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Did froyo fix the crazy screen bug?

Is it me, or did froyo fix the "crazy screen" bug? I also noticed that my phone doesn't get as hot when it's been charging on my car dock.

I'm running FRF50 since it was released. The screen issue is long gone. I use to have it a couple of times a day. I sometimes get it but that's once a week.

lorin.bute said:
I'm running FRF50 since it was released. The screen issue is long gone. I use to have it a couple of times a day. I sometimes get it but that's once a week.
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This, and I'm on FRF85B

Gotta be the best part of froyo for me, crazy screen bug fix, flash player, Jit compiler.

Which crazy thing happening are you guys screaming about? Are you talking about when the touchscreen would begin to register touches in the wrong place until the screen is turned off and on again?

Yeah that's what they are talking about. But the bad news is this problem still exists. I've had it happen many times on froyo. It's not gone at all.

RogerPodacter said:
Yeah that's what they are talking about. But the bad news is this problem still exists. I've had it happen many times on froyo. It's not gone at all.
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Funny thing is that I had those issues on an AT&T-banded phone and they have gone way downhill since Froyo.

I find the granularity/preciseness of the screen better, and more responsive when, for example, you are dragging left-to-right and you start dragging up-down. However, I only do this in the browser so it could be down to better browser performance and/or JIT?
Still have screen uncalibration issues but seem to be better in 85 than 72

Does indeed seem to be a thing of the past, and on a similar note, it's improved the capacitive button accuracy as well.
Good that they've done it, but now I keep hitting them in the wrong place.

I'm using FRF91. Crazy screen bug happens with me twice a day. I don't know what I do to go away, but after a few minutes it stops by itself.

Ok I have been noticed a new problem for the past few days where the screen did not response at all when I turned on the phone. I cannot slide the unlock bar to unlock it. I had to turn it off and on again for one or two times to make the screen response again. Anyone else having this same problem?

Crazy screen occurrence definitely reduced.. however, it still happens when phone heats up significantly.. say, on a dash board while navigating. It's most definitely heat-related... so it must be hardware =(

I'm running Geo's FRG83 and I get it quite a bit when using Skype. I've seen this problem from the beginning and haven't seen a reduction in this issue with later versions of Android. It is the only problem I have with Android/N1.

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I'm running Geo's FRG83 and I get it quite a bit when using Skype. I've seen this problem from the beginning and haven't seen a reduction in this issue with later versions of Android. It is the only problem I have with Android/N1.
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I've had the N1 since day one and never had this bug. But I don't use Skype...

Poll: Do you own the Galaxy S? Have a lag?

This may give us some sense on how widespread the issue is. No answers based on informal fixes please.

Meaningless poll.
As long as samsung won't move the app data to the ROM instead of the internal SD, there will be a lag when opening some of the apps.
Menus flow swiftly, though.

Coming from a HTC Touch HD the lag is nonexistent in my view, what stutters people seem to be complaining about are pretty much nonevents to me.

mine had a lag (received today)...until i updated the firmware to JG3. BIG difference now

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Now this is new to me, is JG3 compatible with UK devices?

Pika007 said:
Meaningless poll.
As long as samsung won't move the app data to the ROM instead of the internal SD, there will be a lag when opening some of the apps.
Menus flow swiftly, though.
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It may be meaninless to you, but I would like to have a sense, before purchasing the phone, if this is a widespread issue or just a matter involving few noisy owners. If this is a widespread issue and I need to rely on Samsung's not so impressing update reputation, I may wait a little bit.

al74 said:
It may be meaninless to you, but I would like to have a sense, before purchasing the phone, if this is a widespread issue or just a matter involving few noisy owners. If this is a widespread issue and I need to rely on Samsung's not so impressing update reputation, I may wait a little bit.
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You have to remember, people who come into forums are the one with problems.
Nobody goes to the doctors office and say, "Look I'm healthy and I have no problems." and just walk out. Only those with problems or concerns walk into a doctors office, no?

ConceptVBS said:
You have to remember, people who come into forums are the one with problems.
Nobody goes to the doctors office and say, "Look I'm healthy and I have no problems." and just walk out. Only those with problems or concerns walk into a doctors office, no?
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Not these forums. People come to XDA not only with problems but to learn more about their phone and share experiences, especially those early adopters who buy the phone right away.

I sometimes have a bit of lag, but nothing that makes me think, "why did I buy this phone", for me the Galaxy S is everything I wanted from a Android phone, it's powerful, screen is beautiful and it runs all my apps very smoothly.

