT&T had it removed from the market. Since I had the app in my TiBu backup folder, I was in hopes of being able to re-install it.
I'm having much the same problem with Titanium Backup only I flashed Dlev 4.1 ROM from Cognition 4.1.1.
I have lines through many of my apps that I didn't think were system apps. To name just a few:
Angry Birds
Astrid Tasks
Amazon MP3
Barcode Scanner
Evernote
Facebook
Firefox
It says I have a backup of them dated today right before messing with all this ROM flashing. Most of this I don't really care about except for my 3 Angry Birds apps. I can download the others again and hopefully just sign in and all should work okay but I really want my Angry Birds progress back. To be honest a vast majority of my apps have the line through them (all but a handful) and most of those were installed with the Dlev ROM.
Any help someone could give me would be much appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance.
tuckerjdaniel said:
I'm having much the same problem with Titanium Backup only I flashed Dlev 4.1 ROM from Cognition 4.1.1.
I have lines through many of my apps that I didn't think were system apps. To name just a few:
Angry Birds
Astrid Tasks
Amazon MP3
Barcode Scanner
Evernote
Facebook
Firefox
It says I have a backup of them dated today right before messing with all this ROM flashing. Most of this I don't really care about except for my 3 Angry Birds apps. I can download the others again and hopefully just sign in and all should work okay but I really want my Angry Birds progress back. To be honest a vast majority of my apps have the line through them (all but a handful) and most of those were installed with the Dlev ROM.
Any help someone could give me would be much appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance.
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have you tried restoring them? what error message do you get?
I have not encountered any sort of error messages. The steps I'm following to restore my apps is:
1. Start TiBackup and click the Backup/Restore tab
2. Scroll down to the app I want to restore (in this case one with a line through it)
3. Click on the particular app. When I click on an app with a line through it the following options are given: Backup, Freeze, Uninstall. The backup and freeze buttons are grayed out and thus not selectable. The uninstall button is red but it is also not selectable (because that app is not currently installed on my phone). I also have an option to delete next to the backup.
TiBackup sees the backup and recognizes it as an app I just have no way to restore it or the data. However, if I go into the Market place and download the app and then go back to TiBackup I can see the app without any sort of line drawn through it and I can from there restore the app data. Once I do that all is good and everything is as it should be.
However, I really don't want to spend the time to download all my apps again as that's why I backed them up in the first place. Also, when I go into the Market and download an app it seems to work and install like it should. However, if I try and install a second app after downloading and installing the first app it gives me an error saying "error downloading 'app name'". There is insufficient space on the device." Now I know there is plenty of space on my device. According to the task manager Storage tab I have used 219mb/1.85gbs of internal phone storage. Also, if I reboot my phone and then try to download the exact same app as before I can download and install it just fine.
Thanks again for the help.
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So I did some searching around the forum it seems the insufficient space error I've been getting is something to do with the new version of the market. And I've had a work around by just going and searching for the app on my computer and it the app store sends the app to my device so that part is fine. So at least I have a work around for that.
However, I still would like to get my apps back in TiBackup for the simply reason I do have a few paid apps and I don't really want to have to purchase the apps again. I've downloaded several of the "free daily apps" from the Amazon App store and can't download them again for free.
Thanks for the help.
On the front page of tibu hit the menu button, choose batch, restore missing apps with data...
If there is a 0 there, go to settings>applications> manage applications>titanium backup> clear data and cache
If you have problem with titanium application backup you must need to hire a developer.
Restore file list has strikethrough / greyed out text and fails to restore.
studacris said:
On the front page of tibu hit the menu button, choose batch, restore missing apps with data...
If there is a 0 there, go to settings>applications> manage applications>titanium backup> clear data and cache
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You obviously have not read this thread. This has been tried and failed. Also, what you explained, is simply the way that TB is supposed to work. Do you not think that if it worked as intended, we would be having these issues?
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If you have problem with titanium application backup you must need to hire a developer.
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Just because there is a bug/glitch/error in an app does NOT the user does not know what they are doing....