The lags happened very rarely and most times the phone is snappy. Such things happened to all phones, even my wife's iphone. Still much better than winmo where most things lagged big time.
Though after I switched to using autokiller with aggressive setting, I dun get the lags anymore. My free memory also stay above 100mb all the time without me having to kill any apps manually

I disabled the samsung widgets and i am alot better now.

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We don't have the same phone or we don't know what a lag is
When I try to delete a mail it takes between 10s to 30s. If it is not a lag what is it??
On the iphone I can't tel you how fast it is as it is less than 1 seconde
And I have flashed my phone to the new rom ...
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nicoloco said:
2 solutions :
We don't have the same phone or we don't know what a lag is
When I try to delete a mail it takes between 10s to 30s. If it is not a lag what is it??
On the iphone I can't tel you how fast it is as it is less than 1 seconde
And I have flashed my phone to the new rom ...
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But the thing with your example is, is it really deleting the email in 1 second or is it just displaying the email is gone and just spending 9 seconds in the background actually deleting it?
It's nothing to make it appear that the email has actually gone while it actually does the work in it's own time.

trinikartel said:
mine had a lag (received today)...until i updated the firmware to JG3. BIG difference now
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I was using it for over a week, then flashed JG3. Lags seems pretty much gone with this firmware.

I got quite horrendous lag at times on the original firmware (JF3).
Now I am on JG1 with the MoDaCo R2 ROM and Autokiller (set to aggressive originally, now trying on optimum) and I don't seem to get much lag at all, if any. It is like a different phone.
Unfortunately I did have to do a factory reset last night but that was other problems - I do hope that's not a regular occurrence though.

when I say it's a lag i mean that during 10 to 30 sec the phone is blocked with the popup box where you hit the button delete.
I must confess I don't reallycare if the mail is really gone or not in 1s ... what I know is that I have to wait 20sec to be able to open a new mail.
If the iphone is smart enough to display the mail as deleted and let me work on another one while it is really deleting the mail on the background ... it might mean that it has 2 years of advance compared to my phone as it is now. I prefer to believe that's not the case

last night I couldn't get the phone to accept my unlock pattern. had to turn it off completely and then turn it on again...
by "not accept" i mean the screen wouldn't light up red or green when i was swiping my finger over it and the screen would turn on and off.
I'm doing a factory reset now.
I also can't use the kies program - the mtp application flicks on and off.
hoping the factory reset will solve my problems...

SoreGums said:
last night I couldn't get the phone to accept my unlock pattern. had to turn it off completely and then turn it on again...
by "not accept" i mean the screen wouldn't light up red or green when i was swiping my finger over it and the screen would turn on and off.
I'm doing a factory reset now.
I also can't use the kies program - the mtp application flicks on and off.
hoping the factory reset will solve my problems...
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I understand that you may have issues but this has nothing to do with a lag, which is what this poll and thread all about.

I just tested mine now, I have the stock JF3(?) ROM that came with the phone, I deleted an email from my Hotmail, and replied to a different email in 2 seconds, no lag in email at all.

Tachikoma_kun said:
I just tested mine now, I have the stock JF3(?) ROM that came with the phone, I deleted an email from my Hotmail, and replied to a different email in 2 seconds, no lag in email at all.
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I noticed lag sometimes on my JF3 but only when using Yahoo Mail application (from Yahoo Inc.), it just stuck in black screen at either email-loading or going back for some seconds (and many times pop-up came-up to Force Close the application _but_ after some seconds application came back).
This is the only lag I am facing related to emails. Other lag I some time notice in Dolphin HD browser when opening it first time OR switching to new link. Default browser is very fast as compare to this.

occasional clock lagg

hey all, question here. I have noticed this in the last few roms, not sure if this happens in stock, but i have been running cognition, currently 3.04 ( before that 3.02, 3.0 and 2.3b6), Occasionally I notice that after the phone comes out of sleep I see the clock go from example 1:30 to 3:30 or something like that. IS that a bug in cognition? or does the clock occasionally turn off when in sleep mode, and the reason for the lag sometimes be the phone cpu usage is doing some thing when i come out of sleep causing the jump to current time? or whats the reasoning behind this?
thanks.

JJ133169 said:
hey all, question here. I have noticed this in the last few roms, not sure if this happens in stock, but i have been running cognition, currently 3.04 ( before that 3.02, 3.0 and 2.3b6), Occasionally I notice that after the phone comes out of sleep I see the clock go from example 1:30 to 3:30 or something like that. IS that a bug in cognition? or does the clock occasionally turn off when in sleep mode, and the reason for the lag sometimes be the phone cpu usage is doing some thing when i come out of sleep causing the jump to current time? or whats the reasoning behind this?
thanks.
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When the device goes to standby, all the widgets and screen updating apps are put to sleep to save battery. When u turn on screen, all these are refreshed. This is normal.

alright. Just curious, how come sometimes i see the clock go super speed to catch up, and other times it at the correct time? ( I usually dont see it, Ive only seen it maybe 5 times past month)

JJ133169 said:
alright. Just curious, how come sometimes i see the clock go super speed to catch up, and other times it at the correct time? ( I usually dont see it, Ive only seen it maybe 5 times past month)
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No clue. Didn't go into so deep architecture I shall see if I can find out how it works internally when I get some time.

Thanks. Anyone else feel free to answer as well.
I am looking forward to your research. I am a techy as well, and not knowing why somethings happen and dont happen when it comes to things like this bug the heck out of me.

JJ133169 said:
Thanks. Anyone else feel free to answer as well.
I am looking forward to your research. I am a techy as well, and not knowing why somethings happen and dont happen when it comes to things like this bug the heck out of me.
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As a more visible and more frequent occurrence, load a time app onto ur home screen. You can see it get updated when u turn the screen on frequently.
I think its more dependent on how many apps/widgets need to be updated when u turn ur screen on. I hardly have any on my screen so its a rare case I see the time update.

ok, so let me get this right, your saying it probably happens more often when i haven't used my phone in a while, because lets say I have things that update every four hours, and if the phones in sleep, and they haven't updated, they all could possibly be updating when i come out of sleep because there over due, thus sometimes causing the system clock to jump?

Any one else know anything ?

JJ133169 said:
lets say I have things that update every four hours, and if the phones in sleep, and they haven't updated, they all could possibly be updating when i come out of sleep because there over due, thus sometimes causing the system clock to jump?
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All that u set for 4 hours to update, get updated but in the 'background'. The 'display' part of them is not updated, and is 'refreshed' when screen turns on.

Hey, anyone else got any theories or updates?
I'm using ultimate Rom, newest version as of a couple of days ago.
Just noticed this about 3 times in half an hour or less.
Interested in learning why I will see my clock jump from like 2:13 - 2:17 instantly at times when I come out of sleep...

a google search using different words found this :
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...ec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars&id=9524
Are there any devs here that could explain or potentially fix this issue ?
Reading all that worried me, thinking hey, maybe my alarm clock isn't reliable either...

I had this issue when I was running 2.1 stock. I haven't had the issue since flashing 2.2 (have used both cog 3.02 and andromeda 2.0).
Your link also seems specific to 2.1, and I believe is a known issue coming out of 'deep' sleep. I had some luck with app called 'load monitor'. It's free and has a setting I think is called prevent suspend that doesn't allow phone to go into deep sleep.
Not sure if re-flash might help since what you describe shouldn't happen running 2.2
i897 running Andromeda 2.0

Okay. But what are the chances of me repeatingly getting bad flashes? Ive been on cog 2.3b6, 3.0 , 3.02, 3.04 snd now ultimate rom. Sometimes i wont see it happen for weeks. Other times ital happen a few times in 30 mns.
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Oh and reading through that link you see tons on 2.2 have that issue, not just 2.1
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Yeah not sure. Really thought was general 2.1 issue, not just on captivate.
Try load monitor. I forget the setting there, but it'll prevent deep sleep. That or you could try app 'no led' and send yourself an email before going to bed (when active notification that app prevents deep sleep too).
Sorry those are lame options that'll affect you battery life to some degree. Perhaps there are better options posted here but you'll have to dig for it.
i897 running Andromeda 2.0

I'm assuming a ton of people have it but dont pay much attention to it expecially that it comes and goes in seconds.
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Important topic bump.
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Stil no fixes?
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I've been on some or other version of the ROM I have in my signature, and never observed a clock lag so far. Maybe u cud try this ROM once. By the way, I am on xcal's kernel, and not the kernel supplied in this ROM.