I consider myself a very experienced Android user. I had tried clearing the cache for the app as the first thing I did. I then uninstalled the TB, and rebooted my phone. I then reinstalled TB Root, and the Key. When I try to restore my apps from the External SD card, it lists them all, and has each of them with a line striking the names out. If I select an individual one, and try to restore it, TB pops up the RESTORING dialog box, and sits at 0%. It does the same for each and every app, either individual or in a batch restore. In a batch restore it starts with the last file name, alphabetically, Zillow in my case, and sits at 0%. I let it try to restore one single app with data for well over an hour, and it still remained at 0%
Did this ever get fixed? I'm having the very same problem after a factory reset
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Did this ever get fixed? I'm having the very same problem after a factory reset
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Nearly 7 months later and no reply....I'm having the same issue. Been using TiBU for many, many, many years. This is the first I've come into issue with this. Backed up my apps to Box cloud storage and also Google Drive Storage. Google's restore successfully restores almost all of my apps with the exception of a few apps that have a strike-through line. When I checked the TiBU backup folder on Drive for those apps, I noticed that of the three files that TiBU creates for each app (for restoring purposes), two of the three files were missing (so it was a bad backup of those apps to the cloud).
Now, with Box.com....all the app's have their corresponding THREE files that TiBU creates during backups BUT....when restoring everything from Box EVERY single app is crossed out with a strike-through. I've been rooting my phones and using backup services like TiBU since the very first Samsung Galaxy S phone ever. My current issue here resides on the Motorola Nexus 6 stock-rom (but rooted).
I'm stumped.
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Kal-El7 said:
Nearly 7 months later and no reply....I'm having the same issue. Been using TiBU for many, many, many years. This is the first I've come into issue with this. Backed up my apps to Box cloud storage and also Google Drive Storage. Google's restore successfully restores almost all of my apps with the exception of a few apps that have a strike-through line. When I checked the TiBU backup folder on Drive for those apps, I noticed that of the three files that TiBU creates for each app (for restoring purposes), two of the three files were missing (so it was a bad backup of those apps to the cloud).
Now, with Box.com....all the app's have their corresponding THREE files that TiBU creates during backups BUT....when restoring everything from Box EVERY single app is crossed out with a strike-through. I've been rooting my phones and using backup services like TiBU since the very first Samsung Galaxy S phone ever. My current issue here resides on the Motorola Nexus 6 stock-rom (but rooted).
I'm stumped.
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Wait...just saw something right now. Per one poster's suggestion, I decided to restore an app from the Play Store and then open up TiBU to see what happened. I noticed that NOW the RESTORE option (which the word "restore" was always missing in all the striked-through apps) was available. When I selected the Restore button, TiBU asks: Data only?
It would seem that the only DATA was restored to Box.com and not the actual app. I'll confirm this further by trying a few more apps.
Problem is, I think one of my apps was a sideloaded app, patched. shucks.
I have just rooted my device and installed Titanium Backup. Should I uninstall Carhome and F-secure or upgrade to Titanium Backup Pro and freeze them instead? Freezing means that they will still be taking up space on the device right? Also, for my telecom stock apps, can I simply uninstall them without ramifications?
Any rom to recommend? I am new at this.
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I have just rooted my device and installed Titanium Backup. Should I uninstall Carhome and F-secure or upgrade to Titanium Backup Pro and freeze them instead?
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Freezing first is always the recommended action (to simply see what happens), however uninstalling these two has been properly tested by "the community", and there are no negative consequences. Just do it.
As for TB Pro, it is the only must-have application for rooted users in my view, just buy it, it's an awesome tool.
Freezing means that they will still be taking up space on the device right?
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Yes, but you won't get any more useful space by removing them. They're in the /system partition, which during normal use will never get written to. (Only you, the rooted user, can do that.) Even updates get installed to the /data-partition. The only real difference between freezing and uninstalling is what happens after a wipe (factory reset.) If you have frozen an app, it'll be active after a reset. Uninstall apps you are sure you'll never need, freeze everything else you don't want.
For example, any sane user will install an alternate launcher, like Launcher Pro, Go Launcher, ADW etc. These are so much better than the stock launcher you'll be convinced you'll never use LG Home again, and it'll be tempting to uninstall it. Mistake. The alternate launcher will get installed to /data/app, so if you ever need to reset your phone, it'll get deleted. When the phone boots next, it won't have ANY launcher installed, and you won't be able to do anything.