[Q] Random Reboots

Perhaps not random, but possibly keyboard related. I believe I have experienced at least three, perhaps more reboots at various times. I just had one a minute ago when I opened my keyboard from a sleep state (dark screen). My lockscreen had what looked like a Droid X background which caught my attention, then after a couple of seconds, it rebooted.
As I mentioned, this has happened at least twice before, but always when I was trying to do something and (I believe) involving the keyboard. I've never had it reboot in the middle of anything, so the impact is negligible. Add to that how FAST the D3 reboots, it's a very minor annoyance. My old Tbolt used to do that as well, but the reboot time was probably three or four times as long, and it sometimes did it in the middle of something.
Has anyone else experienced this? If you have, sound off and perhaps we can get Moto's attention. If it's just me, then that's great news and I doubt I'll do anything about it since the impact is so minor.
It's hard not to notice since it makes the "Droid" noise when it reboots. Assuming you don't have the same sound assigned to a notification of course.

I noticed it yesterday once (and I just got the phone then too ;-; ), and it was while I was opening the camera app, I decided to open the keyboard for some reason (I don't know why), the phone locked up for a minute and then just rebooted. I also had a temporary lockup while opening up the keyboard while opening Handcent, but it regained responsiveness after about 15 seconds. For me it happens to be something to do with the keyboard while opening apps. We need more people to reproduce this problem so we can get down to the root cause :|

Got two droid 3`s in my house and haven't experience any random boots.
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Happened to me while talking on the phone a few times. Got a replacement and it happened again. Never with the keyboard though. Very troubling especially with the second handset.

I have experienced reboots with the camera and camcorder apps lagging, and just general issues with those apps anyway.
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I haven't had it happen since I originally posted until today. Today it rebooted in my pocket.

Perhaps it could just be a heat issue. I noticed that another thing along with my other conditions I posted was that the phone felt really hot.

Immolate said:
Perhaps not random, but possibly keyboard related. I believe I have experienced at least three, perhaps more reboots at various times. I just had one a minute ago when I opened my keyboard from a sleep state (dark screen). My lockscreen had what looked like a Droid X background which caught my attention, then after a couple of seconds, it rebooted.
As I mentioned, this has happened at least twice before, but always when I was trying to do something and (I believe) involving the keyboard. I've never had it reboot in the middle of anything, so the impact is negligible. Add to that how FAST the D3 reboots, it's a very minor annoyance. My old Tbolt used to do that as well, but the reboot time was probably three or four times as long, and it sometimes did it in the middle of something.
Has anyone else experienced this? If you have, sound off and perhaps we can get Moto's attention. If it's just me, then that's great news and I doubt I'll do anything about it since the impact is so minor.
It's hard not to notice since it makes the "Droid" noise when it reboots. Assuming you don't have the same sound assigned to a notification of course.
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The Droid 3 has a dual core 1 ghz processor processor built inside which is why it starts up so fast. Its probably having these problems because of the new android OS gingerbread 2.3.2 because of how new this operating system is. The first phone designed with the new OS for verizon wireless was the sony xperia which produced surprisingly a very good battery life with the processer designed for gaming built inside that phone.this reminds me of the first droid on Verizon the Motorola Droid A855 where there where some flukes where it would freeze up every now and then. But there were updates that eventually solved the problem. Because this is a relatively new OS there is deffinittely going to be some flukes in the software and there will be updates to solve these most likely coming soon. And especially as more and more users are buying this phone.

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The Droid 3 has a dual core 1 ghz processor processor built inside which is why it starts up so fast. Its probably having these problems because of the new android OS gingerbread 2.3.2 because of how new this operating system is. The first phone designed with the new OS for verizon wireless was the sony xperia which produced surprisingly a very good battery life with the processer designed for gaming built inside that phone.this reminds me of the first droid on Verizon the Motorola Droid A855 where there where some flukes where it would freeze up every now and then. But there were updates that eventually solved the problem. Because this is a relatively new OS there is deffinittely going to be some flukes in the software and there will be updates to solve these most likely coming soon. And especially as more and more users are buying this phone.
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1. Everyone knows that it's dual-core.
2. It runs Android 2.3.4. (Hence no root yet)
3. To the OP, no reboots. Had it since the 13th.
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I haven't seen another reboot since the 28th but I did have the odd experience last night of not being able to get a new wallpaper to take. In fact, I noticed that it had one of the stock wallpapers on it, the diagonal black and grey bars, but couldn't change it. Then this morning I thought about it and rebooted the phone. The last wallpaper I'd tried to change it to came up on reboot. Interesting but not alarming... unless it starts doing that frequently.
FYI I haven't noticed it running hot at any point.
Thanks for all the input everyone.

Probably seen it do it half a dozen times. IIRC it's not a full reboot, just the Android stack (i.e., same Linux kernel instance).
Have a logcat of one and don't seen anything that suggests where the problem is..just a whole bunch of "com.xxxxxx.xxxx has died" followed by normal restart log messages.

Odd that you all are experiencing this. I have not had a single reboot.
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This issue is starting to cause me a good bit of frustration. Most of the time it occurs when waking the phone (sliding out keyboard seems to make it particularly likely). Also seeing complete freezes now which require battery pull.
Phone is now more than 30 days old. It was purchased online. Anyone know the odds of getting a *NEW* (not refurbished) if attempting to return it now? I'm still pretty certain this is a software issue, but may try replacing it in the chance it isn't.

I went into wifi settings and chose to forget all the connections. No more random rebooted.

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I went into wifi settings and chose to forget all the connections. No more random rebooted.
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I wouldn't count on that being the issue.
I've had the problem out in the field (not connected to WiFi) and have had random reboots as well.

Heres a tip for troubleshooting this issue which i 90% guarantee - factory reset your phones put zero apps on them and tweaks, use it for a week and see if u get a reboot.
Then each week after add a single tweak or app(install/uninstall/freeze), may take a yr for some of us since we can't seem to stop downloading random badly coded apps lol...
-smc

For me at least SMC, I've had random reboots from stock during the first week. I'm putting it down to bad software for now.
I usually get 1 a week, sometimes less.

tliebeck said:
This issue is starting to cause me a good bit of frustration. Most of the time it occurs when waking the phone (sliding out keyboard seems to make it particularly likely). Also seeing complete freezes now which require battery pull.
Phone is now more than 30 days old. It was purchased online. Anyone know the odds of getting a *NEW* (not refurbished) if attempting to return it now? I'm still pretty certain this is a software issue, but may try replacing it in the chance it isn't.
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The same thing was happening to me, the whole rebooting and I went to Verizon for a replacement and got a refurbished DROID 3 Not a New :\
I really hope they fix this because its really bugging me. >:\
-eXsoR
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I get a random reboot usually once a week or sometimes twice a week. It depends on how often I use my camera too.

[Q] Is Anyone Seeing This Particular Type Of Lag?

I'm seeing lag on the phone under a specific set of conditions and wondered if anyone else was seeing this. If the phone has been asleep for more than about 20 minutes, after I wake the phone the first app that I launch, irrespective of what the app is, lags for about 2 seconds before opening. Any less than about 20 minutes sleep time and the problem doesn't appear.
After the initial lag opening the first app everything works fine until the phone has been asleep again for more than around 20 minutes. Then the same thing again..... the first app that I open lags for about 2 seconds before opening.
The problem was happening with the standard kernel, KKA. I've since rooted and flashed AbyssNote 2.3 but kept the standard rom and the problem is still there. Anyone have an clues what might be causing this?

Remember that when the CPU comes from a deep sleep it's running <50Mhz. So as soon as the phone wakes it needs to speed up again. That's it's only the first App. By then the cpu is running >800Mhz.
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Two seconds for CPU waking up? It's 21th century.

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Two seconds for CPU waking up? It's 21th century.
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I totally agree but it's not the dreaded wake up lag that I'm referring to. I really thought Samsung would have dealt with that by now, but to their discredit they haven't either on the SGS2 or the Note.
People who justify the wake up lag by saying the phone has been in deep sleep are clutching at straws. HTC phones deep sleep and don't have wake up lag. This is a Samsung issue and it should have been dealt with by now on phones of the caliber of the SGS2 and the Note.
The lag I'm referring to is after the phone is awake and I launch the first app. There is a lag of about 2 seconds before the app launches, irrespective of what actual app it is the I'm launching.
After that, all is good until the next time I use the phone.

Tried to change microSD card, or trying to use phone without it? Seems like card problem.

I don't have this lag issue on my note. I use abyssnote kernel with interactive CPU governor.
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Tried to change microSD card, or trying to use phone without it? Seems like card problem.
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Thanks for the suggestion but the microSD card is not causing the problem. I removed the card and the problem still exists.

I get this lag too guys, sometimes longer than 2 seconds. Very annoying. Also you have to wait ages for the app list to appear when creating shortcuts for homescreen. This happens after the phone has been on for a while after a reset. Its fast from a fresh reboot. This does not happen on the S2.
General responsivness of the phone goes downwards as time and days pass. This does not happen with the S2. Have to reboot every two days pretty much to get the snappiness back as clearing memory via task manager does not solve this.
I'm Using Checkrom with Abyssnote Kernal. Happens with FM Kernal too, so I don't think its kernal related. Don't remember this happening on stock firmware.