Also, for my telecom stock apps, can I simply uninstall them without ramifications?
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Impossible to say without knowing what they do. Freeze them and see what happens during a week or two of normal use.
Any rom to recommend? I am new at this.
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They're all pretty good. With the latest batches of ROMs you basically have to choose between a Ferrari, Porsche or Lamborghini. There's a broken headlight or a scratch in the paint here and there, but you really can't go wrong. It's all a matter of personal need and taste- try them out and decide which works best for you.
Thanks for the detailed explanation esp on the pros and cons of freezing vs uninstalling. I am gonna try out launcherpro and see how it goes before venturing into the unknown world of roms.
from a greek post I made once translated with google because of boredome
The Root is the android that is the administrator for windows
Reasons for doing root:
Market enabler: see all applications on the market
Titanium Backup: You make backup all applications
startup manager: regulates what runs on the principle on your mobile
adfree: stop the advertisements
droidwall: close the internet on which application you want.
fasterfix: the gps you have set for GREECE consistently fast locking.
pimpmycpu: you over or underclock your mobile for extra performance or economy of battery
systemapp remover: place systems that take away but you are achristes or annoying.
widgetlocker: changing the lockscreen unrestricted
touchkeylights: lowers the Volt led for saving battery power or simply because it bothers light.
gscript: Giving orders linux with a click you want to do things like restart the application see longer eats a lot of space, the possibilities are endless
es file exporer: you can change the system files (dangerous not to try unless you know what you have) to put other icons or other boot animation, or a different shape battery tray bar displays etc.
These are some of the little you can do.
I'm pretty new to the Android world, and I have a few questions.
Whenever I "KILL" an app, it says that it's gone. However, when I launch the task manager up again, the apps are running again. How can I make it so programs like, "IM" or "MOTOPRINT" just never launch at all?
And, I rooted my Droid 4 and got another app named Superuser. What does this do?
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I'm pretty new to the Android world, and I have a few questions.
Whenever I "KILL" an app, it says that it's gone. However, when I launch the task manager up again, the apps are running again. How can I make it so programs like, "IM" or "MOTOPRINT" just never launch at all?
And, I rooted my Droid 4 and got another app named Superuser. What does this do?
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The apps you are referring to are system apps. Although Android kills them, Motorola has registered them as services so that they will restart automatically. Freeze IM to make it stay killed (it will essentially uninstall it) but I recommend leaving Motoprint because it is darn useful!
The app named "superuser" is essentially a graphical frontend to the super user permission manager. As you grant or deny applications root or "administrative" access, they will show up in the superuser app so that you can either change that setting or review which apps you have granted or denied system access.
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The apps you are referring to are system apps. Although Android kills them, Motorola has registered them as services so that they will restart automatically. Freeze IM to make it stay killed (it will essentially uninstall it) but I recommend leaving Motoprint because it is darn useful!
The app named "superuser" is essentially a graphical frontend to the super user permission manager. As you grant or deny applications root or "administrative" access, they will show up in the superuser app so that you can either change that setting or review which apps you have granted or denied system access.
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Relating to freezing apps, the only program I've came around to do this is Titanium Backup Pro. However, it requires you to pay, are there any free ones out there that will allow me to freeze apps? Thankyou.
AntTek App Manager works great for me. AntTek also has what appears to be a pretty decent root file explorer.
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I didn't spot any thread around here covering the topic of debloating stock sony firmware. Not that it would be cluttered like other manufacturers firmware, but theres still room for improvement
Is there a guide somewhere or a list of all apk safe to disable/remove (provided root acces) on sony firmwares? Similar to a Samsung Galaxy S2 related guide here or another very exhaustive one here (<- preferred).
I'm from the X10i & the Arc forums, I use this as a guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089470
Good Luck
* If you want to delete a app by Root-Explorer, don't update it by Playstore first before removing it. (Facebook)
* Some apps can be removed by Settings - Apps etc.
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Well on tx stock, I got the following apps disabled. ;/
my phone is running fine. From start up to everyday use.
This all depends on what functions you use for the phone. Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is persona l preference on which apps you want to delete.
However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete and still keep your phone working as a phone. The best way I have found of doing this is not by following other peoples list but by using Titanium Backup to "freeze" apps and then test the phone to see if it still works the way I want it. Then I could delete the app. If I ost some functionality I would defrost the app and no harm is done.
gregbradley said:
This all depends on what functions you use for the phone. Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is persona l preference on which apps you want to delete.
However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete and still keep your phone working as a phone. The best way I have found of doing this is not by following other peoples list but by using Titanium Backup to "freeze" apps and then test the phone to see if it still works the way I want it. Then I could delete the app. If I ost some functionality I would defrost the app and no harm is done.
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What Greg says is right, but to add to it:
Apps that you can "disable" will not effect the functionality of the phone, you will just lose the function of the app in question.
Secondly, if you are using titanium back up to freeze system apps, and you are not sure what the app you are freezing does you might stop your system from working, so before you freeze anything you are unsure of, take a full backup first so you can restore it if your system becomes unstable.
Please post your results in this thread for others to learn from.
There is also a system app cleaner in flashtool, although I have not used it with the T yet.
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gregbradley said:
Deleting apps stops their functionality, so you always reduce the functions of the phone when deleting apps. It is personal preference on which apps you want to delete. *snip* However, there are plenty of apps that are "safe" to delete
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As for the first part of your post, I'm fully aware of. In fact thats the reason why I'd like to have some of useless stuff removed (numerous FB clients/apps/agents for example) But thanks for putting it here as other users might not be aware of the possible issues.
The part in bold is of most interest to me. I'm totally not an Android novice, I know most crucial system packages. Derping around in relatively pure Android releases like AOSP and CM10 and reading the same package names over and over again gives a feel what is Android related and what is vendor specific. For Sammy/Touchwiz I know which package does what, but with Sony I'm new and dont know which files are safe to remove without breaking the system. Hence this thread.
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What Greg says is right, but to add to it: *snip*
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Of course same as above. I do not use TiB though, I use an app called System App Remover. I know TiB very vell of course, but then, who doesn't But again, I'm not interested in getting informations what removing or freezing apk's means in general, I'm interested in which are essential to Sonys UI and will break the system if removed.
I'll have a look at the link provided to the Arc/X10 forums.
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LitoNi said:
Well on tx stock, I got the following apps disabled. ;/
my phone is running fine. From start up to everyday use.
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Yesterday I found out that disabeling Setup Guide resulted in me losing all APN settings and the phone refused to (automatically) recreate them. They got recreated without any fuzz after enabeling the setup wizard and running it. I'll eventually try to recreate this as I fight with myself if this connected or if I coincidentally hit a time where my network decided to derp on me.
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Yesterday I found out that disabeling Setup Guide resulted in me losing all APN settings and the phone refused to (automatically) recreate them. They got recreated without any fuzz after enabeling the setup wizard and running it. I'll eventually try to recreate this as I fight with myself if this connected or if I coincidentally hit a time where my network decided to derp on me.
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not sure whats that got to do with it, Setup guide is one of the first apps i delte. Unless this an app from your carrier that loads the apn settings...mine are downloaded automatically from vodafone.
Hi Guy's/Girl's,
So i just successfully rooted my device with SuperSu and I'm looking to delete some bloatware, I've read good things about Titanium so i thought i'd give it a go. I'm mainly just removing all the stuff i don't use on this Tab to speed it up as all im doing with it is playing Mobile Legends and browsing, I've noticed that after removing app's their icon is still viewable in the draw but when i click on it nothing happens.. Does this mean that the app has been successfully removed and i just need to hide the icon?
I was also wondering would i be able to delete TouchWiz if im using another launcher (NOVA Launcher) or will it bug out?
Thanks in advance,
Cheers.
I generally freeze things in Titanium initially. Then, if no problems crop up after a reasonable time, I'll go back in an uninstall. If problems *do* crop up, I can thaw the app with (hopefully) no harm done.
That said, I've left TouchWiz alone since it is tied fairly tightly to the whole OS (and yes, I do use Nova).